an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
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"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
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Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.

Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english

You are the one that said to this statement:
Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

You replied:

"no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

SC"

YOU are the one who said the document wasn't written by slaveholders,
when anybody with a modicum of education knows differently, Marky.

anyone one with a real education knows that it was written by A slave
Holder, not by a group of them, but I guess that lets you out

Yet, YOU are the one who said it wasn't, not anybody else, Marky. And
trying to use my exact same argument back to me is lame, but you are a
world class fool.


You are the one in desperate need of learning English, child abuser.

As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.

the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders

You are even more stupid then you show on here, Marky, if you think
that... Adams and Franklin were not minor roleplayers, either, stupid.

Minor in American indenpendance no in the writing of the document yes,

No, stupid. You are wrong, as usual.

at Adams is a minor player in that drama according to Adams, Franklin
according to Adams and Jefferson, one the few things Adamas and
jefferson agred on in later year

You are really ****ing stupid, Marky. You need to go back to school,
also.


and none of the other persona mention ( Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman) were slave holders at all

therefore again the document was not written by slaveholders in the
pural

God are you stupid, Marky. What about the authors of the document from
all the Southern Colonies which later became states?

shocking the lack of education displayed

Oh, the irony, Marky.


Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce

yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses

Wrong stupid, as usual.

I am right on target

No, stupid, you missed by a parsec.

"Honus" wrote in message news:Sw03f.37075$q81.35200@trnddc06...

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged. The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats. I could
threaten
people all day long and I "might" get a visit by the cops asking me what
my problem is, but thats about all thats going to happen. You are getting
confused with people who may raise a fist or other object and threatening
to hit them, that, technically is assault. But just making a statement of
threat dont mean squat and never has.

Lord, I just can't help myself.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=3461

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Yes I should have prefaced my statement by "except" the
president, etc. I was talking private citzen to private citizen.

"Honus" wrote in message news:_x03f.41168$HM1.26616@trnddc04...

"Honus" wrote in message
news:Sw03f.37075$q81.35200@trnddc06...

Personally speaking, I think you ought to be able to say what that guy did
and get away with it. But that's just me, and I wasn't on the jury. As for
making a statement of threat, you guys need to research the phrase "true
threat".

Therein lie your answers.

Oh, nuts...here's an article with examples for you. Don't say I never did
you guys any favors.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=556
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Threats made by a "group" that has a long history of violence
against others isnt the same as some john doe citizen making a threat
against another.


J

"an old friend" wrote in message
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Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
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not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act
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Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.

not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law
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Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged.

happens all the time mostly in mob cases

and there are people still in jail for merely threatening reagan as a
joke

people were arested for threatening Mrs Bush on the campiagn trail

The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats.

guess you have never read the hate crimes laws in the nation
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yea I know all about hate "crimes". Please tell me how you
"prove" what someone is thinking and what they were going to do about it.

Case in point...retard

"an old friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

BDK wrote:
In article
.com,
says...

cut
The good old days is right!

and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on
such
bands

BDK



Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the
Liberty
Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers
crying
about
the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old
puckered
up
white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear
them
talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants!

who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of
Ham
radio"

BDK

A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every
discussion
should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old.

Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to
coment on the posts in here as everyone else



Dan/W4NTI

That's the point AOF, you don't.

ah but I do I have the same rights as you do

One day you might grow up and realize that fact, but I certainlly would
not recomend anyone hold thier breath waiting for it

You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal
of the rest of us

Dan/W4NTI

Your so-called rights STOP at my nose.

agreed you got this part right

I have the right not to be annoyed
by the likes of you, child brain, ignorant of basic facts about ham
radio.

but you blow it here

you do not have the right not to be annoyed

you have the right not to read any I or anyone else writes but not to
regulate what we write or wether we write something that annoys you

And too stupid to learn.

you are just being you ignorant self smething you have a right be, if
you are fool enough to choose it

Now go away and suck your thumb.

they you are pusing it I have the same right to be here and post as you
do


Dan/W4NTI

This is when you have a REAL infected cut because you were much of a RETARD
to clean it up. Pus starts oozing out or PUSSING...

The same retard that would misspell PUSHING would allow this to happen.

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
link.net...

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

BDK wrote:
In article
.com,
says...

cut
The good old days is right!

and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on
such
bands

BDK



Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the
Liberty
Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers
crying
about
the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old
puckered
up
white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear
them
talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants!

who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of
Ham
radio"

BDK

A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every
discussion
should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old.

Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to
coment on the posts in here as everyone else



Dan/W4NTI

That's the point AOF, you don't.

ah but I do I have the same rights as you do

One day you might grow up and realize that fact, but I certainlly
would
not recomend anyone hold thier breath waiting for it

You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal
of the rest of us

Dan/W4NTI

Your so-called rights STOP at my nose.

agreed you got this part right

I have the right not to be annoyed
by the likes of you, child brain, ignorant of basic facts about ham
radio.

but you blow it here

you do not have the right not to be annoyed

you have the right not to read any I or anyone else writes but not to
regulate what we write or wether we write something that annoys you

And too stupid to learn.

you are just being you ignorant self smething you have a right be, if
you are fool enough to choose it

Now go away and suck your thumb.

they you are pusing it I have the same right to be here and post as you
do


Dan/W4NTI


Hey group../././.Could someone translate this last attemp at communication
from Markie? Especially the last part.....what the hell is "pussing"
???????

Dan/W4NTI

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
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and none of the other persona mention ( Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman) were slave holders at all

therefore again the document was not written by slaveholders in the
pural

God are you stupid, Marky. What about the authors of the document from
all the Southern Colonies which later became states?

what authors? the Congress adopted the declaration they did not write
the thing
The declaration was written basicaly by Tom Jerfferson with a bit of
input from Adams and Franklin

the Congress asked for and received a bunch of revisions all approved
by Tom, that is editing not writing

cut

Free men are not equal, and equal men are not free. Those who believe in an
artificially enforced equality, therefore, hate the freedom which naturally
proves them to be silly and ignorant, brainwashed little sheep.
Ace - WH2T


"KØHB" wrote in message
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"an_old_friend" wrote


You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal
of the rest of us


The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate
mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a
nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample
of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt.

It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic
equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal"
are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and
that you are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you,
better than you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that
freedom, and therefore I reject the notion of "human equality".

If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt
Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at
http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

73, de Hans, K0HB

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
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and none of the other persona mention ( Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman) were slave holders at all

therefore again the document was not written by slaveholders in the
pural

God are you stupid, Marky. What about the authors of the document from
all the Southern Colonies which later became states?

what authors? the Congress adopted the declaration they did not write
the thing

Oh, stupid Marky? I suppose the ink just jumped onto the parchment
without the use of a quill pen, too.

The declaration was written basicaly by Tom Jerfferson with a bit of
input from Adams and Franklin

"Basically", you are an idiot who doesn't know what the hell you are
talking about. Oh, and his name was Thomas "Jefferson", stupid.

the Congress asked for and received a bunch of revisions all approved
by Tom, that is editing not writing

You wouldn't know the difference anyways, stupid.

cut

Run away, Marky, run away.

Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...


not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.

not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged.

happens all the time mostly in mob cases

and there are people still in jail for merely threatening reagan as a
joke

people were arested for threatening Mrs Bush on the campiagn trail

The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats.

guess you have never read the hate crimes laws in the nation
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yea I know all about hate "crimes". Please tell me how you
"prove" what someone is thinking and what they were going to do about it.

never said I was going to try

shows you are not reading the thread too