to all those persons believ spouting the bull**** that teaching one
kids to lie on the net is child abuse I off ther following Numbers

the Michigan Child abuse Hotline
1-800-942-4357

it is my understanding that the above number may only be usable the
residenet of Michigan

so I also provide the following for the local office of the state
agentcy in question

1-906-353-4700

this will connect you with the Family Independence agency for Houghton
Baraga and Keweenaw Counties

In some states is is a crime to falsely report child abuse, I do not
know wether it is or is not a crime in Michigan

I also know that you can make an anouomous report if you like, as
someone did some time back claiming I was abusing my father. From that
incident I know the law requires abuse claims to be investagted within
24 hours but that in practical term it sometimes takes a bit longer

So if you think I am abusing some child report, as you should if you
truly believe that crap, otherwise I ask that you drop it.

Of course I lack the power to enforce my wishes but I make them known

Starting from the title:

an open Invite to those that fell that teling ones kids to lie on
the net is child abuse

"feel" "telling" "one's"

You've only now chaged your "parameter" to "on the net".

However lying is lying.

nobodys old friend wrote:
to all those persons believ spouting the bull#### that teaching one
kids to lie on the net is child abuse I off ther following Numbers

"believe" "one's" "offer" "the"

the Michigan Child abuse Hotline
1-800-942-4357

it is my understanding that the above number may only be usable the
residenet of Michigan

"residents"

You understand very little. That sentence had more holes in it
than the Bismark.

so I also provide the following for the local office of the state
agentcy in question

1-906-353-4700

"agency"

this will connect you with the Family Independence agency for Houghton
Baraga and Keweenaw Counties

In some states is is a crime to falsely report child abuse, I do not
know wether it is or is not a crime in Michigan

"whether" "it is", not "is is"

To falsely report ANY act agaist children is a crime in all
states, Mark. Including YOUR state of mind.

I also know that you can make an anouomous report if you like, as
someone did some time back claiming I was abusing my father. From that
incident I know the law requires abuse claims to be investagted within
24 hours but that in practical term it sometimes takes a bit longer

"anonymous"

So NOW I know why they replied "we cannot comment on on-going
investigations" and "your report will be passed to the officer involved
in this case".

Note I quote "...in this case".

Obviously there was NO case as far as I KNEW..Someone slipped and
let the cat out of the bag and Mark obligingly verified it for me that
I was NOT the FIRST to approach the authorities in Michigan!

So if you think I am abusing some child report, as you should if you
truly believe that crap, otherwise I ask that you drop it.

No one said you're "abusing some child report"...Hey, take that
piece of paper out back, tape it to a tree, and plink at it all day
long for all I care! Abuse all the reports you care to!

Of course I lack the power to enforce my wishes but I make them known

You only lack the power to "enforce" your wishes when you do
nothing to make them happen.

You have expressed a "wish" to be an HF-licensed Amateur...The
ONLY thing holding you back is YOU!

Mark...you were a pitiful little dweeb of a human BEFORE you made
this "invitation", and now you look all the more idiotic and paranoid
for it. Add that to your fractured, ill-conceived narrative and you
look more and more like you're in need of confined, definitive care.

They will be much more impressed if you show up voluntarilly and
ask for help, rather than have to drag you off kicking and screaming.

Do it now. Do it for your own good.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
Starting from the title:

an open Invite to those that fell that teling ones kids to lie on
the net is child abuse

"feel" "telling" "one's"

You've only now chaged your "parameter" to "on the net".

not really I have always said in the porper place, which is mostly on
the net

However lying is lying.

nobodys old friend wrote:
to all those persons believ spouting the bull#### that teaching one
kids to lie on the net is child abuse I off ther following Numbers

"believe" "one's" "offer" "the"

the Michigan Child abuse Hotline
1-800-942-4357

it is my understanding that the above number may only be usable the
residenet of Michigan

"residents"

You understand very little. That sentence had more holes in it
than the Bismark.

so I also provide the following for the local office of the state
agentcy in question

1-906-353-4700

"agency"

this will connect you with the Family Independence agency for Houghton
Baraga and Keweenaw Counties

In some states is is a crime to falsely report child abuse, I do not
know wether it is or is not a crime in Michigan

"whether" "it is", not "is is"

To falsely report ANY act agaist children is a crime in all
states, Mark. Including YOUR state of mind.

no it is not Stevie In Indiania any report of child abuse can be legaly
can be made legaly

In Michigan is not a crime to falsely report elder abuse, as I checked
on when I had to deal with that false report

I also know that you can make an anouomous report if you like, as
someone did some time back claiming I was abusing my father. From that
incident I know the law requires abuse claims to be investagted within
24 hours but that in practical term it sometimes takes a bit longer

"anonymous"

So NOW I know why they replied "we cannot comment on on-going
investigations" and "your report will be passed to the officer involved
in this case".

Note I quote "...in this case".

nothing specail they say that always see further comments below

Obviously there was NO case as far as I KNEW..Someone slipped and
let the cat out of the bag and Mark obligingly verified it for me that
I was NOT the FIRST to approach the authorities in Michigan!

maybe not

for daring to take public stands on issues over the years I have been
reported for many things

if you had asked I would have confirmed it for you

those taking political stand in this "free" country have for years been
the targets of effort

So if you think I am abusing some child report, as you should if you
truly believe that crap, otherwise I ask that you drop it.

No one said you're "abusing some child report"...Hey, take that
piece of paper out back, tape it to a tree, and plink at it all day
long for all I care! Abuse all the reports you care to!

Of course I lack the power to enforce my wishes but I make them known

You only lack the power to "enforce" your wishes when you do
nothing to make them happen.

more bull**** Stevie nothing I can realy do to stop your harrasment, at
least not without breaking the law

You have expressed a "wish" to be an HF-licensed Amateur...The
ONLY thing holding you back is YOU!

not at all My publicaly stated estimate says I will achive that goal on
or about 1 APR 2006

Mark...you were a pitiful little dweeb of a human BEFORE you made
this "invitation", and now you look all the more idiotic and paranoid
for it. Add that to your fractured, ill-conceived narrative and you
look more and more like you're in need of confined, definitive care.

well simply tried of the threat and bull****

but again if you think I am abusing a child make a report. It will the
half dozen or so reports that I know about, let alone the ones that
never rose to a level that anyone bothered with

They will be much more impressed if you show up voluntarilly and
ask for help, rather than have to drag you off kicking and screaming.

show up and say "Stevie says I should report myself for child abuse
becuase I think kids should be taught to always lie in public forums on
the internet, and in certain other condictions as well"

being that stupid is about the only thing I could do that might get me
comitted

BTW I realy don't care about impressing figures of authority. I would
have thought you'd learned that by now

Do it now. Do it for your own good.

try it yourself

Steve, K4YZ

STFU, child abuser.

wrote:
STFU, child abuser.

go ahead make the call

Do something for a change don't just whine about it I gave you the
number

you are just coward like Stevie and Dan and most of the others

full of bull**** but you talk the talk but don't walk the walk

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
STFU, child abuser.

go ahead make the call

You are quite the simpleton, dumbass!

Do something for a change don't just whine about it I gave you the
number

you are just coward like Stevie and Dan and most of the others

full of bull**** but you talk the talk but don't walk the walk

We'll see, child abuser, we'll see.

nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Starting from the title:

an open Invite to those that fell that teling ones kids to lie on
the net is child abuse

"feel" "telling" "one's"

You've only now chaged your "parameter" to "on the net".

not really I have always said in the porper place, which is mostly on
the net

"proper"

However lying is lying.

And that remains the same today. Nothing's changed.

nobodys old friend wrote:
to all those persons believ spouting the bull#### that teaching one
kids to lie on the net is child abuse I off ther following Numbers

"believe" "one's" "offer" "the"

the Michigan Child abuse Hotline
1-800-942-4357

it is my understanding that the above number may only be usable the
residenet of Michigan

"residents"

You understand very little. That sentence had more holes in it
than the Bismark.

so I also provide the following for the local office of the state
agentcy in question

1-906-353-4700

"agency"

this will connect you with the Family Independence agency for Houghton
Baraga and Keweenaw Counties

In some states is is a crime to falsely report child abuse, I do not
know wether it is or is not a crime in Michigan

"whether" "it is", not "is is"

To falsely report ANY act agaist children is a crime in all
states, Mark. Including YOUR state of mind.

no it is not Stevie In Indiania any report of child abuse can be legaly
can be made legaly

"Legally"

Re-read that sentence, you flaming idiot, and then you will
understand why I laugh at you all the time!

Mark...I said "To FALSELY (my emphasis) report ANY act against
children is a crime in all states, Mark."

In Michigan is not a crime to falsely report elder abuse, as I checked
on when I had to deal with that false report

Yes, Mark, it is a crime.

You were either too stupid to understand what was being said, or
you were lied to...

I also know that you can make an anouomous report if you like, as
someone did some time back claiming I was abusing my father. From that
incident I know the law requires abuse claims to be investagted within
24 hours but that in practical term it sometimes takes a bit longer

"anonymous"

So NOW I know why they replied "we cannot comment on on-going
investigations" and "your report will be passed to the officer involved
in this case".

Note I quote "...in this case".

nothing specail they say that always see further comments below

"special"

Obviously there was NO case as far as I KNEW..Someone slipped and
let the cat out of the bag and Mark obligingly verified it for me that
I was NOT the FIRST to approach the authorities in Michigan!

maybe not

No "maybe" to it, Mark! Obviously you ARE the nutcase I believe
you to be! Someone else has been there before me!

for daring to take public stands on issues over the years I have been
reported for many things

If you think that the simple act of publically expressing an
opinion got you to where youa re today, you're even more deluded than I
surmised.

if you had asked I would have confirmed it for you

I have asked. You've denied it before. But then you ALSO claimed
to be a Colonel in the United States Army, too.....

those taking political stand in this "free" country have for years been
the targets of effort

It's got nothing to do with your "political" views.

It's got EVERY thing to do with your being a two-legged bag of
fruit loops.

So if you think I am abusing some child report, as you should if you
truly believe that crap, otherwise I ask that you drop it.

No one said you're "abusing some child report"...Hey, take that
piece of paper out back, tape it to a tree, and plink at it all day
long for all I care! Abuse all the reports you care to!

Of course I lack the power to enforce my wishes but I make them known

You only lack the power to "enforce" your wishes when you do
nothing to make them happen.

more bull#### Stevie nothing I can realy do to stop your harrasment, at
least not without breaking the law

"really"

What harrassment?

You mean making fun of your silliness and repeatedly proving you
to be the fool that you are?

THAT is a consequence of YOUR doings, Mark. Nothing I do or say
here to or about you could happen without your tacit support.

You have expressed a "wish" to be an HF-licensed Amateur...The
ONLY thing holding you back is YOU!

not at all My publicaly stated estimate says I will achive that goal on
or about 1 APR 2006

"publically"

My publically stated estimate says that no matter when or how you
"upgrade" to HF in the Amateur Radio service, you'll still be a liar
and a deviant.

Mark...you were a pitiful little dweeb of a human BEFORE you made
this "invitation", and now you look all the more idiotic and paranoid
for it. Add that to your fractured, ill-conceived narrative and you
look more and more like you're in need of confined, definitive care.

well simply tried of the threat and bull####

"tired"

What threats?

And if you're tired of the BS, stop promulgating it.

but again if you think I am abusing a child make a report. It will the
half dozen or so reports that I know about, let alone the ones that
never rose to a level that anyone bothered with

This get's funnier by the minute!

They will be much more impressed if you show up voluntarilly and
ask for help, rather than have to drag you off kicking and screaming.

show up and say "Stevie says I should report myself for child abuse
becuase I think kids should be taught to always lie in public forums on
the internet, and in certain other condictions as well"

No.

Show up and admit that you are a pathological liar, that you are a
predator and a social services parasite.

being that stupid is about the only thing I could do that might get me
comitted

Well, Mark, you ARE that stupid.

BTW I realy don't care about impressing figures of authority. I would
have thought you'd learned that by now

"really"

It's not about impressing anyone, Mark. It's about you seeking
help.

Do it now. Do it for your own good.

try it yourself

I don't need it. You do.

Steve, K4YZ

KY4Z wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
KY4Z wrote:
Starting from the title:

an open Invite to those that fell that teling ones kids to lie on
the net is child abuse

"feel" "telling" "one's"

You've only now chaged your "parameter" to "on the net".

not really I have always said in the porper place, which is mostly on
the net

"proper"

However lying is lying.

And that remains the same today. Nothing's changed.

indeed nothing including my legl safety

nobodys old friend wrote:
to all those persons believ spouting the bull#### that teaching one
kids to lie on the net is child abuse I off ther following Numbers

"believe" "one's" "offer" "the"

the Michigan Child abuse Hotline
1-800-942-4357

it is my understanding that the above number may only be usable the
residenet of Michigan

"residents"

You understand very little. That sentence had more holes in it
than the Bismark.

so I also provide the following for the local office of the state
agentcy in question

1-906-353-4700

"agency"

this will connect you with the Family Independence agency for Houghton
Baraga and Keweenaw Counties

In some states is is a crime to falsely report child abuse, I do not
know wether it is or is not a crime in Michigan

"whether" "it is", not "is is"

To falsely report ANY act agaist children is a crime in all
states, Mark. Including YOUR state of mind.

no it is not Stevie In Indiania any report of child abuse can be legaly
can be made legaly

"Legally"

Re-read that sentence, you flaming idiot, and then you will
understand why I laugh at you all the time!

Mark...I said "To FALSELY (my emphasis) report ANY act against
children is a crime in all states, Mark."

no it is not

In Michigan is not a crime to falsely report elder abuse, as I checked
on when I had to deal with that false report

Yes, Mark, it is a crime.

not according to the State of Michigan

You were either too stupid to understand what was being said, or
you were lied to...

now you are accusing the State of Michigian of lying to me

i was told that even if the person who made the report could be
identified the laws of the State sheild him from any prosecution

I also know that you can make an anouomous report if you like, as
someone did some time back claiming I was abusing my father. From that
incident I know the law requires abuse claims to be investagted within
24 hours but that in practical term it sometimes takes a bit longer

"anonymous"

So NOW I know why they replied "we cannot comment on on-going
investigations" and "your report will be passed to the officer involved
in this case".

Note I quote "...in this case".

nothing specail they say that always see further comments below

"special"

Obviously there was NO case as far as I KNEW..Someone slipped and
let the cat out of the bag and Mark obligingly verified it for me that
I was NOT the FIRST to approach the authorities in Michigan!

maybe not

No "maybe" to it, Mark!


Yes Maybe Stevie what you quoted sounded like the standard broilerplate
given out about any inquiry. Indeed I am certain if I contacted the
Sate of Tenn about wether you have been reported for child abuse,
mental health, drunk driving or most anything else before it becomes a
matter of public record by charges being filed they would answer in
much the same manner

Obviously you ARE the nutcase I believe
you to be!

that someone has reported me me as a nutcase does not make me a
nutcase. I know of at least one report claiming I was nut case (and an
elder abuser) becuase I claimed " that the world was not going to end
in gay were allowed to marry" in a letter the editor

Someone else has been there before me!

indeed many people have

for daring to take public stands on issues over the years I have been
reported for many things

If you think that the simple act of publically expressing an
opinion got you to where youa re today, you're even more deluded than I
surmised.

simple acts. why can't you get tenses and number right Stevie?

if you had asked I would have confirmed it for you

I have asked.

No you never asked if I had been reported for mental health.


You've denied it before.

I have never denied being reported. I have denied being comitted. I
have denied fleeing from the authoriies. I have denie things around
that issue but you never asked the question


But then you ALSO claimed
to be a Colonel in the United States Army, too.....

after you made, what was IMO a clear threat to kill me

those taking political stand in this "free" country have for years been
the targets of effort

It's got nothing to do with your "political" views.

it has everything to do with them


It's got EVERY thing to do with your being a two-legged bag of
fruit loops.

absolutely not a two legged bag of fruit loops although it might be
amusing to see such a sight


So if you think I am abusing some child report, as you should if you
truly believe that crap, otherwise I ask that you drop it.

No one said you're "abusing some child report"...Hey, take that
piece of paper out back, tape it to a tree, and plink at it all day
long for all I care! Abuse all the reports you care to!

Of course I lack the power to enforce my wishes but I make them known

You only lack the power to "enforce" your wishes when you do
nothing to make them happen.

more bull#### Stevie nothing I can realy do to stop your harrasment, at
least not without breaking the law

"really"

What harrassment?

you stalking and threatening trying to contact everyone I might know
IOW your standard SOP


You mean making fun of your silliness and repeatedly proving you
to be the fool that you are?

THAT is a consequence of YOUR doings, Mark. Nothing I do or say
here to or about you could happen without your tacit support.

another lie from Stevie

I have not supprted in your stupid assertions about mental health or
child abuse

but then I forgot nothing Stevie does is Stevies responiblity, he is
just the helpless pawn of everyone around him.

You sound Hilter et. al. claiming the jews are against him

You have expressed a "wish" to be an HF-licensed Amateur...The
ONLY thing holding you back is YOU!

not at all My publicaly stated estimate says I will achive that goal on
or about 1 APR 2006

"publically"

My publically stated estimate says that no matter when or how you
"upgrade" to HF in the Amateur Radio service, you'll still be a liar
and a deviant.

so what?

Mark...you were a pitiful little dweeb of a human BEFORE you made
this "invitation", and now you look all the more idiotic and paranoid
for it. Add that to your fractured, ill-conceived narrative and you
look more and more like you're in need of confined, definitive care.

well simply tried of the threat and bull####

"tired"

What threats?

your threats as outlined many times

And if you're tired of the BS, stop promulgating it.

I am not the one doing so you are

but again if you think I am abusing a child make a report. It will the
half dozen or so reports that I know about, let alone the ones that
never rose to a level that anyone bothered with

This get's funnier by the minute!

what is funny about child abuse Stevie?

or about your threats to waste the time and money of the taxpayers of
Michigan


They will be much more impressed if you show up voluntarilly and
ask for help, rather than have to drag you off kicking and screaming.

show up and say "Stevie says I should report myself for child abuse
becuase I think kids should be taught to always lie in public forums on
the internet, and in certain other condictions as well"

No.

Show up and admit that you are a pathological liar, that you are a
predator and a social services parasite.

But I am not a pathological lair, or any kind of predator and certainly
not a parasite of Socail services

OTOH yeah I can see it walking up to them and saying, "pathological
liar, that you are a predator and a social services parasite." Id be
laughed out of the office.

mental health is only interested in By legal mandate, drug porblems
(including acholl) current domestic abuse people in crisis, so even if
I were to use your words "pathological liar, that you are a predator
and a social services parasite" I would be unable by law to be assisted

being that stupid is about the only thing I could do that might get me
comitted

Well, Mark, you ARE that stupid.

obviously not

BTW I realy don't care about impressing figures of authority. I would
have thought you'd learned that by now

"really"

It's not about impressing anyone, Mark. It's about you seeking
help.

then yu were lying when said "They will be much more impressed if you
show up voluntarilly and ask for help" and used the word impresed

Do it now. Do it for your own good.

try it yourself

I don't need it. You do.

not at all

but you need it, what you realy need is learn something about the world
that you wander around in such a willfully blind state

Steve, KY4Z

KY4Z wrote:
an old friend wrote:
KY4Z wrote:
Starting from the title:
cut
if you had asked I would have confirmed it for you

I have asked.

I realy don't recal you ever asking for a catalog of the complaints
that have been filed against me over the years

Indeed I dod not know the full list since I am sure many of them have
never been reported to me

a partial list since you seem to be asking

early 90's it was reported that I had some kids over to the house in
order to use them as child scrafices at Beltane, IL DCFS investagted
becuase they had to I put them in contact with the chilrens family they
Mom dad and the kids had come visiting

varoious charges madeboiling down to since I was (and am )bisexual I
must also be a pedophile I realy don't know know many times I have seen
this varraint over the year more than 20 that I have been aware of

early this was accused of elder abuse no one ever said how I was
suppoed to be abusing my old man

late 90's someone (maybe you?) reporting that my aphasia symtoms were
proof I was at risk of suicide. I have seen many varriants of these
charges over the years

was reffered to the Army mental health systme since the CO found taht I
must be "pycho" since after a truely absurd day I sat down in my office
and allowed myself a good cry. that was kind fun ended getting 2 hours
away from the unit twice a week till the old CO left and the new one
took over(maybe 3-4 weeks), we had fun with ink blots and the rest. was
a restfull time

was again reffered to the army mental health system as my wife decided
to leave me, it was helpful and again got me away from the mindnumbing
experence that day to day life in the active army was for me

in my early teens was refffered by the school for eval by the specail
ed teacher who was also giveing me morse exams for through eval of LD
issues, result the dianosis of Dyslexia and the Dylesoid aphasia, and
the beginging of the specail ed dept efforts to try and cram enough
Morse Code into my head to pass the dammed test, they were not
sucfessull, at this point in my life I was still fool enough to be very
honest I should have allowed it when I was offered a faked morse code
passing grade

but this is only a partial list Stevie One I don't bother remeber any
one right now. Two becuase I am pretty sure a number of such charges
were made, filed and forgotten with out a word to me

you accused me of paranoia wrt Social Services. that was and remains a
load of ****. I would ahve to fear them for it to be paranoia. I have
nothing but contempt for them. any one that follows the news and hear
how in capple these agencies are at there mission (by seeing the
reports fo stuff they have allowed to go on for year) should also hold
them in distain, IMO

Since I laid down this gualtlet only you and ole whinnyslit (who may
well be you as well, I don't know or much care) dare to continue such a
line

nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

(UNSNIP)...result the dianosis of Dyslexia and the Dylesoid aphasia

"diagnosis"

Mark, if you're going to seek sympathy for yourself with various
maladies, pick maladies that really exist.

There is no such thing as "Dylesoid aphasia". Not even close to a
real "diagnosis".

and
the beginging of the specail ed dept efforts to try and cram enough
Morse Code into my head to pass the dammed test, they were not
sucfessull, at this point in my life I was still fool enough to be very
honest I should have allowed it when I was offered a faked morse code
passing grade

Too many typos to mention.

I rate this one just below the "I am a drafted Colonel" story...

but this is only a partial list Stevie One I don't bother remeber any
one right now. Two becuase I am pretty sure a number of such charges
were made, filed and forgotten with out a word to me

They are never "forgotten".

you accused me of paranoia wrt Social Services. that was and remains a
load of ####.

Nope.

But if it let's you sleep better, go right on ahead thinking it
is, Mark.

I would ahve to fear them for it to be paranoia. I have
nothing but contempt for them. any one that follows the news and hear
how in capple these agencies are at there mission (by seeing the
reports fo stuff they have allowed to go on for year) should also hold
them in distain, IMO

"disdain", among others.

I can tell you this, Mark...THEY hold someone in "disdain"
themselves...A legal system that allows certain folks to continue to
rack up "charges" yet not face the legal system until something REALLY
bad happens.

Since I laid down this gualtlet only you and ole whinnyslit (who may
well be you as well, I don't know or much care) dare to continue such a
line

WTF is a "gualtlet"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ