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Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 14 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2573 600 Indeterminate (note 1) 162 52 Value for Percentages 2411 548 Against NPRM (note 2) 727 [30.15%] 172 [31.39%] For NPRM (note 3) 1317 [54.62%] 283 [51.64%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 367 [15.22%] 93 [16.97%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 17 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2582 609 Indeterminate (note 1) 162 52 Value for Percentages 2420 557 Against NPRM (note 2) 730 [30.17%] 175 [31.42%] For NPRM (note 3) 1323 [54.67%] 289 [51.89%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 367 [15.16%] 93 [16.70%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 17 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2582 609 Indeterminate (note 1) 162 52 Value for Percentages 2420 557 Against NPRM (note 2) 730 [30.17%] 175 [31.42%] For NPRM (note 3) 1323 [54.67%] 289 [51.89%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 367 [15.16%] 93 [16.70%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 17 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2595 622 Indeterminate (note 1) 165 55 Value for Percentages 2430 567 Against NPRM (note 2) 731 [30.08%] 176 [31.04%] For NPRM (note 3) 1328 [54.65%] 294 [51.85%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 371 [15.27%] 97 [17.11%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 18 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2606 633 Indeterminate (note 1) 169 59 Value for Percentages 2437 574 Against NPRM (note 2) 735 [30.16%] 180 [31.36%] For NPRM (note 3) 1330 [54.58%] 296 [51.57%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 372 [15.26%] 98 [17.07%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 19 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2612 639 Indeterminate (note 1) 170 60 Value for Percentages 2442 579 Against NPRM (note 2) 737 [30.18%] 182 [31.43%] For NPRM (note 3) 1331 [54.50%] 297 [51.30%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 374 [15.32%] 100 [17.27%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 20 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2634 658 Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60 Value for Percentages 2463 598 Against NPRM (note 2) 746 [30.29%] 191 [31.94%] For NPRM (note 3) 1339 [54.36%] 303 [51.67%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 378 [15.35%] 104 [17.39%] This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 3 PM EDT 21 Oct 05. Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
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Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
grow up
either accept the number or do your own count wrote: wrote: Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143: "Amateur Opinions"? Does that mean only the opinions of licensed radio amateurs are considered in the totals? As of 20 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2634 658 Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60 Value for Percentages 2463 598 Against NPRM (note 2) 746 [30.29%] 191 [31.94%] For NPRM (note 3) 1339 [54.36%] 303 [51.67%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 378 [15.35%] 104 [17.39%] This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 3 PM EDT 21 Oct 05. Notes: It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, Why isn't that known? Does anyone think FCC would put comments in their database, yet not consider them? 1. Includes duplicate postings "Postings"? Aren't they called "comments"? from same individual, If an individual submits multiple but different comments, are they all counted, or just one? Are Reply Comments counted? If an individual submits both Comments and Reply Comments, are they all counted, or just one? "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, How is an address determined to be valid? or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, Citizenship is not a requirement for an FCC amateur radio license. Neither is resident status. Yet all licensees are subject to FCC regulations. Why shouldn't the comments of prospective licensees be counted just because they're not citizens? and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. Such as? 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. Well, that's pretty clear. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." Why? It's not a comment. 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. There's only one other class that requires a code test. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. The future of amateur radio is always being made - by those who are part of it. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
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Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote:
wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Are you saying that I should just shut up and not ask questions? it is his count so he makes the rules he will use I'm just asking for explanations of those rules. again and again and again Len is under no obligation to answer your questions of anyone else if he chooses not Is that not allowed? apeartly len chooses to exercise his right to state by his refusal to answer to make exactly that determination It is his count, his rules, and he is NOT accountable to you, or me or even the FCC or Father Chrismass for that matter Is it somehow not "grown up" to ask questions about what those rules are? what you are doing, by going on and one about is interfere with others find the results of his work cut out of mercy to us all now grow up and take a hint he isn't going to answer you _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Are you saying that I should just shut up and not ask questions? Sure looks like it. it is his count so he makes the rules he will use I'm just asking for explanations of those rules. again and again and again Is there a limit? I've only asked most of the questions once. Len is under no obligation to answer your questions of anyone else if he chooses not That's right. But if he ignores questions on how his numbers were derived, why should we accept those numbers as valid? Len isn't the only one counting the comments, btw. Is that not allowed? apeartly len chooses to exercise his right to state by his refusal to answer to make exactly that determination ?? Are you saying that if Len doesn't answer questions, then I don't have the right to ask questions? That's totally bogus. It is his count, his rules, and he is NOT accountable to you, or me or even the FCC or Father Chrismass for that matter I'm just asking for an explanation of some of his "rules". Like whether a comment by a group or club is counted as one or more than one comment. Is it somehow not "grown up" to ask questions about what those rules are? what you are doing, by going on and one about is interfere with others find the results of his work How am I interfering in any way? cut out of mercy to us all You don't have to read my posts, Mark. Nor respond to them. now grow up and take a hint he isn't going to answer you He answers all right - with his typical jackass behavior. At great length, too, all the while avoiding the real issues. Do you consider that behavior to be "grown up"? But all that's OK with you, yet my questions aren't. You're saying that Len has freedom of speech here, but I don't. Think about it. |
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On 22 Oct 2005 05:51:41 -0700, wrote:
wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? no but he does npt have to answer any questions cut Len is under no obligation to answer your questions of anyone else if he chooses not That's right. But if he ignores questions on how his numbers were derived, why should we accept those numbers as valid? then don't accept them as valid Len isn't the only one counting the comments, btw. Is that not allowed? apeartly len chooses to exercise his right to state by his refusal to answer to make exactly that determination ?? Are you saying that if Len doesn't answer questions, then I don't have the right to ask questions? never siad you lacked the right That's totally bogus. your effort to imply someone is doing something imporper is totalay bogus you distortion of a plea to stop asking question that is is clear are not going to be answered as someone tryin gto intfer with your ight is totaly bogus cut You're saying that Len has freedom of speech here, but I don't. liar I am excercising My rights to tell I think you are trying to infringe on Lens right (and now mine as well) to engage in legal actvities by harrasment you are not in any way a victum of censorhsip Think about it. _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 21 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2641 665 Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60 Value for Percentages 2470 605 Against NPRM (note 2) 748 [30.28%] 193 [31.90%] For NPRM (note 3) 1341 [54.29%] 305 [50.41%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 381 [15.43%] 107 [17.69%] This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 1 PM EDT 22 Oct 05. Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard on WT Docket 05-235
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote: wrote: wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own Ya notice that too, Jim? - Mike KB3EIA - _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. Ya notice that too, Jim? - Mike KB3EIA - |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own So I guess what you are saying is that your cause is so righteous that you are justified in squelching the other side? - Mike KB3EIA - |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:41:58 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: cutns? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own So I guess what you are saying is that your cause is so righteous that you are justified in squelching the other side? no effort to squech it has been made. he has the right to ignore me if he likes, as do you of course, and I have the right to tell to shut up and stoping acting like High Inqusitor or impling that Len is doing something imporper in reading and counting as he sees fit How many hunderd question does Jim need to ask before he reconizes that Len is not required to answer him or when wil Jim realize there has not been a grand inquistitor apponointed eith for Ham radio or RRAP - Mike KB3EIA - _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:41:58 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: cutns? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own So I guess what you are saying is that your cause is so righteous that you are justified in squelching the other side? no effort to squech it has been made. he has the right to ignore me if he likes, as do you of course, and I have the right to tell to shut up and stoping acting like High Inqusitor or impling that Len is doing something imporper in reading and counting as he sees fit How many hunderd question does Jim need to ask before he reconizes that Len is not required to answer him or when wil Jim realize there has not been a grand inquistitor apponointed eith for Ham radio or RRAP People that tell other people to shut up are acting like grand inquisitors. wrong again Inquistors intoragte they want the target to talk learn english A lot of people on the no-code side don;t like Jim because he generally keeps his cool, and puts forth pretty good arguments. wrong again we don't like Jim becuase he beats daed horses into unreconizable plup and then gooes right on beating them he does keep his cool beter than say Stevie (but then so does an active volcano) Jim is the best on his side but he goes to far in making aever post a recitation of 50-100 years of history, told from his point of view only - Mike KB3EIA - |
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Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote: wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. Some are. Others aren't. Same for NCTAs. Plenty of good and bad examples on both sides. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. I think it's a lot more accurate to cite specific instances and individuals rather than make sweeping generalizations. For example, there's Len's classic "feldwebel post", where he told K8MN to "shut the hell up". Now Mark is saying that I should either do my own analysis of the comments or shut up, rather than ask any questions about Len's count. Are any of my questions about Len's 'scorecard' unreasonable? Ya notice that too, Jim? I notice that Mark objects to my questions about Len's 'scorecard', but has no complaints about Len's behavior here. Or his own... 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On 22 Oct 2005 17:28:18 -0700, wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. Some are. Others aren't. Same for NCTAs. Plenty of good and bad examples on both sides. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. I think it's a lot more accurate to cite specific instances and individuals rather than make sweeping generalizations. For example, there's Len's classic "feldwebel post", where he told K8MN to "shut the hell up". Now Mark is saying that I should either do my own analysis of the comments or shut up, rather than ask any questions about Len's count. i ask you to stop beat a dead horse Are any of my questions about Len's 'scorecard' unreasonable? yes all of them and it is unreasonable to ask the volume of them Ya notice that too, Jim? I notice that Mark objects to my questions about Len's 'scorecard', but has no complaints about Len's behavior here. you have not been reading evry closely I offer my rebukes to Len and Brain and Farnk even Bill Sohl it is logical to expcet that I am going to agree more with folks that hold my own views the more views we have in common the less likely we are to disagree Or his own... 73 de Jim, N2EY _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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Everyone is wrong...wrong wrong again...Except the jerkoff Markie. Damn
boy, wake up and smell the roses. Dan/W4NTI "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:41:58 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: cutns? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own So I guess what you are saying is that your cause is so righteous that you are justified in squelching the other side? no effort to squech it has been made. he has the right to ignore me if he likes, as do you of course, and I have the right to tell to shut up and stoping acting like High Inqusitor or impling that Len is doing something imporper in reading and counting as he sees fit How many hunderd question does Jim need to ask before he reconizes that Len is not required to answer him or when wil Jim realize there has not been a grand inquistitor apponointed eith for Ham radio or RRAP People that tell other people to shut up are acting like grand inquisitors. wrong again Inquistors intoragte they want the target to talk learn english A lot of people on the no-code side don;t like Jim because he generally keeps his cool, and puts forth pretty good arguments. wrong again we don't like Jim becuase he beats daed horses into unreconizable plup and then gooes right on beating them he does keep his cool beter than say Stevie (but then so does an active volcano) Jim is the best on his side but he goes to far in making aever post a recitation of 50-100 years of history, told from his point of view only - Mike KB3EIA - |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:37:17 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote: Everyone is wrong...wrong wrong again...Except the jerkoff Markie. Damn boy, wake up and smell the roses. when someome lies about what I said I call em you too if needed and you are a self confessed hate filled bigot who claims anyone he does like saying the same things as he does hates Ham radio Dan/W4NTI but then you are such an easy target _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrong wrong....every body is wrong except me me Im right....your
wrong...I'm right. Markie the moron wrote in message ... On 22 Oct 2005 17:28:18 -0700, wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: On 21 Oct 2005 20:05:26 -0700, wrote: wrote: grow up What does that mean in this context? in this context it means either do your own countor shut up Why? Is Len's count somehow sacred, and not open to any questions? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. Some are. Others aren't. Same for NCTAs. Plenty of good and bad examples on both sides. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. I think it's a lot more accurate to cite specific instances and individuals rather than make sweeping generalizations. For example, there's Len's classic "feldwebel post", where he told K8MN to "shut the hell up". Now Mark is saying that I should either do my own analysis of the comments or shut up, rather than ask any questions about Len's count. i ask you to stop beat a dead horse Are any of my questions about Len's 'scorecard' unreasonable? yes all of them and it is unreasonable to ask the volume of them Ya notice that too, Jim? I notice that Mark objects to my questions about Len's 'scorecard', but has no complaints about Len's behavior here. you have not been reading evry closely I offer my rebukes to Len and Brain and Farnk even Bill Sohl it is logical to expcet that I am going to agree more with folks that hold my own views the more views we have in common the less likely we are to disagree Or his own... 73 de Jim, N2EY _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:39:46 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote: wrong wrong....every body is wrong except me me Im right....your wrong...I'm right. yea you say that a lot Dan it does not make it true when you say something it is ok someone else say the same thing they hate Ham radio _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:37:17 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote: Everyone is wrong...wrong wrong again...Except the jerkoff Markie. Damn boy, wake up and smell the roses. when someome lies about what I said I call em you too if needed and you are a self confessed hate filled bigot who claims anyone he does like saying the same things as he does hates Ham radio Dan/W4NTI but then you are such an easy target I don't run around on a DAILY BASIS and ROUTINLY accuse people of being liars, bigots, hate mongers, etc. Oh and tell the FBI to go find Kennedy's killer. Do something useful. BWAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAaa Dan/W4NTI |
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:37:17 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote: Everyone is wrong...wrong wrong again...Except the jerkoff Markie. Damn boy, wake up and smell the roses. when someome lies about what I said I call em you too if needed and you are a self confessed hate filled bigot who claims anyone he does like saying the same things as he does hates Ham radio Dan/W4NTI but then you are such an easy target I don't run around on a DAILY BASIS and ROUTINLY accuse people of being liars, bigots, hate mongers, etc. Oh and tell the FBI to go find Kennedy's killer. Do something useful. BWAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAaa Dan/W4NTI He offered the FBI head. |
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Steveo wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:37:17 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote: Everyone is wrong...wrong wrong again...Except the jerkoff Markie. Damn boy, wake up and smell the roses. when someome lies about what I said I call em you too if needed and you are a self confessed hate filled bigot who claims anyone he does like saying the same things as he does hates Ham radio Dan/W4NTI but then you are such an easy target I don't run around on a DAILY BASIS and ROUTINLY accuse people of being liars, bigots, hate mongers, etc. Oh and tell the FBI to go find Kennedy's killer. Do something useful. BWAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAaa Dan/W4NTI He offered the FBI head. guess you missed it the agent is female |
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if Marky was on the grassy knoll?????
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Word on the street is he's not that good. (Not that I'm into such
things, I'd rather have say, Tara Reid do me) Maybe that's why he's advertizing for lovers. |
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Guess your lie has exposed you again.
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Mike Coslo wrote in
: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:41:58 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: cutns? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own So I guess what you are saying is that your cause is so righteous that you are justified in squelching the other side? no effort to squech it has been made. he has the right to ignore me if he likes, as do you of course, and I have the right to tell to shut up and stoping acting like High Inqusitor or impling that Len is doing something imporper in reading and counting as he sees fit How many hunderd question does Jim need to ask before he reconizes that Len is not required to answer him or when wil Jim realize there has not been a grand inquistitor apponointed eith for Ham radio or RRAP People that tell other people to shut up are acting like grand inquisitors. A lot of people on the no-code side don;t like Jim because he generally keeps his cool, and puts forth pretty good arguments. - Mike KB3EIA - On the contrary, I like Jim because he is rational and polite. I don't have to agree with him, though. He did raise a valid point about citizenship, i.e. it is irrelevant, but I raised this point myself with Len before and didn't get an answer. Any way you look at it though, more than half the comments are in favour of the NPRM and less than a third against, the rest being divided into those who want a code test retained for the Extra and those who otherwise fall in the middle ground. The FCC will have no problem deciding that they have a mandate to abolish Element 1 based on the comments. So we are all just waiting for the other shoe to drop. 73 de Alun, N3KIP |
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
.. . : Any way you look at it though, more than half the comments are in favour of : the NPRM and less than a third against, Not in fact is it ANY WAY (every way) you look at it. If Lenards tally is accurate, your issue seems almost exactly an even race since the official Federal Register publication of the NRPM with 50.41% in favor or dropping Morse and 49.59% in sympathy to retain at least some Morse examination. Based on your presidents election experience you should exam for perhaps hanging chads in some preceints in Florida. BGO -- "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." - Voltaire |
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Alun L. Palmer wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in : wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:41:58 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: wrote: cutns? Strange. I read about the PCTA's being ill mannered and rude. I do find in practice however, that the NCTA's and interested others are the ones telling people to keep their mouth shut. yea we advocate against harrassment one of the worst forms of rudeness Procders complain that other excercising there free speech is somehow infringing on their own So I guess what you are saying is that your cause is so righteous that you are justified in squelching the other side? no effort to squech it has been made. he has the right to ignore me if he likes, as do you of course, and I have the right to tell to shut up and stoping acting like High Inqusitor or impling that Len is doing something imporper in reading and counting as he sees fit How many hunderd question does Jim need to ask before he reconizes that Len is not required to answer him or when wil Jim realize there has not been a grand inquistitor apponointed eith for Ham radio or RRAP People that tell other people to shut up are acting like grand inquisitors. A lot of people on the no-code side don;t like Jim because he generally keeps his cool, and puts forth pretty good arguments. - Mike KB3EIA - On the contrary, I like Jim because he is rational and polite. Thanks, Alun! I don't have to agree with him, though. Of course not. He did raise a valid point about citizenship, i.e. it is irrelevant, but I raised this point myself with Len before and didn't get an answer. FCC doesn't exclude noncitizens, so why should a count of the comments exclude them? A noncitizen can get an FCC license, but has to take the same tests as a citizen, so why shouldn't their comments be counted? Len has a proven track record of mistakes here, particularly in the area of FCC regulations, so it's not unreasonable to ask about how his numbers are compiled and how they are checked. Any way you look at it though, more than half the comments are in favour of the NPRM and less than a third against, the rest being divided into those who want a code test retained for the Extra and those who otherwise fall in the middle ground. I disagree! The NPRM proposes to eliminate *all* Morse Code testing for an amateur license. Someone who supports the NPRM must, by definition, support the removal of *all* code testing, not just some of it. Otherwise they are opposed to the NPRM. The detail of whether they support the current level of Morse Code testing, or whether they support a reduction but not complete elimination, does not change the fact that they are opposed to the NPRM as it stands. The FCC will have no problem deciding that they have a mandate to abolish Element 1 based on the comments. Perhaps - but recall that FCC is not required to follow the majority opinion. They did not follow majority opinion in 1999 either... More important to the discussion of 'scorecards' is the accuracy of the count. At present, Len's 'scorecard' is made up of about 2500 comments that pass some vaguely defined tests of validity. With a base of 2500 comments, a single comment represents .04% of the total, and 25 comments represent 1% of the total. With the totals being so close, it would not take a lot of mistakes to change the apparent majority. Showing the apparent results to four significant figures may give the illusion of accuracy to some, but in fact there's a pretty big range of interpretation to those numbers. For example, if one person submits multiple comments that are somewhat different from each other (but all from the same person), are they all counted, or just one? If one person submits comments and reply comments (but all from the same person), are they all counted, or just one? If a club or organization comments, does that count as one comment or multiple comments? If a single comment has multiple signatures, does it count as one comment or does the number of signatures come into play? You can see that depending on how the above questions are answered, and rules are applied, the results can be far different. So we are all just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Probably. FCC may simply be responding to the fact that if they don't drop Element 1, the petitions and proposals will continue, making more work for them, but no more resources. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 21 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2645 669 Indeterminate (note 1) 172 61 Value for Percentages 2473 608 Against NPRM (note 2) 750 [30.33%] 195 [32.07%] For NPRM (note 3) 1342 [54.27%] 306 [50.33%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 381 [15.41%] 107 [17.60%] This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 1 PM EDT 24 Oct 05. Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Totals less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
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From: on Oct 24, 3:39 am
Alun L. Palmer wrote: Mike Coslo wrote in wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:41:58 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:24 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: no effort to squech it has been made. Tsk, tsk...LOTS of "squelching" has been ATTEMPTED. :-) Case in point: All these allegations of "honesty" and FALSE charges of an inordinate number of "mistakes." Nice MISDIRECTION away from the NPRM. :-) he has the right to ignore me if he likes, as do you of course, and I have the right to tell to shut up and stoping acting like High Inqusitor or impling that Len is doing something imporper in reading and counting as he sees fit Mark, simply Being Here and Being NOT for morse code is "improper" and "incorrect!" :-) How many hunderd question does Jim need to ask before he reconizes that Len is not required to answer him Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is a Radio god in here and can act/do/write whatever he wants to and that WILL be "correct" (because that is his opinion and anything against it is "wrong"). Disagreement with him is "wrong," thus "validating" his false charges of "mistakes." :-) A lot of people on the no-code side don;t like Jim because he generally keeps his cool, and puts forth pretty good arguments. Tsk, tsk, writing nastygrams about the "docket scorecard" a half hour after midnight (local) means something has been "eating him" and causing loss of sleep. :-) On the contrary, I like Jim because he is rational and polite. Thanks, Alun! Jim is always right. He must be because he says so...those against his opinions are "wrong." :-) When it comes to one-sided opinions in favor of code testing, he gets upset and irrational. shrug He did raise a valid point about citizenship, i.e. it is irrelevant, but I raised this point myself with Len before and didn't get an answer. I thought I answered that. :-) I'll have to get busy and find out every other government administrations' Elections so that I can go vote on those issues...if I don't need to be a citizen there. :-) Last I saw, United States citizens voted on, expressed opinions on United States laws, regulations, rules. As far as I've seen so far, Title 47 C.F.R. applies ONLY to United States citizens on United States soil. FCC doesn't exclude noncitizens, so why should a count of the comments exclude them? A noncitizen can get an FCC license, but has to take the same tests as a citizen, so why shouldn't their comments be counted? By INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT, the United States allows non- citizens to be granted United States radio operator licenses. Do NON-citizens vote on United States laws, regulations, rules? Doing a voluntary examination of an on-going WT Docket and reporting what I found is hardly "telling the FCC or anyone in here" "what to do." Tsk, tsk. Since this is a private all-voluntary "score card," the one doing the READING of ALL filings is allowed to set the conditions. :-) Those conditions have been FULLY EXPLAINED in each "score card" I've posted...since the end of July, 2005. Why is there some kind of "dispute" NOW rather than in the past two months? As far as the "Indeterminate" column of my scoring, the notes explain what was done. At issue in WT Docket 05-235 is just whether or not NPRM 05-143 should be made into an R&O or not. NPRM 05-143 is NOT some comprehensive all-inclusive Remake of Part 97 as in the "Restructuring" of '98-'99. It is just about morse code testing, whether it should stay or go...in USA amateur radio regulations. Other than the non-specific "Indeterminate" opinions, there are only three others: FOR the NPRM, AGAINST the removal of code testing, and retention of code testing ONLY for the Amateur Extra class. Perhaps that is just too difficult to grasp? What IS difficult to grasp - by the PCTA - is that the NCTA are no longer a minority. In fact, many PCTA just cannot believe that radio hobbyists cannot love, honor, and obey the cherished Belief that morse code testing is "necessary." Len has a proven track record of mistakes here, particularly in the area of FCC regulations, so it's not unreasonable to ask about how his numbers are compiled and how they are checked. "Proven track record?!?" :-) Is that what is called "politeness" and "civility?" In here I guess so... :-) The way to "check" my numbers is to GO AND READ ALL THE COMMENTS-FILINGS ON WT DOCKET 05-235 AND DO YOUR OWN TALLIES OF OPINIONS. Jimmie has NOT even made ONE filing on WT Docket 05-235. Jimmie has NOT stated he has READ a single filing on 05-235. Jimmie has spent a LOT of time and effort trying his best to obscure and misdirect the NPRM "scorecard" results by all these "challenges" and FALSE statements about my previous alleged "inaccuracies." Hey, it's a neat trick to try and sway public opinion in this computer-modem kind of communications. Done well enough, constant repetition of FALSE charges will make some folks believe that a person is "highly inaccurate." :-) The NPRM proposes to eliminate *all* Morse Code testing for an amateur license. Someone who supports the NPRM must, by definition, support the removal of *all* code testing, not just some of it. Otherwise they are opposed to the NPRM. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nothing in ANY NPRM is so sacrosanct as to demand absolute obediance to the NOTICE of PROPOSED RULE MAKING. Had Jimmie seen other NPRMs and the resulting R&Os, he would understand that. Obviously, he has NOT. The detail of whether they support the current level of Morse Code testing, or whether they support a reduction but not complete elimination, does not change the fact that they are opposed to the NPRM as it stands. SPIN, SPIN, SPIN. :-) Tsk, the purpose of a COMMENT period is to allow CITIZENS to make their desires known to their government on a PROPOSED ruling. Those desires ARE now PUBLIC. 2,641 filings' worth. Miccolis has NOT read ALL of them, hasn't even made his own filing. I have read ALL of them...including the 19 more for 24 October 2005 (making 2,660 filings) which will be posted on 25 October (plus any additional the FCC wishes to add). So...where is the "score card" by James Miccolis? And...WHO will "check his work?" :-) Who checks Miccolis' "work" on his bi-monthly "license number" postings? [he won't say from where he cribs his numbers] The FCC will have no problem deciding that they have a mandate to abolish Element 1 based on the comments. Perhaps - but recall that FCC is not required to follow the majority opinion. They did not follow majority opinion in 1999 either... Tsk. Morse lovers are seeing the handwriting on the wall. Finally. Wow, news flash, morse code testing is NOT favored by a majority! [sunnuvagun!] The ARRL represents a distinct MINORITY of all USA amateur radio licensees. A mere 20%. Yet, on any other issue, What The ARRL Says is some kind of "truth" about amateur radio...anyone against that will get all sorts of nastygram grief from ARRL Believers!!! More important to the discussion of 'scorecards' is the accuracy of the count. At present, Len's 'scorecard' is made up of about 2500 comments that pass some vaguely defined tests of validity. "Vaguely defined tests of validity?!?" 2,645 filings for the period 15 July 2005 to 22 October 2005. Miccolis is IN ERROR...it was NOT "2500." Tsk, tsk. With such ERRORS, Miccolis is establishing a "PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF MISTAKES!!!" :-) "Vaguely defined?" The Notes in my "score card" postings explain it, well past "vague" judgements by PCTA Miccolis. With a base of 2500 comments, a single comment represents .04% of the total, and 25 comments represent 1% of the total. With the totals being so close, it would not take a lot of mistakes to change the apparent majority. Tsk, tsk, tsk...PCTA Miccolis has NOT CHECKED THE WORK! Showing the apparent results to four significant figures may give the illusion of accuracy to some, but in fact there's a pretty big range of interpretation to those numbers. Only in the "Indeterminates." Many of THOSE are so vaguely comprehensible that it would take an extreme favoritsm to one side or the other to put them in an "un-ambiguous" category. READ THEM AND SEE. "Illusion of accuracy?" :-) With over a thousand filings judged into four categories, four-place accuracy was thought needed to trends, changes, closeness-of-differing-opinions and so forth. That is insufficient for the highly judgemental (and rather disturbed by revelations) James Miccolis. He wants "the work checked" by another PCTA...possibly to show the "true light of the efficacy and necessity of morse code testing?" PCTA James Miccolis has NOT made any filing whatsoever as of midnight, 22 October 2005. He has NO indication of READING ANY of the 2,641 filings (except the first one, maybe) on WT Docket 05-235. Then he "challenges" me to "show the work" as if he is some kind of "authority" on what should be posted in here! Magnificent performance! [of petulant spite] For example, if one person submits multiple comments that are somewhat different from each other (but all from the same person), are they all counted, or just one? That has been EXPLAINED. Duplicates are put into the Indeterminate category. There are TWO flagrant violators of that, one for, one against the NPRM. Can Miccolis NAME those two? I can. But, I've READ all 2,641 filings made up to midnight, 22 October 2005. If one person submits comments and reply comments (but all from the same person), are they all counted, or just one? More necro-equine flagellation. :-) If a club or organization comments, does that count as one comment or multiple comments? Sigh...:-) So far, ONE club has filed (but not given any list of members). Editor Moseson of CQ has filed...does PCTA Miccolis demand that ALL SUBSCRIBERS TO CQ be counted also? :-) If a single comment has multiple signatures, does it count as one comment or does the number of signatures come into play? Which filing by whom and on what date has "multiple signatures?" Does Miccolis get multiple ligatures squirming around, trying to find a fresh spot on the dead horse? So far, Miccolis has NOT CHECKED MY WORK, probably has NOT READ ALL of the 2,641 filings to midnight, 22 October, 2005. He has NOT made his OWN filing by that date. You can see that depending on how the above questions are answered, and rules are applied, the results can be far different. What "rules" were "necessary" to be followed, Miccolis? Were they "published" prior to 15 July 2005? Did you "define what should be done" by the end of August, 2005? [no, you did NOT] Did you "define what should be done" by the end of September, 2005? [no, you did NOT] Tsk, Miccolis must have become suddenly aware that there is NO majority favoring the retention of the morse code test in the United States' regulations for civil radio, Title 47 C.F.R., Part 97! [sunnuvagun!] Miccolis is seeing the "end of ham radio" (as HE knows it) when things are progressing ever onwards towards elimination the morse code test! Poor thing...he stays up late on Sunday night, even into Monday morning to vent his Grief and Upset at that! So we are all just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Probably. "Probably?" :-) It's UNAVOIDABLE. It WILL come about. The only question is when. The official end of Comments on WT Docket 05-235 is 31 October, 2005, a week from now. The official end of Replies to Comments is 14 November 2005. On WT Docket 98-143 the official end of the last extension of Comments was 15 January 1999. The final R&O on "Restructuring" wasn't released until the last week in December, 1999. That is roughly 10 months of decision-making...but on a LOT more issues than just morse code testing. James Miccolis wasn't IN the FCC in 1998, 1999, and he isn't IN the FCC in 2005. However, he KNOWS things and anyone who doesn't agree with this innate knowledge "makes mistakes!" FCC may simply be responding to the fact that if they don't drop Element 1, the petitions and proposals will continue, making more work for them, but no more resources. Tsk, tsk, tsk. If the decisions don't go YOUR way, then you can renounce the FCC as some sort of meaningless beaurocracy that doesn't serve the "public need," right? You ARE U.S. amateur radio, aren't you? [you sure sound like it] The FCC will take its time, make its decisions, the issue an R&O. They will do so WITHOUT having James Miccolis "check their work!" However, any decision arrived at WILL be fully explained in THEIR Report and Order and appropriate Commentors noted in references. So far, as of midnight, 22 October 2005 the FCC CANNOT cite any James Miccolis as a referencible Commentor...he has NOT even submitted any Comments on 05-235 as of that date! Jimmie, you can make all the FALSE and misdirected "questions" you wish about me. All I do is READ ALL the Comments and Replies to Comments on 05-235. The OPINIONS on what the FCC should do in its final R&O come from United States citizens. The FCC is bound by law and reputation to "serve the public interest." They seem to do a good job of that, despite what the losers on past decisions snarl about. Okay, you can try more misdirection and multiple postings and you are going to get the same replies from me. That doesn't affect the final R&O one iota. You've had all your amateur life to crow about the efficacy of morse code as a "necessary" part of licensing...and now you are seeing that all of that will soon be gone. You won't be able to crow much in the future...but you may have to EAT some... |
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