RadioBanter - Stonewalling on WT Docket 05-235?

From: Paul W. Schleck on Sep 5, 6:43 am

In . com "an old friend"

writes:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: Carl R. Stevenson on Aug 30, 5:53 pm

Sometimes you even snap and snarl at those who share your goals, Len.

sometimes he does as is his right. I am sure he will even agree you
have the right to snap and snarl at everyone who disgrees with you
but you missed the point(s) as usaul
Amoug them being
Your snap at everyone, your right but not a good image.
Len does reserve to right to snapp at folks too, event hose he shares
goals with

Len may have the "right" to do a lot of things, but if he truly wants to
"win friends and influence people" in this debate, and leave a personal
legacy other than that of a Usenet "kook," he might want to take stock
of who are his allies and who are his enemies.

Feel free to list them by category... :-)

And even enemies can become allies on some issues.

Old Sicilian saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." :-)

Not really. That's just one of those sayings that is supposed
to show the sayer in some kind of Light of Wisdom. :-)

Recently, Len insisted that he only posts
facts and truth, and challenged me to find examples otherwise.

"Recently?!?" :-)

When I
did, finding several recent errors and subjective interpretations,
rather than acknowledge or rebut them, he chose to change the subject
and accuse me of being a hanging "judge" for daring to criticize.

Tsk. I must have hit a nerve or three. Awful sawwy, Judge.

Len
also seems to feel he is entitled to unlimited public revenge against
those who have slighted him, and will lash out reflexively, and Serdar
Argic style, whenever anyone posts with certain "hot-button" keywords
like Morse Code. Serdar accused anyone who disagreed with him as
"criminal Armenian," even those who were ethnic Japanese. Similarly, I
wonder if invectives like "Macho Morsemen" are aimed at Kim and Dee Dee,
also.

"Serdar Argic?!?" Is that person on the BoD of ARRL? IARU?

I used to know of an Arpad Somlyody, applications engineer at
Burroughs Corporation on Nixie display tubes. Any relation?

When I pointed out areas of agreement, including one example where I was
the only one to side with him in this forum, he replied with, "I don't
give a flying fig about your 'position.'"

That's still true.

I also wonder why most of those that try to defend Len choose to post
anonymously.

You mean like "Commander Buzz Corey of the Space Patrol?" :-)

I have agreed with Len on some issues, and have posted
with my real name.

Well, that's better than "Quitefine" or "Darkguard."

One red flag that someone is being tuned out is the
number of likely sock puppets that start to orbit around him.

Are they all "Lamb Chops?" :-)

"Orbit?" :-) "Puppets?!?" :-)

Indeed you miss out on the fact the Nocoders do disagree amoug
ourselfs, and we are free to to do so, a sign of the greater freedom
espoused by the NoCoders

I'm happy to debate with anyone on any subject, and though I may
disagree, I will treat that person respectfully, even going so far as to
separate behavior from personality.

Then you be the RARE BIRD of this Galaxy, Paul.

This newsgroup is best described as a Din of Inequity.

ANY unmoderated newsgroup is so described... :-)

There's a difference between honest
debate and sniping, insults, and ad-hominem attacks.

And there is a HUGE GAP in the levels of sensitivity among
the Easily Offended in here. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

It's also useful
to clarify and make understandable your position by indicating whom you
may agree with, rather than solipsistically dismissing any worldview
other than your own with, "I don't give a flying fig about your
'position.'"

Careful, Paul, one of "my sock puppets" may attack you... :-)

They might send figs flying your way. Enjoy.

but then you never seem to get the point, and indeed seem to prefer
volumes on evasion rather than answer a few simple questions

Dave K8MN

[I beat my wife in bed the other night, by about five minutes...]

:-)

My comments on this docket are forthcoming. No evasion or avoidance of
simple questions are planned.

Well, Paul, I don't give a Flying Fig about "Serdar Argic" either.

NBC West Coast Hq is just a couple miles away from me. Shall I
call them up on Tuesday and ask if they have any leftover "Flying
Fickle Finger of Fate" statuettes that you could award to someone?
Just asking for Laugh-Ins. :-)

Sock puppet to me? :-)

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On WT Docket 05-235, the ECFS opened it up on 15 July 2005 and
the first individual Comments arrived on 20 July 2005. Actually,
NPRM 05-143 was released on 15 July but was not put into the
ECFS by the FCC until 21 July. See the date stamp on the viewed
NPRM document on the ECFS for proof. There was NO NOTICE of
NPRM 05-143 given in the Federal Register until 31 August 2005.
Do you wish to count the elapsed days between 15 July and 31
August? By "business days" or calendar days, I don't care.
A rather long time between release and official notice, it seems
to me. shrug

Guess who started THIS thread on 30 August 2005? :-)

ABOUT the Federal Register Notice on that NPRM. Now how much
discussion on that subject has gone on? Not a great deal. Most
of this thread's content is a lot of in-fighting between the
"regulars" of this newsgroup...fighting among themselves. :-)

I already commented several times on the FAILURE of timely
notice in the Federal Register as can be seen on the "scorecard"
postings I made on WT Docket 05-235. I even thanked Carl
Stevenson publicly in here for pointing it out first in here.

If you bother to look in Google archives you will see that I've
complained years ago about NCI membership "requirements" in
regards to who can "join." That was all public. Most of the
exchange on that took place in here between myself and Carl.
I don't harbor any "bad feelings" for Carl and support him in
TWO forthcoming elections; I'd vote for him at the IEEE except
my IEEE ballot doesn't allow non-Standards-Committee members
to vote on Members At Large in the Standards Committee. I
can't vote for him on the ARRL because I'm not a member of the
ARRL. I have NO disputes on those. NCI did change their
"membership requirements" to what is currently shown at
www.nocode.org and I thought that was a Good Thing.

Now, as long as we are being up-front on THIS thread, is WT
Docket 05-235 and NPRM 05-143 about the U.S. amateur radio
telegraphy test element? Is it on anything else in amateur
radio regulations? No? Well, I guess it is what you call a
"hot button topic" ey? Would this "Serdar Argic" approve or
disapprove? And why should we care? :-)

Say hello to Abulard Harkonnen and Vorian Atriedes when you
get off-line. Figs are in the approved food groups...