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wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: AKA Brian Q. Burp wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: AKA Brian Q. Burp wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: As usual, ham radio operators help sustain wide-ranging relief efforts True enough. But those efforts must obey the same laws of physics that the other radio services obey. Amateur radio isn't magical. Morse code isn't magical, mystical, nor mythical. But ham radio often gets the job done when others can't. Can't? Try "Not Authorized." Brian Burp, your are as dumb and stupid as lenneiboy, 2test wogie, king of the chicken band steve, an_old_idiot and the wannabe next k1man toddiepoo all put together. Why would you say such things? lack of any ability to remember and the fact he can't keep any story straight |
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"Mike Coslo" wrote If we were to claim that electromagnetics were so complex that it was not possible for them to exist unless God made them that way - now that would be a belief system. No, that would be superstition. (Is superstition a belief system, or is it simply uneducated stupidity?) Of all the thousands of gods out there to believe in, I believe in only one less than Brain does. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB -- Most Reverend Minister of the Codes of Z and Q |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: K4YZ wrote: None of us "rail against" persons with commercial or military experience BECAUSE of that experience, Brian... Not true. Is true. Who else in this forum with "commercial or military" communications experience rants on-and-on like Lennie? We DO "rail against" people who have NO experience in AMATEUR RADIO who then come to an Amateur Radio forum and presume to tell us how we should be "doing" things. He doesn't "presume." He does so. He doesn't "tell" me anything! There you go personalizing everything. You're just itching for a fight, aren't you?. With you or Lennie? Sheesh. Not much of a challenge there. You appear to be challenged trying to make up your mind. Your buddy on the liberal coast is the ONLY one here who routinely "rails against" anyone based upon RADIO (ie technical and theoretical) experience. Not true. Is true. Unless we include you. Citation, please. Wade through about a ton of LennieRant's from the last seven years, Brain. They are prolific. At least Len's posting tend to follow the thread. It's even more difficult wading through your rants because of your predeliction to generate new threads. Period. Longhand punctuation? His attacks on me based upon having been an Armed Forces Avionics Tech and Jim, N2EY, for his various projects are point-in-case. And you presume to tell Len how he should be doing things. Nope. I have not once suggested how he conduct his "professional" career. Hi, hi! You deny that he has had a "professional" career. No, I've not. I've stated that I doubt that his career is all that his stories make him out to be. What do his stories make him out to be? What do your stories make you out to be? Kinda like your "There I was in Somalia..." stuff. Yep. There I was and didn't see you. Didn't see you in Korea, either. Nor the Philippine Islands, nor Saudi Arabia. Where were you again? You won't find a single posting by me in any "professional radio" forum", Brian. You are so unprofessional that you wouldn't know where to find one. Uh huh...WHO is "personalizing" this, Brain? Merely an impression that I picked up from your postings. Yet Lennie, without one day's bit of experience in practical Amateur Radio, persumes to know what's good for us. Funny. That's just what the FCC does. Nope. Comparing Lennie to the FCC is like comparing a mob hitman to a Sheriff's Deputy. I'm sure that you local Sheriff will be happy to hear you say so. No one doubts that Lennie knows how a radio works or that he was an adequate bench technician. Not true. How many lies will you rack up in this single post? Is true. I've said it before, and I said it right there. What you say from one day to the next is inconsistant and suspect. Nope. But it obviously makes you warm and fuzzy to promulgate such lies. Of course lying is easy for you. Len knows more about amateur radio than Chairman Powell did. Len knows more about radio than your ham-engineer colleagues that you mentioned below. However he has, to this date, zero-point-zero hours of experience as a licensed Radio Amateur. Nor does the Chairman of the FCC. The Chairman of the FCC is not in this forum, now is he? Nor is Mr. Haney. And I do mind where some "experienced" amateurs are trying to point the ARS. Mr Haney DOES have tons of experience in Amateur Radio. Weak diversion, Brain. Try again? Diversion? Your position is that Len should have no say WRT amateur radio because he is a non-amateur. I point out that there are some real-live amateur that I disagree with. Why must you take exception to everthing that I might say? He is not now nor ever has been a radio OPERATOR as it pertains to Amateur Radio practice. He has zero-point-zero hours of experience in emergency communications. His list ot "zeros" is lengthy, yet he pretends to be an authority on Amateur Radio policies and/or practices. Ditto the Chaiman of the FCC and his numerous staffers. Soon, he's going to "presume" to tell you how it is, both on policy and practice. And they are not in this forum, are they? However the Chairman and his staff DO have Amateurs on the FCC payroll from whom they take counsel. Conflict of interest. WHAT conflict of interest? It's no more a "conflict of interest" to have Amateurs on the FCC payroll and providing counsel about Amatuer issues than it is to have any OTHER service represented. Kind of self-serving, isn't it? Like making laws that benefits one's portfolio. Perhaps they should relinquish "thier" licenses while in the employment of the FCC, and retest two years after they retire or leave? He's nothing of the sort. Your adaptation of his diversion about how "we" allegedly "diss" him along some ill-perceived lines of how radios work or RF propagates is assinine. Not true. Lie #4. Is true. And I can see you're back in form. Myself and others have "called" Lennie based upon NUMEROUS errors as they pertain to Amateur Radio policy and practice. Everyone makes mistakes. Even you as, I have pointed out so many times before. But I admit mine. Rarely. Even as I point them out. Lennie's several years behind. You're a close second. Merely a thorn in your side. How you hate being caught in your lies. You and he are the ONLY ones suggesting that the theory of electronics or radio wave propagation are issues here. You are the one suggesting it...(SNIP) No, I am not. Hi! (UNSNIP).....Len and I are the ones pointing it out. Then we have you in yet another mistruth, Brain. I have N E V E R suggested that there is one iota of difference in theory, technology OR propagation. If you insist on suggesting otherwise, you are wantonly lying. You've continued to say that Len knows nothing of amateur radio, but now you say that he does know theory, technology, AND propagation. Would you mind tallying up the number of question in the Amateur Radio Question Pools that pertain to theory, technology, AND propagation? Lastly, the original argument was about contributions that Amatuers made during WW2. All of the references I made were to electronics-related fields for which AMATEURS were SPECIFCIALLY sought and recruited due to thier already-demonstrated competency or skill in radiocommunications. Hmmmm? There's that damned one way valve again. Amateurs can jump in and fill military and commercial radio roles, but commercial and military radio Ops can have absolutely NO knowledge of amateur comms! Hi, hi! Talk about an Iron Curtain! Your brain is on "diode." Nope. Where did I say that, Brian? Then tell us how it works, again. How "what" works, Brain? That amateur radio operators can magically step into military and commercial radio roles (as claimed in WWII), yet a commercial or military radio OP knows nothing of amateur radio. No one, myself included, ever stated that thier licensure was the end-all or sole reason for thier employment or service. Steve, K4YZ Cronyism and Nepotism are as good reasons as any. You could do worse by having someone who actually knows something about RF making comments on the ARS. What does knowing ANYthing about "RF" have to do with knowing about the Amateur Radio service? The FCC tests us on knowledge of RF for "licensure." Take it up with them. And, just as Lennie the Liar, blindly skip over the OTHER parts of the exam and weakly try to slip in yet another diversion. lame...really lame. Poor Steve. Gets caught in a logic trap and cries foul. I worked with many engineers in 2000. About a third of them were Amateur licensees. The rest weren't. They were excellent in thier fields. But they knew nothing of Amateur Radio. Holy Cow! A third of the engineers were amateur radio operators but knew nothing of Amateur Radio? Were they RF engineers? Yep. Did they mentor YOU? Lennie's "knowledge" of "Amateur Radio" comes from having used an Amateur Radio magazine to get his "writings" into print and from his flailing's-about in this forum. It's too bad that you are allowed to continue to denigrate a fine amateur radio builders publication merely to discredit Len's articles that were contained within it's covers. Where, Brain, was ONE WORD of "denigration" of the MAGAZINE...?!?! You make it appear as if the Editors of Ham Radio were duped into running Len's unworthy writings. You did so just now by using the word "used," and previously by incessantly using the word, "defunct." Thorn. Side. Best of Luck. For what? Pulling the rug out from underneath you and Lennie? That didn't need luck...You make it all too easy. You are truly delusional. There you go calling the pot black again, Oh Parroting One. You have a black heart and a black pot. Kinda like your accusations of me "denigrating" a "fine amateur radio buildrs publication. "builders" Substantiated accusations. You might want to fold this hand instead of getting your nose rubbed in it some more. |
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"Mike Coslo" wrote If we were to claim that electromagnetics were so complex that it was not possible for them to exist unless God made them that way - now that would be a belief system. No, that would be superstition. Religion *is* superstition IMO Hans. So I kinda don't disagree with you. (Is superstition a belief system, or is it simply uneducated stupidity?) Yes. Of all the thousands of gods out there to believe in, I believe in only one less than Brain does. - Sounds efficient to me. - Mike KB3EIA - And Jesus was *still* a very cool dude. |
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Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote Amateur radio isn't magical. I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoyAmateur Radio. Of course, you won't see a question concerning magic or metaphysics on the test you take to obtain your license, but in your heart you will come to believe in that powerful, intangible force. rest of an awesome post snipped Excellent, Hans, simply excellent! - Mike KB3EIA - Un-friggin-beleivable! After spending the better part of a month dissing religion, you become a witch. Almost as unbelievable that you derive that we are wiccans from our fascination in what radio does at times. Gosh, golly. Where DO I come up with this stuff? "We hardly think twice when we use our equipment to sommon the elemental forces of the universe..." "I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio." "Excellent, Hans, simply excellent!" Radio isn't going to save our soul, and it isn't going to impose our will on the world. Do you think that anything is going to save your soul? Do you have a soul? It is just exceptionally cool, and sometimes some interesting and strange things happen there. "Jesus was one cool dude" and "sometimes some interesting and strange things happen" in his presence. Had a guy who used to work for me who thought that participating in a discussion was to zone out for most of the time, not paying any particular attention, then jump on how I (or others in the conversation) pronounced a word, or some other trivial thing. - Mike KB3EIA - Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote. Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on topic and be rational. Thanks. |
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wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: cut Had a guy who used to work for me who thought that participating in a discussion was to zone out for most of the time, not paying any particular attention, then jump on how I (or others in the conversation) pronounced a word, or some other trivial thing. - Mike KB3EIA - Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote. Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on topic and be rational. Thanks. it is SOP around here esp when you don't have any facts to use |
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an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. |
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KØHB wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote If we were to claim that electromagnetics were so complex that it was not possible for them to exist unless God made them that way - now that would be a belief system. No, that would be superstition. (Is superstition a belief system, or is it simply uneducated stupidity?) Of all the thousands of gods out there to believe in, I believe in only one less than Brain does. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB -- Most Reverend Minister of the Codes of Z and Q I merely question your, Jim's, and Mike's exuberance in questioning others faith in God. Why do it? |
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wrote I merely question your, Jim's, and Mike's exuberance in questioning others faith in God. Why do it? I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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wrote I merely question your, Jim's, and Mike's exuberance in questioning others faith in God. Why do it? I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you. Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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wrote in message ups.com... an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. No, I simply make every effort not to get involved in the back and forth arguments that many engage in. No one is going to change any one else's opinions and since the discussions far too often deteriorate into pointless bickering and name calling, I choose not to participate in such. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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nobodys_old_friend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, she puts me in mind of Steve back when he arrived and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. me too I am just giving her sight onseen the benifit of the doubt (what little doubt I have "sight UNseen" "benefit" So what "benefit" is it that YOU think you have to grant, Mark? I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. you may have a point there we shall see likely as not This is funny... Brain suggesting others lack logic... Sheesh.... Steve, K4YZ |
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Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message ups.com... an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. No, I simply make every effort not to get involved in the back and forth arguments that many engage in. No one is going to change any one else's opinions and since the discussions far too often deteriorate into pointless bickering and name calling, I choose not to participate in such. must realy limit your posting then Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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K4YZ wrote: nobodys_old_friend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, she puts me in mind of Steve back when he arrived and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. me too I am just giving her sight onseen the benifit of the doubt (what little doubt I have "sight UNseen" "benefit" So what "benefit" is it that YOU think you have to grant, Mark? benifit of the doubt as is obviouss to anyone with a working brain that read the sentence of course that let you out Stevie I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. you may have a point there we shall see likely as not This is funny... your sense of humor needs work, but that is not a new statement Brain suggesting others lack logic... Stevie you don't know the meaning of the word Sheesh.... Steve, K4YZ |
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stole_from_an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys_old_friend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, she puts me in mind of Steve back when he arrived and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. me too I am just giving her sight onseen the benifit of the doubt (what little doubt I have "sight UNseen" "benefit" So what "benefit" is it that YOU think you have to grant, Mark? benifit of the doubt as is obviouss to anyone with a working brain that read the sentence "Benefit" "obvious" Read what? The SENTENCE? Is THAT what that was? Hard to tell, really. You don't know how to construct one properly, so it's hard to tell what was on your mind. of course that let you out Stevie No, Mark, it left YOU out. Your English comprehension and application suck. I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. you may have a point there we shall see likely as not This is funny... your sense of humor needs work, but that is not a new statement Brain suggesting others lack logic... Stevie you don't know the meaning of the word Yes, I do. And I know it does not apply to you. Sheesh.... Steve, K4YZ Again. |
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KØHB wrote: I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Depends on what you mean by "magic"... I enjoy a good magic show. Penn and Teller are favorites of mine, for a number of reasons, even though they often show how an illusion is done. Of course anyone with sense knows that magicians do not defy the laws of nature. They simply give the illusion of doing so. But what is important for the enjoyment of magic (or many other theatrical forms) is to "suspend disbelief" for a time. And to simply enjoy and wonder at the experience, rather than overanalyze and deconstruct it. Of course, you won't see a question concerning magic or metaphysics on the test you take to obtain your license, but in your heart you will cometo believe in that powerful, intangible force. Indeed! Been there, done that, many times. All of us in the hobby have felt its influence at one time or another. Some night when the band is dead as a doornail you'll be tuning aimlessly, not expecting to hear a single signal because NOTHING could be coming throughat that hour. But then, rising out of the noise like a ghost, there will be a faint call from another stalwart explorer thousands of miles distant. You pounce, establish contact and both of you marvel at the fact that the conversation is taking place at all. A few minutes later, however, the signal vanishes as quickly as it came. Your rational mind will shrug it off as a quirk of propagation, but that little tingle in your gut will tell you otherwise. Yup. Or maybe you really need a particular section or country in a contest. You've been up and down the bands looking, you've tried CQs, had lots of QSOs all around, with no dice. Maybe you even heard one or two but couldn't break the pile. Then, after all but giving up, you come across the needed section or country and work him on the first buzz with no trouble at all. If you could travel back in time to, say 500 years to 1505 AD, you'd probably be burned at the nearest stake for even suggesting that two human beings could communicate with each other over great distances without a physical connection. Even more recently than that - look what happened in Salem for much less. Consider that up until about 200 years ago, almost all human communication moved at the speed of a fast horse (overland) or fast ship (over water). President Andrew Jackson's communications options were not much different than those of Julius Caesar - except the Romans had more paved roads for their horses! Sam Morse changed all that. No doubt they would accuse you of dabbling in magic -- and they'd be right! As Amateur Radio operators, we work feats of magic every day. Many of ushave become jaded about our powers and we tend to dismiss them as commonplace.We hardly think twice when we use our equipment to sommon the elemental forces of the universe. But every so often we need to pause and remind ourselves ofwhat we are really doing. We need to remember the essence of what drew us to our unusual avocation in the first place: the wonderful magic of wireless communications. (With thanks to WB8IMY) Well said, Hans. -- "Hark! I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Corners Of The Earth! What King Of Old Could Do Thus?" --AC6V King? Heck, most of the old religions did not even ascribe the power of near-instant communication to their gods, let alone their kings. Another way to say it is that what amateur radio is really all about is "radio for its own sake". IOW, radio as an end in and of itself, not as a means to other ends. Sure, there are plenty of times when hams use amateur radio as a means to an end, (emergency communications, keeping in touch with friends and family members) and those things are all good. But I think that for most hams, that difficult-to-define-magical-something is what keeps us interested. And it takes many forms, whether it be putting a new rig or antenna on the air, working a new state or country, or just chatting with another radio amateur. Few weeks ago I received word that another Hans, from Great Britain, was here in the USA and had brought one of his unique QRP homebrew rigs with him. So we set up a sked and had a nice QSO on 80 meter CW - he with his 2 watt homebrew-on-a-perfboard rig powered by D cells rolled up in a section of the New York Times, and me with the Southgate Type 7. He made bunch of QSOs, testament to the gain attached to an unusual callsign. Now of course we'd traded many emails before and since. Yet the QSO was special and the emails weren't. Because it was *radio*.... 73 es tnx Hans (both of 'em!) de Jim, N2EY A sunset is just the refraction of light from the sun in certain ways due to differences of air density, humidity, dust, etc. Pure physics, really. Yet many of us consider them beautiful. |
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K4YZ wrote: stole_from_an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys_old_friend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_friend wrote: I don't think so. it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier version of Stevie I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her posting manners, she puts me in mind of Steve back when he arrived and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've only seen a photo of Steve. me too I am just giving her sight onseen the benifit of the doubt (what little doubt I have "sight UNseen" "benefit" So what "benefit" is it that YOU think you have to grant, Mark? benifit of the doubt as is obviouss to anyone with a working brain that read the sentence "Benefit" "obvious" Read what? The SENTENCE? Is THAT what that was? the sentence Obviously you were able to make every word that you can't seem to understand it after that must be a problem with your brain Hard to tell, really. You don't know how to construct one properly, so it's hard to tell what was on your mind. of course that let you out Stevie No, Mark, it left YOU out. wrong again batting 000 on accurate statement today Your English comprehension and application suck. I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her logic fails. you may have a point there we shall see likely as not This is funny... your sense of humor needs work, but that is not a new statement Brain suggesting others lack logic... Stevie you don't know the meaning of the word Yes, I do. not according to your postings. they make it clear you don't know the meaning of the word And I know it does not apply to you. logic as a word aplies to no one myself included (you too for that matter) logical can apply to people, and does apply to me (but not it seems yourself) Sheesh.... Steve, K4YZ Again. |
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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Depends on what you mean by "magic"... In the earliest days of radio, those who purchased parts and built sets to receive these radio waves were often accused of dabbling in magic. wasn't Faraday accused of it with a Vacum tube I seem to remember a story like that to do with an audio amp |
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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: an old friend wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Depends on what you mean by "magic"... In the earliest days of radio, those who purchased parts and built sets to receive these radio waves were often accused of dabbling in magic. wasn't Faraday accused of it with a Vacum tube I seem to remember a story like that to do with an audio amp Michael Faraday experimented with electricity and magnetism, long before the vaccum tube. yea I know but somebdoy I remeber reading an article not don't think it was micheal faraday of the laws and such suchthing like an audion it was cllaed as i recall |
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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Depends on what you mean by "magic"... In the earliest days of radio, those who purchased parts and built sets to receive these radio waves were often accused of dabbling in magic. wasn't Faraday accused of it with a Vacum tube I seem to remember a story like that to do with an audio amp Michael Faraday experimented with electricity and magnetism, long before the vaccum tube. |
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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: an old friend wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Depends on what you mean by "magic"... In the earliest days of radio, those who purchased parts and built sets to receive these radio waves were often accused of dabbling in magic. wasn't Faraday accused of it with a Vacum tube I seem to remember a story like that to do with an audio amp Michael Faraday experimented with electricity and magnetism, long before the vaccum tube. yea I know but somebdoy I remeber reading an article not don't think it was micheal faraday of the laws and such suchthing like an audion it was cllaed as i recall De Forest invented the first amplifying vaccum tube in 1906, he call it the 'audion'. |
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wrote Jim didn't have a chance to chime in before Hans blew his troll. Too bad. There is no voodoo or magic associated with RF propagation. There are several perfectly sound technical reasons why it is beneficial to occasionally sacrifice a goat in your antenna field. Beep beep |
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"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: cut Had a guy who used to work for me who thought that participating in a discussion was to zone out for most of the time, not paying any particular attention, then jump on how I (or others in the conversation) pronounced a word, or some other trivial thing. - Mike KB3EIA - Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote. Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on topic and be rational. Thanks. it is SOP around here esp when you don't have any facts to use Oh...like you AOF? Like the ones you claim to have learned while living with your parents all these years ? Or the ones you make up as you slur out various incoherent statements? Dan/W4NTI |
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... wrote Amateur radio isn't magical. I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Of course, you won't see a question concerning magic or metaphysics on the test you take to obtain your license, but in your heart you will come to believe in that powerful, intangible force. All of us in the hobby have felt its influence at one time or another. Some night when the band is dead as a doornail you'll be tuning aimlessly, not expecting to hear a single signal because NOTHING could be coming through at that hour. But then, rising out of the noise like a ghost, there will be a faint call from another stalwart explorer thousands of miles distant. You pounce, establish contact and both of you marvel at the fact that the conversation is taking place at all. A few minutes later, however, the signal vanishes as quickly as it came. Your rational mind will shrug it off as a quirk of propagation, but that little tingle in your gut will tell you otherwise. If you could travel back in time to, say 500 years to 1505 AD, you'd probably be burned at the nearest stake for even suggesting that two human beings could communicate with each other over great distances without a physical connection. No doubt they would accuse you of dabbling in magic -- and they'd be right! As Amateur Radio operators, we work feats of magic every day. Many of us have become jaded about our powers and we tend to dismiss them as commonplace. We hardly think twice when we use our equipment to sommon the elemental forces of the universe. But every so often we need to pause and remind ourselves of what we are really doing. We need to remember the essence of what drew us to our unusual avocation in the first place: the wonderful magic of wireless communications. (With thanks to WB8IMY) 73, de Hans, K0HB -- "Hark! I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Corners Of The Earth! What King Of Old Could Do Thus?" --AC6V Yes it is the "magic" of wireless that is endlessly fascinating. The part about "summon elemental forces of the universe" is awesome. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Dee, I remember hearing about years ago when "Ether" was considered the medium of how radio was propagated. That particular theory ran into trouble when we started sending space shots up.. Dan/W4NTI |
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"an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: It is a fun hobby, an activity done for personal pleasure but one that requires federal regulation due to the nature of EM propagation. Some want it to be MUCH MORE than what it is in order to fulfill some kind of daydream they have to show their personal greatness. shrug And often it is MUCH MORE. Yep. Often it is higher class hams dissing lower class hams. As usual, ham radio operators help sustain wide-ranging relief efforts True enough. But those efforts must obey the same laws of physics that the other radio services obey. Amateur radio isn't magical. Morse code isn't magical, mystical, nor mythical. So the "lower class" doesn't "diss" those with a higher class license? Personally I think that must stop, from BOTH ends of the license structure. so when you going to stop? And your right, Ham nor Morse is not magical, mystical, nor mythical. But Morse DOES WORK and so does Amateur Radio Emergency Communications. End of Discussion. but how well does it work? what does it acheieve as opposed to what it could do you are showing your true colors nothing may be questioed or discussed without accept your ground rules in adnavnce Dan/W4NTI Let me make this as simple as I possible can for your intellect level.........Stuff it somewhere that is DARK. Need any explanation dip****? Dan/W4NTI |
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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
wrote: KØHB wrote: I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur Radio. Depends on what you mean by "magic"... In the earliest days of radio, those who purchased parts and built sets to receive these radio waves were often accused of dabbling in magic. We still are, it seems - quitesurprisingly! - Mike KB3EIA - |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... wrote Amateur radio isn't magical. pruning and remind ourselves of what we are really doing. We need to remember the essence of what drew us to our unusual avocation in the first place: the wonderful magic of wireless communications. (With thanks to WB8IMY) 73, de Hans, K0HB -- "Hark! I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Corners Of The Earth! What King Of Old Could Do Thus?" --AC6V Yes it is the "magic" of wireless that is endlessly fascinating. The part about "summon elemental forces of the universe" is awesome. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Dee, I remember hearing about years ago when "Ether" was considered the mediumof how radio was propagated. That particular theory ran into trouble when we started sending space shots up.. wrong again Dan it was the Michealson and Morley (I doubt that I spelled either name right) when they tried to used light and prsisms to measure the speed at which the Earth was moving through that ether. there results proved that the Pope who scantioned Galleio was wrong and the earth was in fact center of the unverse (or at least not moving wrt to that center) or form the basis of Special relitivity. this was well before space shot. Today it is comon expriment for college physics students in about their 3rd year (at least that is when I did) but the demotration preceded Von Braun and Goddard by at least 30 years maybe more like 40 to 50 years. indeed it may have preceeded radio itself cant rememebr right off Dan/W4NTI |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: cut Had a guy who used to work for me who thought that participating in a discussion was to zone out for most of the time, not paying any particular attention, then jump on how I (or others in the conversation) pronounced a word, or some other trivial thing. - Mike KB3EIA - Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote. Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on topic and be rational. Thanks. it is SOP around here esp when you don't have any facts to use Oh...like you AOF? not at all I don't need to resort to such things Like the ones you claim to have learned while living with your parents all these years ? Or the ones you make up as you slur out various incoherent statements? again you are the one making incoherant statement here Dan again with the SOP attack the person not the facts when you have no facts Dan/W4NTI |
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Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote. Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on topic and be rational. Thanks. Quite frankly Brian, in this respect you are *exactly* like him. I am not trying to discredit you, and have no need to. - Mike KB3EIA - Quite frankly, Mike, you cut my direct quotations of Hans, Dee, and youself, then reiterate that like your "supposed" substandard employee I don't know the subject at hand. Why cut quotes of yourself if I don't have a handle on the subject matter? Did this employee have a name? Hi! Is it Friday? I smell fish. |
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KØHB wrote: wrote Jim didn't have a chance to chime in before Hans blew his troll. Too bad. There is no voodoo or magic associated with RF propagation. Dee tends to think there is. Mike chimed in. Now you reneg on the concept. They should "feel" suckered. There are several perfectly sound technical reasons why it is beneficial to occasionally sacrifice a goat in your antenna field. Beep beep List them. |
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Mike Coslo wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote I merely question your, Jim's, and Mike's exuberance in questioning others faith in God. Why do it? I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you. Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that. - Mike KB3EIA - If you only knew. |
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