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Old August 12th 05, 06:50 AM
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KØHB wrote:
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Big deal. Gimme the fiber!



Don't hold your breath!

FTTP and FTTC ("Fiber to the [business] Premise" and "Fiber to the Curb") are
both burgeoning because of the "bundling of users" which is possible, but nobody
seems to able to make a viable business case for FTTH ("Fiber To The Home"),
primarily because there is no residental "killer app" out there which demands
the bandwidth of a PON.


hmmm, must not be enough people out there with my problem. The more BW I
get, the more my kid hogs up. I have the ultimate solution though. When
he gets to using too much of my BW, I reach over and unplug him from the
router for a while. And no, he is not amused! 8^) What I would prefer
though, is some sort of Ethernet throttle.

No market demand = no telco is motivated to make the capitol infrastructure
investment.



- Mike KB3EIA
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Old August 12th 05, 07:11 AM
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Mike:

Look into NetLimiter, you can run it on any computer you wish to limit
upload/download speeds on, can also run it on a computer which is serving
as a router--it will do what you want I believe...

Google netlimiter and read about it.

What these devices are is "bandwidth throttles" or "shapers", google with
those terms and it will give you quite a bit to look at.

Linux has many methods, windows is a bit limited, I ended up using
netlimiter for home use...

John


On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:50:18 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote


Big deal. Gimme the fiber!



Don't hold your breath!

FTTP and FTTC ("Fiber to the [business] Premise" and "Fiber to the Curb") are
both burgeoning because of the "bundling of users" which is possible, but nobody
seems to able to make a viable business case for FTTH ("Fiber To The Home"),
primarily because there is no residental "killer app" out there which demands
the bandwidth of a PON.


hmmm, must not be enough people out there with my problem. The more BW I
get, the more my kid hogs up. I have the ultimate solution though. When
he gets to using too much of my BW, I reach over and unplug him from the
router for a while. And no, he is not amused! 8^) What I would prefer
though, is some sort of Ethernet throttle.

No market demand = no telco is motivated to make the capitol infrastructure
investment.



- Mike KB3EIA


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Old August 12th 05, 07:08 PM
Michael Coslo
 
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John Smith wrote:

Mike:

Look into NetLimiter, you can run it on any computer you wish to limit
upload/download speeds on, can also run it on a computer which is serving
as a router--it will do what you want I believe...


Thanks a lot, John. That might help restore family harmony! 8^)


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Old August 12th 05, 07:39 PM
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Michael:

No problem. Everyone sharing a ISP with a teenager needs this survival
kit! The 28 day free evaluation is great!

For Linux rshaper (free of course) is great, just download, build, insert
the module "rshaper.o" into the kernel and use the "rshaperctl" app to
set, for example:
insmod rshaper.o
rshaperctl 192.168.X.XXX 5000 1
(above will limit upload/download to 5K limit--change 5000 to any value
needed--the 1 is the time factor on queuing, set as needed)

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:08:33 -0400, Michael Coslo wrote:

John Smith wrote:

Mike:

Look into NetLimiter, you can run it on any computer you wish to limit
upload/download speeds on, can also run it on a computer which is serving
as a router--it will do what you want I believe...


Thanks a lot, John. That might help restore family harmony! 8^)


- Mike KB3EIA -


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Old August 12th 05, 07:11 AM
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"Mike Coslo" wrote


hmmm, must not be enough people out there with my problem. The more BW I get,
the more my kid hogs up.


The vendors are waiting in the wings (Alcatel, ADC, Cisco, etc.) with equipment,
and they'd like nothing better than to provision a SONET OC3 (155.52MBPS)
termination to your home router! Now all you need to do is convince your
service provider to drag the glass under your street.

73, de Hans, K0HB






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Old August 12th 05, 07:22 AM
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"KØHB" wrote

Now all you need to do is convince your service provider to drag the glass
under your street.


OBTW, I forgot to mention that the current going-rate for a base OC3 circuit
(glass lit at the provider end, but customer provides the premise termination
electronics) starts around $20K/mo. But hey, it'll haul about 100 T1 circuits
for your kids online gaming needs.

73, de Hans, K0HB




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