Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Doesn't matter about MODE...all good morsepersons know that
all amateur radio SURVIVES all possible emergencies, floats
on water while the hams walk on water...:-)

I recall your past statements about the commercial communications
infrastructure never totally failing in an emergency. Well, Leonard the
devastation of New Orleans reveals near total collapse of the commercial
communications infrastructure. Hams are there and are producing. The
Feds are rushing communications equipment into place but amateur radio
volunteers are already on the job:


and indeed the article in the washington post (
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...083102656.html
) prove Len correct

text messaging system are there plugging allong with the hams

remainder cut to save BW

On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
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Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.


I guess that means CB radios aren't working either, huh?






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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
.com:

Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.


I guess that means CB radios aren't working either,
huh?

Yeah! They're "a-standin' by to pass that 'ere eee-mer-gen-cee traffic
thar". (Hmmm, I wonder why they aren't callin'?) LOL! j/k


J






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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
.com:

Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.

I guess that means CB radios aren't working either, huh?

I am sure they work fine where they are not otherwise mechanically
damaged.

It's not the tool...It's how you use it...

Steve, K4YZ

On 31 Aug 2005 15:01:12 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
.com:

Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.

I guess that means CB radios aren't working either, huh?

I am sure they work fine where they are not otherwise mechanically
damaged.

It's not the tool...It's how you use it...


Oddly enough, I couldn't agree with you more. But it seems there are
some 'people' that would take the opportunity to toot their own horn
in the midst of a huge and horrible natural disaster. I think some
'people' have their priorities a little screwed up.

You can bet that people are using -whatever- kind of communication is
at their disposal -- and from the way it looks on the news, even radio
is taking a backseat to cardboard signs and spray paint.







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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
.com:

Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.


I guess that means CB radios aren't working either, huh?




If a large area is devestated, one just might need a couple hundred mile
range 24/7. Even battery powered HTs through a repeater can get you 30 to
100 miles total between users. Hf rigs can supply you continuous coverage
24/7 from local to thousands of miles. You just select an appropriate
frequency (ranges of a few decades in frequency may be involved here).

There may be a lot more cbs, but if you can only get 10 or 20 miles and you
keep receiving skip from other stations far away running power ....


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:12:57 GMT, "Jim Hampton"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
.. .
On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
.com:

Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.


I guess that means CB radios aren't working either, huh?




If a large area is devestated, one just might need a couple hundred mile
range 24/7. Even battery powered HTs through a repeater can get you 30 to
100 miles total between users. Hf rigs can supply you continuous coverage
24/7 from local to thousands of miles. You just select an appropriate
frequency (ranges of a few decades in frequency may be involved here).

There may be a lot more cbs, but if you can only get 10 or 20 miles and you
keep receiving skip from other stations far away running power ....


I never knew there was a minimum range for emergency communications.
So how far does a radio wave have to go in order to get this
distinction? A couple hundred miles? More than 10 or 20 miles? Is
there some FCC rule that defines this distance?








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Frank Gilliland wrote:

I never knew there was a minimum range for emergency communications.
So how far does a radio wave have to go in order to get this
distinction? A couple hundred miles? More than 10 or 20 miles? Is
there some FCC rule that defines this distance?

Doesn't matter, cb is limited in it's useful range, not to mention all
the idiots screaming "ten fer thar" and "aaaaaauuuuuudddddddiiiiiioooo".
Name the range you want and ham radio can provide it by using the proper
band.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:21 -0700, Cmdr Buzz corey
wrote in :

Frank Gilliland wrote:

I never knew there was a minimum range for emergency communications.
So how far does a radio wave have to go in order to get this
distinction? A couple hundred miles? More than 10 or 20 miles? Is
there some FCC rule that defines this distance?

Doesn't matter, cb is limited in it's useful range,


And ham radio is limited in it's availability. What's your point?


not to mention all
the idiots screaming "ten fer thar" and "aaaaaauuuuuudddddddiiiiiioooo".


Oh, I'm sure that's happening quite a bit -- hundreds of thousands of
people taking time out from trying to find lost family members, food,
water, and a dry place to sleep, just to whoop it up on the CB.

Idiot.


Name the range you want and ham radio can provide it by using the proper
band.


Name the range and try to find a ham radio.








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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:12:57 GMT, "Jim Hampton"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
.. .
On 31 Aug 2005 11:11:52 -0700, "Bob" wrote in
.com:

Saw this morning a brief mention on Fox News about hams doing health
and welfare emergency traffic for New Orleans. "Only reliable
communications in the area". They showed a few ham transcievers, one
displaying a 70cm band frequency, another HF rig on 20 meters in the
phone subband.

This is the sort of disaster that ham radio handles well. Cell phones
are mostly out, as well as most any other comm system that needs
physical infrastructure to function.


I guess that means CB radios aren't working either, huh?




If a large area is devestated, one just might need a couple hundred mile
range 24/7. Even battery powered HTs through a repeater can get you 30 =
to
100 miles total between users. Hf rigs can supply you continuous covera=
ge
24/7 from local to thousands of miles. You just select an appropriate
frequency (ranges of a few decades in frequency may be involved here).

There may be a lot more cbs, but if you can only get 10 or 20 miles and =
you
keep receiving skip from other stations far away running power ....


I never knew there was a minimum range for emergency communications.
So how far does a radio wave have to go in order to get this
distinction? A couple hundred miles? More than 10 or 20 miles? Is
there some FCC rule that defines this distance?

150 miles is the max legal CB range (a very stupid rule BTW) but in an
emergency anything goes that works









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