FAQ
 

Jock. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:23:37 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Jock." wrote in message
. ..

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:11:52 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


Another CB-er and potential F-class adherent.

(You can spot them the minute they put finger to keyboard).

Are you referring to me dear boy?


I am indeed, who else?


Now perhaps you could explain your remarkable assumption.
Perhaps its the bit where i dont pamper to the
"mighty Amateur holier than tho attitude"


Which particular mis-spelt, mis-punctuated part was
that?

At least this "holier-than-tho" amateur knows how to trim
and quote UseNet posts properly.


who knows, ill wait for your reply..


You'll wait a bloody long time then, I try not to cross-
post too much, particularly to anything that smells of
CB.


It sure gets those cbers like steveo, wogie, and frankieboy upset
though when you post to the children's band group.

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"The Magnum" wrote in message
...

Not difficult to deduce that you are a CB-er.

Why is that then.. is it because he has friends, his house isn't full of
bits of old crap and he doesnt stink of wee and biscuits??


In other words, a serving of Haggis ;)

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland

FAQ
 

"Jock." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:11:52 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:

Hold about a bit matey boy... Just because someone uses a CB doesnt make
them a lower class person or less intellectual than an Amateur radio user.
They may have brains far exceeding yours on several topics, just not on
radio. Just because you know a bit about radio doesnt make you a higher
class of person... IT JUST MEANS YOU KNOW ABOUT RADIO'S..... now try
learning common sense, respect for ones fellow man and remember.. Amateur
Radio.. Just like CB.. is JUST A HOBBY...
I love the bit though where you say "it is neither my wish to insult them"
but you manage to do it anyhow...
10-4 over and out .. or in your case QRT..

Another CB-er and potential F-class adherent.

(You can spot them the minute they put finger to keyboard).

Yet another reason I will never obtain a ham ticket. You seem to think that
your little piece of paper raises your IQ.

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:
"Jock." wrote in message
...

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:11:52 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


Hold about a bit matey boy... Just because someone uses a CB doesnt make
them a lower class person or less intellectual than an Amateur radio user.
They may have brains far exceeding yours on several topics, just not on
radio. Just because you know a bit about radio doesnt make you a higher
class of person... IT JUST MEANS YOU KNOW ABOUT RADIO'S..... now try
learning common sense, respect for ones fellow man and remember.. Amateur
Radio.. Just like CB.. is JUST A HOBBY...
I love the bit though where you say "it is neither my wish to insult them"
but you manage to do it anyhow...
10-4 over and out .. or in your case QRT..

Another CB-er and potential F-class adherent.

(You can spot them the minute they put finger to keyboard).


Yet another reason I will never obtain a ham ticket.

Good news for ham radio!

You seem to think that
your little piece of paper raises your IQ.

Yet with you cber IQ you couldn't pass the test even though the answers
to the questions are available.

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Yet another reason I will never obtain a ham ticket.

Good news for ham radio!

Yep, there will be no one left on Ham soon after all the old farts have
died...

You seem to think that
your little piece of paper raises your IQ.

Yet with you cber IQ you couldn't pass the test even though the answers
to the questions are available.

Try taking an IQ test and i bet theres hardly any difference between you and
most people on CB. The only test you would outshine most CBers would be
radio related...

FAQ
 

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...

Yet another reason I will never obtain a ham ticket.

Good news for ham radio!

Yep, there will be no one left on Ham soon after all the old farts have
died...

You seem to think that
your little piece of paper raises your IQ.

Yet with you cber IQ you couldn't pass the test even though the answers
to the questions are available.

Try taking an IQ test and i bet theres hardly any difference between you
and
most people on CB. The only test you would outshine most CBers would be
radio related...

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have read of
his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have read of
his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147


147? Yeah right.

FAQ
 

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have read
of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147
147? Yeah right.

I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day swilling beer
and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you hold, "I have a
ham ticket, that makes me special."

FAQ
 

"DrDeath" wrote in message
...
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have
read
of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147
147? Yeah right.

I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a
CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day swilling
beer
and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you hold, "I have a
ham ticket, that makes me special."

Why on earth would anyone want to pass an Amateur test to talk to guys like
this is beyond me. At least with CB you can have a laugh and also use it
sensibly without having to dedicate your whole life to the bloody thing....
Those people who look down on CB because they are amateurs really...really
need to get out and experience some life..... and i dont mean down to the
ham rallys to buy some more of someones junk to fill their houses with. Not
all Amateurs are like this but theres a lot that are, and a lot of them sit
in these newsgroups trying to prove something. Sad old farts....

FAQ
 

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:03:45 -0500, "DrDeath" wrote:

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have read
of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147
147? Yeah right.

I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day swilling beer
and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you hold, "I have a
ham ticket, that makes me special."

Any moron can pick up a microphone.

--

73 de Jock.

Old Glory - a common misspelling. Only the first "l"
is necessary.

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have read
of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147

147? Yeah right.


I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid...
^^

147?

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have read
of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147

147? Yeah right.


I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day swilling beer
and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you hold, "I have a
ham ticket, that makes me special."



I find that those who brag about their IQs is about all they have to
brag about. I know people with IQs higher then yours who couldn't find
their way to the bathroom and back without help, so what does you IQ
prove? Nothing.

As far as knowing more about radio, I converted my first transmitter, a
Heath DX-60 from controlled carrier AM (you even know what controlled
carrier AM is without looking it up?) to high level plate modulation
(you even know what high level plate modulation is without looking it
up?). I once designed and built my own SSB 80-10 meter transmitter plus
many other pieces of ham equipment. Also constructed a 15 meter three
element beam using gamma matching (you even know what gamma matching is
without looking it up?). What have you designed and built for your 'good
buddy ten-fer ther' cb hobby, mister IQ?

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:
I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day swilling beer
and saying "ten-fer good buddy".

That's downright silly. Y'all gotta have time to put the hammer down and
find y'all's selves a convoy and spot them smokeys from the rockin' chair.
Then y'all gotta test y'all's leenyars by ratchet-jawin' "Walk Walk Walk
On Yoooooooooooooooo" on channels 6 through 34 simultaneously. (That
means "at the same time".)

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

FAQ
 

"DrDeath" wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have
read of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147
147? Yeah right.

I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a
CBer. Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all
CBers are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day
swilling beer and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you
hold, "I have a ham ticket, that makes me special."

Ask him his call.

Post of the week to rrcb
 

"The Magnum" wrote:
Why on earth would anyone want to pass an Amateur test to talk to guys
like this is beyond me. At least with CB you can have a laugh and also
use it sensibly without having to dedicate your whole life to the bloody
thing.... Those people who look down on CB because they are amateurs
really...really need to get out and experience some life..... and i dont
mean down to the ham rallys to buy some more of someones junk to fill
their houses with. Not all Amateurs are like this but theres a lot that
are, and a lot of them sit in these newsgroups trying to prove something.
Sad old farts....

IAWTP.

FAQ
 

Jock. wrote:
Any moron can pick up a microphone.

As proved my so many. License doesn't mean squat to me or K1man. g

FAQ
 

Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
I find that those who brag about their IQs is about all they have to
brag about.

Do you ever take a time-out from your CB posts to really ponder it, JJ?

FAQ
 

"Jock." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:03:45 -0500, "DrDeath"
wrote:

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have
read
of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147
147? Yeah right.

I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a
CBer.
Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all CBers
are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day swilling
beer
and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you hold, "I have a
ham ticket, that makes me special."

Any moron can pick up a microphone.

Same with a keyboard.

FAQ
 

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have
read of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147

147? Yeah right.


I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a
CBer. Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all
CBers are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day
swilling beer and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you
hold, "I have a ham ticket, that makes me special."

I find that those who brag about their IQs is about all they have to brag
about. I know people with IQs higher then yours who couldn't find their
way to the bathroom and back without help, so what does you IQ prove?
Nothing.

I only pointed it out to show that you believe those that use cb radio and
those with no ham ticket are intellectually inferior. So yes, I proved that
quite clearly.


As far as knowing more about radio, I converted my first transmitter, a
Heath DX-60 from controlled carrier AM (you even know what controlled
carrier AM is without looking it up?) to high level plate modulation (you
even know what high level plate modulation is without looking it up?). I
once designed and built my own SSB 80-10 meter transmitter plus many other
pieces of ham equipment. Also constructed a 15 meter three element beam
using gamma matching (you even know what gamma matching is without looking
it up?). What have you designed and built for your 'good buddy ten-fer
ther' cb hobby, mister IQ?

I don't need to look up any of those items.
I am in the process of building a ssb radio to match the linear I built last
year. Though I am certain I spend a great deal less time working on those
types of projects as I have other interests in my life.

FAQ
 

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"DrDeath" wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:

I doubt he knows as much about radio than I do. And from what I have
read of his posts, his IQ is certainly lower than my 147
147? Yeah right.

I realize that it is hard for you to comprehend that, with me being a
CBer. Challenging a belief system can be tough. Like your belief that all
CBers are to stupid to pass the ham test, that we sit around all day
swilling beer and saying "ten-fer good buddy". Or my favorite belief you
hold, "I have a ham ticket, that makes me special."

Ask him his call.

OK Hey Cmdr Buzz Corey, whats your call?

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:


I don't need to look up any of those items.
I am in the process of building a ssb radio to match the linear I built last
year.

Sure you are.

FAQ
 

DrDeath wrote:

I don't need to look up any of those items.
I am in the process of building a ssb radio to match the linear I built last
year. Though I am certain I spend a great deal less time working on those
types of projects as I have other interests in my life.



Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.

FAQ
 

"Polymath" wrote...
Unbeknown to me, this thread had already been cross-posted to
the CB groups, and I would have removed that cross-posting
had I been aware of it.

Why, so that you can abuse people behind their back? What would be the point
of replying to someone, but cutting out the group that the OP uses?

In respect of that, I apologise if my remarks have caused
any offence to the CB community.

I would bet that, if this was cross-posted to *real" tech groups, many qualified
engineers would also be offended by your suggestion that you are a "higher"
level of person.

However, I do not withdraw my
remarks - they are my opinion as to the relative
standing of Radio Hams and of CB Radio
enthusiasts where the playing-field is that of Radio
Hams.

Playing field? So this is nothing more than a game to you, see who can cause the
most offence.

Your problem is that you are blaming the wrong people.
Maybe this is all just an excuse, a cover for your hatred of CB, nothing to do with
Amateur rules. Otherwise you would direct your comments and anger at those
making the changes.

However, having said that, the material quoted below
serves, I think, to illustrate quite well the
intellectual standing of CB Radio enthusiasts
upon which I have commented.....

You write a message which anyone of at least average intelligence will know will offend
certain groups of people, then pretend to be shocked when some respond angrily. You
may be a Ham, but that doesn't mean you can act.

Before putting the angry response down to "CB mentality", take a look through the Google
archives at all the serious abuse sent to newsgroups by some licensed Amateurs.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.


Regards,

Peter.

FAQ
 

"Polymath" wrote...
Because although CBers are in a different intellectual
class to Radio Hams, it is neither my wish to insult
them nor to enter into a discourse with them.

NO...
It IS your intention to insult them, just behind their backs so you run less risk
of them replying. Your post was not really intended as an "FAQ", it was purely
a relatively "safe" release for your personal anger.

Wuss.


CBers have the right to besport their habits in the
appropriate place as do all the lower classes, which
in this context is rrcb (and urrcb).

If you must start seeing this as a class system, look up "Amateur" in a dictionary.
Please consider the meaning of the word before suggesting that an "Amateur" is
above the professionals who design and build equipment to the standards set by
Governments, standards far above that required by an *amateur* producing
equipment for his own personal use.


A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!


Comparing, as you call them, "disgraceful Class Ber's" to 6 year old children is clearly
intended to insult people.

Please think before displaying such ignorance and stupidity by blaming CBers for the rules...
they have absolutely NO CONTROL over such matters. CBers neither set the rules nor claim to
represent "members", that woukld be Ofcom and the RSGB.

CBers do NOT see Amateur and CB as "sisters", it is people like the RSGB, the RA and Ofcom and
a certain magazine publisher who see it that way and make decisions to mix, combine and change
rules and formats.
Any sensible CBer would prefer to keep Amateur and CB separate, as they are separate services
for totally different purposes.

If you must get so angry, do yourself a couple of favours...
1. Blame and whine at the correct people, those able to make the changes.
2. Watch your blood pressure, OM.


I agree with keeping the Amateur requirements higher. I agree that it is now too
simple, and has been for some years. I believe that Amateur radio should be for those
with a real interest in radio, and tests should be set to allow those people through - not
to get the licence figures up.
But it's pointless blaming people for taking what is on offer, sitting the test required to
get their licence.


Regards,

Peter.

FAQ
 

There is no abuse intended in the identification of Ham
Radio and CB Radio as being disparate activities.

I do not hate CB, just as I do not hate other activities
which are as equally irrelevant to Ham Radio - needlework,
gardening, football, and the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

Peter wrote:
Why, so that you can abuse people behind their back? What would be the point
of replying to someone, but cutting out the group that the OP uses?
I would bet that, if this was cross-posted to *real" tech groups, many qualified
engineers would also be offended by your suggestion that you are a "higher"
level of person.
Playing field? So this is nothing more than a game to you, see who can cause the
most offence.
Your problem is that you are blaming the wrong people.
Maybe this is all just an excuse, a cover for your hatred of CB, nothing to do with
Amateur rules. Otherwise you would direct your comments and anger at those
making the changes.
You write a message which anyone of at least average intelligence will know will offend
certain groups of people, then pretend to be shocked when some respond angrily. You
may be a Ham, but that doesn't mean you can act.
Before putting the angry response down to "CB mentality", take a look through the Google
archives at all the serious abuse sent to newsgroups by some licensed Amateurs.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

FAQ
 

Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
DrDeath wrote:

I don't need to look up any of those items.
I am in the process of building a ssb radio to match the linear I built
last year. Though I am certain I spend a great deal less time working
on those types of projects as I have other interests in my life.



Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use?

Care to tell us your call sign, buzzard?

FAQ
 

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
DrDeath wrote:


I don't need to look up any of those items.
I am in the process of building a ssb radio to match the linear I built
last
year.

Sure you are.

Why? cant you afford to buy one??

FAQ
 

Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.

Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???

FAQ
 

The Magnum wrote:
Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.

FAQ
 

Your offering below, riddled as it is with childish
insults illustrates well that you are a CBer.

Peter wrote:
NO...
It IS your intention to insult them, just behind their backs so you run less risk
of them replying. Your post was not really intended as an "FAQ", it was purely
a relatively "safe" release for your personal anger.
Wuss.
If you must start seeing this as a class system, look up "Amateur" in a dictionary.
Please consider the meaning of the word before suggesting that an "Amateur" is
above the professionals who design and build equipment to the standards set by
Governments, standards far above that required by an *amateur* producing
equipment for his own personal use.
Comparing, as you call them, "disgraceful Class Ber's" to 6 year old children is clearly
intended to insult people.
Please think before displaying such ignorance and stupidity by blaming CBers for the rules...
they have absolutely NO CONTROL over such matters. CBers neither set the rules nor claim to
represent "members", that woukld be Ofcom and the RSGB.
CBers do NOT see Amateur and CB as "sisters", it is people like the RSGB, the RA and Ofcom and
a certain magazine publisher who see it that way and make decisions to mix, combine and change
rules and formats.
Any sensible CBer would prefer to keep Amateur and CB separate, as they are separate services
for totally different purposes.
If you must get so angry, do yourself a couple of favours...
1. Blame and whine at the correct people, those able to make the changes.
2. Watch your blood pressure, OM.
I agree with keeping the Amateur requirements higher. I agree that it is now too
simple, and has been for some years. I believe that Amateur radio should be for those
with a real interest in radio, and tests should be set to allow those people through - not
to get the licence figures up.
But it's pointless blaming people for taking what is on offer, sitting the test required to
get their licence.

FAQ
 

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
m...
The Magnum wrote:
Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion
are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.

Type approved.... hmm, its a bit of a strange one that ... which makes me
think "type approved" for Amateur is something home made from bits of
anything.... not tested by anyone... just soldered together by an Amateur so
it must be perfect ...right? No spurious emmisions or any interference
because the person cobbling it together is an Amateur...... Now no
disrespect here is aimed at Amateurs, just some of the laws governing the
hobby seem to be crazy. Amateurs building their own kit and having it tested
via some professional body before use i can accept.... but does that ticket
mean you can build your own "boots" and use it no matter how bad it may be
made? It seems so..... sod type approval eh. Or were you just relating to
"licence conditions"
I know a few Amateurs who are law breakers too. Using their illegally
adapted Amateur equipment to listen in to CB frequencies i believe is a NO
NO, unless you have a CB licence... to which would Amateurs actually bother
to get a CB licence? Are the radios actually legal to use on the CB bands??
i dont know 100% so i ask the question. We all do things from time to time
that are deemed illegal.... so your statement on "No, not all chicken
banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are" could be said
against any group of people.

Whats your opinion on M3's? Do you encorage them or see them as a stain on
Amateur radio? Im just curious by the way.

Regards,
Graham

FAQ
 

Also known as the M3/CB Fools' Licence - any 6 year old, having
no previous knowledge or experience of Ham Radio can attend a
weekend course and leave on the Monday with a licence.

The scheme is a complete joke and held in widespread
derision by any self-respecting _REAL_ Brit Radio Ham.

No 6 year old has the mathematical toolset to deal with
even the most simple of algebraic transpositions that are
necessary to deal with problems involvng Ohm's Law.

The M3 is a CB licence, nothing more, nothing less.

It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
I must confess I haven't acquainted myself with M3's. Is this a test
free amateur license?

FAQ
 

Polymath wrote:

It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


It's 'its' you ****wit!
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

FAQ
 

huLLy wrote:
Polymath wrote:

It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


It's 'its' you ****wit!

and Citizens' Band... what a poor disgrace you are to our worldwide
associates..
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

FAQ
 

The Magnum wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
m...

The Magnum wrote:

Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion

are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.


Type approved.... hmm, its a bit of a strange one that ... which makes me
think "type approved" for Amateur is something home made from bits of
anything.... not tested by anyone... just soldered together by an Amateur so
it must be perfect ...right? No spurious emmisions or any interference
because the person cobbling it together is an Amateur...... Now no
disrespect here is aimed at Amateurs, just some of the laws governing the
hobby seem to be crazy. Amateurs building their own kit and having it tested
via some professional body before use i can accept.... but does that ticket
mean you can build your own "boots" and use it no matter how bad it may be
made? It seems so..... sod type approval eh. Or were you just relating to
"licence conditions"

Maybe the rules are different where you are, but in the US amateurs can
construct any of their equipment, but it *is their responsibility* to
test it and make sure it operates legally. If it doesn't they can be
held accountable by the FCC. Granted, there are few today, due to lack
of technical knowledge that can do that. It wasn't that long ago
however, that finding a ham station completely constructed by the
amateur wasn't uncommon or often surplus military gear would be modified
for use on the amateur bands. With the plug-and-talk equipment of today,
easier test with given answers that can be memorized, the technical
expertise of the amateur is sadly lacking

I know a few Amateurs who are law breakers too. Using their illegally
adapted Amateur equipment to listen in to CB frequencies i believe is a NO
NO, unless you have a CB licence...

In the US any ham or anyone else can legally listen in on cb frequencies.

to which would Amateurs actually bother
to get a CB licence?

Since there is no requirement here for a cb license I don't suppose any
amateur would bother.

Are the radios actually legal to use on the CB bands??

Only radios that are type accepted for cb use are legal to use on the cb
bands. There is a problem here with imported radios that have 'expanded'
channels that will also operate on the 10 meter ham band. These radios
are not 'type certified' for cb use and they are purchased by unlicensed
persons and are often used on the 10 meter band. Some time back it was a
popular thing for amateurs to take cb radios and convert them for use on
the 10 meter band, just change the crystals, peak up the circuits and
you had a nice little mobile 10 meter radio. Once modified as such the
radios were no longer type certified nor legal for cb use but perfectly
legal for amateur use.

i dont know 100% so i ask the question. We all do things from time to time
that are deemed illegal.... so your statement on "No, not all chicken
banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are" could be said
against any group of people.

True, but there is a much larger percentage of illegal operation on the
cb band than on the amateur bands, at least here in the US. And we have
the 'freebanders' who for some strange reason think they have the right
to operate on the frequencies between the upper end of the cb band and
the lower end of 10 meters plus just about anywhere else they chose.

Whats your opinion on M3's? Do you encorage them or see them as a stain on
Amateur radio? Im just curious by the way.

I must confess I haven't acquainted myself with M3's. Is this a test
free amateur license?

FAQ
 

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
The Magnum wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
m...

The Magnum wrote:

Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will
the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion

are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.


Type approved.... hmm, its a bit of a strange one that ... which makes
me
think "type approved" for Amateur is something home made from bits of
anything.... not tested by anyone... just soldered together by an
Amateur so
it must be perfect ...right? No spurious emmisions or any interference
because the person cobbling it together is an Amateur...... Now no
disrespect here is aimed at Amateurs, just some of the laws governing
the
hobby seem to be crazy. Amateurs building their own kit and having it
tested
via some professional body before use i can accept.... but does that
ticket
mean you can build your own "boots" and use it no matter how bad it may
be
made? It seems so..... sod type approval eh. Or were you just relating
to
"licence conditions"

Maybe the rules are different where you are, but in the US amateurs can
construct any of their equipment, but it *is their responsibility* to
test it and make sure it operates legally. If it doesn't they can be
held accountable by the FCC. Granted, there are few today, due to lack
of technical knowledge that can do that. It wasn't that long ago
however, that finding a ham station completely constructed by the
amateur wasn't uncommon or often surplus military gear would be modified
for use on the amateur bands. With the plug-and-talk equipment of today,
easier test with given answers that can be memorized, the technical
expertise of the amateur is sadly lacking

Ive seen a few of the ex military gear on my frequent walks around the radio
rally meetings held in the UK at various times of the year. Ive even seen
small tanks for sale :o)

I know a few Amateurs who are law breakers too. Using their illegally
adapted Amateur equipment to listen in to CB frequencies i believe is a
NO
NO, unless you have a CB licence...

In the US any ham or anyone else can legally listen in on cb frequencies.

to which would Amateurs actually bother
to get a CB licence?

Since there is no requirement here for a cb license I don't suppose any
amateur would bother.

Are the radios actually legal to use on the CB bands??

Only radios that are type accepted for cb use are legal to use on the cb
bands. There is a problem here with imported radios that have 'expanded'
channels that will also operate on the 10 meter ham band. These radios
are not 'type certified' for cb use and they are purchased by unlicensed
persons and are often used on the 10 meter band. Some time back it was a
popular thing for amateurs to take cb radios and convert them for use on
the 10 meter band, just change the crystals, peak up the circuits and
you had a nice little mobile 10 meter radio. Once modified as such the
radios were no longer type certified nor legal for cb use but perfectly
legal for amateur use.

Indeed. But what i was getting at was Amateur radios that can access the CB
bands not CB's themselves. I know in the UK if an amateur wants to converse
on the 27MHz CB band he needs a CB licence.. his Amateur licence doesnt
cover him/her for it. (or whether thats just M3 im not sure) Im sure someone
will let us know.

i dont know 100% so i ask the question. We all do things from time to
time
that are deemed illegal.... so your statement on "No, not all chicken
banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are" could be said
against any group of people.

True, but there is a much larger percentage of illegal operation on the
cb band than on the amateur bands, at least here in the US. And we have
the 'freebanders' who for some strange reason think they have the right
to operate on the frequencies between the upper end of the cb band and
the lower end of 10 meters plus just about anywhere else they chose.

Whats your opinion on M3's? Do you encorage them or see them as a stain
on
Amateur radio? Im just curious by the way.

I must confess I haven't acquainted myself with M3's. Is this a test
free amateur license?

In the UK its a simple test (which only an idiot would fail) to get people
started on the Amateur bands. I think the main frequencies being 2m. Im not
sure where else they can go but its limited compaired to a full amateur and
the powers less. Most UK Amateurs are horrified that their airspace is being
invaded by these "CB type lowlife" (their words not mine) which suprises me
as i firmly believe anyone gaining their M3 licence would go on to
Intermediate... etc not stop there so i cant see why the "old hams" arent
encoraging them rather than belittling them.
http://rsgb.org.uk/beginners/ under foundation

Regards,
Graham

FAQ
 

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:47:24 +0100, Nedlar wrote:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:50:03 +0100, "huLLy"
wrote:


It's 'its' you ****wit!

Why don't you correct your CB chum Magnum?
His postings are typical of the semi-literate, brain-dead CBr.

Yes, but he's a Yank. Illiteracy is expected of them.

--

73 de Jock.

"You will always find that those who are most apt to
boast of national merit, have little or no merit of
their own to depend on". - Oliver Goldsmith.

FAQ
 

In article .com,
says...
Also known as the M3/CB Fools' Licence - any 6 year old, having
no previous knowledge or experience of Ham Radio can attend a
weekend course and leave on the Monday with a licence.


So, Polymath, what have you homebrewed lately?

-- jm

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FAQ
 

huLLy wrote:
huLLy wrote:

Polymath wrote:


It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


It's 'its' you ****wit!


and Citizens' Band... what a poor disgrace you are to our worldwide
associates..

I would say the language you use makes you a much poorer disgrace to our
world wide associates than his misuse of an '.

FAQ
 

Nedlar wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:50:03 +0100, "huLLy"
wrote:



It's 'its' you ****wit!


Why don't you correct your CB chum Magnum?
His postings are typical of the semi-literate, brain-dead CBr.

I think Magnum ask some very valid questions and makes some very valid
points.