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[email protected] October 18th 05 03:01 AM

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wrote:
KØHB wrote:

I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur
Radio.


Depends on what you mean by "magic"...


You are quoting Dee, attributing Hans...

Magic?


[email protected] October 18th 05 03:02 AM

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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:


I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur
Radio.



Depends on what you mean by "magic"...



In the earliest days of radio, those who purchased parts and built sets
to receive these radio waves were often accused of dabbling in magic.


Hi!


KØHB October 18th 05 03:44 AM

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wrote

wrote:
KØHB wrote:

I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy
Amateur
Radio.


Depends on what you mean by "magic"...


You are quoting Dee, attributing Hans...

Magic?


No magic. He quoted me and attributed me.

Sunnuvagun!

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB
--
Grand Exhalted Liberator of the Magic Electric Smoke






[email protected] October 18th 05 11:08 AM

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Dee Flint wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

an_old_friend wrote:

I don't think so.

it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier
version of Stevie


I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her
posting manners, and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've
only seen a photo of Steve.

I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her
logic fails.


No, I simply make every effort not to get involved in the back and forth
arguments that many engage in. No one is going to change any one else's
opinions and since the discussions far too often deteriorate into pointless
bickering and name calling, I choose not to participate in such.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Fair enough.


K4YZ October 18th 05 11:36 AM

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lied_to__old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
stole_from_an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_friend wrote:

I don't think so.

it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier
version of Stevie

I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her
posting manners,

she puts me in mind of Steve back when he arrived

and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've
only seen a photo of Steve.

me too I am just giving her sight onseen the benifit of the doubt (what
little doubt I have

"sight UNseen" "benefit"

So what "benefit" is it that YOU think you have to grant, Mark?

benifit of the doubt as is obviouss to anyone with a working brain that
read the sentence


"Benefit" "obvious"

Read what? The SENTENCE? Is THAT what that was?


the sentence


"the sentence"...WHAT...?!?!

Obviously you were able to make every word


"...make every word"...WHAT...?!?!

that you can't seem to understand it after that must be a problem with
your brain


It's not a problem with my brain...It's a problem with YOUR
fractured English.

Hard to tell, really. You don't know how to construct one
properly, so it's hard to tell what was on your mind.

of course that let you out Stevie


No, Mark, it left YOU out.


wrong again


Nope.

batting 000 on accurate statement today


You forgot the "1", Mark...Batting 1000 today...

Your English comprehension and application suck.

I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her
logic fails.

you may have a point there we shall see likely as not

This is funny...

your sense of humor needs work, but that is not a new statement

Brain suggesting others lack logic...

Stevie you don't know the meaning of the word


Yes, I do.


not according to your postings. they make it clear you don't know the
meaning of the word


Sure I do.

It's your inadequacies with English that make things difficult.

YOU have a hard time with understanding what's said to you, and
then compound the problem with not being able to express yourself to
mutual understanding.

And I know it does not apply to you.


logic as a word aplies to no one myself included (you too for that
matter) logical can apply to people, and does apply to me (but not it
seems yourself)


WHAT was THAT...?!?!

Must have been the written version of a "merry-go-round", because
it's making me dizzy.

Sheesh....

Steve, K4YZ


Again.


And again.

Steve, K4YZ


Michael Coslo October 18th 05 01:54 PM

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:



I remember hearing about years ago when "Ether" was considered the medium of
how radio was propagated. That particular theory ran into trouble when we
started sending space shots up..



Well, they figured it was ether that, or sumpthin' else.....



- Mike KB3EIA -


Michael Coslo October 18th 05 01:59 PM

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wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

wrote:


Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote.
Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your
substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on
topic and be rational. Thanks.


Quite frankly Brian, in this respect you are *exactly* like him. I am
not trying to discredit you, and have no need to.


- Mike KB3EIA -



Quite frankly, Mike, you cut my direct quotations of Hans, Dee, and
youself, then reiterate that like your "supposed" substandard employee
I don't know the subject at hand.

Why cut quotes of yourself if I don't have a handle on the subject
matter?


nettiquite.

Did this employee have a name? Hi!


Sure did. I'd prefer not to out him on the net though. I've got no need
to dissemble for newsgroup points.


Is it Friday? I smell fish.



That reminds me, I have a nice piece of salmon in the freezer that
sounds pretty good for dinner....


- Mike KB3EIA -


Cmd Buzz Corey October 18th 05 09:47 PM

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George Orwell wrote:
In article .com
wrote:

From: Cmd Buzz Corey on Thurs 13 Oct 2005 20:33


wrote:


Were there any AIR ATTACKS on the
United States then?

Sure was.


Riiiiight...all launched by Japanese RADIO AMATEURS?



Pearl Harbor? Not balloons, but Zeros.


Hawaii wasn't a state then, so technically the Japanese attacked a US
Territory.


K4YZ October 18th 05 10:15 PM

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nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"raped_an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
cut
Had a guy who used to work for me who thought that participating in a
discussion was to zone out for most of the time, not paying any
particular attention, then jump on how I (or others in the
conversation)
pronounced a word, or some other trivial thing.

Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote.
Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your
substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on
topic and be rational. Thanks.

it is SOP around here esp when you don't have any facts to use


Oh...like you AOF?


not at all I don't need to resort to such things


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Thanks, Mark!

Steve, K4YZ


[email protected] October 18th 05 11:11 PM

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On 18 Oct 2005 03:36:49 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote:


lied_to__old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

cut
benifit of the doubt as is obviouss to anyone with a working brain that
read the sentence

"Benefit" "obvious"

Read what? The SENTENCE? Is THAT what that was?


the sentence


"the sentence"...WHAT...?!?!

Obviously you were able to make every word


"...make every word"...WHAT...?!?!


you understood it well enough to correct it

that you can't seem to understand it after that must be a problem with
your brain


It's not a problem with my brain...It's a problem with YOUR
fractured English.


no it is your brain

Hard to tell, really. You don't know how to construct one
properly, so it's hard to tell what was on your mind.

of course that let you out Stevie

No, Mark, it left YOU out.


wrong again


Nope.

batting 000 on accurate statement today


You forgot the "1", Mark...Batting 1000 today...


not at all

batting zero

no truth

no facts

just lies

Your English comprehension and application suck.

I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her
logic fails.

you may have a point there we shall see likely as not

This is funny...

your sense of humor needs work, but that is not a new statement

Brain suggesting others lack logic...

Stevie you don't know the meaning of the word

Yes, I do.


not according to your postings. they make it clear you don't know the
meaning of the word


Sure I do.

It's your inadequacies with English that make things difficult.


more of your evasion

My English comp skill have nothing to do with the meaning of logic

another lie for stveie boy


YOU have a hard time with understanding what's said to you, and
then compound the problem with not being able to express yourself to
mutual understanding.


wrong again

the porblem is that I don't accept your premises tyour "logic" then
become a case of GIGO


And I know it does not apply to you.


logic as a word aplies to no one myself included (you too for that
matter) logical can apply to people, and does apply to me (but not it
seems yourself)


WHAT was THAT...?!?!

Must have been the written version of a "merry-go-round", because
it's making me dizzy.


no just you lack of brains (and for that matter showing you don't
English gramar either) pay it no mind


Sheesh....

Steve, K4YZ

Again.


And again.

Steve, K4YZ


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[email protected] October 19th 05 02:15 AM

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K4YZ wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"raped_an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
cut
Had a guy who used to work for me who thought that participating in a
discussion was to zone out for most of the time, not paying any
particular attention, then jump on how I (or others in the
conversation)
pronounced a word, or some other trivial thing.

Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote.
Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your
substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on
topic and be rational. Thanks.

it is SOP around here esp when you don't have any facts to use

Oh...like you AOF?


not at all I don't need to resort to such things


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASNORTSNO RTCHUCKLECHUKLEHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
! !

coughcoughsnortsnort


Sounds like an emergency tracheotomy is needed.


[email protected] October 19th 05 11:48 AM

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Mike Coslo wrote:
KØHB wrote:


I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take
comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you.


Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that.


Exactly, Mike. What gets some folks particularly up-in-arms is when
someone points out the obvious contradictions in their religious
beliefs.

For example, it's interesting to note the reactions of those who insist
that every word of the Bible is literally true when you point out that
the two creation stories in Genesis contradict each other. Or that
Christ's message of nonviolence is largely ignored by modern
'Christians'...

Or what if someone's religion requires that they question and analyze
religious belief systems? And that contradictions be pointed out?

The problem that quite a few of us have with 'intelligent design' (aka
"creationism in a cheap tuxedo") is that it is an attempt by certain
people to have their *religious* beliefs not only taught in public
schools, but taught as *science*, not religion.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Michael Coslo October 19th 05 12:50 PM

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wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

KØHB wrote:



I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take
comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you.


Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that.



Exactly, Mike. What gets some folks particularly up-in-arms is when
someone points out the obvious contradictions in their religious
beliefs.


Seems to be the same folk that believe that depriving others of their
rights is one of *their* rights.


For example, it's interesting to note the reactions of those who insist
that every word of the Bible is literally true when you point out that
the two creation stories in Genesis contradict each other. Or that
Christ's message of nonviolence is largely ignored by modern
'Christians'...


That is because they are "religious" but they aren't strictly Christians.

Or what if someone's religion requires that they question and analyze
religious belief systems? And that contradictions be pointed out?


A religion of heretics? Sounds like a Frank Herbert type of thing.

The problem that quite a few of us have with 'intelligent design' (aka
"creationism in a cheap tuxedo") is that it is an attempt by certain
people to have their *religious* beliefs not only taught in public
schools, but taught as *science*, not religion.



Do you want to know the big problem IMO? This "intelligent design"
thing is promoted by some religious groups as an alternative "scientific
approach. It is in all their arguments, it is how they promote the concept.

But that isn't why they want it there. They want it there because they
want to put in what they believe, ie the 6 day creation thing in 4004
b.c. No world that always existed, no world created by any other god, no
world on a turtle, with turtles all the way down.

Lying for God.

- Mike KB3EIA -


[email protected] October 19th 05 11:07 PM

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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

wrote:


Yet I read every word that Hans wrote, that Dee wrote, and you wrote.
Trying to discredit me and attempting to compare me to one of your
substandard employees is not the right tactic to take. Try to stay on
topic and be rational. Thanks.


Quite frankly Brian, in this respect you are *exactly* like him. I am
not trying to discredit you, and have no need to.


- Mike KB3EIA -



Quite frankly, Mike, you cut my direct quotations of Hans, Dee, and
youself, then reiterate that like your "supposed" substandard employee
I don't know the subject at hand.

Why cut quotes of yourself if I don't have a handle on the subject
matter?


nettiquite.


Quitefine.

Did this employee have a name? Hi!


Sure did. I'd prefer not to out him on the net though. I've got no need
to dissemble for newsgroup points.


How convenient.

Is it Friday? I smell fish.



That reminds me, I have a nice piece of salmon in the freezer that
sounds pretty good for dinner....


Good Catholic tradition.


[email protected] October 19th 05 11:11 PM

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wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
KØHB wrote:


I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take
comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you.


Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that.


Exactly, Mike. What gets some folks particularly up-in-arms is when
someone points out the obvious contradictions in their religious
beliefs.

For example, it's interesting to note the reactions of those who insist
that every word of the Bible is literally true when you point out that
the two creation stories in Genesis contradict each other. Or that
Christ's message of nonviolence is largely ignored by modern
'Christians'...

Or what if someone's religion requires that they question and analyze
religious belief systems? And that contradictions be pointed out?

The problem that quite a few of us have with 'intelligent design' (aka
"creationism in a cheap tuxedo") is that it is an attempt by certain
people to have their *religious* beliefs not only taught in public
schools, but taught as *science*, not religion.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I think it's obvious that Jim absolutely despises fundies. But only
Christian fundies. Where never is heard a discouraging word about
fundy Jews or Moslems.


[email protected] October 19th 05 11:16 PM

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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

KØHB wrote:



I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoyit, take
comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you.

Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that.



Exactly, Mike. What gets some folks particularly up-in-arms is when
someone points out the obvious contradictions in their religious
beliefs.


Seems to be the same folk that believe that depriving others of their
rights is one of *their* rights.


Yep. Such as the fundamentalist who staps on some dynamite and
deprives others of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.


[email protected] October 19th 05 11:18 PM

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KØHB wrote:
wrote

wrote:
KØHB wrote:

I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy
Amateur
Radio.

Depends on what you mean by "magic"...


You are quoting Dee, attributing Hans...

Magic?


No magic. He quoted me and attributed me.



You are correct.


Mike Coslo October 20th 05 12:38 AM

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wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:


KØHB wrote:


I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take
comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you.

Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are like that.


Exactly, Mike. What gets some folks particularly up-in-arms is when
someone points out the obvious contradictions in their religious
beliefs.


Seems to be the same folk that believe that depriving others of their
rights is one of *their* rights.



Yep. Such as the fundamentalist who staps on some dynamite and
deprives others of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

That's right, Brian. All fundamentalists are potentially dangerous.
Nothing wrong with faith unless it is so encompassing that you are so
"faithful" that you are willing to kill those who disagree with you and
that fundamental faith.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Dee Flint October 20th 05 03:53 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

KØHB wrote:
wrote


Jim didn't have a chance to chime in before Hans blew his troll. Too
bad.


There is no voodoo or magic associated with RF
propagation.


Dee tends to think there is. Mike chimed in. Now you reneg on the
concept. They should "feel" suckered.

__________________________________________________ ______

No Mike and I are only speaking of the magical feel that it gives.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Dee Flint October 20th 05 03:58 AM

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wrote in message
ups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

an_old_friend wrote:

I don't think so.

it seems she does enjoy hectoring folks, and generaly being a pretier
version of Stevie

I have to disagree with you on this. Dee is nothing like Steve in her
posting manners, and I cannot comment on her "prettiness" since I've
only seen a photo of Steve.

I think she is much more like Jim; quick to cut off discussion when her
logic fails.


No, I simply make every effort not to get involved in the back and forth
arguments that many engage in. No one is going to change any one else's
opinions and since the discussions far too often deteriorate into
pointless
bickering and name calling, I choose not to participate in such.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Fair enough.


Thank you.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Dee Flint October 20th 05 04:15 AM

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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:



I remember hearing about years ago when "Ether" was considered the medium
of how radio was propagated. That particular theory ran into trouble
when we started sending space shots up..



Well, they figured it was ether that, or sumpthin' else.....



- Mike KB3EIA -


GROAN!!

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



[email protected] October 25th 05 10:34 PM

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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
I think belief in magic IS a necessary requirement to really enjoy Amateur
Radio.


Depends on what you mean by "magic"...



10 meters, a couple years back. I was a fairly new ham, and was trying
out psk31 and enjoying it.

On 10 meters, I saw an amateur from Oz QSO'ing with someone I couln't see.

I called, and we had a nice QSO. We were both using about ten watts.
Good Copy. From just about as far away as you can get without coming back.

Magic.


I think it goes further. The great minds said, one way or another, that
they never stopped trying to be as children. They never stopped
striving for a sense of curiosity, wonderment and enjoyment at even the
simplest of things.

Yet too many of us abandon that as we "grow up" and come to put away
"childish" things. We abandon the imaginative and creative and, too
often, we move into nothing more than the tedious drudgery of the
nine-to-five and predictable work.

How much is lost when we abandon the joy and wonder of childhood and
all that it entails.

73 de Jim, N2EY


[email protected] October 26th 05 02:37 AM

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Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:


KØHB wrote:


I don't question your faith. I'm sure it's genuine to you. Enjoy it, take
comfort in it, and may it be a blessing to you.

Perhaps it is a faith that cannot accept questioning? Some are likethat.


Exactly, Mike. What gets some folks particularly up-in-arms is when
someone points out the obvious contradictions in their religious
beliefs.

Seems to be the same folk that believe that depriving others of their
rights is one of *their* rights.



Yep. Such as the fundamentalist who staps on some dynamite and
deprives others of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

That's right, Brian. All fundamentalists are potentially dangerous.
Nothing wrong with faith unless it is so encompassing that you are so
"faithful" that you are willing to kill those who disagree with you and
that fundamental faith.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Arguments can be made for the potential dangers of atheists as well.


Kim November 20th 05 03:57 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

He seems to have the clout to say it will be. Why not the opposite?

*WHY* should we all pay to rebuild a city below sea level in a
hurricane zone?

73 de Jim, N2EY


OMG!!!!!!! Howdy all and Happy Thanksgiving coming up. I know this is an
old post (from Oct) and I'll see if I can follow it to current, but just
opening messages randomly and saw this sentiment.

Hooray, Jim, for saying that. Exactly. Man, down here in the Dallas area,
people are seething (OK, maybe not seething, but they're pretty darned
po'ed) about this whole situation. We have people out of work, homeless,
distraught, etc., every day all day here. And, when the disaster happens,
suddenly compassion must go out.

Not saying the poor folks wrapped up in this tragedy don't deserve
compassion. They do. But, what in the world is the deal with this? As I
said, people are struggling every day--and it didn't take a disaster to ge
them the they live this every day for whatever reason. News around here
shows the evacuees (they didn't want to be called refugees) are thankless,
asking for more, and say they DESERVE whatever "we" can get and give for
them!!??

PAH!!! I'll tend to myself and they can, too. We've got motel/hotel rooms,
apts, homes, etc., with the folks living in them who've been sitting on
their royal you-know-whats and, now that FEMA said assistance would end Dec
1--they (the evacuees) have decided that they need to go find work, find new
homes, etc. EXCUSE ME??!! Shoulda been out there longer ago than now.

I don't know. It's one huge messed up siteeashun down heeya. And, those of
us who were forced (by way of tax dollars) to support the lunacy that's been
behind the assistance, are fed up. NO, we DON'T need to support any
rebuilding in a hurricane zone. Period. (Although a lot of trade and
commerce goes through the port...what about that?)

Kim W5TIT



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Kim November 20th 05 04:14 PM

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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
...

I have no problem in principle with a person building their house on
the lava dome of Mt St Helens if they are so inclined. However, I do
have a problem if he wants me to buy his insurance or build him a new
house when the present one burns up because of it's location. Same goes
for building that wonderful vacation retreat on a barrier island or 50
feet from the ocean. That land is transient, and IMO so is any human
structure built on it

Do you support paying for these peoples stupidity? (The stupidity is in
my opinion - but a pretty good case can be made for it being stupid)

- Mike KB3EIA -


A pretty good case indeed. Here's the insanity, in my opinion. The cost of
things related to this disaster are just gross. Please. I have a
brother-in-law who is down in that area doing sub-contract work for FEMA.
He is down there with his dad. His dad hasn't had a thing to do YET. Been
down there for, I think, around a month--maybe more--at $65.00 a day. The
man (the dad) hasn't worked a day in his life for years, and whines about
any arguments from his kids to get to work. The son (my brother-in-law's
brother) is getting paid somewhere around $3500.00 a month!!

You've surely all heard the rates that are being paid for rooms in cruise
ships, motels, hotels, apartments, etc. for these folks to live? Rates
those places couldn't make under normal circumstances!! When the folks were
over here at the Dallas Convention Ctr., we had an ex-coworker (bless her
beautiful, patient heart) who called us one day and wanted all of us to get
money together from everyone at her former workplace to BUY PLAYSTAIONS for
the kids...and, oh yeah, it would be great if big-screen TVs could be bought
so they could "see better." 'SCUSE ME? A) these folks are in a disaster
situation and should have had tents provided to them nearer to their home
area (we do that in foreign lands...why not here?); B) what happens to these
TVs and Playstations at the end of all this?

I wish you all could walk around on the streets of Dallas downtown and ride
the public transportation and hear the stories of the $2,000.00 credit cards
that were obtained from people that live HERE LOCALLY and simply showed up
and got one. AND, the same credit cards being used by some of the evacuees
to buy drugs, overpriced designer clothing, purses, CDs, etc. One person
was asked why they weren't buying food with it, and "oh, that's being given
to us, we don't need to buy food."

It's just gross the way all this has been handled. Stupidity. Absolutely.
I'm going to look at the newsgroup the next few days (vacation...yahoo!) and
see what's happening.

Kim W5TIT



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