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August 31st 05, 09:17 PM

From: on Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:23

Bill Sohl wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:

Why are there written exams with questions on electronics for
those who chose not to build their radios?

Indeed I ask why there are so many question about
electronics on the
tech pool as I try to teach them to my partner.

Same old tired analogy.

It's a valid question, Bill. And I'm not the only
one asking it.

Paranoia loves company...

PLEASE...if you want electronics taken
off the written test, then say so.

I don't. In fact I think there should be *more* in-depth
electronics testing on the exams. And I'll take the new
exams myself if needed.

Hello? Who ya gonna call? Test Busters?

The VEC Question Pool Committee, all licensed radio amateurs,
make up ALL the questions and answers.

Nasty evil FCC doesn't make them up, they only approve the
Pools.

Failing that, your wasting your
time and effort dragging up this tired argument.

It's not me who is bringing it up.

Paranoia NEEDS company?

Look at NCVEC's second proposal. They wanted an entry-level
exam with even less technical content. They were dead-serious.

Nasty old VECs! What do they know? :-)

Even better, look at the "Amateur Radio In The 21st Century"
paper, which was in CQ and also on the 'net. That one says
the future of amateur radio depends on an easier-to-get
entrylevel license. Says there's too much math and theory
in the current Tech (!).

"What evil lurks in the hearts of men...it is the VEC!"

Worse, it proposed to remove *all* regulations questions from
the test for the new entry-level license, and instead just
require a signed statement that the licensee had read and
understood the rules.

Waaaaa! Waaaaa!

Is that acceptable to you, Bill? It's not acceptable to me,
with or without code test!

Run for office at the ARRL! Get a political appointment
as Commissioner at the FCC! Show 'em who's Boss!

Fortunately, FCC denied NCVEC's idea. This time. But I'll bet we
haven't heard the end of it.

Not from Jimmie, Mighty Macho Morseman!

Mount the barricades, the Enemy are approaching!

I also question the real need to memeroize band edges and
even pieces
of the band plan in general pool I am reading now

I actually agree that memorizing band edges is a waste. Far
better to have a schart of the bands, beand edges and
permitted uses and then ask questions which have the
test taker use the chart as a resourse to answer questions.
Band edges are dynamic and change over time.

Better yet, a chart that shows the regs *and* a chart that
shows the current bandplan. ('Bandplan' meaning current
recommendations, not regulations). It's done for RF exposure
already.

"Come with us now to the days of yesteryear, before RF
exposure and NO BANDPLANS!" - intro to "The Lone Stranger" of
the wild, wild east when real men were morsemen, feared
throughout all radioland. "Hi-yo Silverplate!"

but neither of these issues is anoything but a smoke screen
cut

Yup, Jim's smoke screen anyway... :-) :-)

Not a smoke screen - a valid analogy. Ask the Gang of Four at
NCVEC...

Only "four?" :-) Count again, using both hands' fingers...

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