From: Frank Gilliland on Wed 24 Aug 2005 23:58

wrote in

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Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put
down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others
that he deems are his "opponents."

Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz
fighting his fights for him.

Tweedle Davie is real. Tweedle Buzzy is an anony-mouse...worse,
Buzzy taking the name of a TV show "hero" of yesteryear (or is it
a comic strip character?). I classify Buzzy as about as relevant
as "Brewster Rockit, Space Guy" or "Buzz Lightyear." :-)

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LAPD are
fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry,
and DO do things about those who are pretenders.

So do Marines.

So do all the military branches. Anyone who puts their life on
the line for their country/community feels protective about
their service organization.


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A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged
in 50 years,

While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it
became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and-
transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or
Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the
public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople
like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or
faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly
has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again.

I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-)

My bad.

No problem with me. :-)

Can't help you on later editions. My single DD-214 form is dated
1 Jul 52 and was filled in at Fort Sheridan, IL, in February 1956.
Back then its title was "Report of Separation From the Armed Forces
of the United States."

One of Kerry's DD-214's (filled out 15 Dec. 66) was edition 1 NOV 55,
and states that it "replaces edition of 1 JUL 52". Looks like your
admin clerk took an extra-long Christmas vacation.....;-)

Heh heh heh heh. How about that? :-)

All I know is that mine was typed-in by a cute but robotic E-4
gal on a Saturday at Fort Sheridan. Our processing was pushed
suddenly due to an influx of others expected in from Yurp on
the next Monday (ahead of some kind of schedule they thought
they had).

Unfortunately, some yo-yo will pick that item up as some kind of
"proof" that "I never served" or something vacuous or puerile.
However, the Social Security folks, the Department of the Army,
the National Archives and Records Administration, FBI, IRS,
etc., all accept the fact. :-)

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I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun,
have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the
detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party
who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74...
we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical.

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

I bought one at Fort Sheridan in '56 for $2...was mailed to me
in a week. Impulse buy then. Has been fun to pull out when the
need arises to "prove" something to big-mouths met in person.
Laminated in plastic, it has lasted 49 years in my wallet. :-)

I would rank it FAR higher in value than some "ham radio badge"
(shield)(cop-wannabe style) that some outfit was advertising on
a ham website once. Jay-suss, imagine elevating a hobby license
to police-like status with a BADGE.

THAT kind of raddio kopp ought to be read a "Miranda": "You have
the right to remain silent...anything you do or say will be held
against you...etc"

Sounds like Davie Heil has one of those buzzers...

bit bit

On 25 Aug 2005 16:04:22 -0700, "
wrote in
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Can't help you on later editions. My single DD-214 form is dated
1 Jul 52 and was filled in at Fort Sheridan, IL, in February 1956.
Back then its title was "Report of Separation From the Armed Forces
of the United States."

One of Kerry's DD-214's (filled out 15 Dec. 66) was edition 1 NOV 55,
and states that it "replaces edition of 1 JUL 52". Looks like your
admin clerk took an extra-long Christmas vacation.....;-)

Heh heh heh heh. How about that? :-)

All I know is that mine was typed-in by a cute but robotic E-4
gal on a Saturday at Fort Sheridan. Our processing was pushed
suddenly due to an influx of others expected in from Yurp on
the next Monday (ahead of some kind of schedule they thought
they had).

Unfortunately, some yo-yo will pick that item up as some kind of
"proof" that "I never served" or something vacuous or puerile.


Just be glad you weren't running for President.


However, the Social Security folks, the Department of the Army,
the National Archives and Records Administration, FBI, IRS,
etc., all accept the fact. :-)


Four months through the supply line in 1952 isn't worrisome enough to
require even a mild laxative. It's not like they could have downloaded
the form off the internet and printed it up on an HP. And it's still
common practice to use up old forms before popping open a fresh box of
replacements -- as long as the intended purpose is within the scope of
the old form. But I'm sure -someone- will pitch a bitch.


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I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun,
have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the
detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party
who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74...
we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical.

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

I bought one at Fort Sheridan in '56 for $2...was mailed to me
in a week. Impulse buy then. Has been fun to pull out when the
need arises to "prove" something to big-mouths met in person.
Laminated in plastic, it has lasted 49 years in my wallet. :-)

I would rank it FAR higher in value than some "ham radio badge"
(shield)(cop-wannabe style) that some outfit was advertising on
a ham website once. Jay-suss, imagine elevating a hobby license
to police-like status with a BADGE.


Yeah, some of these hams have real issues. They aren't all hams, but
for some reason they are often attracted to ham radio. A couple years
ago I tried to sell an old 16-ch Regency that covered 137-150 MHz and
would have been a great starter radio or backup for 2m. Yet almost
everyone who responded wanted to know if it could be converted to
cover the police and/or fire bands and none of them would show proof
of licensure when asked. Kinda scary to think that there are so many
nuts out there just waiting for an opportunity to impersonate a cop.







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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 16:04:22 -0700, "
wrote in
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Unfortunately, some yo-yo will pick that item up as some kind of
"proof" that "I never served" or something vacuous or puerile.


Just be glad you weren't running for President.

Anyone runing for that job is certainly in serious need of mental help

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Yeah, some of these hams have real issues. They aren't all hams, but
for some reason they are often attracted to ham radio. A couple years
ago I tried to sell an old 16-ch Regency that covered 137-150 MHz and
would have been a great starter radio or backup for 2m. Yet almost
everyone who responded wanted to know if it could be converted to
cover the police and/or fire bands and none of them would show proof
of licensure when asked. Kinda scary to think that there are so many
nuts out there just waiting for an opportunity to impersonate a cop.


Indeed a lot of cop wannabes out there

From: Frank Gilliland on Thurs 25 Aug 2005 17:27

On 25 Aug 2005 16:04:22 -0700, "
wrote in
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I would rank it FAR higher in value than some "ham radio badge"
(shield)(cop-wannabe style) that some outfit was advertising on
a ham website once. Jay-suss, imagine elevating a hobby license
to police-like status with a BADGE.

Yeah, some of these hams have real issues. They aren't all hams, but
for some reason they are often attracted to ham radio. A couple years
ago I tried to sell an old 16-ch Regency that covered 137-150 MHz and
would have been a great starter radio or backup for 2m. Yet almost
everyone who responded wanted to know if it could be converted to
cover the police and/or fire bands and none of them would show proof
of licensure when asked. Kinda scary to think that there are so many
nuts out there just waiting for an opportunity to impersonate a cop.

Heh heh heh...some of them are in HERE...being Raddio Kopps.
One of them was impersonating an SS officer but I think he's
really an SA fairy...keeps talking about "rear action" stuff.
Weird.

Those that deny being cops are perhaps striving to be lawyers.
Some keep referring to Google and posts that are years and years
old. They want to rehash and work over old, old arguments hoping
to win one in a re-trial. Waste of time. They are a bunch of
sore losers with painful sores from long ago. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
All of the above are morsemen, too! Sort of defeats the myth
that morsemanship "instills good behavior." :-)

Gotta go...the SA wannabe is hollering about "his is bigger
than mine" and "rear action." He wants satisfaction! :-(

Frank of Silliland wrote:

Yet almost
everyone who responded wanted to know if it could be converted to
cover the police and/or fire bands and none of them would show proof
of licensure when asked. Kinda scary to think that there are so many
nuts out there just waiting for an opportunity to impersonate a cop.

Gee, "Frank"...

WE have asked YOU to show "proof of licensure" and you've yet to
ante-up a callsign in ANY radio service.

Steve, K4YZ