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Old August 23rd 05, 01:19 AM
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Carl R. Stevenson wrote:

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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There it is. Proof that "Incentive licensing" has caused hate and
discontent in Ham Radio. I've said it for years. And here it is.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan ... at last we agree!!!!!!

We *MUST* eliminate this "I'm better than you because (pick one of the
following, or any other reason ... "I have a higher class license." or
"I passed an xx wpm Morse test.") - class warfare.


class warfare? Oy!

We are ALL hams ... period. Some are more experienced. They SHOULD be
Elmering (and Elmering doesn't mean "browbeating them into your personal
preferences") the newbies and HELPING them to learn (whatever they want
to) about ham radio, rather than "dising" them and treating them like dirt.


This stuff has GOT to stop!


Sounds good, but I suspect that there would be some sort of pecking
order *regardless* of the situation. Were there only *one* class of ham,
some people would still set themselves up as the "anointed ones" by
virtue of having some top notch radio, antenna, or whatever. It is that
way in every vocation, social group, hobby, sport, or whatever. Kinda
like human nature.

In other words, Morse code could go away entirely, no test, no use,
nothing, and the situation wouldn't be much different.



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Old August 23rd 05, 06:41 PM
 
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Mike Coslo wrote:
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
k.net...


There it is. Proof that "Incentive licensing" has caused hate and
discontent in Ham Radio. I've said it for years. And here it is.


Dan ... at last we agree!!!!!!

We *MUST* eliminate this "I'm better than you because (pick one of the
following, or any other reason ... "I have a higher class license." or
"I passed an xx wpm Morse test.") - class warfare.


class warfare? Oy!

We are ALL hams ... period. Some are more experienced. They SHOULD be
Elmering (and Elmering doesn't mean "browbeating them into your personal
preferences") the newbies and HELPING them to learn (whatever they want
to) about ham radio, rather than "dising" them and treating them like dirt.


This stuff has GOT to stop!


Sounds good, but I suspect that there would be some sort of pecking
order *regardless* of the situation.


It was that way back in those days too. I was there.

Some of the SSB folks thought they were better than the AM gang. Some
folks with Collins looked down on others with less-expensive rigs. Some
of those with Drake looked down on others, yet considered the Collins
folks to be snobs. Some with 1x3 calls looked down on those with 2x3
calls.

Etc. You get the drift. Key word is "some".

Were there only *one* class of ham,
some people would still set themselves up as the "anointed ones" by
virtue of having some top notch radio, antenna, or whatever. It is that
way in every vocation, social group, hobby, sport, or whatever. Kinda
like human nature.


Heck, we've got someone here in rrap who isn't even a ham, yet looks
down on practically all of us! ;-)

In other words, Morse code could go away entirely, no test, no use,
nothing, and the situation wouldn't be much different.


Of course. The lines would be drawn another way. Equipment, modes, etc.


Shall I post the Smith Chart piece again?


73 de Jim, N2EY

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