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Old August 6th 05, 06:41 AM
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Dee:

Nope, never have seen all the bandwidths in as much use as back during the
70's and early 80's, did you have a ticket back then? My gawd, those
oldtimers have forgotten what a real "pileup" means! Congestion worse
than imagined in my worst nightmare!

Never have had interest in "contesting", much prefer just a gentle
argument around stuff which "seems to matter"... never had a wall covered
with QSL cards, only asked the ones who interested me, which I wanted to
be reminded of, to correspond--hell, guess I am "not with it", but never
have been, don't count one me now to "get with it."
lack-a-daisyial-grin-and-a-wink... that "different drummer" has always
caught my attention, started listening as a youth, never quit...

I have never been afraid to be different, if there is just one of me--so
be it!

John

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 00:51:27 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


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John Smith wrote:
Dee:

I differ with that figure, I think it is inflated about half, this is
VERY apparent when tuning the bands... something is OBVIOUSLY wrong with
that figure. I suspect it is like our "unemployment figure" here in the
USA, that ONLY depicts those who are "drawing" unemployment, not those
who
have used up their unemployment, only worked part time and are not
eligible, those who have given up on looking for work, etc... Those
figures are "cooked" and those in the know--KNOW IT!

John


You purport to be an active radio amateur and you didn't even have a
realistic idea of how many hams there are in the United States? Do you
think the FCC and ARRL are in collusion and they've whipped up some
massive coverup of the number of licensees? Sheesh!

Dave Heil


And he obviously hasn't been on the bands during a major contest! Wall to
wall signals is inadequate to describe the activity.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old August 7th 05, 01:40 AM
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John Smith wrote:
Dee:

Nope, never have seen all the bandwidths in as much use as back during the
70's and early 80's, did you have a ticket back then? My gawd, those
oldtimers have forgotten what a real "pileup" means! Congestion worse
than imagined in my worst nightmare!


It's a nice story. It is a pity that t'ain't true. I've run pileups
spanning five to seven KHz for as long as six hours at a time, working
200-300 CW QSOs per hour. That happened as recently as 2000. DXing and
contesting aren't games about twenty and thirty years ago, they're
about what you've done lately. Contest scores have gotten bigger. The
top scorers work more stations than were worked two or three decades ago.
There are domestic scores now which top the world high scores of that
many years ago.

Dave K8MN
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Old August 7th 05, 01:53 AM
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Dave:

A useful figure here would be the percentage of hams who contest... Dee
seems to think all 600,000 (and yes, I don't think that figure is even
close to correct) do...

John

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 00:40:39 +0000, Dave Heil wrote:

John Smith wrote:
Dee:

Nope, never have seen all the bandwidths in as much use as back during the
70's and early 80's, did you have a ticket back then? My gawd, those
oldtimers have forgotten what a real "pileup" means! Congestion worse
than imagined in my worst nightmare!


It's a nice story. It is a pity that t'ain't true. I've run pileups
spanning five to seven KHz for as long as six hours at a time, working
200-300 CW QSOs per hour. That happened as recently as 2000. DXing and
contesting aren't games about twenty and thirty years ago, they're
about what you've done lately. Contest scores have gotten bigger. The
top scorers work more stations than were worked two or three decades ago.
There are domestic scores now which top the world high scores of that
many years ago.

Dave K8MN


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Old August 7th 05, 06:01 AM
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Dave:

A useful figure here would be the percentage of hams who contest... Dee
seems to think all 600,000 (and yes, I don't think that figure is even
close to correct) do...

John


I have never implied that such a thing is true or that I think it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old August 7th 05, 06:04 AM
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Dee:

Darn girl, you caught me exaggerating! Again! grin

John

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Dave:

A useful figure here would be the percentage of hams who contest... Dee
seems to think all 600,000 (and yes, I don't think that figure is even
close to correct) do...

John


I have never implied that such a thing is true or that I think it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE





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Old August 8th 05, 03:55 AM
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John Smith wrote:

Dave:

A useful figure here would be the percentage of hams who contest... Dee
seems to think all 600,000 (and yes, I don't think that figure is even
close to correct) do...


How else am I gonna get my "Worked All Hams" award, then?

:-)
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Robert:

HUH? attempting-to-keep-a-straight-face

John

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John Smith wrote:

Dave:

A useful figure here would be the percentage of hams who contest... Dee
seems to think all 600,000 (and yes, I don't think that figure is even
close to correct) do...


How else am I gonna get my "Worked All Hams" award, then?

:-)


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John Smith wrote:
Robert:

HUH? attempting-to-keep-a-straight-face

John



How else am I gonna get my "Worked All Hams" award, then?

:-)




To get the "Worked All Hams" award one has to work each
and every licensed ham in the USA. All 600 thousand of them.
Which means they all must be active...

:-)
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Old August 8th 05, 06:25 AM
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Robert:

You may have to enlist Sylvia Brownes' help, I think (my belief, opinion)
is that some of those hams still on the books have entered the "here
after." Propagation into that area is rare at best, and most reports are
highly questionable...

Psychic communications is still in its' infancy, highly sporadic successes
to this date, equipment is sparse... don't prepare a spot on the wall for
that award, yet... grin

John


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John Smith wrote:
Robert:

HUH? attempting-to-keep-a-straight-face

John



How else am I gonna get my "Worked All Hams" award, then?

:-)




To get the "Worked All Hams" award one has to work each
and every licensed ham in the USA. All 600 thousand of them.
Which means they all must be active...

:-)


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Old August 7th 05, 06:00 AM
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
Dee:

Nope, never have seen all the bandwidths in as much use as back during
the
70's and early 80's, did you have a ticket back then? My gawd, those
oldtimers have forgotten what a real "pileup" means! Congestion worse
than imagined in my worst nightmare!


It's a nice story. It is a pity that t'ain't true. I've run pileups
spanning five to seven KHz for as long as six hours at a time, working
200-300 CW QSOs per hour. That happened as recently as 2000. DXing and
contesting aren't games about twenty and thirty years ago, they're about
what you've done lately. Contest scores have gotten bigger. The top
scorers work more stations than were worked two or three decades ago.
There are domestic scores now which top the world high scores of that many
years ago.

Dave K8MN


Well I can attest to the fact that it takes some real finesse and staying
power to snag the rare DX when you are only running 100 watts into a G5RV.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




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