wrote:

The use of W5AMY in this thread is a forgery by KB9RQZ, a known
liar and cheat.

On 20 Oct 2005 02:56:21 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote:
more_stupid_than_an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend_lied_about_just_about_everything wrote:

And no matter how many times your "cut" or repeat THIS lie, will
it be true, Markie.

you are lying

Bandplans are not laws

And the FCC has stated that if you violate the bandplans, you may
be prosecuted for violation of Part 97.

of course Stevie is still lying about not making death threats after 7
years

I didn't lie and I didn't threaten your life.

you lied about bandplans = laws

you lie about your threats

Nope to neither.

I've not threatened you nor have I lied about bandplans being
enforced by law.

The FCC says we are required to implement both good engineering
practice in the establishment and operation of our stations, and we are
to implement "good amateur practice" in the establishment and operation
of our stations.

The FCC has said that compliance with bandplans establishes good
amateur practice.

Violation of that caveat will get you "violated".

Steve, K4YZ

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:

The use of W5AMY in this thread is a forgery by KB9RQZ, a known
liar and cheat.

On 20 Oct 2005 02:56:21 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote:
more_stupid_than_an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend_lied_about_just_about_everything wrote:

And no matter how many times your "cut" or repeat THIS lie, will
it be true, Markie.

you are lying

Bandplans are not laws

And the FCC has stated that if you violate the bandplans, you may
be prosecuted for violation of Part 97.

of course Stevie is still lying about not making death threats after 7
years

I didn't lie and I didn't threaten your life.

you lied about bandplans = laws

you lie about your threats

Nope to neither.

I've not threatened you nor have I lied about bandplans being
enforced by law.

The FCC says we are required to implement both good engineering
practice in the establishment and operation of our stations, and we are
to implement "good amateur practice" in the establishment and operation
of our stations.

The FCC has said that compliance with bandplans establishes good
amateur practice.

Violation of that caveat will get you "violated".

Steve, K4YZ


That's only partially true. One can "violate" the band plans and not
necessarily be considered a candidate for enforcement action. It generally
needs to be in combination with other factors. Afterall look at every
contest. In general, there are many operations in "violation" of the
bandplan. In voice contests, the operators do not stay out of the SSTV
segment. In CW contests, they do not stay out of the RTTY segment. RTTY
contestors spread out just like everyone else and do not stay in the RTTY
segment.

If a person makes sure the frequency is not in use and is legal by
regulation for that form of operation, they will not be penalized for not
following the band plan.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:

The use of W5AMY in this thread is a forgery by KB9RQZ, a known
liar and cheat.

On 20 Oct 2005 02:56:21 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote:
more_stupid_than_an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend_lied_about_just_about_everything wrote:

And no matter how many times your "cut" or repeat THIS lie, will
it be true, Markie.

you are lying

Bandplans are not laws

And the FCC has stated that if you violate the bandplans, you may
be prosecuted for violation of Part 97.

of course Stevie is still lying about not making death threats after 7
years

I didn't lie and I didn't threaten your life.

you lied about bandplans = laws

you lie about your threats

Nope to neither.

I've not threatened you nor have I lied about bandplans being
enforced by law.

The FCC says we are required to implement both good engineering
practice in the establishment and operation of our stations, and we are
to implement "good amateur practice" in the establishment and operation
of our stations.

The FCC has said that compliance with bandplans establishes good
amateur practice.

Violation of that caveat will get you "violated".

Steve, K4YZ


That's only partially true. One can "violate" the band plans and not
necessarily be considered a candidate for enforcement action. It generally
needs to be in combination with other factors. Afterall look at every
contest. In general, there are many operations in "violation" of the
bandplan. In voice contests, the operators do not stay out of the SSTV
segment. In CW contests, they do not stay out of the RTTY segment. RTTY
contestors spread out just like everyone else and do not stay in the RTTY
segment.

If a person makes sure the frequency is not in use and is legal by
regulation for that form of operation, they will not be penalized for not
following the band plan.

Absolutely correct, Dee...

It's just like speeding...Don't do it in a school zone or right in
front of a cop, and it's not likely to draw the ire of the cops...But
make a point of being an idiot about it, and you're going to get your
chops busted for it.

73

Steve, K4YZ

"K4YZ" wrote


Violation of that caveat will get you "violated".


Not often, even when it is cited, the violation has to be deliberate,
persistent, and outrageous.

Listen to the CW bands on any CW contest weekend, or the Phone bands on any
Phone contest weekend, and you'll find the bandplans exuberantly ignored by
hundreds of stations.

Look at the bandplan for 160M with a window 20kHz wide at 1830-1850 reserved for
intercontinental QSO's only. Just for ****s and grins I just tuned that segment
and found 6 NA-to-NA contacts ongoing. Do ya think they'll get tagged by Riley?

73, de Hans, K0HB