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BTW Stevie were watch the news lately about NASA
Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... wrote [snip] The part about "summon elemental forces of the universe" is awesome. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE "sommon" Be sure to light a black candle for me. ----------------------------------------------------------------- And why are you asking me to misspell "summon"? None of the dictionaries that I have on hand show any entry for "sommon". Dee D. Flint, N8UZE You put it in quotations. If you only meant toparaphrase, you should leave them off. |
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KØHB wrote: wrote Ah, yes. You, Jim, and Mike spend the better part of a month dissing belief systems and then you come up with this gem. Hi! You guys are too funny. I think in the USN it was taught as "PFM." Prolly scared the bejeesus out of little Billy Beeper. Isn't that how you guys say that God was invented? Hi! Let me scratch a pentagram on the cover of my transceiver. "Hans the Magi!" Who would've thought it? Be sure to light a black candle for me. After spending the better part of a month dissing religion, you become a witch Ya gotta love it! I go casually trolling and this largemouth bit, and bit, and bit, and bit again, then bit again four more times! I think that MUST be a record for this fisherman! My trolling has power and magic in it! Beep beep de Hans, K0HB Yep. Mike and Dee bought into your magic. Hi! You guys are just too funny. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... wrote [snip] The part about "summon elemental forces of the universe" is awesome. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE "sommon" Be sure to light a black candle for me. ----------------------------------------------------------------- And why are you asking me to misspell "summon"? None of the dictionaries that I have on hand show any entry for "sommon". Dee D. Flint, N8UZE You put it in quotations. If you only meant toparaphrase, you should leave them off. ____________________________________________ As anyone should know, quote marks can be used to designate an exact quote. I was not paraphrasing but quoting the actual phrase used. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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wrote in message oups.com... wrote: From: on Oct 16, 11:02 am K0HB wrote: wrote Amateur radio isn't magical. I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Ah, yes. You, Jim, and Mike spend the better part of a month dissing belief systems and then you come up with this gem. Hi! You guys are too funny. "Magic" is for simple minds or for those all tied up in emotions and cannot comprehend reality beyond human senses. Hans proposed it. Dee and Mike bought it. Funny how they reject conventional belief systems, then get led around by "thier" noses. What else is there to say? None of us said we believe in magic simply that it feels magical. You are the one that is being led around by the nose since you are the one that bought into it. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: on Oct 15, 8:14 am There you go personalizing everything. You're just itching for a fight, aren't you?. Dudly the Imposter is a MIGHTY WARRIOR...on-screen. Off-screen the best he can do is pose in some kind of uniform and pretend to be a great "hero." Any amount of service in any uniform, even sanitation service, would be more than any service ever performed by Leonard H. Anderson in ANY uniform. bet you feel better leting that out of yuur system He has dishonored his Nation, his Branch of Servuice and Unit with his cowardly attempts to place himself beside Men who died in combat for the SOLE PURPOSE of "polishing his brass" in a USENET forum. Leonard H. Anderson is a coward and a liar. Period. Big Snip Your buddy on the liberal coast is the ONLY one here who routinely "rails against" anyone based upon RADIO (ie technical and theoretical) experience. Not true. Is true. Unless we include you. Citation, please. Dudly the Imposter issues his own citations. He makes them up on the spot to suit his personal HATRED of certain others. And here we have Lennie PROVING his liarship. where? looks like the sad truth to me Dudly seems to be the usual east-coastie kind of geographical BIGOT. He wants to call anyone on the west coast of the United States as a "liberal." Once in a while as a "leftist." But you are. Your posts clearly establish it. no he doesn't, he is less of fasist than you Stevie, but then you are over ther with Bennie the Moose Tennessee doesn't have a seacoast at all. Dudly must have ENVY of anyone being on any "coast." I've been on both coasts. I've been on the gulf coast. I've been on the South China Sea coast and the Japanese Pacific coast. And Tennessee DOES have inland waterway ports which serve to seaports. Several of them. Without the hurricaines and "En Nino". More Big Snip However the Chairman and his staff DO have Amateurs on the FCC payroll from whom thye take counsel. Conflict of interest. A few things on the above... First of all, the FCC has "counsel" from LAWYERS since they are a legal regulatory agency of the federal government. The FCC regulates MANY DIFFERENT radio services, ALL the civil radio services in the United States. Better break out the Websters and refresh your memory on what the word "counsel" means, Lennie.. Secondly, I do have some experience in emergency communications, but definitely not as an amateur. While that is irrelevant to this so- called "discussion," Dudly the Imposter is, as usual, WRONG in his personal attacks. What "experience"...?!?! Some 11 meter REACT team in 1965? Loading some sandbags in 1971 doesn't hack it. Cut-and-pastes from from OES websites in order to mount attacks in this forum do not count as "experience". Actually DOING IT counts as "experience". Third, by definition of LAW, an amateur radio license grant covers BOTH operator AND station. Uh huh. Something you don't have. so? Fourth, "operating" any radio is just operating it. Dudly's interpretation refers only to the use of on-off keying morse code as "operation." Such morse code use is found only in the AMATEUR service and a very few vessels in Maritime Radio Service. Who's Dudly? you are Dudly do nothing Yet another Leonard H. Anderson lie. absolutely correct Morse code is only used in the ARS and very few vessels in the MRS Again. Fifth, expressing an OPINION on radio regulations is NOT any pretense of being an "authority." It is just expression of an OPINION. Dudly the Imposter has NO "authority" on radio regulations. Neither do any of the current communicators in this newsgroup. Who's Dudly, and what is he an imposter of? you are you are an imposter of being human for one As for YOU and your OPINION in this forum, YOU have stated that your SOLE purpose in this forum was to see to the removal of the Morse Code test requirement for an Amateur Radio license. so? that was turee when he stated I am sure, It may still be true That statement in and of itself establishes your deceitfulness just by the "body count" of your other-than-Morse-related posts...And ESPECIALLY by the personal attack/slander posts you've set in motion. how exactly? Sixth, Jim Haney, elected president of the ARRL, has been IN this newsgroup some years ago, but only for a short while. I advised him in private e-mail that this would lead to trouble within the newsgroup from others who were not happy with ARRL policies...and that would create a bad image of the ARRL as a result of flak from those that (like Dudly) love to personally insult anyone. The only trouble would come form you, Lennie. not really This is a proven fact. gee I guess stevie memory is REALLYYY bad Seventh, the full organization of the FCC is explained on their website, including all of the higher staff positions of Bureaus and Offices and Working Groups. To reiterate, the FCC is not concerned solely with amateur radio since their charter by LAW is to regulate the ENTIRETY of civil radio in the United States. What's to "reiterate"...?!?! He's nothing of the sort. Your adaptation of his diversion about how "we" allegedly "diss" him along some ill-perceived lines of how radios work or RF propagates is assinine. Not true. Lie #4. Is true. And I can see you're back in form. Myself and others have "called" Lennie based upon NUMEROUS errors as they pertain to Amateur Radio policy and practice. Everyone makes mistakes. Even you as, I have pointed out so many times before. The "makes numerous errors" charge is another FALSE one, but often used in newsgroups (even way back before USENET existed and all there was was the original ARPANET) to color an opponents' posts. Not "false". Absolutely true. he just dares to disgree with you have you called Len a Homosexual yet BTW? We can start out with your "the ARRL is dishonest" rants. More than likely the reason for your "advice" to Jim Haney to rethink participating in RRAP. We can then move on to numerous regulatory errors you've made, ie: the "radio service for recreational purpsoes only"...We STILL don't have any references from you substantiating THAT one... Your "ham radio is just for hobby communications" one has been disproven over and over and over and...... Of course there are many, MANY "off topic" errors you've made on non-Amateur Radio related subjects. but of course you are allowed to make all the attacks and off topic post you like The "numerous errors" derive from certain individuals using THEIR personal preferences as THE judgemental point...any deviation from that personal preference is considered "wrong."...(SNIP) Nope. A deviation from FACTS gets your stuff labelled "wrong". more stevie lies any varaince from your view gets one labels as a lie A typical one is some kind of "fact" that morse code is supposed to be "basic to the knowledge of any radio amateur." In itself that is false insofar as operating any radio communication device of any radio service, grounded in personal preferences. The morsemen try to "legalize" that by playing barracks lawyer in the newsgroup and showing the license test requirements as their "proof." Whoa! Lennie accusing OTHERS of being "barracks lawyers". Dudly the Imposter has never "pertained to amateur radio policy and practice" but only repeated a few morse myths and posted many news items (which he did not participate in nor did he report as any kind of journalist). Who's Dudly? Dudly has not been able to categorize subjects, cannot properly use all of the words he thinks are 'necessary' (such as "venue" or "licensure" lately, confusing their application in other fields far removed from radio). With the exception of the "nomenclature" (a favorite "See Mom! I know big words!" word of Lennie's...) of specific devices, words are words. "venue" and "licensure" can both be used in THIS forum as well as any other where they may be appropriate. Lennie's lame diversion on the use of some words is laughable. Dudly has NO ("zero-point-zero") experience in ANY radio communication (other than perhaps CB) before 1970 and thus - by his own standards - cannot possibly express any sort of qualified opinion of amateur radio operation before then. Who's Dudly? And who said no one can comment on radio before 1970? gee, Lennie...YOU are the one ALWAYS claiming that others stretch their limits by discussing ANYthing that occured since you were born, whether or not you played a part in it then or not...But let anyone ELSE comment, and it's yet another rant from you.... You and he are the ONLY ones suggesting that the theory of electronics or radio wave propagation are issues here. You are the one suggesting it. Len and I are the ones pointing it out. I'm just pointing out the HOLES in Dudly's "reasoning" and the personal insults he continually hurls at certain individuals he obsessively HATES. Who's Dudly? And so far, you've not pointed out any holes except in your own stories, Lennie. Lastly, the original argument was about contributions that Amatuers made during WW2. All of the references I made were to electronics-related fields for which AMATEURS were SPECIFCIALLY sought and recruited due to thier already-demonstrated competency or skill in radiocommunications. Hmmmm? There's that damned one way valve again. Amateurs can jump in and fill military and commercial radio roles, but commercial and military radio Ops can have absolutely NO knowledge of amateur comms! Hi, hi! Talk about an Iron Curtain! Your brain is on "diode." Nope. Where did I say that, Brian? Then tell us how it works, again. Brian, do not expect the impossible. Why not? He thinks that "admiring" liars and deceivers is an appropriate character attribute. Dudly the Imposter has NO existance prior to 1955. Who's Dudly? He cannot possibly "know" anything of World War 2 by personal experience. Of course not. But then YOU presume to lecture us on WW2-era programs despite the fact that you had not even reached puberty by then. All his input comes from AMATEUR RADIO literature. Why do you INSIST on making comments that are so blatantly dishonest, Lennie? Such amateur radio literature is colored to favor the wish-fulfillment of radio amateurs. Actually, the much wider field of electronics has considerable REAL history of who did what for whom. None of which includes the name "Leonard H. Anderson". No one, myself included, ever stated that thier licensure was the end-all or sole reason for thier employment or service. Steve, K4YZ Cronyism and Nepotism are as good reasons as any. You could do worse by having someone who actually knows something about RF making comments on the ARS. What does knowing ANYthing about "RF" have to do with knowing about the Amateur Radio service? The FCC tests us on knowledge of RF for "licensure." Take it up with them. Apparently Dudly the Imposter does NOT know anything about "radio" or the propagation of electromagnetic radiation! Or he has forgotten anything to do with RF on his amateur radio license test. Who's Dudly? The Volunteer Examiner Coordinators' Question Pool Committee generates the questions and answers for the amateur radio license test. The FCC either approves or disapproves those questions and answers. Testing of radio amateurs for their licenses is done almost entirely by the Volunteer Examiner Coordinator groups (the FCC can demand certain individuals to be tested by the FCC in certain dispute cases...that is also the LAW). Uh huh. I've been a VE almost since the program's inception, Lennie... Please remind us of how long YOU have been a VE...?!?! The FCC does NOT use the term "licensure" in regards to amateur radio licenses or the licensing process. That term is used in some civil governments for licensing in other fields of activity. Now Lennie the Moderator chooses our words for us. I wasn't aware that we could only use words that appear in FCC publications, Lennie... Can you please show me where that rule is...?!?! Dudly may think he is "highbrow" or an "authority" if he uses the word "licensure." Who's Dudly? And you need to open a Websters once in a while, Lennie. You'd be amazed at all the enat words in there. I worked with many engineers in 2000. About a third of them were Amateur licensees. The rest weren't. They were excellent in thier fields. But they knew nothing of Amateur Radio. Holy Cow! A third of the engineers were amateur radio operators but knew nothing of Amateur Radio? Were they RF engineers? Dudly the Imposter admitted he worked as a PURCHASING AGENT for a set-top-box manufacturer. Who's Dudly? I, on the otherhand, worked for a research and development company that was co-located with ANTEC in Duluth, GA. My only "affiliation" with them was use of thier server for our Internet connections and e-mail servers. We didn't manufacture anything. And it was for longer than the "six months" that Lennie has also gotten wrong...repeatedly. Purchasing Agents do NOT do any sort of "design" work nor do they do any testing of the final product, whatever that may be. Purchasing Agents are the equivalent of technical bookkeepers and form-filler-outers and their "communications knowledge" is limited to using a telephone. Wrong. Again. Dudly has "zero-point-zero" experience in electronics engineering of any kind, "zero-point-zero" experience as a "bench top technician" (in the industry). He has NO baseline for judgement other than continually being obsessed with insulting others from his obsessive HATRED. Who's Dudly? And sorry, Lennie, but I DO have "bench top technician" experience. Lennie's "knowledge" of "Amateur Radio" comes from having used an Amateur Radio magazine to get his "writings" into print and from his flailing's-about in this forum. It's too bad that you are allowed to continue to denigrate a fine amateur radio builders publication merely to discredit Len's articles that were contained within it's covers. Dudly the Imposter will insult anyone if he can make "message points" and partially soothe his obsessive HATRED of some in this newsgroup. [that is continually on display in here] Who's Dudly? And what are these "message points" you continually make reference to? I could list the Editors in Chief of Ham Radio magazine and describe much of its 22-year independent existance as an amateur radio technical publication. Suffice to say that all 22 years of articles in it are on a three-CD set available from CQ or the ARRL bookstores for $150 (shipping charges extra). Yes, they are. And Leonard H. Anderson does NOT appear in all 22 years of it. Nor were any of his articles IN it ever of much importance. Not a single reference can be found that ever footnoted an LHA article. Not one. HR is still considered the "top" of the technical periodicals for amateur radio worldwide (the RSGB's "Radio Communication" magazine perhaps a close second). HR, like CQ and 73, never had the backing of an entire membership organization to assure it of continued existance (as QST does) and they managed to exist for 22 years solely on income from advertising sales. My hat is off and a salute given to Jim Fisk (SK), Alf Wilson, Rich Rosen, and Terry Northrup, wherever they are now, for editorial leadership throughout those 22 years. Too bad they made the decision to get you on board, Lennie...Things went "toes-up" from there on out... Tsk, I've written for other electronics magazines and have had the pleasure of being acquainted with radio amateurs since 1947...among them Gene Hubbell (the first H of H&H Electronics in Rockford, IL, now SK), Captain William P. Boss, Officer in Charge of ADA Transmitters (1953-1954), Sergeant First Class Don Ross (NCOIC at ADA Transmitters 1954-1956, holder of an Amateur Extra as well as both First Telegraph and First Phone Commercial licenses), Eugene Rosenbaum (retired from the FAA and living in Long Island, NY), Allan Walston (W6MJN, best man at my wedding and co-worker in the RCA Cube Farm), James Hall (KD6JG, retired and on the RCA network from near Grass Valley, CA, on Saturdays), and a whole bunch of other good people that I've known and/or worked with over the last 58 years. I am reminded of the guy who defends his racist behaviour by citing his personal acquaintence with "persons of color" when I read this. Lennie "knew" some people in the same way a kid gets autographs. "Mister Mister! Can I get my picture taken with you...?!?!" It doesn't require personal acquaintenship to "know about amateur radio" since nothing of it is either "secret" or "sensitive" or "to be kept within the confines of a fraternal order." United States amateur radio is NOT a guild, union, or trade craft that takes some kind of special learned-over-many-years experience, nor is it some "national service" organization vital to the nation. It is a fun hobby, an activity done for personal pleasure but one that requires federal regulation due to the nature of EM propagation. Some want it to be MUCH MORE than what it is in order to fulfill some kind of daydream they have to show their personal greatness. shrug It IS "MUCH MORE"... And THANKFULLY we do not have you in it's ranks. Best of Luck. For what? Pulling the rug out from underneath you and Lennie? That didn't need luck...You make it all too easy. You are truly delusional. Dudly the Imposter is a delusional sociopath with an unfulfilled ego. That manifests itself as an obssessive hatred of certain individuals who will not suck up to him and his opinions. Tsk. Who's Dudly? Judging by the rest of the paragraph, I'd have to say it was Leonard H. Anderson. Let's see.... Lennie pretended to have been "part of the team" in Korea...(3 years before he enlisted...) Lennie presuemed to tell us about "serving under the threat of the Soviet Bear bomber" He's regaled us with stories of what it's like to be on the receiving end of artillery fire. (Lennie was a rear-area radio mechanic in post-war Japan..that's post KOREAN war Japan...) He's the resident expert on at least a dozen emergency communications programs despite not actually participating in ANY of them. He's presumed to render diagnosis on a wide range of mental and physical afflictions despite not even having been an EMT, let alone a physician or nurse. He's tried to tell us how various volunteer organizations, again one's he's not a memeber of, fit into the "bigger scheme" of things. He's presumed to "demonstrate" his aerial navigation skills despite being a non-soloed student pilot sometime in the late 50's or early 60's. He cannot "discuss", only insult others who disagree with him. This will continue until he gets some professional help for his mental affliction. Yep! I was right! Lennie Anderson IS "Dudly"!~ Steve, K4YZ |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: It is a fun hobby, an activity done for personal pleasure but one that requires federal regulation due to the nature of EM propagation. Some want it to be MUCH MORE than what it is in order to fulfill some kind of daydream they have to show their personal greatness. shrug And often it is MUCH MORE. Yep. Often it is higher class hams dissing lower class hams. As usual, ham radio operators help sustain wide-ranging relief efforts True enough. But those efforts must obey the same laws of physics that the other radio services obey. Amateur radio isn't magical. Morse code isn't magical, mystical, nor mythical. So the "lower class" doesn't "diss" those with a higher class license? Personally I think that must stop, from BOTH ends of the license structure. so when you going to stop? And your right, Ham nor Morse is not magical, mystical, nor mythical. But Morse DOES WORK and so does Amateur Radio Emergency Communications. End of Discussion. but how well does it work? what does it acheieve as opposed to what it could do you are showing your true colors nothing may be questioed or discussed without accept your ground rules in adnavnce Dan/W4NTI |
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Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... wrote [snip] The part about "summon elemental forces of the universe" is awesome. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE "sommon" Be sure to light a black candle for me. ----------------------------------------------------------------- And why are you asking me to misspell "summon"? None of the dictionaries that I have on hand show any entry for "sommon". Dee D. Flint, N8UZE You put it in quotations. If you only meant toparaphrase, you should leave them off. ____________________________________________ As anyone should know, quote marks can be used to designate an exact quote. I was not paraphrasing but quoting the actual phrase used. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Then you should include Hans' exact, if not correct, spelling. |
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Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message oups.com... wrote: From: on Oct 16, 11:02 am K0HB wrote: wrote Amateur radio isn't magical. I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Ah, yes. You, Jim, and Mike spend the better part of a month dissing belief systems and then you come up with this gem. Hi! You guys are too funny. "Magic" is for simple minds or for those all tied up in emotions and cannot comprehend reality beyond human senses. Hans proposed it. Dee and Mike bought it. Funny how they reject conventional belief systems, then get led around by "thier" noses. What else is there to say? None of us said we believe in magic simply that it feels magical. You are the one that is being led around by the nose since you are the one that bought into it. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Hi! Do you really enjoy amateur radio? |
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