I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages to
family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages to
family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI



Ask frankieboy to turn on his SeeBee and tell us all about the disaster
traffic they are handling.

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages
to family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove
it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI



Ask frankieboy to turn on his SeeBee and tell us all about the disaster
traffic they are handling.

This just came over 3965...

On 3965, KB7BSA is with the Baptist feeding unit in Biloxi MS.

She just passed this along after sending out 40 Health and Welfare
messages.....

" Ham radio is all there is for communications. Police, Fire, Rescue,
Emergency Services, all of them using Ham Radio, there is NOTHING ELSE
that works"


Dan/W4NTI

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:15:18 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote in
et:


"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages
to family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove
it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI



Ask frankieboy to turn on his SeeBee and tell us all about the disaster
traffic they are handling.

This just came over 3965...

On 3965, KB7BSA is with the Baptist feeding unit in Biloxi MS.

She just passed this along after sending out 40 Health and Welfare
messages.....

" Ham radio is all there is for communications. Police, Fire, Rescue,
Emergency Services, all of them using Ham Radio, there is NOTHING ELSE
that works"


I've always said that ham radio has it's usefulness in certain
situations. This is most definitely one of those situations. But I
have no doubt whatsoever that every -other- mode of communication that
works, radio or not, is being used to it's fullest limitations.

And for some glory seeking hams to declare themselves and their
service to be the exclusive 'heros de jour' is absolutely repulsive,
especially while the situation continues to erode and people continue
to die.

Let me make this -REAL- clear to you, Dan: It's not about ham radio or
any other radio service. It's about the people that are suffering in
this disaster. So instead of thumping your chest while standing on a
pile of rubble and dead bodies, how about you hero-wannabe hammies
show a little dignity and set aside your self-aggrandizing delusions
for a little while?








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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:15:18 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote in
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"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit
in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing
messages
to family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove
it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI



Ask frankieboy to turn on his SeeBee and tell us all about the disaster
traffic they are handling.

This just came over 3965...

On 3965, KB7BSA is with the Baptist feeding unit in Biloxi MS.

She just passed this along after sending out 40 Health and Welfare
messages.....

" Ham radio is all there is for communications. Police, Fire, Rescue,
Emergency Services, all of them using Ham Radio, there is NOTHING ELSE
that works"


I've always said that ham radio has it's usefulness in certain
situations. This is most definitely one of those situations. But I
have no doubt whatsoever that every -other- mode of communication that
works, radio or not, is being used to it's fullest limitations.

And for some glory seeking hams to declare themselves and their
service to be the exclusive 'heros de jour' is absolutely repulsive,
especially while the situation continues to erode and people continue
to die.

Let me make this -REAL- clear to you, Dan: It's not about ham radio or
any other radio service. It's about the people that are suffering in
this disaster. So instead of thumping your chest while standing on a
pile of rubble and dead bodies, how about you hero-wannabe hammies
show a little dignity and set aside your self-aggrandizing delusions
for a little while?

I'm sorry Frank....I'm too tired to debate your idiotic comments. Ain't no
one thumping chests here.

I have ran several pieces of traffic from the disaster area tonight. Made
the calls and I'm damn proud of Ham Radio. If you don't like it. Gent
bent

Dan/W4NTI







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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 03:08:47 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
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First you wrote:

...Ain't no
one thumping chests here.


Immediately followed by:


I have ran several pieces of traffic from the disaster area tonight. Made
the calls and I'm damn proud of Ham Radio.


Hypocrite.


If you don't like it. Gent
bent


It's morons like you who secretly -wanted- something this bad to
happen just so you could have the opportunity to "step up to the
plate". Yep, all those people are suffering and dying so -you- can
feel good about being a ham -- you -should- be proud.

Get some perspective you sick ****.









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From: Dan/W4NTI on Sep 1, 5:26 pm

I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

"Commercial infrastructure" is defined as anything non-amateur?

Strange, I still see rather "commercial" and "military"
infrastructure radios very much at work on TV news, along
with lots and lots of "infrastructure" personnel.

Flood conditions high enough to inundate "commercial
infrastructure" equipment will ALSO inundate amateur
equipment and render it useless as well.

The relief efforts in Louisiana and Mississippi are being
handled by MANY, MANY different volunteers and MOST of them
do not appear to be or are identified as amateur radio
operators.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

Those networks are operating OUTSIDE the flood regions,
have NOT been inundated with flood waters.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages to
family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Then that young lady is NOT under water and has gotten to a
location that is NOT under water or destroyed (somehow, you
have not specified that transport) and has the help of
an amateur radio station set up for this purpose on DRY land
(some place unspecified).

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

That is excellent service that is provided (partly) by amateur
radio. "Daddy" somehow has gotten the news and that probably
is completed over a telephone circuit...a telephone circuit of
the evil "commercial infrastructure" that was NOT destroyed.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove it.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I've NEVER been "anti-ham." What I HAVE been
against is the morse code test for any amateur radio license.
What I HAVE been against is the braggadoccio of morse code mode
over and above any other mode in effectiveness. What I HAVE
been against is that morse code mode is the "only" mode possible
in emergency communications.

And what I HAVE been against is all you PCTA emotional retards
who think/state/live the notion that U.S. amateur radio is ONLY
about morse code mode, morsemanship, and neglecting the majority
of licensed radio amateurs who do NOT agree with you waving the
ham flag as ONLY yours and ONLY that of the morsemen.

You greatly confuse all of "hamdom" as having YOUR personal
opinion. You don't understand that someone having opinions
contrary to YOURS does NOT act in any "anti-amateur" manner.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan, go to the grill and fork yourself. You're done.

wrote:

Dan, go to the grill and fork yourself. You're done.



He'll find RE-4YZ there. He's done, too.

wrote in message
oups.com...
From: Dan/W4NTI on Sep 1, 5:26 pm

I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

"Commercial infrastructure" is defined as anything non-amateur?

Agreed.

Strange, I still see rather "commercial" and "military"
infrastructure radios very much at work on TV news, along
with lots and lots of "infrastructure" personnel.

Agreed, but there's no doubt that hams are assisting in the overall
process. Such assistance at least lightens the communications
load on the remaining commercial infrastructure.

Flood conditions high enough to inundate "commercial
infrastructure" equipment will ALSO inundate amateur
equipment and render it useless as well.

Maybe, maybe not....depending on the portability of that
equipment and how/where the ham actually has/had it when disastor stuck.

The relief efforts in Louisiana and Mississippi are being
handled by MANY, MANY different volunteers and MOST of them
do not appear to be or are identified as amateur radio
operators.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

Those networks are operating OUTSIDE the flood regions,
have NOT been inundated with flood waters.

But they are delivering messages to and from the flood areas.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages
to
family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Then that young lady is NOT under water and has gotten to a
location that is NOT under water or destroyed (somehow, you
have not specified that transport) and has the help of
an amateur radio station set up for this purpose on DRY land
(some place unspecified).

I must ask... What's the difference? Does
it mean that ham radio isn't providing helpful and needed
additional communications?

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

That is excellent service that is provided (partly) by amateur
radio. "Daddy" somehow has gotten the news and that probably
is completed over a telephone circuit...a telephone circuit of
the evil "commercial infrastructure" that was NOT destroyed.

Again, the fact that hams played a part is all that matters if
the communication between father/family could not have
otherwise been completed.

SNIP

Cheers,
To those hams in the thick of the emergency...well done
and keep up the good work.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
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From: Dan/W4NTI on Sep 1, 5:26 pm

I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

"Commercial infrastructure" is defined as anything non-amateur?

Agreed.

Let me revise that.

If non-amateur includes CD, FRS and GMRS then I agree. If by
amateur Len is only referencing the Amateur Service (Part 97)
then I disagree and would suggest the following.

Commercial Infrastructure is anything other than CB, FRS,
GMRS or Amateur Service.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK