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The article also accepts without question the idea that
fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
communities - another Bush Administration bit of rightthink.


Actually this would be more of a liberal idea. It surprises me that a
Republican administration would buy into this.

Thanks for posting the link. Anybody besides me and the original poster
actually listen to it?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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[snip]

The article also accepts without question the idea that
fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
communities - another Bush Administration bit of rightthink.


Actually this would be more of a liberal idea. It surprises me that a
Republican administration would buy into this.

Thanks for posting the link. Anybody besides me and the original poster
actually listen to it?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Hello, Dee

Liberal? Pushing for more money for power companies? Please forgive my
ignorance, but if I follow the money trail, it leads to big business
(monopolies, at that).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

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[snip]

The article also accepts without question the idea that
fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
communities - another Bush Administration bit of rightthink.


Actually this would be more of a liberal idea. It surprises me that a
Republican administration would buy into this.

Thanks for posting the link. Anybody besides me and the original poster
actually listen to it?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Hello, Dee

Liberal? Pushing for more money for power companies? Please forgive my
ignorance, but if I follow the money trail, it leads to big business
(monopolies, at that).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


Liberal because it is being pushed as every having a "right" to broadband.
Yes follow the money and it leads to as many liberal business men as it does
conservative ones.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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[snip]

The article also accepts without question the idea that
fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
communities - another Bush Administration bit
of rightthink.


Actually this would be more of a liberal idea.
It surprises me that a
Republican administration would buy into this.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Thanks for posting the link. Anybody besides me and the
original poster actually listen to it?

Hello, Dee

Liberal? Pushing for more money for power companies? Please forgive my
ignorance, but if I follow the money trail, it leads to big
business (monopolies, at that).

Exactly.

Liberal because it is being pushed as every having a "right" to broadband.

I don't hear that in the article at all. What *is* mentioned is
the idea that the town needs it for their economy.

Yes follow the money and it leads to as many liberal business
men as it does conservative ones.

Sorry, Dee, I don't see that at all.

BPL is basically bad science and bad engineering,
pushed by the promise of being a quick "high-tech"
fix. Fits right in with the current administration's
attitude towards science and technology.

The pollution angle alone shows it to be a bad idea.

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:28:56 -0400 Dee Flint wrote:
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| wrote in message
| ups.com...
| wrote:
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| [snip]
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| The article also accepts without question the idea that
| fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
| communities - another Bush Administration bit of rightthink.
|
|
| Actually this would be more of a liberal idea. It surprises me that a
| Republican administration would buy into this.

Bush has many friends who are energy company executives, board members,
and investors. He's doing his friends a favor by supporting their bad
ideas, even though in the long term, BPL is doomed to flop because it
simply cannot keep up with the coming fiber technology, or even match
what some DSL and cable/coaxial deployments are already doing.

BPL is a _waste_ of power company investment dollars, which will be
diverted away from crucially needed infrastructure updates to become
capable of handling new energy needs of the future, and to be secure
against terrorist attacks. BPL actually puts the nation at more risk
than it has now.

If power companies want to play "me too" in the information services
game, then what they should do is just trump everyone else by rolling
out fiber now in the right-of-ways they already have. They could kill
the rest of the market by deploying a gigabit fiber infrastructure.
Even Verizon's fiber offering wouldn't be close.

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.... I don't think that is anything more than a myth you are beginning,
perhaps you picked up that myth from some other place?

Fiber lines are owned by a specific entity, power lines can be leased for
such use by anyone... the costs are going to be very much different
between the two...

John

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005
23:59:08 +0000, phil-news-nospam wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:28:56 -0400 Dee Flint wrote:
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| wrote in message
| ups.com...
| wrote:
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| [snip]
|
| The article also accepts without question the idea that
| fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
| communities - another Bush Administration bit of rightthink.
|
|
| Actually this would be more of a liberal idea. It surprises me that a
| Republican administration would buy into this.

Bush has many friends who are energy company executives, board members,
and investors. He's doing his friends a favor by supporting their bad
ideas, even though in the long term, BPL is doomed to flop because it
simply cannot keep up with the coming fiber technology, or even match
what some DSL and cable/coaxial deployments are already doing.

BPL is a _waste_ of power company investment dollars, which will be
diverted away from crucially needed infrastructure updates to become
capable of handling new energy needs of the future, and to be secure
against terrorist attacks. BPL actually puts the nation at more risk
than it has now.

If power companies want to play "me too" in the information services
game, then what they should do is just trump everyone else by rolling
out fiber now in the right-of-ways they already have. They could kill
the rest of the market by deploying a gigabit fiber infrastructure.
Even Verizon's fiber offering wouldn't be close.

Dee Flint wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote:


[snip]


The article also accepts without question the idea that
fast internet access is a necessity for all Americans and their
communities - another Bush Administration bit of rightthink.



Actually this would be more of a liberal idea. It surprises me that a
Republican administration would buy into this.

There is a lot of money to be made - even if it doesn't work very well.
Democrats have *not* cornered the market on bad ideas! 8^)

That is why I call it "faith based engineering". It *sounds* like a
great idea to use all those electrical lines to run the signals.

Reminds me of when I was a little kid, and though that we could fill
the cars gas tank by driving in reverse..... 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -