Stevie has for some time been spearding the Lie that he could o
something to more than anoy for what he sees as many and manifold sins

9 Days ago I demanded he put up or shut up, I'd prfer of course that he
shut up, but it was his choice.

His response was to threaten me even further

Finaly 7 days ago he claimed to have taken action

He has claimed to have taken action that would result in people staring
at me or driving past the house differently

Action that I would notice

Guess what? Stevie Lied.

And Stevie can't tolerate Liars

yet he lies

Stevie claims Lying is a evil on a par with Kiddy Porn and spouse
abuse, and yet he lies.

when are you going to come clean and admit your lies

an_old_friend wrote:
Stevie has for some time been spearding the Lie that he could o
something to more than anoy for what he sees as many and manifold sins

"spreading" "do" "annoy" "manifest"

No lies, Markie...Except from you.

9 Days ago I demanded he put up or shut up, I'd prfer of course that he
shut up, but it was his choice.

"prefer"

His response was to threaten me even further

What threats?

Finaly 7 days ago he claimed to have taken action

I have.

He has claimed to have taken action that would result in people staring
at me or driving past the house differently

I didn't say they would. I said "Have you noticed?" That's a
question, not a statement.

Action that I would notice

Guess what? Stevie Lied.

Nope.

And Stevie can't tolerate Liars

I don't. That's why you can't post without having obvious
mistruths laid bare.

yet he lies

Nope.

Stevie claims Lying is a evil on a par with Kiddy Porn and spouse
abuse, and yet he lies.

"is AN evil"

And no lies.

when are you going to come clean and admit your lies

Had a real nice hot shower this morning before going to the
Huntsville Hamfest. Didn't need one to admit any lies as I haven't
lied.

You have, however.

Mostly to yourself.

And your "day-by-day" accounting adds up to more paranoia.
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Steve, K4YZ

On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.


Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?







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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.


Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?


you noticed Stevie caginess Now if they were combined with bit of
caution elsewhere I could understand them Indeed thanks to folks like
Stevie ia void anything in here that can be pinned down

As to prostate exams well that would fit with Stevie obsesstion about
male body parts that he clearly displays


BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

I would sugest telling them that it isn't worth their while presuing
Him, The Powers that be dlon't care if threaten to kil people on
Usenet, most of Law enforcement looks on the place as a sewer. IiT has
its uses but with the current crop it is rough even using it to hash
out ideas







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From: Frank Gilliland on Aug 20, 5:21 pm

On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in

snip

Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

Oh, ohhh...now begins another tirade of Stebie against the world.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie.

Welcome to the club, Frank. :-)

Stebie gonna shout, "CALL THE VA!" :-)

Of course, if one isn't a personnel person in a business or a
family member/relation, DETAILS will be null, zero, none. It's
a matter of a LAW passed (in the 70s?) by Congress forbidding
free and open release of data to just anyone about military
records. shrug

So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Stebie wouldn't admit it if he was... :-)

Stebie now gonna shout, "YOU ARE AGINST HAM RADIO!" or other,
unrelated to the subject personal insults in response. It's
predictable from past puerility of his.

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Well, Frank, all I can say at this point is that we got a NEW
kettle of fish to make more bad bouillabaise about in here. :-)

vin fiz

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.


Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do, so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!

Several of my "buds" (with whom I still stay in contact with) from
the MCAS El Toro Aero Club were tracks and armor guys from Pendleton.
What are the odds if I say "Who's Frank Gilliland and what did he do
for the Marines?" that they'll shrug their shoulders and say "Frank
who...?!?!"

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

Steve, K4YZ

On 21 Aug 2005 04:39:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
. com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.


Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Thank you for that passive-agressive response; it did much to confirm
my suspicions.


After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do,


Even more than you might expect.


so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!


I call it like I see it.


Several of my "buds" (with whom I still stay in contact with) from
the MCAS El Toro Aero Club were tracks and armor guys from Pendleton.


......"armor guys"?


What are the odds if I say "Who's Frank Gilliland and what did he do
for the Marines?" that they'll shrug their shoulders and say "Frank
who...?!?!"


You never know. Quite a few friends from boot camp ended up at
Pendleton (including one of the Marines currently on active-duty that
I contacted), and I was with 2nd AAV for almost a year. I also used to
hang out with some of the tankers at Stumps. Don't forget that there
weren't too many Marines in garrison after Viet-Nam, and techs were an
even smaller group. If you know a radio tech from tanks or amtraks at
the same time I was in then there's a real possibility he knows me or
I know him (or her, although most WM techs were sent to 4th or 5th
echelon stations). Heck, I even know a couple that got stationed in
Hawaii, the lucky *******s! But it might help to mention that I went
to GRRC at Stumps with the late Cpl. Moses Arnold -- the "class
clown", and truly one of the nicest guys you could ever meet (yeah,
people say that casually about a lot of people but Moses earned it).
To make things even easier for you, would it help if I provided a list
of recruits from my platoon at MCRD? Or the Marines from the BE and
GRRC classes at MCCES? Or from the Comm Platoons at 3/8 or 2nd AAV?
It's not a problem since I remember almost all their names. Most
Marines do, which is why I don't think you will have much of a problem
finding at least one or two that remember me. So feel free to check
with your fellow Marines (assuming, of course, you are telling the
truth).

And if you happen to doubt -my- service in the USMC, feel free to
check the front desk register (late Spring to early Fall, 1984) at the
US/UK embassy in Beirut. Or you could email Ollie North (then a Major)
who's office was on the 4th floor at the end of the hall opposite to
the ambassador's office. He might remember me as the tech from the
Nassau who put his sat dish back up after the mortar round bounced off
the roof, and replaced the power supply for his URM-201 with the
shop's ugly-but-reliable supply with the plywood bottom. (BTW, if you
-do- get into contact with Lt. Col. North, ask him if he knows who
owned that mint 1961 Chrysler 300 in the back parking lot!)


BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.


I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.









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Frank Gilliland wrote:

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

Stolen Valor comes to mind when Steve slipped about his "seven hostile
actions."

From: Frank Gilliland on Aug 21, 6:37 am

On 21 Aug 2005 04:39:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Thank you for that passive-agressive response; it did much to confirm
my suspicions.

You are quite right in your suspicions, Frank.

You will note that Robeson, when challenged, will immediately go
into deliberate misdirection with his hyena laughter or the
accusations of some sort of personal perfidy. It's almost SOP
for him.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do,

Even more than you might expect.

:-)

so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!

I call it like I see it.

We all do. :-)

snip

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

More SOP responses from Robeson. He avoids the direct response,
trying to imply that anyone who challenges him is a "fool" or
worse. It's an old tactic in pubs-newsgroup word warfare. :-(

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

Robeson has only ONCE made ANY reference to radio or electronic
equipment name, nomenclature, or familiar name. That one time
was in regards to MARS radio equipments. Eighteen years as an
avionics MOS and he can't name a single piece of equipment by
formal or familiar name? Unheard of in my service days, in my
work, including field trips to the military installations and
being around servicemen IN radio-electronics.

Earlier on, Robeson tried to avoid naming anything by stating
"he couldn't give away any secrets." A rather stupid remark in
iteself since the NAMES of radio-electronics equipment has NOT
been secret, has been published in Defense Electronics trade
magazine, been on the various branches' procurement IFBs
(Invitation For Bid), government reports, and so forth. Their
names, general function, all have been on public documents
for a half century. Brochures and pamphlets have been released
for publication about many forms of communications, done by
military units themselves...one of which is the main part of:


http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history...phabetsoup.pdf

Robeson couldn't even name the very common all-service small-unit
radio of his early time, the AN/PRC-25 or PRC-77. Only an eighth
of a million of those two types were produced. He couldn't recall
a single airborne radio name, not even the venerable AN/ARC-27
(before his time, really) or the (after his time) AN/ARC-210.
He didn't know the SINCGARS family of all-service small-unit
radios even though a quarter million sets were produced between
1989 and 2004. Radios. Military radios. "Not known" by someone
who had been in the Corps for 18 years, claiming to be "in"
radio communications? Highly unlikely. None of the "military
radio experience" posters in here knew the military designation
of the Collins KWM-2 transceiver, often used in MARS operations
in Vietnam. A ham, an Extra, who isn't familiar with Collins
Radios? Highly unlikely.

In much earlier newsgroup postings, Robeson stated he had a
medical discharge to explain not completing a full 20 years,
"due to an accident." Then, after several days, he changed
that to "honorable" claiming it was "changed later" by some
unspecified authority. Medical discharges are given for a
variety of reasons, not always due to physical disabilities.
[that's in Google archives]

Robeson has consistently tried to make fun of others' military
assignments, claiming his (classic) been in "seven hostile
actions." First of all servicemenbers don't have any choice
of what they do, they go and do whatever they are assigned,
wherever commanded. Only one out of about seven military
land forces, Army or Marines, are IN any combat zone or
actual fighting territory during a "hostile action." Second,
Robeson has NEVER DEFINED HIS "hostile action" in any specifics
as to WHEN and WHERE. He has glossed it over in generalities
"explaining" that he "knows it and need not explain it to us."
He usually remarks that HE has the "documentation" for it but
it remains unseen by the rest of us. He postures and preens,
implies greatness but without details. In other words, BS.

A classic case of Robeson's word-twisting is his "dishonoring"
charge that I "embellish my military career" by honoring the
19 members of my Signal Battalion killed in a transport crash
on 1 July 1950, three years before I was assigned to that
Battalion. "My" battalion lost 4 more afterwards. I have a
list of all those names, even their ASNs (Army Serial Numbers)
and honor them especially every Memorial Day when I join other
veterans in Memorial Day ceremonies, even for simple things
like putting flags on their gravesites. That sort of word-
twisting has become common to Robeson's postings in here,
an extreme sensitivity (or volatility) to anything negative
against his words spat out in a flurry of personal insults.

Take his use of the word "Putz" above his message signatures.
He isn't of a Yiddish ethnic group, isn't a Jew, yet he uses
a Yiddish pejorative freely as if he were. [as a pejorative
it means "penis head" in reference to one who can only think
with his penis] That four-letter word is "acceptible" yet if
another poster is quoted using four-letter words they are
octothorped-out (the octothorpe or # symbol replacing the
letters). This fierce warrior, self-promoted "seven hostile
action" implied hero can't even swear like a Marine among
other veterans? Highly unlikely. :-)

Phrases and euphemisms identified with the USMC are easy to
get in literature and from TV and movies (tons of that
material). Using such things is also easy enough to do...in
generalities. Imposters slip up when confronted with DETAILS
or specific-time/era-use phrases that weren't familiar to the
pharse-user's time. Robeson is big on generalities, very
short on specifics.

Robeson wants to be a Big Name. Any which way he can. He is
military-minded, with any photo of him on the 'web IN UNIFORM
of some sort, green scrubs to CAP-patched flight suit. He is
an amateur extra, yet never worked IN military radio comms.
He bragged of having a civilian private pilot's license
before joining the Corps yet never became Air Crew in the Corps.
He uses phrases like "pilot in command" of a general aviation
single-engine aircraft like he was the commander of a 747. :-)

He gets what he probably wanted all the time - ATTENTION. He
manages to cuss out every one of his opponents in any thread,
turning that thread into a running battle of Stebie FIGHTS
The World...heaping abuse on his "opponents" as if his life
depends on it. Maybe it does.

TEM fry

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 21 Aug 2005 04:39:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
. com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.


Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Thank you for that passive-agressive response; it did much to confirm
my suspicions.

I am sure it did. But then I am beginning to see a pattern too...

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do,

Even more than you might expect.

so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!

I call it like I see it.

Then your vision is in need os assessment by a good opthamologist
of your choice.

Several of my "buds" (with whom I still stay in contact with) from
the MCAS El Toro Aero Club were tracks and armor guys from Pendleton.


....."armor guys"?

Uh huh...Neat thing, military aeroclubs. The person sitting next
to you might be fresh off the yellow foot prints or wear stars on thier
collar.

What are the odds if I say "Who's Frank Gilliland and what did he do
for the Marines?" that they'll shrug their shoulders and say "Frank
who...?!?!"


You never know. Quite a few friends from boot camp ended up at
Pendleton (including one of the Marines currently on active-duty that
I contacted), and I was with 2nd AAV for almost a year. I also used to
hang out with some of the tankers at Stumps. Don't forget that there
weren't too many Marines in garrison after Viet-Nam, and techs were an
even smaller group. If you know a radio tech from tanks or amtraks at
the same time I was in then there's a real possibility he knows me or
I know him (or her, although most WM techs were sent to 4th or 5th
echelon stations). Heck, I even know a couple that got stationed in
Hawaii, the lucky *******s! But it might help to mention that I went
to GRRC at Stumps with the late Cpl. Moses Arnold -- the "class
clown", and truly one of the nicest guys you could ever meet (yeah,
people say that casually about a lot of people but Moses earned it).
To make things even easier for you, would it help if I provided a list
of recruits from my platoon at MCRD? Or the Marines from the BE and
GRRC classes at MCCES? Or from the Comm Platoons at 3/8 or 2nd AAV?
It's not a problem since I remember almost all their names. Most
Marines do, which is why I don't think you will have much of a problem
finding at least one or two that remember me. So feel free to check
with your fellow Marines (assuming, of course, you are telling the
truth).

My I draw your obviously tainted opinon to SSGT selection board of
1983, Precendent number 60A. You may also refer to the Gunnery
Sergeant selection board of 1987. To be truthful, I forgot my
precedent number on that one but it was high due to the overlap with
the previous years promotions.

And if you happen to doubt -my- service in the USMC...(SNIP)

No...but I doubt your understanding of the motto "Semper Fidelis".

I also question your motives in this forum. So far, nothing
relevent, other than catching the back of guys who are archived chronic
liars.

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

And I told you if you'd care to e-mail me directly I'd be glad to
give it to you off-group. I've explained my reasons for doing so.

Steve, K4YZ