Frank Gilliland wrote:

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

Stolen Valor comes to mind when Steve slipped about his "seven hostile
actions."

an_old_friend wrote:
KY4Z wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Stevie has for some time been spearding the Lie that he could o
something to more than anoy for what he sees as many and manifold sins
cuting spelling cop
No lies, Markie...Except from you.

9 Days ago I demanded he put up or shut up, I'd prfer of course that he
shut up, but it was his choice.

cuting more speling cop

Mark, how many days do you think Steve can hold out before he starts
telling truths?

From: Frank Gilliland on Aug 21, 6:37 am

On 21 Aug 2005 04:39:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Thank you for that passive-agressive response; it did much to confirm
my suspicions.

You are quite right in your suspicions, Frank.

You will note that Robeson, when challenged, will immediately go
into deliberate misdirection with his hyena laughter or the
accusations of some sort of personal perfidy. It's almost SOP
for him.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do,

Even more than you might expect.

:-)

so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!

I call it like I see it.

We all do. :-)

snip

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

More SOP responses from Robeson. He avoids the direct response,
trying to imply that anyone who challenges him is a "fool" or
worse. It's an old tactic in pubs-newsgroup word warfare. :-(

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

Robeson has only ONCE made ANY reference to radio or electronic
equipment name, nomenclature, or familiar name. That one time
was in regards to MARS radio equipments. Eighteen years as an
avionics MOS and he can't name a single piece of equipment by
formal or familiar name? Unheard of in my service days, in my
work, including field trips to the military installations and
being around servicemen IN radio-electronics.

Earlier on, Robeson tried to avoid naming anything by stating
"he couldn't give away any secrets." A rather stupid remark in
iteself since the NAMES of radio-electronics equipment has NOT
been secret, has been published in Defense Electronics trade
magazine, been on the various branches' procurement IFBs
(Invitation For Bid), government reports, and so forth. Their
names, general function, all have been on public documents
for a half century. Brochures and pamphlets have been released
for publication about many forms of communications, done by
military units themselves...one of which is the main part of:


http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history...phabetsoup.pdf

Robeson couldn't even name the very common all-service small-unit
radio of his early time, the AN/PRC-25 or PRC-77. Only an eighth
of a million of those two types were produced. He couldn't recall
a single airborne radio name, not even the venerable AN/ARC-27
(before his time, really) or the (after his time) AN/ARC-210.
He didn't know the SINCGARS family of all-service small-unit
radios even though a quarter million sets were produced between
1989 and 2004. Radios. Military radios. "Not known" by someone
who had been in the Corps for 18 years, claiming to be "in"
radio communications? Highly unlikely. None of the "military
radio experience" posters in here knew the military designation
of the Collins KWM-2 transceiver, often used in MARS operations
in Vietnam. A ham, an Extra, who isn't familiar with Collins
Radios? Highly unlikely.

In much earlier newsgroup postings, Robeson stated he had a
medical discharge to explain not completing a full 20 years,
"due to an accident." Then, after several days, he changed
that to "honorable" claiming it was "changed later" by some
unspecified authority. Medical discharges are given for a
variety of reasons, not always due to physical disabilities.
[that's in Google archives]

Robeson has consistently tried to make fun of others' military
assignments, claiming his (classic) been in "seven hostile
actions." First of all servicemenbers don't have any choice
of what they do, they go and do whatever they are assigned,
wherever commanded. Only one out of about seven military
land forces, Army or Marines, are IN any combat zone or
actual fighting territory during a "hostile action." Second,
Robeson has NEVER DEFINED HIS "hostile action" in any specifics
as to WHEN and WHERE. He has glossed it over in generalities
"explaining" that he "knows it and need not explain it to us."
He usually remarks that HE has the "documentation" for it but
it remains unseen by the rest of us. He postures and preens,
implies greatness but without details. In other words, BS.

A classic case of Robeson's word-twisting is his "dishonoring"
charge that I "embellish my military career" by honoring the
19 members of my Signal Battalion killed in a transport crash
on 1 July 1950, three years before I was assigned to that
Battalion. "My" battalion lost 4 more afterwards. I have a
list of all those names, even their ASNs (Army Serial Numbers)
and honor them especially every Memorial Day when I join other
veterans in Memorial Day ceremonies, even for simple things
like putting flags on their gravesites. That sort of word-
twisting has become common to Robeson's postings in here,
an extreme sensitivity (or volatility) to anything negative
against his words spat out in a flurry of personal insults.

Take his use of the word "Putz" above his message signatures.
He isn't of a Yiddish ethnic group, isn't a Jew, yet he uses
a Yiddish pejorative freely as if he were. [as a pejorative
it means "penis head" in reference to one who can only think
with his penis] That four-letter word is "acceptible" yet if
another poster is quoted using four-letter words they are
octothorped-out (the octothorpe or # symbol replacing the
letters). This fierce warrior, self-promoted "seven hostile
action" implied hero can't even swear like a Marine among
other veterans? Highly unlikely. :-)

Phrases and euphemisms identified with the USMC are easy to
get in literature and from TV and movies (tons of that
material). Using such things is also easy enough to do...in
generalities. Imposters slip up when confronted with DETAILS
or specific-time/era-use phrases that weren't familiar to the
pharse-user's time. Robeson is big on generalities, very
short on specifics.

Robeson wants to be a Big Name. Any which way he can. He is
military-minded, with any photo of him on the 'web IN UNIFORM
of some sort, green scrubs to CAP-patched flight suit. He is
an amateur extra, yet never worked IN military radio comms.
He bragged of having a civilian private pilot's license
before joining the Corps yet never became Air Crew in the Corps.
He uses phrases like "pilot in command" of a general aviation
single-engine aircraft like he was the commander of a 747. :-)

He gets what he probably wanted all the time - ATTENTION. He
manages to cuss out every one of his opponents in any thread,
turning that thread into a running battle of Stebie FIGHTS
The World...heaping abuse on his "opponents" as if his life
depends on it. Maybe it does.

TEM fry

From: on Aug 21, 10:34 am


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in


Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie.

He does that with his threats, too. "Bricks through windows, slashed
tires, and terrorized wives." I think he's a creep.

Don't forget the "...just a few ounces of pressure" classic, or
"I will be up your way soon [and confront you]" impled threat, or
"I only have to pick up a phone and my authority will have you
picked up!" (which I think is the topper of them all).


So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Steve has almost total fixation with Len's "putz."

Jealousy? :-)

He frequenly used
phrases like "bunk-buddy" "in bed with" when referring to two men.

Oy, veh, such a schlemiel! :-)

[has Stebie been to Temple yet?]

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

I'm still waiting to hear Steve's war stories about his claimed "seven
hostile actions." The Stolen Valor investigators might be interested.

Maybe we could get the producers of "CSI" to do a special episode
on the resolution of all this? Get him on the stainless steel
"bed" and do a Y-cut to check his innards? Or maybe the Home and
Garden TV Channel for a special Lawn Order show? :-)

[I find more entertainment in watching my hard disk defrag...:-) ]

gun poo

Len:

We share the same fondness for stories of fiction, daredevils and men
saving the world with a brass key. Secret agent types who the gov't has
hidden away in secret and strategic positions on this planet--posing under
the guise of amateur radio operators with hobby permits...

Diabolical, don't ya think? Those stupid terrorists probably don't even
have a clue!!!

John

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:27:37 -0700, LenAnderson wrote:

From: on Aug 21, 10:34 am


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in


Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie.

He does that with his threats, too. "Bricks through windows, slashed
tires, and terrorized wives." I think he's a creep.

Don't forget the "...just a few ounces of pressure" classic, or
"I will be up your way soon [and confront you]" impled threat, or
"I only have to pick up a phone and my authority will have you
picked up!" (which I think is the topper of them all).


So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Steve has almost total fixation with Len's "putz."

Jealousy? :-)

He frequenly used
phrases like "bunk-buddy" "in bed with" when referring to two men.

Oy, veh, such a schlemiel! :-)

[has Stebie been to Temple yet?]

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

I'm still waiting to hear Steve's war stories about his claimed "seven
hostile actions." The Stolen Valor investigators might be interested.

Maybe we could get the producers of "CSI" to do a special episode
on the resolution of all this? Get him on the stainless steel
"bed" and do a Y-cut to check his innards? Or maybe the Home and
Garden TV Channel for a special Lawn Order show? :-)

[I find more entertainment in watching my hard disk defrag...:-) ]

gun poo

From: John Smith on Aug 21, 2:12 pm

Len:

We share the same fondness for stories of fiction, daredevils and men
saving the world with a brass key.

"Fondness" is a bit strong for me... :-)

A GOOD tall tale is fun. Too many tales in one place and you've
got a conclave of coders.

Secret agent types who the gov't has
hidden away in secret and strategic positions on this planet--posing under
the guise of amateur radio operators with hobby permits...

In an "undisclosed location" (next door to Dick Cheney).

Ready and waiting to SAVE THE WORLD from terrorists!!!

Diabolical, don't ya think? Those stupid terrorists probably don't even
have a clue!!!

Machiavellian in concept. :-)

Of course, those terrorists are already stupid, so the whole thing
is just a sequel to "Dumb and Dumber." :-)


Maybe we could get the producers of "CSI" to do a special episode
on the resolution of all this? Get him on the stainless steel
"bed" and do a Y-cut to check his innards? Or maybe the Home and
Garden TV Channel for a special Lawn Order show? :-)

[I find more entertainment in watching my hard disk defrag...:-) ]

Actually, I should stay with HGTV. I can drive over to the Media
Center studios (its on the same street as the Hill Street Cafe)
and talk to Carol Duvall on it. She could have all these cut-ups
on her Arts & Crafts show! Ah, something to do on Monday!

Has possibilities! :-)

vid biz

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 21 Aug 2005 04:39:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
. com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.


Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Thank you for that passive-agressive response; it did much to confirm
my suspicions.

I am sure it did. But then I am beginning to see a pattern too...

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do,

Even more than you might expect.

so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!

I call it like I see it.

Then your vision is in need os assessment by a good opthamologist
of your choice.

Several of my "buds" (with whom I still stay in contact with) from
the MCAS El Toro Aero Club were tracks and armor guys from Pendleton.


....."armor guys"?

Uh huh...Neat thing, military aeroclubs. The person sitting next
to you might be fresh off the yellow foot prints or wear stars on thier
collar.

What are the odds if I say "Who's Frank Gilliland and what did he do
for the Marines?" that they'll shrug their shoulders and say "Frank
who...?!?!"


You never know. Quite a few friends from boot camp ended up at
Pendleton (including one of the Marines currently on active-duty that
I contacted), and I was with 2nd AAV for almost a year. I also used to
hang out with some of the tankers at Stumps. Don't forget that there
weren't too many Marines in garrison after Viet-Nam, and techs were an
even smaller group. If you know a radio tech from tanks or amtraks at
the same time I was in then there's a real possibility he knows me or
I know him (or her, although most WM techs were sent to 4th or 5th
echelon stations). Heck, I even know a couple that got stationed in
Hawaii, the lucky *******s! But it might help to mention that I went
to GRRC at Stumps with the late Cpl. Moses Arnold -- the "class
clown", and truly one of the nicest guys you could ever meet (yeah,
people say that casually about a lot of people but Moses earned it).
To make things even easier for you, would it help if I provided a list
of recruits from my platoon at MCRD? Or the Marines from the BE and
GRRC classes at MCCES? Or from the Comm Platoons at 3/8 or 2nd AAV?
It's not a problem since I remember almost all their names. Most
Marines do, which is why I don't think you will have much of a problem
finding at least one or two that remember me. So feel free to check
with your fellow Marines (assuming, of course, you are telling the
truth).

My I draw your obviously tainted opinon to SSGT selection board of
1983, Precendent number 60A. You may also refer to the Gunnery
Sergeant selection board of 1987. To be truthful, I forgot my
precedent number on that one but it was high due to the overlap with
the previous years promotions.

And if you happen to doubt -my- service in the USMC...(SNIP)

No...but I doubt your understanding of the motto "Semper Fidelis".

I also question your motives in this forum. So far, nothing
relevent, other than catching the back of guys who are archived chronic
liars.

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

And I told you if you'd care to e-mail me directly I'd be glad to
give it to you off-group. I've explained my reasons for doing so.

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:
From: Frank Gilliland on Aug 21, 6:37 am

On 21 Aug 2005 04:39:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 16:31:11 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in

snip
Methinks I have had more effect than you care to admit.

Methinks you are full of sewage about your USMC career.

BBWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Thank you for that passive-agressive response; it did much to confirm
my suspicions.

You are quite right in your suspicions, Frank.

You will note that Robeson, when challenged, will immediately go
into deliberate misdirection with his hyena laughter or the
accusations of some sort of personal perfidy. It's almost SOP
for him.

Nope.

After parsing your posts I got suspicious because you revealed some
details but nothing verifiable -- almost like you were very careful
not to declare anything that could be proven to be a lie. So I emailed
several of my old Marine buds (a couple are still active duty). None
of them remember any avionics tech named Robeson, although two of them
remember a Navy -corpsman- named Robeson that got into trouble for
giving unnecessary prostate exams. You wouldn't be him, would you?

Well, "Frank", you have the same OFFICIAL resources at your
disposal as I do,

Even more than you might expect.

Oviously not.

so I recommend you use them instead, rather than
making foolish statements that land you squarely in the "running my
mouth off without adequate substantiation of my position" behind them!

I call it like I see it.

We all do.

Nope.

Most Lennie posts are obfuscation, deceit and diversion.

snip

BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

More SOP responses from Robeson. He avoids the direct response,
trying to imply that anyone who challenges him is a "fool" or
worse. It's an old tactic in pubs-newsgroup word warfare.

Nope.

It's the "tactic" of truth. Mr Gilliland insinuates that I didn't
serve in the Marines because he allegedly spoke with a couple of "buds"
who are in the Air Wing. He furthermore drops the name of LtCol
Olivere North, and further insinuates he has significant resources at
his disposal that would, seemingly, indicate that I didn't serve.

Mr Gilliland is challenged to use those resources. Anything less,
assuming his suggestions are factual, is bufoonery.

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

Robeson has only ONCE made ANY reference to radio or electronic
equipment name, nomenclature, or familiar name. That one time
was in regards to MARS radio equipments. Eighteen years as an
avionics MOS and he can't name a single piece of equipment by
formal or familiar name? Unheard of in my service days, in my
work, including field trips to the military installations and
being around servicemen IN radio-electronics.

I am still at a loss as to understand how Avionics nomenclatures
are relevent here...

Earlier on, Robeson tried to avoid naming anything by stating
"he couldn't give away any secrets."

Lennie, Lennie, Lennie...

WHY do you persist in perpetuating that lie?

Huge snip.

Robeson couldn't even name the very common all-service small-unit
radio of his early time...HUGE SNIP

No Lennie...

YOU ahve gone on about military radios in the Amateur forum...Then
you claim unwillingness to play your game equates to not "knowing" or
being familiar with same.

Sorry for you.

In much earlier newsgroup postings, Robeson stated he had a
medical discharge to explain not completing a full 20 years,
"due to an accident." Then, after several days, he changed
that to "honorable" claiming it was "changed later" by some
unspecified authority. Medical discharges are given for a
variety of reasons, not always due to physical disabilities.
[that's in Google archives]

Robeson has consistently tried to make fun of others' military
assignments...(SNIP)

Oh LENNIE! Coming from YOU, this is H I L A R I O U S ! ! ! ! ! !
!

There's not a SINGLE PERSON here, save for Gilliland, that you
haven't take slaps at!

(UNSNIP)...claiming his (classic) been in "seven hostile
actions." First of all servicemenbers don't have any choice
of what they do, they go and do whatever they are assigned,
wherever commanded. Only one out of about seven military
land forces, Army or Marines, are IN any combat zone or
actual fighting territory during a "hostile action." Second,
Robeson has NEVER DEFINED HIS "hostile action" in any specifics
as to WHEN and WHERE. He has glossed it over in generalities
"explaining" that he "knows it and need not explain it to us."
He usually remarks that HE has the "documentation" for it but
it remains unseen by the rest of us. He postures and preens,
implies greatness but without details.

No...YOU implied "greatness". I only acknowledged that I had the
misfortune of being in places where we got shot at.

In other words, BS.

Nope. I just don't discuss military duties here.

I know it chaps your hide because making up military tales is all
you have to fall back on.

A classic case of Robeson's word-twisting is his "dishonoring"
charge that I "embellish my military career" by honoring the
19 members of my Signal Battalion killed in a transport crash
on 1 July 1950, three years before I was assigned to that
Battalion. "My" battalion lost 4 more afterwards. I have a
list of all those names, even their ASNs (Army Serial Numbers)
and honor them especially every Memorial Day when I join other
veterans in Memorial Day ceremonies, even for simple things
like putting flags on their gravesites. That sort of word-
twisting has become common to Robeson's postings in here,
an extreme sensitivity (or volatility) to anything negative
against his words spat out in a flurry of personal insults.

Lennie, your name belongs on a "wall of shame" somewhere for your
attempts to manipulate your actual duties with the sacrifices of the
guys who were KIA before you were even inducted.

Take his use of the word "Putz" above his message signatures.
He isn't of a Yiddish ethnic group, isn't a Jew, yet he uses
a Yiddish pejorative freely as if he were.

So...Not being Jewish means I can't call a putz a putz?

Snipped Lennie's whining.

Phrases and euphemisms identified with the USMC are easy to
get in literature and from TV and movies (tons of that
material). Using such things is also easy enough to do...in
generalities. Imposters slip up when confronted with DETAILS
or specific-time/era-use phrases that weren't familiar to the
pharse-user's time. Robeson is big on generalities, very
short on specifics.

Robeson wants to be a Big Name.

Nope. Just an individual.

Any which way he can. He is
military-minded, with any photo of him on the 'web IN UNIFORM
of some sort, green scrubs to CAP-patched flight suit.

"Green scrubs"...?!?!

And please, Lennie, go ahead and tell us all about your experience
with CAP, also...

He is an amateur extra, yet never worked IN military radio comms.

Yep, I did.

He bragged of having a civilian private pilot's license
before joining the Corps yet never became Air Crew in the Corps.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm...there's LOT'S of guys in the Corps who hold a
civilian airman's certificate but aren't aircrew. Did I miss
something? I never say anything that said "those with an FAA
certificate will be aircrew, period".

He uses phrases like "pilot in command" of a general aviation
single-engine aircraft like he was the commander of a 747.

Nope.

I use "pilot-in-command" like the FAA uses it in reference to
anyone exercising thier airman's privileges.

Privileges, by the way, that you don't have.

He gets what he probably wanted all the time - ATTENTION.

Excuse me...?!?!

Remind me why you're all-over a forum for an avocation you have
expressed nothing but vile disrespect and contempt for...?!?!

He manages to cuss out every one of his opponents in any thread...(SNIP)

Actually the profanity is yours, Markies, Toiddies, etc.

(UNSNIP)...turning that thread into a running battle of Stebie FIGHTS
The World...heaping abuse on his "opponents" as if his life
depends on it. Maybe it does.

Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iight.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

On 21 Aug 2005 13:19:18 -0700, wrote in
. com:

snip
Robeson couldn't even name the very common all-service small-unit
radio of his early time, the AN/PRC-25 or PRC-77.


I wouldn't call it "small" -- those puppies get mighty heavy on a
forced march. A "small" radio would be the PRC-68. But the RT-841 (the
RT used for the PRC-77) was the bread and butter of ground radio comm.


snip
In much earlier newsgroup postings, Robeson stated he had a
medical discharge to explain not completing a full 20 years,
"due to an accident." Then, after several days, he changed
that to "honorable" claiming it was "changed later" by some
unspecified authority. Medical discharges are given for a
variety of reasons, not always due to physical disabilities.
[that's in Google archives]


A medical discharge is an administrative, or "general", discharge
"under honorable conditions". They are not changed to "honorable"
unless there were mitigating circumstances that led to the original
discharge being incorrect. But there is no way he would have been
granted retirement benefits without serving the full 20 years. (And
BTW, the rank of Gy.Sgt. is pretty low for retired enlisted.)


Robeson has consistently tried to make fun of others' military
assignments, claiming his (classic) been in "seven hostile
actions."


I can't find that post.


First of all servicemenbers don't have any choice
of what they do, they go and do whatever they are assigned,
wherever commanded.


Upon completion of MOS training, some are allowed to request a
particular duty station at first. Sometimes that request is granted.
After that it's a crap shoot.


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This fierce warrior, self-promoted "seven hostile
action" implied hero can't even swear like a Marine among
other veterans? Highly unlikely. :-)


In all fairness, I knew quite a few Marines that didn't swear.


Phrases and euphemisms identified with the USMC are easy to
get in literature and from TV and movies (tons of that
material).


Very easy. What's missing from his stories are unique experiences.


Using such things is also easy enough to do...in
generalities. Imposters slip up when confronted with DETAILS
or specific-time/era-use phrases that weren't familiar to the
pharse-user's time. Robeson is big on generalities, very
short on specifics.

Robeson wants to be a Big Name. Any which way he can. He is
military-minded, with any photo of him on the 'web IN UNIFORM
of some sort, green scrubs to CAP-patched flight suit. He is
an amateur extra, yet never worked IN military radio comms.
He bragged of having a civilian private pilot's license
before joining the Corps yet never became Air Crew in the Corps.


I got to fly a Huey for about 5 seconds, then the pilot pulled us out
of the spin. I've heard it said that flying a helicopter is like
roller-skating on a greased bowling ball. I agree.










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On 21 Aug 2005 16:28:13 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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....."armor guys"?

Uh huh...Neat thing, military aeroclubs. The person sitting next
to you might be fresh off the yellow foot prints or wear stars on thier
collar.


I think you referred to yellow footprints in an earlier post. That's
interesting since I didn't even remember they were yellow until I
looked in my boot camp 'yearbook'. After that I started remembering
all kinds of things about receiving, like the lines on the floor, the
overwhelming smell of brasso and dura-glit, and blood on the shower
room floor because some of those guys didn't even know how to shave.


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My I draw your obviously tainted opinon to SSGT selection board of
1983, Precendent number 60A. You may also refer to the Gunnery
Sergeant selection board of 1987. To be truthful, I forgot my
precedent number on that one but it was high due to the overlap with
the previous years promotions.


What you can't understand is that we all know the public DOD files
only have the name, rank, service, MOS, and sometimes the hometown.
That's far from a definitive identification since anyone with the same
name can 'steal' that serviceman's identity and make up the rest. Like
when someone writes me a check and I go to their bank to cash it. I
stand there with a camera in my face while they ask me for two pieces
of ID and a thumbprint. One day I asked them how they can verify that
I'm the same Frank Gilliland to whom the check was written (since
there are at least three of us in this town). After a Bush-long pause
the teller finally admitted that he couldn't make that distinction.

Duh.


And if you happen to doubt -my- service in the USMC...(SNIP)

No...but I doubt your understanding of the motto "Semper Fidelis".


Prove you were a Marine and I'll vanish those doubts.


I also question your motives in this forum. So far, nothing
relevent, other than catching the back of guys who are archived chronic
liars.


yada, yada, yada.


BTW, one of them wants to follow up with this because apparently it's
a crime to impersonante a military officer -including- non-coms,
active -or- retired. So what should I tell him, "Gunny"?

Whelp, all I can say is use some of those same OFFICIAL sources to
keep from looking like a fool, Frank.

But I'd also say "hurry" because your credibility is slipping.

I'm not worried about my credibility. On the contrary, -you- have yet
to give a direct answer to any specific question regarding your cruise
in the USMC.

And I told you if you'd care to e-mail me directly I'd be glad to
give it to you off-group. I've explained my reasons for doing so.


And I questioned why your military service is so secret. That's why I
alluded to "Col. Vinson at Ft. Gordon", which you obviously didn't
understand but should have. You can email -me- if you want but don't
expect me to keep anything you say quiet if you fail to verify your
story.






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