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Old August 27th 05, 07:48 PM
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Jim Hampton wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message
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Jim:

You should fully investigate "text-to-speech" and "speech-to-text"; typing
is indeed becoming as extinct as the dodo bird (and cw.)

Frankly, keyboards are probably only as prevalent as they are for much the
same reasons as cw--humans are creatures of habit, the newest generations
probably will kill the keyboard...

John



Hello, John

Well, I guess I've got to admit that I might be getting stumped.

How do I use speach to text to write programs in Visual Basic or C? Can the
program understand the difference between "to", "too", and "two"?

Don't worry as the China will probably do your work for you



The way I figure it, as long as we know how to ask "Would you like
fries with that?" We've had all the job training we need these days! 8^(

For better or worse, I would hazard that 99 people out of 100 would not
even think of programming when they think of keyboards. But then, isn't
programming something they do in India?

Congrats on getting that new job!

- Mike KB3EIA -
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Old August 27th 05, 08:27 PM
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Mike:

Text-to-speech and speech-to-text should be thought of in the same way as
the internet in regards to the pony-express or the US Postal System...

While in the future there will be keyboards, it would make as much sense
to use them as attempting to participate in this newsgroup via us postal
mail--worse, get someone on horseback to deliver your post!

.... some adapt easier than others ...

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:48:50 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

Jim Hampton wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Jim:

You should fully investigate "text-to-speech" and "speech-to-text"; typing
is indeed becoming as extinct as the dodo bird (and cw.)

Frankly, keyboards are probably only as prevalent as they are for much the
same reasons as cw--humans are creatures of habit, the newest generations
probably will kill the keyboard...

John



Hello, John

Well, I guess I've got to admit that I might be getting stumped.

How do I use speach to text to write programs in Visual Basic or C? Can the
program understand the difference between "to", "too", and "two"?

Don't worry as the China will probably do your work for you



The way I figure it, as long as we know how to ask "Would you like
fries with that?" We've had all the job training we need these days! 8^(

For better or worse, I would hazard that 99 people out of 100 would not
even think of programming when they think of keyboards. But then, isn't
programming something they do in India?

Congrats on getting that new job!

- Mike KB3EIA -


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Old August 27th 05, 08:13 PM
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Then the world has come to an end
Long live CW and it will.

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






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Old August 27th 05, 08:52 PM
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:58:28 -0000, "W2DNE" wrote:

If CW is dead....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for
setting up SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm


Answer: For the same reason that, if you search the web long enough,
you might possibly come up with all or part of an operating manual for
an old military spark-gap transmitter - namely that a lot of
information about old military stuff can be found on the Internet.

For example, I followed the link above, only to find myself staring at
part of the instructions for the AN/VRC-45 and AN/VRC-49 radios. Not
unlike the use of CW in US military communications, these two radios
are obsolete, having been replaced by the AN/VRC-93 UHF TACSAT (as in
TACtical SATellite) radios.

John Kasupski, Tonawanda, New York
Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS)
zIRC #monitor Admin

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Old August 27th 05, 09:14 PM
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John:

I entered #monitor though dalnet servers. The channel welcome notice
states it is cross linked with zirc (if there isn't a split or other tech
probs), what is your nick there?

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:52:25 -0400, John Kasupski wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:58:28 -0000, "W2DNE" wrote:

If CW is dead....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for
setting up SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm


Answer: For the same reason that, if you search the web long enough,
you might possibly come up with all or part of an operating manual for
an old military spark-gap transmitter - namely that a lot of
information about old military stuff can be found on the Internet.

For example, I followed the link above, only to find myself staring at
part of the instructions for the AN/VRC-45 and AN/VRC-49 radios. Not
unlike the use of CW in US military communications, these two radios
are obsolete, having been replaced by the AN/VRC-93 UHF TACSAT (as in
TACtical SATellite) radios.

John Kasupski, Tonawanda, New York
Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS)
zIRC #monitor Admin




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Old August 28th 05, 08:33 PM
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:14:02 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

John:

I entered #monitor though dalnet servers. The channel welcome notice
states it is cross linked with zirc (if there isn't a split or other tech
probs), what is your nick there?


Usually KC2HMZ.

The #monitor channel is linked across four networks - dalnet,
StarChat, zirc, and ircnet. The usual tech problem that would cause a
severance of the crosslink would be if one of the relay bots pings
out, or if the server a linkbot is on gets lost in a netsplit.

Otherwise you can join any of the four networks - though if you want
to avail yourself of the NSA logbot you'll need to be on either ircnet
or zirc.

John Kasupski, Tonawanda, New York
Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS)
zIRC #monitor Admin

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Old August 27th 05, 09:22 PM
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John:

From the following:

John_Smith, lexicon says John_Smith, lexicon says: KNY2VS
) was last seen quitting #satcom 4 days
18 hours 53 minutes ago (22.08. 17:23) stating ""th y R .g"" after
spending 1 hour 34 minutes there.: KNY2VS

I take it, KNY2VS is it...

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:52:25 -0400, John Kasupski wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:58:28 -0000, "W2DNE" wrote:

If CW is dead....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for
setting up SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm


Answer: For the same reason that, if you search the web long enough,
you might possibly come up with all or part of an operating manual for
an old military spark-gap transmitter - namely that a lot of
information about old military stuff can be found on the Internet.

For example, I followed the link above, only to find myself staring at
part of the instructions for the AN/VRC-45 and AN/VRC-49 radios. Not
unlike the use of CW in US military communications, these two radios
are obsolete, having been replaced by the AN/VRC-93 UHF TACSAT (as in
TACtical SATellite) radios.

John Kasupski, Tonawanda, New York
Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS)
zIRC #monitor Admin


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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:22:58 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

John:

From the following:

John_Smith, lexicon says John_Smith, lexicon says: KNY2VS
) was last seen quitting #satcom 4 days
18 hours 53 minutes ago (22.08. 17:23) stating ""th y R .g"" after
spending 1 hour 34 minutes there.: KNY2VS

I take it, KNY2VS is it...


On IRCnet, yes.

On zIRC, I usually use KC2HMZ, but also have KNY2VS registered. It
makes a good alternate nick in case I ping out and have to rejoin
under another nick so I can kill my ghost.

John Kasupski, Tonawanda, New York
Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS)
zIRC #monitor Admin

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Old August 27th 05, 10:42 PM
 
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W2DNE wrote:
....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm


This is an amateur radio forum.

For an answer to you question, may I direct you to the United States
Army?

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Old August 27th 05, 11:23 PM
 
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From: W2DNE on Aug 27, 6:58 am

....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...iew/public/479...


Answer: THEY DO NOT for manual radiotelegraphy ("morse code").

FM 24-18 is a basic PRIMER on radio communications, an introductory
text which has been around for at least three decades. The version
approved for public distribution is dated 30 Sep 87, superseding
the one for 13 Dec 84. Much of the equipment mentioned is OBSOLETE
now and has been for decade(s). The AN/GRC-26D, for example, (an
HF station in a hut on the bed of a 2 1/2 ton truck) dates back to
the first half of the 1950s! The AN/PRC-70 manpack HF set went bye-
bye in the 1980s, replaced with the AN/PRC-104 designed by Hughes
Aircraft Ground Division.

There is NO "SINCGARS-V" in the U.S. military. You are confusing
"single-channel" as in one set, one operator, with the SINCGARS
family of SINgle Channel Ground Air Radio System that begins with
the manpack AN/PRC-119 (first operational 1989) and continues on
through two ground/vehicular versions (using same R/T) and two
airborne avionics versions. Just as the AN/PRC-77 replaced the
AN/PRC-25 VHF portable FM transceiver, the frequency-hopping
digitized voice/data (with selectable COMSEC internal) AN/PRC-119
replaced the PRC-77. The PRC-25 and PRC-77 were both used in the
Vietnam War that ended 30 years ago. The SINCGARS family is
perhaps the most produced of any military radio communications set
with 250 Thousand produced and fielded between 1989 and end of
2003 by ITT Fort Wayne, IN, and General Dynamics Ground Division
(now dissolved) in Florida. The PRC-119 is expected to be replaced
by the PRC-150 designed and built by Harris Corporation, NY.

SINCGARS sets, along with nearly every HF-VHF-UHF radio set designed
and built since WW2, have provisions for remote operation through
various interface-control equipments. When remote operation talks
about "CW" they do NOT mean manual radiotelegraphy as is common
in radio amateur parlance. "CW" in the military manual sense is
control over the basic CARRIER transmission. In actual practice
SINCGARS is used in small-unit operations (a few vehicles, squads)
and many may be in the same radio-range area but "separated" (non-
interference operation) by their digital/frequency-hopping option.
SINCGARS sets, manpack through airborne, have NO provision for
connecting any manual "morse code" key or sending any "morse code"
radiotelegraphy signals.

The U.S. military does NOT teach any manual radiotelegraphy skills
for communications purposes. It does teach radiotelegraphy
cognition for ELINT intercept-analysis as part of four MOSs for
Military Intelligence operations at the M.I. School in Fort
Huachuca, AZ.

FM 24-18 is a fairly good introductory handbook on radio for anyone
who wishes to learn basic radio facts and radio wave propagation
along with several types of antennas. It is a free download through
the Army Training and Doctrine Digital Library (in the given link)
and may be copied from military CDs containing Field and Techmical
Manuals (not fully public distribution) through LOGSA (LOGistics
Supply Agency). In particular, the "nevis" (pronounced version of
NVIS or Near Vertical Incidence Skywave) techniques used by U.S.
land forces radio since the 1970s; known colloquially as "cloud
burners" by amateurs.

Manual radiotelegraphy for communications is essentially "dead" for
every other U.S. radio service...except amateur radio. Accept that
and carry on. As you were...





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