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Dave Heil wrote:
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From: John Smith on Aug 22, 3:22 pm


Dan:

What is "good for amateur radio" has to be "what is good for the
people",
and NOT "what is good for my klick."


No, John, it IS for their clique...except they can't see anything
but their clique as being "amateur radio."

You have a point, Len. There is an amateur radio clique. Those who are
radio amateurs are a part of it. You aren't.

More lies on your part

You and I are not part of the same clique



Which is what you are really
stating, it is just a bunch of "good ole cb buddies", but thinking of
themselves in some glorified manner!


To Dan the ARS stands for Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society.

Is there proof of your statement?

yes

your support of morse code welfare

cut

Thank goodness. Well at least "old friend" knows he is not in the group.

I for one am proud to hold a Amateur Radio License. I have NO REASON at all
to not be. On the other hand we have.......well you know who you are.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: John Smith on Aug 22, 3:22 pm


Dan:

What is "good for amateur radio" has to be "what is good for the
people",
and NOT "what is good for my klick."


No, John, it IS for their clique...except they can't see anything
but their clique as being "amateur radio."

You have a point, Len. There is an amateur radio clique. Those who are
radio amateurs are a part of it. You aren't.

More lies on your part

You and I are not part of the same clique



Which is what you are really
stating, it is just a bunch of "good ole cb buddies", but thinking of
themselves in some glorified manner!


To Dan the ARS stands for Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society.

Is there proof of your statement?

yes

your support of morse code welfare

cut

Thank goodness. Well at least "old friend" knows he is not in the group.

I for one am proud to hold a Amateur Radio License. I have NO REASON at all
to not be. On the other hand we have.......well you know who you are.

So am I proud of my license just not proud of many of the other holders
of them, esp those that put their mode ahead of the interests of the
rest of us

Dan/W4NTI

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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: John Smith on Aug 22, 3:22 pm


Dan:

What is "good for amateur radio" has to be "what is good for the
people",
and NOT "what is good for my klick."


No, John, it IS for their clique...except they can't see anything
but their clique as being "amateur radio."

You have a point, Len. There is an amateur radio clique. Those who
are
radio amateurs are a part of it. You aren't.

More lies on your part

You and I are not part of the same clique



Which is what you are really
stating, it is just a bunch of "good ole cb buddies", but thinking
of
themselves in some glorified manner!


To Dan the ARS stands for Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society.

Is there proof of your statement?

yes

your support of morse code welfare

cut

Thank goodness. Well at least "old friend" knows he is not in the
group.

I for one am proud to hold a Amateur Radio License. I have NO REASON at
all
to not be. On the other hand we have.......well you know who you are.

So am I proud of my license just not proud of many of the other holders
of them, esp those that put their mode ahead of the interests of the
rest of us

And by that you are infering that I do that, eh? Give me an example.
Besides a quote from Lennie that is.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
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cut your support of morse code welfare

cut

Thank goodness. Well at least "old friend" knows he is not in the
group.

I for one am proud to hold a Amateur Radio License. I have NO REASON at
all
to not be. On the other hand we have.......well you know who you are.

So am I proud of my license just not proud of many of the other holders
of them, esp those that put their mode ahead of the interests of the
rest of us

And by that you are infering that I do that, eh? Give me an example.
Besides a quote from Lennie that is.

your own support of proetected segments for CW for one another you
attitutde that new comers must mind there place
all your words not lens

Dan/W4NTI

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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cut your support of morse code welfare

cut

Thank goodness. Well at least "old friend" knows he is not in the
group.

I for one am proud to hold a Amateur Radio License. I have NO REASON
at
all
to not be. On the other hand we have.......well you know who you
are.

So am I proud of my license just not proud of many of the other holders
of them, esp those that put their mode ahead of the interests of the
rest of us

And by that you are infering that I do that, eh? Give me an example.
Besides a quote from Lennie that is.

your own support of proetected segments for CW for one another you
attitutde that new comers must mind there place
all your words not lens

Dan/W4NTI


Well at least I have the gonads to use a real call and name.

First off asking for a CW only segment is not all that far fetched. I have
been trying to work on 40 cw ever since the ARRL came out with the latest
"gentleman's agreement" of allowing digital to operate within the CW ranges.
Total failure. So why should I expect anything better? Of course BB you
wouldn't know that would you? So why not just stick with what you KNOW
about? And do us all a favor.

You are obviously a product of the 1960 feel good free love society. You
were most certainly TAUGHT by them. I feel sorry for you. This actually
explains your problem. So I can't blame you for your "problems".

Don't forget to send in those dues to the ACLU.

Dan/W4NTI

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
cut
s

And by that you are infering that I do that, eh? Give me an example.
Besides a quote from Lennie that is.

your own support of proetected segments for CW for one another you
attitutde that new comers must mind there place
all your words not lens

Dan/W4NTI


Well at least I have the gonads to use a real call and name.

First off asking for a CW only segment is not all that far fetched. I have

After for a CW Only segment and expecting to gte what you want is plain
nuts. look what happend in VHF you got a couple right at the top of 2M
and at the top of some other band

been trying to work on 40 cw ever since the ARRL came out with the latest
"gentleman's agreement" of allowing digital to operate within the CW ranges.
Total failure. So why should I expect anything better? Of course BB you

Total failure meaning CW can't compete as I have beens aying for years

wouldn't know that would you? So why not just stick with what you KNOW
about? And do us all a favor.

why don't you grow up and stop asking for protection of your petty
interests?


You are obviously a product of the 1960 feel good free love society. You
were most certainly TAUGHT by them. I feel sorry for you. This actually
explains your problem. So I can't blame you for your "problems".

Naw you have it wrong again. I am a bit too old to taught by the 1960's
folks

Don't forget to send in those dues to the ACLU.

No way the ACLU isn't the demon say Bill O'Riealy wants to make them
out as as but they are not folks that I support either

Dan/W4NTI

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cut
s

And by that you are infering that I do that, eh? Give me an example.
Besides a quote from Lennie that is.

your own support of proetected segments for CW for one another you
attitutde that new comers must mind there place
all your words not lens

Dan/W4NTI


Well at least I have the gonads to use a real call and name.

First off asking for a CW only segment is not all that far fetched. I
have

After for a CW Only segment and expecting to gte what you want is plain
nuts. look what happend in VHF you got a couple right at the top of 2M
and at the top of some other band

Dang......are you saying we had a CW assignment at the 147.995 range or
something? If we did, I don't remember it.

been trying to work on 40 cw ever since the ARRL came out with the latest
"gentleman's agreement" of allowing digital to operate within the CW
ranges.
Total failure. So why should I expect anything better? Of course BB
you

Total failure meaning CW can't compete as I have beens aying for years


No dummy that is not what I said, or mean. It is the non CW qualified types
that just dump on top of a on-going CW communication....because they have no
idea it is a real communication. Because they can't copy it. Clear now?

And that is exactly what will happen in the event of NOT having a exclusive
CW segement.


wouldn't know that would you? So why not just stick with what you KNOW
about? And do us all a favor.

why don't you grow up and stop asking for protection of your petty
interests?

Why can't you admit that you know NOTHING about the subject and just go
away???


You are obviously a product of the 1960 feel good free love society. You
were most certainly TAUGHT by them. I feel sorry for you. This
actually
explains your problem. So I can't blame you for your "problems".

Naw you have it wrong again. I am a bit too old to taught by the 1960's
folks

Then I really feel sorry for you. You must have grown up in the 60s and
your MaryJane brain is still screwed up from all the sessions.


Don't forget to send in those dues to the ACLU.

No way the ACLU isn't the demon say Bill O'Riealy wants to make them
out as as but they are not folks that I support either

Wow.....so when are you going to start acting right?

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

First off asking for a CW only segment is not all that
far fetched.

It's actually a very good idea.

I have
been trying to work on 40 cw ever since the ARRL came
out with the latest
"gentleman's agreement" of allowing digital to operate within
the CW ranges.

?? I'm not sure what you mean, Dan.

For decades it's been legal to operate "digital modes" (RTTY, PSK31,
etc.) everywhere in the non-voice parts of the HF ham bands. Including
40 meters.

I dunno which gentleman's agreement you mean, but the ARRL
"regulation by bandwidth" proposal is just that - a
proposal, nothing more. Needs more work IMHO.

Total failure.

Well, I just worked a K4 station not far from you. Nice QSO. Neither of
us had high power or big antennas, but we did fine. 7037 kHz. Morse
Code, of course.

btw, there were many Morse Code signals on 40 between 7000 and 7050 -
and it's not even dark out yet.

So why should I expect anything better?

Well, I hope for the best.

See you in 40, Dan.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:

First off asking for a CW only segment is not all that
far fetched.

It's actually a very good idea.

I have
been trying to work on 40 cw ever since the ARRL came
out with the latest
"gentleman's agreement" of allowing digital to operate within
the CW ranges.

?? I'm not sure what you mean, Dan.

For decades it's been legal to operate "digital modes" (RTTY, PSK31,
etc.) everywhere in the non-voice parts of the HF ham bands. Including
40 meters.

I dunno which gentleman's agreement you mean, but the ARRL
"regulation by bandwidth" proposal is just that - a
proposal, nothing more. Needs more work IMHO.

Total failure.

Well, I just worked a K4 station not far from you. Nice QSO. Neither of
us had high power or big antennas, but we did fine. 7037 kHz. Morse
Code, of course.

btw, there were many Morse Code signals on 40 between 7000 and 7050 -
and it's not even dark out yet.

So why should I expect anything better?

Well, I hope for the best.

See you in 40, Dan.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Tell you what Jim, listen during a RTTY contest weekend. Like when the
NAQP CW is on this winter season.

It is just an example of what it will be like with massive digital action.
Just watch and see.

There are no more gentlemen Jim. Take away their ability to recognize CW as
a real communication method and you will have chaos. This is what I'm
referring to.

Dan/W4NTI

From: Dan/W4NTI on Aug 25, 3:41 pm


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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
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Well at least I have the gonads to use a real call and name.

Is "W4NTI" your legal surname? :-)

We can't see your "gonads." Is having some a requirement of
being licensed as an amateur? I don't think so.

First off asking for a CW only segment is not all that far fetched.

That is NOT a subject of NPRM 05-143 nor for WT Docket 05-235.

You CAN Petition the FCC to get a RADIOTELEGRAPHY only sub-band.
You CANNOT run Continuous Wave (CW) any longer than is required
for tune-up purposes. That's in the regulations. Didn't you
see it?

You WILL have to make a good, reasonable case for this sole-
mode segment of 40m band. Remember that the government of the
United States does NOT run solely on your personal wishes.

Meanwhile, WT Docket 05-235 is solely about the elimination or
retention of the morse code test for a U.S. amateur radio license
having below-30-MHz operating privileges. Try to remember that.

I have
been trying to work on 40 cw ever since the ARRL came out with the latest
"gentleman's agreement" of allowing digital to operate within the CW ranges.
Total failure.

Try using a radio and a decent antenna. That works better.

So why should I expect anything better? Of course BB you
wouldn't know that would you? So why not just stick with what you KNOW
about? And do us all a favor.

Dannie boy, will you PLEASE quit hopping up and down when you
get so angry? Remember you are on disability...if the authorities
catch you being so physically aggressive you might lose your
benefits. Tsk, tsk.

You are obviously a product of the 1960 feel good free love society.

I thought the 1960s were an EXCELLENT time. That's when I met my
late first wife. Whatsamatta, Dannie, couldn't you "get any?" :-)

You were most certainly TAUGHT by them. I feel sorry for you.

Now, now, you are sending nastygrams again. Remember when the
Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse were TAUGHT. You are insulting
your morse brethren.

This actually
explains your problem. So I can't blame you for your "problems".

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Still more of the nastygrams. Did you get those
off the NTS?

Don't forget to send in those dues to the ACLU.

Don't forget to return your rented uniform of General George
Patton to Western Costume Company. Late fees are steep.

Tenshion-HUTT! salute one-finger