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[email protected] October 29th 05 05:47 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
wrote:

Brian, you've posted (I have a copy along with others from
rrap
who've filed on WT Docket 05-235) and so have others. But,
for all his macho morsemanship, neither James P. Miccolis nor
the mighty morsemen regulars in here have NOT filed!


So? What's your point, Len?

I'll "file" when I want to.


Len, the old saying goes, if you don't "vote" you can't bitch.

Except for these guys. They can bitch up a storm.


K4YZ October 29th 05 09:28 AM

Another Len Quote
 

RST Engineering wrote:
Novice 1967 (age 13)


Same age.

2nd Class Commercial Radiotelephone 1972


1st Class Commercial Radiotelephone 1964 (age 17), Radar Endorsement

Coinventer US patent #5,358,202


I quit the company and the boss got the patent designations from my
notebooks, but I'm not going to press the issue.


There's always "something", isn't there...?!?!

However, designated responsible engineer for FCC type
acceptance/certification on seven commercial two-way transceivers; two for
studio-transmitter links and five for aircraft transceivers. Currently on
the "approved" list for type acceptance/certification for FCC Laurel
Laboratories.


That's pretty impressive, Jim. You've been involved in quite a number
of
things in and out of amateur radio. Even if I was
an "Internationally
acknowledged expert in the subject of hidden antennas", I don't think I
could bring myself to so describe myself.


Well, if you had sold ten thousand (actual count may vary a few percent)
hidden antenna original design products everywhere from Latvia to Louisiana,
you may describe yourself that way.

Aside from your not including attributions,


What do you mean by attributions? I'll give proof of anything I've said.

not signing your
post


I thought I signed it Jim. If you want a full formal signing, it is Jim
Weir, WX6RST. Most people know who I am; I don't hide behind a pseudonym.

and
the top posting,


In the vernacular, go screw yourself.


Well there we go!

What is it about California engineers that tends to present a foul
mouthed, two-faced, It's-OK-For-Me-But-You-Better-Do-It-Like-I-Say
attitude...?!?!

I'll top post, interleave post, or
bottom post, whichever I think will get the point across better. "A foolish
consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." Or, in the Latin, "Pusca,
puscalorum."


you even manage to present some of your ideas here in a
reasonable manner.


It is the engineer showing through the politician.


The arrogant showing through the deceitful?

That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there. He keeps alluding to MARS duty and I did spend time operating a
MARS circuit from Tan Son Nhut, but only in an off duty capacity.


I have only the highest regard for anybody who wore the uniform. It was not
my privilege to do military duty as my parents neatly sandwiched me in
between Korea and Vietnam. Sure, I did MARS duty for twenty years, and
sure, I wear the local sheriff's Search and Rescue volunteer uniform, but it
pales in weak comparison to actual military duty. I bow my head in
gratitude.


You're welcome.

Here's another fun quote from Len, made two years ago today:

Then there's his classic "sphincters post", but you get the general
idea.


$#!+, we all get into the bottle from time to time and post stuff that we
regret in the morning, but what the hell. Two quotes from two years? Give
the guy a break. I'd hate (although my political opponents have done it
mercilessly) to be quoted two years after the fact and have to defend myself
at that time.


"TWO QUOTES FROM TWO YEARS?"..............?!?!

So where's that "engineer" you alluded to a moment ago, Jim...?!?!

There's only EIGHT YEARS of solid profanity, deceit, arrogance,
argumenitivness, and down right ugly behaviour from Lennie!

That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number of
things in amateur radio.


Who is "he's". Me? Len? You? Steve? ???? And don't worry about RST.
It has been around since 1973 and will probably be around long after you and
I are SK. Don't worry about it. I have the cojones to put my reputation
and my company's reputation on the line when I see something that just cries
for comment.


Like tacit support for a know liar, Jim...?!?!

Where do they teach that in business school?

Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len is
something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around after
the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


If you are talking about me, I've been on the usenet and this ng since 1995.
I don't claim to defend Len, but again, most of what he says makes perfect
sense.


Perfect sense if you are into self mutilation and flagellation.

It is YOU TWO that I'm worried about.


Oh jeeze...Yet another "General Hospital" trained psychiatrist.

Steve, K4YZ


Leo October 29th 05 10:58 PM

Another Len Quote (was: Lennie's Scorecard Backfires)
 
On 28 Oct 2005 14:58:47 -0700, wrote:

snip


I could go on...


(sigh) ....truer words have never been spoken....

snip


73 de Jim, N2EY


73, Leo

[email protected] October 30th 05 01:50 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700,
wrote:

wrote:

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I think Jimmie-James is all for children
VOTING in elections!

I don't know who "Jimmie-James" is supposed to be, Len. But I'm
not "all for children VOTING in elections". I'm just opposed
to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio license.


Jim in answering the post I am afraid you just lied above


Where?

Len uses multiple names in his posts. I'm not sure who he means by
"Jimmie-James". Is it me, or Jim Weir (who posts as "RSTEngineering")
or somebody else?


Then you must be dim-witted.

If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?


All this confusion, then you go ahead and answer af if it were you he
was referring to. That is the lie that Mark refers to.

And it's a fact that I'm not "all for children VOTING in elections".


Why would you care? He's not talking about what you are in favor
of, is he?

I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.


Good for you. Len is in favor of an age requirement.

Or perhaps, it is okay for children having state
drivers' licenses...

I don't think it's okay for children to have driver's
licenses. I'm
just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio license.


and Len supports the notion at this point


Why?


Why not? The books are full of minimum age requirements for various
things.

Can he or anyone else supply *ANY* evidence that the lack of
an age requirement has had *any* negative effects on the amateur
radio service?

We've had licensed amateur radio in the USA for 93 years now. In all
that time there has *never* been an age requirement. So if
the lack of an age requirement is a problem, there should be
plenty of evidence by now. Yet Len provides no evidence, but
wants an age requirement of 14 years for anyone to have a US amateur
license.

If you look at FCC enforcement letters, the age of the worst
offenders is much closer to Len's age than to 14 years....


It's possible that yet another arbitrary licensing requirement might be
good for the ARS. Imagine all those 11, 12, and 13 year old trying to
sneak in under the FCC's radar and get their licenses prematurely.
Those poor old VE's will have to break out "thier" bi-focals and check
for proper age. Imagine all the "job security" that Riley will have
checking the birth dates of all those No-Code Technician wannabe's.

I neither support nor oppose such a notion,


Why don't you oppose it? It's a completely unnecessary
requirement for a license. No evidence has been presented
to support it.


Morse Code in sheep's clothing? Hi!

Just what we need is another unnecessary, arbitrary license requirement!


[email protected] October 30th 05 04:03 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
On 28 Oct 2005 19:35:45 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700,
wrote:

wrote:

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I think Jimmie-James is all for children
VOTING in elections!

I don't know who "Jimmie-James" is supposed to be, Len. But I'm
not "all for children VOTING in elections". I'm just opposed
to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio license.


Jim in answering the post I am afraid you just lied above


Where?


Hot ham handled that for me he is right

I'll just you were being dense to need it

Len uses multiple names in his posts. I'm not sure who he means by
"Jimmie-James". Is it me, or Jim Weir (who posts as "RSTEngineering")
or somebody else?

If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?

And it's a fact that I'm not "all for children VOTING in elections".
I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.

Or perhaps, it is okay for children having state
drivers' licenses...

I don't think it's okay for children to have driver's
licenses. I'm
just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio license.


and Len supports the notion at this point


Why?


he has explained his reasoning over the years I agree there is
something to it

Can he or anyone else supply *ANY* evidence that the lack of
an age requirement has had *any* negative effects on the amateur
radio service?


I doubt it he points out a peotencail bad effect but one that seems
not to be problem

We've had licensed amateur radio in the USA for 93 years now. In all
that time there has *never* been an age requirement. So if
the lack of an age requirement is a problem, there should be
plenty of evidence by now. Yet Len provides no evidence, but
wants an age requirement of 14 years for anyone to have a US amateur
license.

If you look at FCC enforcement letters, the age of the worst
offenders is much closer to Len's age than to 14 years....

I neither support nor oppose such a notion,


Why don't you oppose it?

for the same reason I don't oppose voice testing before the voice
modes, there is no serious proposal on the table to do anything about
it

It's a completely unnecessary
requirement for a license. No evidence has been presented
to support it.


just like code testing which is why the later is likely out of the
service very soon

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[email protected] October 30th 05 08:31 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Fri 28 Oct 2005 21:47


wrote:
wrote:

Brian, you've posted (I have a copy along with others from
rrap
who've filed on WT Docket 05-235) and so have others. But,
for all his macho morsemanship, neither James P. Miccolis nor
the mighty morsemen regulars in here have NOT filed!


So? What's your point, Len?

I'll "file" when I want to.


Len, the old saying goes, if you don't "vote" you can't bitch.


The U.S. Constitution has a (gasp!) "age requirment" minimum
on voters!

Jimmie has implied he is an EXPERT on military matters and can
"judge" veterans. However he NEVER served one moment of time
IN the military. [there's a minimum age requirement for that
as well as a maximum age...:-) ]

Except for these guys. They can bitch up a storm.


In HERE. They seem to get "lost" when it comes time to
communicate with their own government...but that does NOT
stop them being judgemental to an ultimate degree in HERE.

Jimmie will "file when he wants to." In order to be counted,
he MUST file a Comment by October 31st and a Reply to Comments
by November 14. Maybe he thinks (because of his "superiority")
that the U.S. government will "listen to him" even if he files
beyond the official ending date? [I'm sure he does]

Jimmie ain't said he read ALL of the Comments in Docket 05-235.
He's said he will NOT do his own tally...but he is QUICK to
condemn and berate and call "inaccurate" the tallies of
others! Anyplace else he would be called a hypocrite. In here
he is a Morseman Extra.

Beep, beep, huh-rawhhh!




[email protected] October 30th 05 08:34 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Oct 30, 5:50 am

wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700, wrote:
wrote:



Len uses multiple names in his posts. I'm not sure who he means by
"Jimmie-James". Is it me, or Jim Weir (who posts as "RSTEngineering")
or somebody else?


Then you must be dim-witted.


Nah...he's only in a truss over trying to misdirect the subject
thread on all about how we should all be FORMAL and RESPECTFUL
to the mighty macho morsemen extras.

Maybe I'll get a tuxedo and wear one when posting to these
mighty macho motivated morsemen? Now if they would only
specify white-tie or black-tie? :-)


If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?


All this confusion, then you go ahead and answer af if it were you he
was referring to. That is the lie that Mark refers to.


Further reinforcement of the misdirection onto Jimmie's demand
for FORMALITY and RESPECTFULNESS...when it comes to HIM. :-)


And it's a fact that I'm not "all for children VOTING in elections".


Why would you care? He's not talking about what you are in favor
of, is he?


Poor Jimmie. I dropped that "age requirement for amateur licensees"
six years ago and he just can't LET GO of it. He MUST keep on
arguing and arguing and arguing and arguing it over and over and
over and over again...perhaps hoping that I will "give in" or
acknowledge his Lordship's Superior Intellect or whatever. :-)


I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.


Good for you. Len is in favor of an age requirement.


What I "favor" is NOT allowed in here according to James P.
Miccolis, renowned amateur historian and mighty macho motivated
morseman extra. :-)


and Len supports the notion at this point


Why?


Why not? The books are full of minimum age requirements for various
things.


...not to mention the Constitution of the United States. :-)

Note that the Miccolis Misdirection ploy is almost complete.
Once again, Miccolis Misdirection has caused a thread shift
to an oft-repeated "argument" (originally started by Hans
Brakob in here) over a Reply to Comments on the (now dead)
WT Docket 98-143 of 1998-1999.

Instead of the usual condemnation (of anyone not thinking as
wonderfully as Jimmie) on the "docket score card" (05-235 tally),
we have done the Time Warp back to 1999 and are re-arguing
the "up-coming" Reconstruction R&O. :-) FCC 99-412 of late
December 1999 decided "Reconstruction."

The FCC did NOT order any age requirements in R&O 99-412. There
is NO age requirement statement of any kind in NPRM 05-143.
Jimmie thinks this is ALL about "age requirements."



I neither support nor oppose such a notion,


Why don't you oppose it? It's a completely unnecessary
requirement for a license. No evidence has been presented
to support it.


Morse Code in sheep's clothing? Hi!


More like "Morse sheep in wolf's costume." :-)

Halloween without the Trick or Treat...

Just what we need is another unnecessary, arbitrary license requirement!


Just what we DON'T need is Jimmie hosing everyone with an old,
Old, OLD arguments over "age requirements" which were NOT on the
"reconstruction" NPRM nor in NPRM 05-143. :-)

Now, if Jimmie wants to fire up his "state of the art" 1990s
vacuum tube Southgate Type 7 and beep to young boys with CW, let
him. It keeps him "happy" when he doesn't have to reveal a
thing about his REAL identity...on-off keying morse code cannot
reveal a single clue to gender, age, emotion, or anything else
while voice can tell much. Jimmie can, effectively, HIDE behind
his on-off key. Jimmie can be the "X-man superhero," a "masked
avenger" (like Captain Code) who keeps alive the old, Old, OLD
modes forever and ever. [long live 1844! :-) ]




[email protected] October 30th 05 10:31 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
From: on Oct 30, 5:50 am

wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700, wrote:
wrote:



Len uses multiple names in his posts. I'm not sure who he means by
"Jimmie-James". Is it me, or Jim Weir (who posts as "RSTEngineering")
or somebody else?


Then you must be dim-witted.


Nah...he's only in a truss over trying to misdirect the subject
thread on all about how we should all be FORMAL and RESPECTFUL
to the mighty macho morsemen extras.

Maybe I'll get a tuxedo and wear one when posting to these
mighty macho motivated morsemen? Now if they would only
specify white-tie or black-tie? :-)


You could do like the news anchors; just wear the upper half.

If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?


All this confusion, then you go ahead and answer af if it were you he
was referring to. That is the lie that Mark refers to.


Further reinforcement of the misdirection onto Jimmie's demand
for FORMALITY and RESPECTFULNESS...when it comes to HIM. :-)


Whole nother set of rules for Jim.

And it's a fact that I'm not "all for children VOTING in elections".


Why would you care? He's not talking about what you are in favor
of, is he?


Poor Jimmie. I dropped that "age requirement for amateur licensees"
six years ago and he just can't LET GO of it. He MUST keep on
arguing and arguing and arguing and arguing it over and over and
over and over again...perhaps hoping that I will "give in" or
acknowledge his Lordship's Superior Intellect or whatever. :-)


He just wants me to bring up him saying that "A Morse Code Exam would
be a barrier to Morse Code Use."

I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.


Good for you. Len is in favor of an age requirement.


What I "favor" is NOT allowed in here according to James P.
Miccolis, renowned amateur historian and mighty macho motivated
morseman extra. :-)


He is self-appointed.

and Len supports the notion at this point


Why?


Why not? The books are full of minimum age requirements for various
things.


...not to mention the Constitution of the United States. :-)

Note that the Miccolis Misdirection ploy is almost complete.
Once again, Miccolis Misdirection has caused a thread shift
to an oft-repeated "argument" (originally started by Hans
Brakob in here) over a Reply to Comments on the (now dead)
WT Docket 98-143 of 1998-1999.

Instead of the usual condemnation (of anyone not thinking as
wonderfully as Jimmie) on the "docket score card" (05-235 tally),
we have done the Time Warp back to 1999 and are re-arguing
the "up-coming" Reconstruction R&O. :-) FCC 99-412 of late
December 1999 decided "Reconstruction."

The FCC did NOT order any age requirements in R&O 99-412. There
is NO age requirement statement of any kind in NPRM 05-143.
Jimmie thinks this is ALL about "age requirements."


You gotta remember that these guys are almost always behind the times.

I neither support nor oppose such a notion,


Why don't you oppose it? It's a completely unnecessary
requirement for a license. No evidence has been presented
to support it.


Morse Code in sheep's clothing? Hi!


More like "Morse sheep in wolf's costume." :-)

Halloween without the Trick or Treat...

Just what we need is another unnecessary, arbitrary license requirement!


Just what we DON'T need is Jimmie hosing everyone with an old,
Old, OLD arguments over "age requirements" which were NOT on the
"reconstruction" NPRM nor in NPRM 05-143. :-)

Now, if Jimmie wants to fire up his "state of the art" 1990s
vacuum tube Southgate Type 7 and beep to young boys with CW, let
him. It keeps him "happy" when he doesn't have to reveal a
thing about his REAL identity...on-off keying morse code cannot
reveal a single clue to gender, age, emotion, or anything else
while voice can tell much. Jimmie can, effectively, HIDE behind
his on-off key. Jimmie can be the "X-man superhero," a "masked
avenger" (like Captain Code) who keeps alive the old, Old, OLD
modes forever and ever. [long live 1844! :-) ]



But in all that anonymity, Jim know the sex, age, race, religion,
sexual preference, and political party of all those anonymous signals.


He's said so! Hi, hi!!!


[email protected] October 30th 05 10:43 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
From:
on Fri 28 Oct 2005 21:47
wrote:
wrote:

Brian, you've posted (I have a copy along with others from
rrap
who've filed on WT Docket 05-235) and so have others. But,
for all his macho morsemanship, neither James P. Miccolis nor
the mighty morsemen regulars in here have NOT filed!

So? What's your point, Len?

I'll "file" when I want to.


Len, the old saying goes, if you don't "vote" you can't bitch.


The U.S. Constitution has a (gasp!) "age requirment" minimum
on voters!


Yikes! That sounds almost unconstitutional!

Jimmie has implied he is an EXPERT on military matters and can
"judge" veterans. However he NEVER served one moment of time
IN the military. [there's a minimum age requirement for that
as well as a maximum age...:-) ]


Jimmy may be many things, but he is no judge of the military nor its
veterans. The best Jim can do is stand on the sidewalk and wave a flag
as the parade goes by. Maybe Kelly and Cos will join him.

Except for these guys. They can bitch up a storm.


In HERE. They seem to get "lost" when it comes time to
communicate with their own government...but that does NOT
stop them being judgemental to an ultimate degree in HERE.


Jimmie will "file when he wants to." In order to be counted,
he MUST file a Comment by October 31st and a Reply to Comments
by November 14. Maybe he thinks (because of his "superiority")
that the U.S. government will "listen to him" even if he files
beyond the official ending date? [I'm sure he does]


Jim will file. He'll do it from work tomorrow. Probably has nothing
else to do. He just doesn't want counter-comments at this time.

Jimmie ain't said he read ALL of the Comments in Docket 05-235.
He's said he will NOT do his own tally...but he is QUICK to
condemn and berate and call "inaccurate" the tallies of
others! Anyplace else he would be called a hypocrite. In here
he is a Morseman Extra.


I wonder what's on the "FISTS" site?

Beep, beep, huh-rawhhh!



beebeep


[email protected] October 31st 05 05:47 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Oct 30, 2:31 pm

wrote:
From: on Oct 30, 5:50 am
wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700, wrote:
wrote:



Len uses multiple names in his posts. I'm not sure who he means by
"Jimmie-James". Is it me, or Jim Weir (who posts as "RSTEngineering")
or somebody else?


Then you must be dim-witted.


Nah...he's only in a truss over trying to misdirect the subject
thread on all about how we should all be FORMAL and RESPECTFUL
to the mighty macho morsemen extras.


Maybe I'll get a tuxedo and wear one when posting to these
mighty macho motivated morsemen? Now if they would only
specify white-tie or black-tie? :-)


You could do like the news anchors; just wear the upper half.


Hmmm...good idea. However, KNBC and KTLA out here aren't
bottomless in the studio. Well, KTLA might be...in the
morning news show they act like "Laugh In Looks At the News."
[less Judy Carne and Goldie Jean Hawn]

Ever notice that James P. Miccolis never concerned himself
at all about Dudly the Imposter calling me "Lennie" for
over a year in here? :-)

Jimmie thought he could get another to the dirty work he
craved. :-)

If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?


All this confusion, then you go ahead and answer af if it were you he
was referring to. That is the lie that Mark refers to.


Further reinforcement of the misdirection onto Jimmie's demand
for FORMALITY and RESPECTFULNESS...when it comes to HIM. :-)


Whole nother set of rules for Jim.


PCTA Double Standard...alive and well in rrap.


Poor Jimmie. I dropped that "age requirement for amateur licensees"
six years ago and he just can't LET GO of it. He MUST keep on
arguing and arguing and arguing and arguing it over and over and
over and over again...perhaps hoping that I will "give in" or
acknowledge his Lordship's Superior Intellect or whatever. :-)


He just wants me to bring up him saying that "A Morse Code Exam would
be a barrier to Morse Code Use."


He hasn't done it YET. How long has it been?


I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.


Good for you. Len is in favor of an age requirement.


What I "favor" is NOT allowed in here according to James P.
Miccolis, renowned amateur historian and mighty macho motivated
morseman extra. :-)


He is self-appointed.


But...he might have an "official certificate" (suitable for framing)
saying he IS one or both of those! :-)



You gotta remember that these guys are almost always behind the times.


They'd probably be behind the Wall Street Journal...if they could
afford a copy. :-)


Now, if Jimmie wants to fire up his "state of the art" 1990s
vacuum tube Southgate Type 7 and beep to young boys with CW, let
him. It keeps him "happy" when he doesn't have to reveal a
thing about his REAL identity...on-off keying morse code cannot
reveal a single clue to gender, age, emotion, or anything else
while voice can tell much. Jimmie can, effectively, HIDE behind
his on-off key. Jimmie can be the "X-man superhero," a "masked
avenger" (like Captain Code) who keeps alive the old, Old, OLD
modes forever and ever. [long live 1844! :-) ]


But in all that anonymity, Jim know the sex, age, race, religion,
sexual preference, and political party of all those anonymous signals.

He's said so! Hi, hi!!!


He's a heckuva guy! :-)

Too bad he is turning into Dudly the Imposter, Jr.

Everyone is scrupulously honest in morse mode...they never ever
swear, are always civil towards one another, and never is heard
a discouraging word while the skies are not cloudy all day...

bit bit



[email protected] October 31st 05 05:50 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Oct 30, 2:43 pm

wrote:
From: on Fri 28 Oct 2005 21:47
wrote:
wrote:




The U.S. Constitution has a (gasp!) "age requirment" minimum
on voters!


Yikes! That sounds almost unconstitutional!


Quick...to the Supremes...have the ARRL argue that in
front of the robed crowd!


Jimmie has implied he is an EXPERT on military matters and can
"judge" veterans. However he NEVER served one moment of time
IN the military. [there's a minimum age requirement for that
as well as a maximum age...:-) ]


Jimmy may be many things, but he is no judge of the military nor its
veterans. The best Jim can do is stand on the sidewalk and wave a flag
as the parade goes by. Maybe Kelly and Cos will join him.


Great "cheering section"...NOT. :-)


Except for these guys. They can bitch up a storm.


In HERE. They seem to get "lost" when it comes time to
communicate with their own government...but that does NOT
stop them being judgemental to an ultimate degree in HERE.
Jimmie will "file when he wants to." In order to be counted,
he MUST file a Comment by October 31st and a Reply to Comments
by November 14. Maybe he thinks (because of his "superiority")
that the U.S. government will "listen to him" even if he files
beyond the official ending date? [I'm sure he does]


Jim will file. He'll do it from work tomorrow. Probably has nothing
else to do. He just doesn't want counter-comments at this time.


You have a point there...Jimmie no want any opposition to
his opinions. He gets all upset and starts making nasty
("just asking some questions") over and over and over again.

Jimmie ain't said he read ALL of the Comments in Docket 05-235.
He's said he will NOT do his own tally...but he is QUICK to
condemn and berate and call "inaccurate" the tallies of
others! Anyplace else he would be called a hypocrite. In here
he is a Morseman Extra.


I wonder what's on the "FISTS" site?


A bunch of ancient propaganda pro morsemanship, I'd expect.

Haven't bothered to look there since last year. Back then I
was looking up some ancient history on radio communication.
Morsemanship is ancient radio communications. :-)

Beep, beep, huh-rawhhh!




beebeep


bit bit



K4YZ October 31st 05 02:54 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
wrote:


James P. Miccolis has NOT answered a repeated question: How
many children has HE parented? He won't say, doesn't answer.


Why should I answer that question, Len? You refuse to answer on-topic
questions, so why should anyone answer your off-topic ones?


That same question has been posed to Lennie for YEARS now...So
far, not even a hint of an answer...At least we know Jim has kids...

Lennie has...A lap dog and a stray cat?

Steve, K4YZ


[email protected] November 1st 05 12:42 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
From: on Oct 30, 2:31 pm

wrote:
From: on Oct 30, 5:50 am
wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700, wrote:
wrote:



Len uses multiple names in his posts. I'm not sure who he means by
"Jimmie-James". Is it me, or Jim Weir (who posts as "RSTEngineering")
or somebody else?


Then you must be dim-witted.


Nah...he's only in a truss over trying to misdirect the subject
thread on all about how we should all be FORMAL and RESPECTFUL
to the mighty macho morsemen extras.


Maybe I'll get a tuxedo and wear one when posting to these
mighty macho motivated morsemen? Now if they would only
specify white-tie or black-tie? :-)


You could do like the news anchors; just wear the upper half.


Hmmm...good idea. However, KNBC and KTLA out here aren't
bottomless in the studio. Well, KTLA might be...in the
morning news show they act like "Laugh In Looks At the News."
[less Judy Carne and Goldie Jean Hawn]

Ever notice that James P. Miccolis never concerned himself
at all about Dudly the Imposter calling me "Lennie" for
over a year in here? :-)

Jimmie thought he could get another to the dirty work he
craved. :-)


Jim is completely oblivious to everything except his own peeves.

If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?


All this confusion, then you go ahead and answer af if it were you he
was referring to. That is the lie that Mark refers to.


Further reinforcement of the misdirection onto Jimmie's demand
for FORMALITY and RESPECTFULNESS...when it comes to HIM. :-)


Whole nother set of rules for Jim.


PCTA Double Standard...alive and well in rrap.


MMMM.

Poor Jimmie. I dropped that "age requirement for amateur licensees"
six years ago and he just can't LET GO of it. He MUST keep on
arguing and arguing and arguing and arguing it over and over and
over and over again...perhaps hoping that I will "give in" or
acknowledge his Lordship's Superior Intellect or whatever. :-)


He just wants me to bring up him saying that "A Morse Code Exam would
be a barrier to Morse Code Use."


He hasn't done it YET. How long has it been?


He's embarassed that he ever utered such words. Might get him tossed
out of FISTS.

I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.


Good for you. Len is in favor of an age requirement.


What I "favor" is NOT allowed in here according to James P.
Miccolis, renowned amateur historian and mighty macho motivated
morseman extra. :-)


He is self-appointed.


But...he might have an "official certificate" (suitable for framing)
saying he IS one or both of those! :-)


I think I still have some blank Air Force certificates of thanks.

You gotta remember that these guys are almost always behind the times.


They'd probably be behind the Wall Street Journal...if they could
afford a copy. :-)


Having to build a tube transmitter probably saved him a bunch.

Now, if Jimmie wants to fire up his "state of the art" 1990s
vacuum tube Southgate Type 7 and beep to young boys with CW, let
him. It keeps him "happy" when he doesn't have to reveal a
thing about his REAL identity...on-off keying morse code cannot
reveal a single clue to gender, age, emotion, or anything else
while voice can tell much. Jimmie can, effectively, HIDE behind
his on-off key. Jimmie can be the "X-man superhero," a "masked
avenger" (like Captain Code) who keeps alive the old, Old, OLD
modes forever and ever. [long live 1844! :-) ]


But in all that anonymity, Jim know the sex, age, race, religion,
sexual preference, and political party of all those anonymous signals.

He's said so! Hi, hi!!!


He's a heckuva guy! :-)

Too bad he is turning into Dudly the Imposter, Jr.

Everyone is scrupulously honest in morse mode...they never ever
swear, are always civil towards one another, and never is heard
a discouraging word while the skies are not cloudy all day...

bit bit


Home, home on the RADAR Range...


[email protected] November 1st 05 12:52 AM

Another Len Quote
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

RST Engineering wrote:

Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

Jim


OK, from one Jim to another:

Novice 1967 (age 13)
Technician 1968
Advanced 1968
Extra 1970 (because of mandatory 2 year wait)

2nd Class Commercial Radiotelephone 1972

BSEE 1976 University of Pennsylvania
MSEE 1992 Drexel University

Coinventer US patent #5,358,202

I could go on...

Now I have some questions as to your credentials. Len
Anderson is a
sidewalk superintendent to amateur radio.



That's pretty impressive, Jim. You've been involved in quite a number of
things in and out of amateur radio. Even if I was
an "Internationally
acknowledged expert in the subject of hidden antennas", I don't think I
could bring myself to so describe myself.

Aside from your not including attributions, not signing your
post and
the top posting, you even manage to present some of your ideas here in a
reasonable manner.

My own credentials have been "on the table" for nearly a decade here in
r.r.a.p. One of those taking a knife to them on a regular
basis is
Leonard H. Anderson. He has routinely insulted my employment,
experience in radio (amateur, commercial and government), my
authorship
of amateur radio articles and even my German surname.



Don't forget military service...


That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.


It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.

He keeps alluding to MARS duty and I did spend time operating a
MARS circuit from Tan Son Nhut, but only in an off duty capacity.


That must be the MARS duty that he refers to. Or maybe not.

I can't claim
that I'm special in that regard though. Len does
similar things to
anyone who disagrees with him.


Also anyone who points out a mistake he makes or
proves him wrong about anything.


...or, come to think of it, anyone who even questions his methods or
motivation.


I think Len's a little too hard on you guys. I'm sure that your cuts
and jabs are given with the best of intentions.

Here's another fun quote from Len, made two years ago today:

Len wrote:

"Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English.


Ah yes. That was directed at me, wasn't it? I was never in the Marine
Corps.


Can you prove that? ;^)

As of 1 PM EST on the 27th of October the ARRL website news page had
NOTHING about the California wildfires. NOTHING.

Go "munch" someone else's shoes, preferrably some CROW as dessert."

- Leonard H. Anderson

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...514cd48c14fbb1

Then there's his classic "sphincters post", but you get the general
idea.


Len's description of what it was like to be under artillery fire--even
though he was never actually under artillery fire.


I thought that he was quoting W0EX or GrayJL or Xray or all three when
he said that.

That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.

Dave K8MN


But, but, but what if the Coslo BBS is up and running? Hi, hi!


[email protected] November 1st 05 09:38 PM

Another Len Quote
 
From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


RST Engineering wrote:


Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.


Jim


OK, from one Jim to another:


Novice 1967 (age 13)
Technician 1968
Advanced 1968
Extra 1970 (because of mandatory 2 year wait)


2nd Class Commercial Radiotelephone 1972


BSEE 1976 University of Pennsylvania
MSEE 1992 Drexel University


Coinventer US patent #5,358,202


I could go on...


But not much farther. Present employer unnamed. The patent is
described only as involving "vehicular technology" according
to one of Miccolis' old Comments on one of the 18 Petitions.
My sole-invention patent of 1974 is on RADIO. shrug


That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.


It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.


What DID Heil DO in Vietnam? He's never been anymore specific
than Dudly the Imposter (of the "seven hostile actions").


He keeps alluding to MARS duty and I did spend time operating a
MARS circuit from Tan Son Nhut, but only in an off duty capacity.


That must be the MARS duty that he refers to. Or maybe not.


Damifino. Heil just hasn't been specifc about it. Can't
"take shots" at something invisible. :-)

Poor Davie has forgotten my quoting from the Army Center for
Military History which mentions the good morale service that
Army MARS did in Vietnam.


I think Len's a little too hard on you guys. I'm sure that your cuts
and jabs are given with the best of intentions.


I'm sure Jack the Ripper thought the same... :-)

I'm also sure Ted Bundy thought all his female victims "were
asking for it."


Len's description of what it was like to be under artillery fire--even
though he was never actually under artillery fire.


I was once but it was from U.S. Army artillery. :-)

Just the same, the 8235th Army Unit (that I was in) never
allowed any Tokyo territory to fall into communist hands! :-)

At the same time, that same battalion of signalmen were
moving message "traffic" at the rate of 220 thousand a month
over the Army Command and Administrative Network (later
integrated into the DCS or Defense Communications System),
a worldwide network. All with TTY. Not a single morse code
link in that system since 1948.


I thought that he was quoting W0EX or GrayJL or Xray or all three when
he said that.


Irrelevant. If Davie says I did bad, then I did bad. He is
da Judge! "Heah come da judge...heah come da judge!"


That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country"). He ran for
Governor of California, had his picture in the L.A. Times as one
of many candidates. [a former Austrian citizen won the election]

I sent Jim Weir one of my computer programs (LCie4, synthesis and
analysis of passive-component inductor-capacitor filters) and he
stated that this (freeware) program has been used by his students
(successfully) in Grass Valley. We had some brief e-mail exchages
that resulted in my modifying the older LCie program to fit the
DOS 7 in newer Windows. LCie was written in MS FORTRAN 5.1 but on
an earlier operating system and that (now unsupported by MS)
FORTRAN did not have the compiler links to fit DOS 7. LCie4 runs
only under DOS, doesn't have the flash, dash, or pizazz of color
Windows but is nonetheless accurate and proven. It is freeware
to anyone requesting it...something I mentioned in rec.radio.
amateur.homebrew some time ago.

RST Engineering makes some neat electronics for general aviation
aircraft. RST has a nice website if anyone cares to look. One
of the neat things they do is what I would term "SURFACE MOUNT
VHF antennas" for aircraft fabric surfaces. :-) Neat! They
don't stick out in the airstream and thus have minimal drag.
[international civil aviation band is 108 to 137 MHz]


But, but, but what if the Coslo BBS is up and running? Hi, hi!


Then the Coslonaut will - once again - be "at the edge of
space!"

By the way, outer space is only a half hour's drive away...
provided your car can go straight UP. :-)

bit bit



[email protected] November 1st 05 09:43 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Oct 31, 4:42 pm

wrote:
From: on Oct 30, 2:31 pm
wrote:
From: on Oct 30, 5:50 am
wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2005 18:55:32 -0700, wrote:
wrote:




Ever notice that James P. Miccolis never concerned himself
at all about Dudly the Imposter calling me "Lennie" for
over a year in here? :-)


Jimmie thought he could get another to the dirty work he
craved. :-)


Jim is completely oblivious to everything except his own peeves.


That's IMPORTANT to him. Personally, I think he wants Dave
Sumner's job of writing editorials in QST for the ARRL.

He ought to do a historical article on how he pioneered
the NTS as a teen-age ham in those ancient days of the
1970s.


If he means me, *why* can't he just call me Jim, or N2EY?


All this confusion, then you go ahead and answer af if it were you he
was referring to. That is the lie that Mark refers to.


Further reinforcement of the misdirection onto Jimmie's demand
for FORMALITY and RESPECTFULNESS...when it comes to HIM. :-)


Whole nother set of rules for Jim.


PCTA Double Standard...alive and well in rrap.


MMMM.


The only "standard" that is allowed is unflagging allegiance
to the Order of the Church of St. Hiram.


Poor Jimmie. I dropped that "age requirement for amateur licensees"
six years ago and he just can't LET GO of it. He MUST keep on
arguing and arguing and arguing and arguing it over and over and
over and over again...perhaps hoping that I will "give in" or
acknowledge his Lordship's Superior Intellect or whatever. :-)


He just wants me to bring up him saying that "A Morse Code Exam would
be a barrier to Morse Code Use."


He hasn't done it YET. How long has it been?


He's embarassed that he ever utered such words. Might get him tossed
out of FISTS.


It's sort of like Dee Flint - experienced scoutmaster - wanting
to "explain" scouting to all...and especially to adult leaders.

By ignoring critique from those who actually know, they can
claim "message victory" and that they are really "right." :-)


I'm just opposed to a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio
license.


Good for you. Len is in favor of an age requirement.


What I "favor" is NOT allowed in here according to James P.
Miccolis, renowned amateur historian and mighty macho motivated
morseman extra. :-)


He is self-appointed.


But...he might have an "official certificate" (suitable for framing)
saying he IS one or both of those! :-)


I think I still have some blank Air Force certificates of thanks.


You could send a few to all those "military supporters" out
there. The first one ought to go to "Captain" Stevie Wonder
of the TN CAP for "outstanding service." [he stood out on the
flightline]

The second one ought to go to long-time supporter and athlete
cup holder Jimmie for all that extraordinary traffic direction
on the NTS and his historical knowledge of the military.


You gotta remember that these guys are almost always behind the times.


They'd probably be behind the Wall Street Journal...if they could
afford a copy. :-)


Having to build a tube transmitter probably saved him a bunch.


He made up for it in all the praise he got from all his neighbors
who came in to admire his extraordinary work and praise his
expertise in pioneering vacuum tube technology in the 1990s.


Everyone is scrupulously honest in morse mode...they never ever
swear, are always civil towards one another, and never is heard
a discouraging word while the skies are not cloudy all day...


Home, home on the RADAR Range...


Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599 filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005), I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications. Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license. They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert," "well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism. It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.

Must be wonderful to exist in such deep delusions of grandeur,
very satisfying, off in a wonderland of their own fantasies
of self-importance and Greatness. shrug




Dave Heil November 2nd 05 04:38 AM

Another Len Quote
 
wrote:
From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm


Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


RST Engineering wrote:


Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.



That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.


It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.



What DID Heil DO in Vietnam? He's never been anymore specific
than Dudly the Imposter (of the "seven hostile actions").


I see the sentence with my name in it. I see the sentence which follows
it. That is typical of your behavior. It is precisely the kind of
thing I wrote about above. There is a very accurate profile of your
likely actions toward those who disagree with you. Would you like to
see it?


He keeps alluding to MARS duty and I did spend time operating a
MARS circuit from Tan Son Nhut, but only in an off duty capacity.


That must be the MARS duty that he refers to. Or maybe not.



Damifino. Heil just hasn't been specifc about it. Can't
"take shots" at something invisible. :-)


Then again, you have already done so on a number of occasions. :-) :-)

Poor Davie has forgotten my quoting from the Army Center for
Military History which mentions the good morale service that
Army MARS did in Vietnam.


I've forgotten, have I? What're you, Madame Cleo?
I was never assigned to a MARS unit anywhere, anytime in the military.



I think Len's a little too hard on you guys. I'm sure that your cuts
and jabs are given with the best of intentions.



I'm sure Jack the Ripper thought the same... :-)

I'm also sure Ted Bundy thought all his female victims "were
asking for it."


I'm pretty certain that Len Anderson thinks he's somehow involved in
amateur radio too.


Len's description of what it was like to be under artillery fire--even
though he was never actually under artillery fire.



I was once but it was from U.S. Army artillery. :-)


Perhaps they'd heard of you. :-)

Just the same, the 8235th Army Unit (that I was in) never
allowed any Tokyo territory to fall into communist hands! :-)



At the same time, that same battalion of signalmen were
moving message "traffic" at the rate of 220 thousand a month
over the Army Command and Administrative Network (later
integrated into the DCS or Defense Communications System),
a worldwide network. All with TTY. Not a single morse code
link in that system since 1948.


It took an entire battalion of signalmen to do that, Len? All this
time, I was under the impression that you did it all by yourself.


I thought that he was quoting W0EX or GrayJL or Xray or all three when
he said that.



Irrelevant. If Davie says I did bad, then I did bad. He is
da Judge! "Heah come da judge...heah come da judge!"



That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.



James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").


Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.

He ran for
Governor of California, had his picture in the L.A. Times as one
of many candidates. [a former Austrian citizen won the election]


No doubt Jim's charm, as evidence here, was a factor.

I sent Jim Weir one of my computer programs (LCie4, synthesis and
analysis of passive-component inductor-capacitor filters) and he
stated that this (freeware) program has been used by his students
(successfully) in Grass Valley. We had some brief e-mail exchages
that resulted in my modifying the older LCie program to fit the
DOS 7 in newer Windows. LCie was written in MS FORTRAN 5.1 but on
an earlier operating system and that (now unsupported by MS)
FORTRAN did not have the compiler links to fit DOS 7. LCie4 runs
only under DOS, doesn't have the flash, dash, or pizazz of color
Windows but is nonetheless accurate and proven. It is freeware
to anyone requesting it...something I mentioned in rec.radio.
amateur.homebrew some time ago.


That's nice.

RST Engineering makes some neat electronics for general aviation
aircraft. RST has a nice website if anyone cares to look.


I looked at the web site. It isn't particularly nice. If one orders
online, the payment information isn't even sent securely.

One
of the neat things they do is what I would term "SURFACE MOUNT
VHF antennas" for aircraft fabric surfaces. :-) Neat! They
don't stick out in the airstream and thus have minimal drag.
[international civil aviation band is 108 to 137 MHz]


I've not noted many fabric surfaces on the aircraft I've seen in recent
decades. Thanks for providing the information on the aircraft band.
Perhaps nobody here knew where the band could be found. :-)

Dave K8MN

[email protected] November 2nd 05 11:16 AM

Another Len Quote
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm

Dave Heil wrote:


That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.



James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").


Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.


I've seen him on various r.r.a... groups for years.


Dave Heil November 2nd 05 04:25 PM

Another Len Quote
 
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm


Dave Heil wrote:



That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").


Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.



I've seen him on various r.r.a... groups for years.


That's you. I was writing about me. If the guy wants to play "maybe
you don't know who I am", I'm game. I didn't know who he was. Now that
I know, I don't much care. I don't have an airplane and don't live in
California.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] November 2nd 05 10:32 PM

Another Len Quote
 
From: Dave Heil on Nov 1, 8:38 pm

wrote:
From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:



Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.


It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.


What DID Heil DO in Vietnam? He's never been anymore specific
than Dudly the Imposter (of the "seven hostile actions").


I see the sentence with my name in it. I see the sentence which follows
it. That is typical of your behavior.


Heil did NOT answer the question. Heil did NOT supply any
details of what he did with a MARS thing in Tan Son Nhut.

Tsk, that too is "typical" of Heil's remarks in here. :-(


Damifino. Heil just hasn't been specifc about it. Can't
"take shots" at something invisible. :-)


Then again, you have already done so on a number of occasions. :-) :-)


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Heil have a guilty conscience?


Poor Davie has forgotten my quoting from the Army Center for
Military History which mentions the good morale service that
Army MARS did in Vietnam.


I've forgotten, have I? What're you, Madame Cleo?
I was never assigned to a MARS unit anywhere, anytime in the military.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Maybe Bob Hope never did a USO show at Tan
Son Nhut? :-)


I'm pretty certain that Len Anderson thinks he's somehow involved in
amateur radio too.


Pity the FCC then...they regulate and enforce ALL civil radio
in the United States, including amateur radio. Absolutely
none of the staff nor commissioners are required to be granted
any amateur radio license in order to regulate and enforce.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I'm just trying to eliminate the morse code test
from United States amateur radio regulations. According to the
United States Constitution (First Amendment), all citizens have
the RIGHT to free speech in the USA.


Just the same, the 8235th Army Unit (that I was in) never
allowed any Tokyo territory to fall into communist hands! :-)
At the same time, that same battalion of signalmen were
moving message "traffic" at the rate of 220 thousand a month
over the Army Command and Administrative Network (later
integrated into the DCS or Defense Communications System),
a worldwide network. All with TTY. Not a single morse code
link in that system since 1948.


It took an entire battalion of signalmen to do that, Len? All this
time, I was under the impression that you did it all by yourself.


Tsk, tsk. Davie can't "impress" people as he wishes.

I've never said what you think I did. I explained it several
times...but your mind can't grasp that, can it?

I explained that station ADA was operating "24/7" meaning (in
colloquial use) around-the-clock, every day of the week. You
said that "was never done." It was. It was done on a FAR
LARGER scale than any MARS facility anywhere. ADA did carry
MARS TTY traffic on a second-priority basis when the primary
circuit wasn't busy.

I explained the RESPONSIBILITY of team leaders in keeping the
transmitters up and operating, one part of the entire operation,
but you insist on word-twisting to suit your savage beast
within that wants to fight. All you wish to do is denigrate
anyone who did MORE in REAL HF radio than you did. Tsk, tsk.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").


Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.


Tsk, tsk. Jim Weir has posted in here for several years.

That YOU didn't notice that is not my concern.

YOU seem to "notice" only those posts where you can engage
in word fights with your "opponents." Down, big warrior.


He ran for
Governor of California, had his picture in the L.A. Times as one
of many candidates. [a former Austrian citizen won the election]


No doubt Jim's charm, as evidence here, was a factor.


Davie said, sarcasm dripping down his chin like alien slime...


I sent Jim Weir one of my computer programs (LCie4, synthesis and
analysis of passive-component inductor-capacitor filters) and he
stated that this (freeware) program has been used by his students
(successfully) in Grass Valley. We had some brief e-mail exchages
that resulted in my modifying the older LCie program to fit the
DOS 7 in newer Windows. LCie was written in MS FORTRAN 5.1 but on
an earlier operating system and that (now unsupported by MS)
FORTRAN did not have the compiler links to fit DOS 7. LCie4 runs
only under DOS, doesn't have the flash, dash, or pizazz of color
Windows but is nonetheless accurate and proven. It is freeware
to anyone requesting it...something I mentioned in rec.radio.
amateur.homebrew some time ago.


That's nice.


Damn straight. LCie4 IS a very nice program for quickly and
accurately synthesizing (designing) and analyzing a passive L-C
filter of lowpass, highpass, bandpass, or bandstop configuration.
The user can optionally change component values, modify Q of
inductors or capacitors, do printouts of schematics or analysis
results (or store them in a file), analyze input and output
impedances in lieu of normal decibel insertion loss, phase change,
or group delay. It's been proven in real hardware results that
came out exactly as predicted.


RST Engineering makes some neat electronics for general aviation
aircraft. RST has a nice website if anyone cares to look.


I looked at the web site. It isn't particularly nice. If one orders
online, the payment information isn't even sent securely.


You aren't involved in general aviation. You have NO business
with general aviation let alone private flying. Why are YOU
being critical of something you aren't even close to being
involved in?

Why are YOU being critical of someone else's website to ME?

You don't even live in California. You have NO business with
any California elections of any kind. Why do you give a ****
of any elections of governors in California or state politics?

One
of the neat things they do is what I would term "SURFACE MOUNT
VHF antennas" for aircraft fabric surfaces. :-) Neat! They
don't stick out in the airstream and thus have minimal drag.
[international civil aviation band is 108 to 137 MHz]


I've not noted many fabric surfaces on the aircraft I've seen in recent
decades.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. There are tens of thousands of general aviation
aircraft having "fabric" covering in United States registry
alone. That YOU "haven't seen them" doesn't mean they exist.
In a half hour's drive from my residence, I can go to two major
airports and one air park that have well over a thousand such
"fabric" covered aircraft.

You said nothing about "surface mounting," indicating you are
unable to perceive any humor (as in "SMD" now the common method
of electronics hardware construction) or the fact that MOST of
a general aviation aircraft structure UNDER the skin is largely
empty. Any antenna can thus be mounted on the surface of a
non-conductive skin and be largely unaffected on characteristics
in that position. Rather basic EM theory involved there, but
meaningless to those who will not bother to think about basic
radio theory.

Thanks for providing the information on the aircraft band.
Perhaps nobody here knew where the band could be found.


YOU have NO BUSINESS with general aviation concerns, are NOT
INVOLVED. It is no surprise that those who are NOT INVOLVED
would be ignorant of technical details. Amateur radio is NOT
INVOLVED with the international civil aviation band in VHF or
the specific frequencies for that in the HF spectrum.

If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to show your
ignorance. You haven't yet.

With warmest, best regards,




[email protected] November 2nd 05 11:01 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
wrote:

Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?

Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines
on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...
which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license.


You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.

They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential
ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert,"
"well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism.


And what do *you* believe deep in your little heart, Len?

It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.

A few days ago, you wrote:

"3. The attitude towards morse code testing in the U.S.
amateur community has been CHANGING all along...AWAY from
the old, Old, OLD standards and practices." - Len Anderson

But the filings on WT 05-235 show that the majority (55%!) of
those who commented want at least some code testing. That
majority is almost identical to those supporting more than
one code test speed back in 1998.

Another quote from what you wrote a few days ago:

"That seems to **** you off greatly and makes you petulant, whiny, and
accusatory. Tsk." - Len Anderson

A perfect lead-in to the following:

Must be wonderful to exist in such deep
delusions of grandeur,
very satisfying, off in a wonderland of
their own fantasies
of self-importance and Greatness. shrug


It's interesting that you will go on and on and on
about the motivations of people you've never met,
but you won't tell us *your* motivations for
changing the regulations of the Amateur Radio Service.
Which is a radio service you are not involved in.


[email protected] November 2nd 05 11:07 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
On 2 Nov 2005 15:01:08 -0800, wrote:

wrote:

Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?


what majority?


Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines
on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...
which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license.


You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.


so what you keep beating that dead horse it smells pretty bad by now


They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential
ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert,"
"well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism.


And what do *you* believe deep in your little heart, Len?

It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.


nice to see the ARRL can whip it some of it memebrs into a lather

and of course your logica is Flawed in suggesting that all Ham favor
coded extra oppose Code free general making the No code position
clearly the purality

and indeed the coded extra support just shows the foolish ness of the
Procode side

if there is any need for code testing at HF it applies to the general
as well as the Extras

so the Procode side merely shows itself as being for restriction whad
enough flushing the restN
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[email protected] November 3rd 05 12:26 AM

Another Len Quote
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm


Dave Heil wrote:



That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").

Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.



I've seen him on various r.r.a... groups for years.


That's you. I was writing about me. If the guy wants to play "maybe
you don't know who I am", I'm game. I didn't know who he was. Now that
I know, I don't much care. I don't have an airplane and don't live in
California.

Dave K8MN


You're welcome to let not knowing people define your presence on rrap.

Best of Luck.


Dave Heil November 3rd 05 12:37 AM

Another Len Quote
 
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:


From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm



Dave Heil wrote:


That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").

Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.


I've seen him on various r.r.a... groups for years.


That's you. I was writing about me. If the guy wants to play "maybe
you don't know who I am", I'm game. I didn't know who he was. Now that
I know, I don't much care. I don't have an airplane and don't live in
California.


You're welcome to let not knowing people define your presence on rrap.

Best of Luck.


I'm free to reject the implication that I'm supposed to know who "Jim"
"RST-Engineering" is. As Leonard H. Anderon pointed out, I have no
business in civil aviation and no business in California politics. I
like it that way.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] November 3rd 05 12:38 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
wrote:

Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?


Steve agreed with removing the Morse Code Exam. I guess that makes him
"progressive."

Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines
on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...
which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license.


You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.


That would make Len "unbiased."

They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential
ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert,"
"well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism.


And what do *you* believe deep in your little heart, Len?


That there is a God?

It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.


Sounds like several of the amateurs that remain on this news group.

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.


Where did your numbers come from?

A few days ago, you wrote:

"3. The attitude towards morse code testing in the U.S.
amateur community has been CHANGING all along...AWAY from
the old, Old, OLD standards and practices." - Len Anderson

But the filings on WT 05-235 show that the majority (55%!) of
those who commented want at least some code testing. That
majority is almost identical to those supporting more than
one code test speed back in 1998.


Show your work.

Another quote from what you wrote a few days ago:

"That seems to **** you off greatly and makes you petulant, whiny, and
accusatory. Tsk." - Len Anderson

A perfect lead-in to the following:

Must be wonderful to exist in such deep
delusions of grandeur,
very satisfying, off in a wonderland of
their own fantasies
of self-importance and Greatness. shrug


It's interesting that you will go on and on and on
about the motivations of people you've never met,
but you won't tell us *your* motivations for
changing the regulations of the Amateur Radio Service.
Which is a radio service you are not involved in.


Lots of people deciding the outcome of the NPRM are not involved "in"
amateur radio.


K4YZ November 3rd 05 11:16 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?


Steve agreed with removing the Morse Code Exam. I guess that makes him
"progressive."


That's not what I said.

I said I am in favor of allowing some access to HF without the
Morse exam.

I also said I favor retaining the Morse exam for the Extra Class
license and for limiting access to those frequencies where Morse is
most used where the licensee has not demonstrated at least some
proficiency in Morse Code.

Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines
on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...
which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license.


You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.


That would make Len "unbiased."


No, it would not.

It VERY heavily predisposes Lennie to a specific view.

They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential
ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert,"
"well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism.


And what do *you* believe deep in your little heart, Len?


That there is a God


Is there? Really?

It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.


Sounds like several of the amateurs that remain on this news group.


Such as?

Seems everyone here, myself included, have expressed many different
ideas on a great many issues.

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.


Where did your numbers come from?


The FCC via Lennie's previous posts.

Why?

A few days ago, you wrote:

"3. The attitude towards morse code testing in the U.S.
amateur community has been CHANGING all along...AWAY from
the old, Old, OLD standards and practices." - Len Anderson

But the filings on WT 05-235 show that the majority (55%!) of
those who commented want at least some code testing. That
majority is almost identical to those supporting more than
one code test speed back in 1998.


Show your work.


It's LENNIE'S Work, Brain...The number are fluid, of course, but
as of his last compilation, those numbers still come pretty close.

Another quote from what you wrote a few days ago:

"That seems to **** you off greatly and makes you petulant, whiny, and
accusatory. Tsk." - Len Anderson

A perfect lead-in to the following:

Must be wonderful to exist in such deep
delusions of grandeur,
very satisfying, off in a wonderland of
their own fantasies
of self-importance and Greatness. shrug


It's interesting that you will go on and on and on
about the motivations of people you've never met,
but you won't tell us *your* motivations for
changing the regulations of the Amateur Radio Service.
Which is a radio service you are not involved in.


Lots of people deciding the outcome of the NPRM are not involved "in"
amateur radio.


No...A FEW people are.

Steve, K4YZ


Dee Flint November 3rd 05 12:01 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:


[snip]

Steve agreed with removing the Morse Code Exam. I guess that makes him
"progressive."


That's not what I said.

I said I am in favor of allowing some access to HF without the
Morse exam.

I also said I favor retaining the Morse exam for the Extra Class
license and for limiting access to those frequencies where Morse is
most used where the licensee has not demonstrated at least some
proficiency in Morse Code.


I would disagree with this approach. Here's why.

Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio. There
are two ways to get people to learn it. One, which is what we have now, is
to tie the most desired privilege (HF voice) to the subject that they least
desire to study. However there is a second way. Allow the novices and
techs CW privileges only on the General HF bands without any further
testing. They can have HF voice, digital, etc at any time they then pass
the whatever the test will be in the future for General. This gives them a
taste of HF. I would happily work them as slow as they want to go in order
to encourage the use of CW.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Dave Heil November 3rd 05 06:04 PM

Another Len Quote
 
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Nov 1, 8:38 pm


wrote:

From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

RST Engineering wrote:




Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.


It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.


What DID Heil DO in Vietnam? He's never been anymore specific
than Dudly the Imposter (of the "seven hostile actions").


I see the sentence with my name in it. I see the sentence which follows
it. That is typical of your behavior.



Heil did NOT answer the question.


No, I didn't, did I? You routinely ignore questions asked of you.

Heil did NOT supply any
details of what he did with a MARS thing in Tan Son Nhut.


I knew of no MARS thing. I've stated here that I spent time operating a
MARS station in my off duty time.

Tsk, that too is "typical" of Heil's remarks in here. :-(


Tsk. If you'd like to find out more about USAF MARS operation in
Vietnam, feel free to search a few web sites, do a cut and paste job and
post a lengthy treatise on the subject as if it were your own work.
That'd be typical of your remarks in here. :-(


Damifino. Heil just hasn't been specifc about it. Can't
"take shots" at something invisible. :-)


Then again, you have already done so on a number of occasions. :-) :-)



Tsk, tsk, tsk. Heil have a guilty conscience?


Why would I have a guilty conscience over what you do?


Poor Davie has forgotten my quoting from the Army Center for
Military History which mentions the good morale service that
Army MARS did in Vietnam.


I've forgotten, have I? What're you, Madame Cleo?
I was never assigned to a MARS unit anywhere, anytime in the military.



Tsk, tsk, tsk. Maybe Bob Hope never did a USO show at Tan
Son Nhut? :-)


Bob Hope? Did he operate a MARS station in his spare time?



I'm pretty certain that Len Anderson thinks he's somehow involved in
amateur radio too.



Pity the FCC then...they regulate and enforce ALL civil radio
in the United States, including amateur radio. Absolutely
none of the staff nor commissioners are required to be granted
any amateur radio license in order to regulate and enforce.


You keep confusing yourself with those paid to regulate amateur radio
and with those who participate in amateur radio. You're neither.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I'm just trying to eliminate the morse code test
from United States amateur radio regulations.


You surely are. I saw all six of your submissions to the FCC on 05-235.
For what possible purpose have you fixated on morse code testing in
something in which you have no stake?

According to the
United States Constitution (First Amendment), all citizens have
the RIGHT to free speech in the USA.


A RIGHT isn't the same as an OBLIGATION. You spoke six time more than I
on 05-235. Are you supposed to be more entitled to speak?



Just the same, the 8235th Army Unit (that I was in) never
allowed any Tokyo territory to fall into communist hands! :-)
At the same time, that same battalion of signalmen were
moving message "traffic" at the rate of 220 thousand a month
over the Army Command and Administrative Network (later
integrated into the DCS or Defense Communications System),
a worldwide network. All with TTY. Not a single morse code
link in that system since 1948.


It took an entire battalion of signalmen to do that, Len? All this
time, I was under the impression that you did it all by yourself.



Tsk, tsk. Davie can't "impress" people as he wishes.


Tskity tasket. You created the impression.

I've never said what you think I did. I explained it several
times...but your mind can't grasp that, can it?

I explained that station ADA was operating "24/7" meaning (in
colloquial use) around-the-clock, every day of the week. You
said that "was never done." It was.


A Google search will review that you've been less than truthful. You
maintained that *you*, Leonard H. Anderson, had worked 24/7. You
didn't. Nobody can work 24/7. Would you like to see your words again,
in the interests of clarity?

It was done on a FAR
LARGER scale than any MARS facility anywhere. ADA did carry
MARS TTY traffic on a second-priority basis when the primary
circuit wasn't busy.


Why are you suddenly fixated on MARS traffic?

I explained the RESPONSIBILITY of team leaders in keeping the
transmitters up and operating, one part of the entire operation,
but you insist on word-twisting to suit your savage beast
within that wants to fight.


Were you a team leader, Len? Are you still claiming that you worked 24
hours per day, seven days per week in any single week at any time, anywhere?

All you wish to do is denigrate
anyone who did MORE in REAL HF radio than you did. Tsk, tsk.


Do you believe that you have more experience in HF radio operation than
I? Tsk, tsk and a couple of poor baby's thrown in.

James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").


Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.



Tsk, tsk. Jim Weir has posted in here for several years.


Funny, I don't remember seeing a post from "RST Engineering" until quite
recently.

That YOU didn't notice that is not my concern.


No, it isn't. So tell me, why are you concerning yourself with it?

YOU seem to "notice" only those posts where you can engage
in word fights with your "opponents." Down, big warrior.


If what you've stated is correct, then how'd I get into exchange with
somebody named Jim Weir, whom you've said I didn't notice?


He ran for
Governor of California, had his picture in the L.A. Times as one
of many candidates. [a former Austrian citizen won the election]


No doubt Jim's charm, as evidence here, was a factor.



Davie said, sarcasm dripping down his chin like alien slime...


Davie? Well, Lennie, my comment was meant to be sarcastic. I don't
know anything about alien slime though. That's quite an active
imagination you have.



I sent Jim Weir one of my computer programs (LCie4, synthesis and
analysis of passive-component inductor-capacitor filters) and he
stated that this (freeware) program has been used by his students
(successfully) in Grass Valley. We had some brief e-mail exchages
that resulted in my modifying the older LCie program to fit the
DOS 7 in newer Windows. LCie was written in MS FORTRAN 5.1 but on
an earlier operating system and that (now unsupported by MS)
FORTRAN did not have the compiler links to fit DOS 7. LCie4 runs
only under DOS, doesn't have the flash, dash, or pizazz of color
Windows but is nonetheless accurate and proven. It is freeware
to anyone requesting it...something I mentioned in rec.radio.
amateur.homebrew some time ago.


That's nice.



Damn straight.


I don't know if it is straight. I said, "that's nice".

LCie4 IS a very nice program for quickly and
accurately synthesizing (designing) and analyzing a passive L-C
filter of lowpass, highpass, bandpass, or bandstop configuration.
The user can optionally change component values, modify Q of
inductors or capacitors, do printouts of schematics or analysis
results (or store them in a file), analyze input and output
impedances in lieu of normal decibel insertion loss, phase change,
or group delay. It's been proven in real hardware results that
came out exactly as predicted.


I see--and anytime anyone tells you, "that's nice", you have to describe
it in further detail?

RST Engineering makes some neat electronics for general aviation
aircraft. RST has a nice website if anyone cares to look.


I looked at the web site. It isn't particularly nice. If one orders
online, the payment information isn't even sent securely.



You aren't involved in general aviation. You have NO business
with general aviation let alone private flying. Why are YOU
being critical of something you aren't even close to being
involved in?


You just told us that the firm has a nice web site if any cared to look
at it? Was your comment insincere? At you suggestion, I went and
looked at it. I gave you my opinion. The site isn't slick or glitzy
and it doesn't offer secure ordering. All in all, it looks rather
homemade.

Why are YOU being critical of someone else's website to ME?


Why did you suggest that we go look at it if you weren't prepared for
comments?

You don't even live in California. You have NO business with
any California elections of any kind. Why do you give a ****
of any elections of governors in California or state politics?


You're right. I don't live in California and don't have any business in
its state elections. You're the one who brought the subject up. Why
are you posting the stuff in r.r.a.p. ?


One
of the neat things they do is what I would term "SURFACE MOUNT
VHF antennas" for aircraft fabric surfaces. :-) Neat! They
don't stick out in the airstream and thus have minimal drag.
[international civil aviation band is 108 to 137 MHz]


I've not noted many fabric surfaces on the aircraft I've seen in recent
decades.



Tsk, tsk, tsk. There are tens of thousands of general aviation
aircraft having "fabric" covering in United States registry
alone.


The low end stuff, huh? That's ancient technology, Len.

That YOU "haven't seen them" doesn't mean they exist.


Right. It's sort of like the details of my service in Vietnam. Just
because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

In a half hour's drive from my residence, I can go to two major
airports and one air park that have well over a thousand such
"fabric" covered aircraft.


Well, I'll be darned. I don't have to put up with all that noise.

You said nothing about "surface mounting," indicating you are
unable to perceive any humor (as in "SMD" now the common method
of electronics hardware construction) or the fact that MOST of
a general aviation aircraft structure UNDER the skin is largely
empty.


That's real rib-tickling stuff, Len. If the engineering stuff starts to
peter out, you might consider a career as a retired (from regular hours)
standup comic. That surface mount stuff should slay an audience.

Any antenna can thus be mounted on the surface of a
non-conductive skin and be largely unaffected on characteristics
in that position.


Really? Let me write all this stuff down for future reference. Does
that mean I could enclose an antenna in fibreglas or PVC? Could I mount
such an antenna in an attic? What'll they think of next?

Rather basic EM theory involved there, but
meaningless to those who will not bother to think about basic
radio theory.


I can see that those who don't bother to think about basic radio theory
might have problems grasping the concept.


Thanks for providing the information on the aircraft band.
Perhaps nobody here knew where the band could be found.



YOU have NO BUSINESS with general aviation concerns, are NOT
INVOLVED.


Does this mean I'll have to sell my scanner?

It is no surprise that those who are NOT INVOLVED
would be ignorant of technical details.


A spread of frequencies is a technical detail?

Amateur radio is NOT
INVOLVED with the international civil aviation band in VHF or
the specific frequencies for that in the HF spectrum.


By George, I think you may have a point. Why are you writing about it
here then?

If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to show your
ignorance. You haven't yet.


I realize that I haven't shown it yet. Thanks for the kudos.

Keep plugging along with that copy of "Now Your Talking", old timer.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil November 3rd 05 06:15 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 15:01:08 -0800,
wrote:


wrote:


Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?



what majority?


Where've you been? Did you miss the news about the hurricanes and
Scooter Libby's indictment too?

Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines
on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...
which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license.


You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.



so what you keep beating that dead horse it smells pretty bad by now


Yep, Len's carcass is beginning to stink up the joint after that "Extra
right out of the box" comment.


They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential
ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert,"
"well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism.


And what do *you* believe deep in your little heart, Len?


It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.



nice to see the ARRL can whip it some of it memebrs into a lather


Is it your opinion that the ARRL told its membership what view to take
in commenting on the 05-235 issue?

and of course your logica is Flawed in suggesting that all Ham favor
coded extra oppose Code free general making the No code position
clearly the purality


What is clear is that you comprehend what Jim wrote.

and indeed the coded extra support just shows the foolish ness of the
Procode side


I know it'll be a stretch, but do you think you could tell us what
thought processes took place in your formulation of such a view?

if there is any need for code testing at HF it applies to the general
as well as the Extras


Good idea, Mark.

so the Procode side merely shows itself as being for restriction whad
enough flushing the restN


Let's see if I have this correct: The procode testing side is for
restriction whad enough flushing the rest? Can that be what you meant
to convey?

Dave K8MN

[email protected] November 3rd 05 10:59 PM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Nov 2, 4:38 pm


wrote:
wrote:


Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?


Steve agreed with removing the Morse Code Exam. I guess that makes him
"progressive."


Robeson is still nuts, but maybe "progressively" nuts.

Jimmie is a whining little crybaby who loves to engage in
word "food fights" about minutae. In any other venue this
would be HECKLING.

Both are growing ALIKE in behavior. Scary thought, ey?

Jimmie thinks he knows ALL about long-time-ago radio. Thing is,
he did NOT work in radio a half century ago. I did. But,
Jimmie has READ a LOT about long-time-ago radio and must think
he "knows" about it...just like he "knows" all about military
life and how it feels to be geographically close to unfriendlies
during the Cold War.

There have now been 3,687 filings on WT Docket 05-235 at the FCC.
That is, very roughly, only 1% of all U.S. licensees including
or excluding those in their grace period. Statistically, that
small number would be rather marginal for any REAL determination
of either minority or majority.

However, from the TEXT of those who are against the NPRM, it is
rather obvious that the MAJORITY of THOSE are still stuck in
the morse myths and standards-practices in amateur radio of
the 1930s. Some of those believe they are engaging in some
kind of "service to their nation" by their ham radio hobby.

[the FCC uses the word "service" as a regulatory term, denoting
a type and kind of radio being regulated...such as Citizens
Band Radio SERVICE]


You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.


That would make Len "unbiased."


Irrelevant to Jimmie. Jimmie NEVER operated any HF
transmitter in the 1950s. Jimmie NEVER got any FCC
license in that time. I did both. [First 'Phone in
1956 at an FCC Field Office in Chicago, one sitting,
no retries and passed]

Us readers do NOT know for sure whether or not Jimmie EVER
worked in ANY radio service OTHER than amateur radio. He
won't say in public. Jimmie hasn't admitted that all radio
works by the SAME laws of physics. Since that is established
fact, the distinction between 'amateur' and any other kind or
type of radio is solely an adminstrative differentiation by
a radio regulating agency. Jimmie wants to make amateur radio
technology/operation somehow SPAY-SHUL and "more advanced"
than any commercial or military radio. The Church Lady is
in fine form...

secular discussion omitted as not pertinent to "score cards"


It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.


Sounds like several of the amateurs that remain on this news group.


Sounds like ALL the pro-morse persons in here with the
exception of Hans Brakob.


The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.


Where did your numbers come from?


Probably from that "Secret Source" of his that he will NOT name.

Robeson still hasn't produced his "secret source" on the ex-
NADC person who supposedly did a "performance review" of my
assignment there for RCA Corporation in 1971. [NO such
"review" was ever done on contractor-visitor personnel]

Jimmie KNOWS things mo' bettah than anyone. Sigh.


But the filings on WT 05-235 show that the majority (55%!) of
those who commented want at least some code testing. That
majority is almost identical to those supporting more than
one code test speed back in 1998.


Show your work.


He will NOT. All must "show their work" to HIM if HE
requests it.

Jimmie's numbers are "accurate" by definition...of Jimmie.
None may question that. [if they do, he goes into long,
long, long, lonnnnng posts 'challenging' minutae in
everything the challenger has said]



It's interesting that you will go on and on and on
about the motivations of people you've never met,
but you won't tell us *your* motivations for
changing the regulations of the Amateur Radio Service.
Which is a radio service you are not involved in.


Lots of people deciding the outcome of the NPRM are not involved "in"
amateur radio.


Irrelevant to Jimmie or any other PCTA in here. They haven't
looked at the FCC budget figures showing how many work there.

Jimmie is still stuck in "fraternal" concepts of rule. He
apparently doesn't understand that a single federal agency
regulates ALL of U.S. civil radio (i.e., non-government,
non-military). The Laws of Congress (Communications Act of
1934, Telecommunications Act of 1996) have NOT required
ANYONE in the FCC to hold amateur radio license grants.

Jimmie and the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) think
they are a "law" unto themselves. Bless the ARRL for
continuing reinforcement of that conditioned thinking.
Want to GET INTO amateur radio? Follow the 'rule' of the
Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society and test for beeping.
No beep, no get into HF ham bands. Gosh, and they did NOT
tell the Army about that a half century ago!

The fraternal order doesn't want non-beepers dirtying up
their private sandbox. Their sand is elite. But their
sand is also sometimes used for kitty litter.

Beep, beep




[email protected] November 4th 05 12:00 AM

Another Len Quote
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:


From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm



Dave Heil wrote:


That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").

Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.


I've seen him on various r.r.a... groups for years.

That's you. I was writing about me. If the guy wants to play "maybe
you don't know who I am", I'm game. I didn't know who he was. Now that
I know, I don't much care. I don't have an airplane and don't live in
California.


You're welcome to let not knowing people define your presence on rrap.

Best of Luck.


I'm free to reject the implication that I'm supposed to know who "Jim"
"RST-Engineering" is. As Leonard H. Anderon pointed out, I have no
business in civil aviation and no business in California politics. I
like it that way.

Dave K8MN


Yet I was supposed to know who a guy was who posted in here a couple of
times.

You'se guys sure do hang on to that PCTA double-standard.


Dave Heil November 4th 05 12:03 AM

Another Len Quote
 
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:



wrote:



From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm




Dave Heil wrote:


That brings us back to RST Jim. It is apparent that he's done a number
of things in amateur radio. Perhaps he hasn't been around long enough
to see who and what Len Anderson is. Maybe his agenda in defending Len
is something entirely different. Perhaps he'll explain. I'll be around
after the CQ WW SSB DX 'test.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").

Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.


I've seen him on various r.r.a... groups for years.

That's you. I was writing about me. If the guy wants to play "maybe
you don't know who I am", I'm game. I didn't know who he was. Now that
I know, I don't much care. I don't have an airplane and don't live in
California.


You're welcome to let not knowing people define your presence on rrap.

Best of Luck.


I'm free to reject the implication that I'm supposed to know who "Jim"
"RST-Engineering" is. As Leonard H. Anderon pointed out, I have no
business in civil aviation and no business in California politics. I
like it that way.

Dave K8MN



Yet I was supposed to know who a guy was who posted in here a couple of
times.

You'se guys sure do hang on to that PCTA double-standard.


I have no idea who or what you've written about. I'm not going to play
guessing games with you.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] November 4th 05 12:15 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.

Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?


Steve agreed with removing the Morse Code Exam. I guess that makes him
"progressive."


That's not what I said.


It's what CQ magazine said that you said.

I said I am in favor of allowing some access to HF without the
Morse exam.


You did use a couple of double negatives to disallow non code-tested
hams access to narrowband operations.

I also said I favor retaining the Morse exam for the Extra Class
license and for limiting access to those frequencies where Morse is
most used where the licensee has not demonstrated at least some
proficiency in Morse Code.


CQ didn't indicate that.

Their bliss
over the efficacy of morsemanship shines
on under skies unclouded
by progress in technology...
which had already begun before they
got their first amateur license.

You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.


That would make Len "unbiased."


No, it would not.

It VERY heavily predisposes Lennie to a specific view.


He has no vested interest in Amateur Radio.

They BELIEVE deep in their
little hearts that morsemanship is THE essential
ingredient in
becoming an extra-super-special radio "expert,"
"well-rounded"
and a "leader" in amateurism.

And what do *you* believe deep in your little heart, Len?


That there is a God


Is there? Really?


Is there?

It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.

Sounds like sour grapes on your part.


Sounds like several of the amateurs that remain on this news group.


Such as?

Seems everyone here, myself included, have expressed many different
ideas on a great many issues.


Your ideas are usually summed up with, "putz, liar, deceit, coward,
dialing..."

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.


Where did your numbers come from?


The FCC via Lennie's previous posts.

Why?


Did Jim check Len's work?

A few days ago, you wrote:

"3. The attitude towards morse code testing in the U.S.
amateur community has been CHANGING all along...AWAY from
the old, Old, OLD standards and practices." - Len Anderson

But the filings on WT 05-235 show that the majority (55%!) of
those who commented want at least some code testing. That
majority is almost identical to those supporting more than
one code test speed back in 1998.


Show your work.


It's LENNIE'S Work, Brain...The number are fluid, of course, but
as of his last compilation, those numbers still come pretty close.


So Jim just takes Len's work and posts it as his own, without even
checking the validity of it?

Another quote from what you wrote a few days ago:

"That seems to **** you off greatly and makes you petulant, whiny, and
accusatory. Tsk." - Len Anderson

A perfect lead-in to the following:

Must be wonderful to exist in such deep
delusions of grandeur,
very satisfying, off in a wonderland of
their own fantasies
of self-importance and Greatness. shrug

It's interesting that you will go on and on and on
about the motivations of people you've never met,
but you won't tell us *your* motivations for
changing the regulations of the Amateur Radio Service.
Which is a radio service you are not involved in.


Lots of people deciding the outcome of the NPRM are not involved "in"
amateur radio.


No...A FEW people are.

Steve, K4YZ


No license required to have an opinion wrt amateur radio. No license
required to enforce amateur radio rules. No license required to
restructure the ARS. No license required to drop the morse code exam.

And that's the way it is.


[email protected] November 4th 05 12:28 AM

Free Ride, was Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

Dee Flint wrote:

I would disagree with this approach. Here's why.

Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio.


Why is it that you only want volunteers to take up the burden of
learning morse code on "thier" free time and equip morse code radio
stations at their own expense?

Why wouldn't you want paid, professional radio operators and radio
users to know Morse Code? Especially paid emergency communicators and
emergency responders.

If the government needed or wanted morse code radio operators, they
should create a GS5-7-9-11 series and get them.

But the PCTA are more than willing to donate other people's free time
and money in order to provide the government with something it doesn't
want and doesn't want to pay for, just so you'll have someone to QSL
with on the low end of the bands.

Thanks a lot


[email protected] November 4th 05 12:46 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
From: on Nov 2, 4:38 pm


wrote:
wrote:


Well, after (ugh) reading through 3,599
filings on the FCC ECFS
under WT Docket 05-235 (up to 31 October 2005),
I'm convinced
that way too many radio amateurs are still
stuck to the glorious
past of a half century ago in radio communications.


Why, Len? Because the *majority* disagree with you?


Steve agreed with removing the Morse Code Exam. I guess that makes him
"progressive."


Robeson is still nuts, but maybe "progressively" nuts.

Jimmie is a whining little crybaby who loves to engage in
word "food fights" about minutae. In any other venue this
would be HECKLING.


Yep.

Both are growing ALIKE in behavior. Scary thought, ey?


"Dialing..."

Jimmie thinks he knows ALL about long-time-ago radio. Thing is,
he did NOT work in radio a half century ago. I did. But,
Jimmie has READ a LOT about long-time-ago radio


In the amateur radio literature from one amateur radio publication
house.

and must think
he "knows" about it...just like he "knows" all about military
life and how it feels to be geographically close to unfriendlies
during the Cold War.


Did he get his "Cold War" certificate?

There have now been 3,687 filings on WT Docket 05-235 at the FCC.
That is, very roughly, only 1% of all U.S. licensees including
or excluding those in their grace period. Statistically, that
small number would be rather marginal for any REAL determination
of either minority or majority.

However, from the TEXT of those who are against the NPRM, it is
rather obvious that the MAJORITY of THOSE are still stuck in
the morse myths and standards-practices in amateur radio of
the 1930s. Some of those believe they are engaging in some
kind of "service to their nation" by their ham radio hobby.


See my reply to Dee about communicators needing morse code.

[the FCC uses the word "service" as a regulatory term, denoting
a type and kind of radio being regulated...such as Citizens
Band Radio SERVICE]


Correct.

You haven't got *your* first amateur radio license, Len.


That would make Len "unbiased."


Irrelevant to Jimmie. Jimmie NEVER operated any HF
transmitter in the 1950s. Jimmie NEVER got any FCC
license in that time. I did both. [First 'Phone in
1956 at an FCC Field Office in Chicago, one sitting,
no retries and passed]


But, but, but...

Us readers do NOT know for sure whether or not Jimmie EVER
worked in ANY radio service OTHER than amateur radio. He
won't say in public. Jimmie hasn't admitted that all radio
works by the SAME laws of physics. Since that is established
fact, the distinction between 'amateur' and any other kind or
type of radio is solely an adminstrative differentiation by
a radio regulating agency. Jimmie wants to make amateur radio
technology/operation somehow SPAY-SHUL and "more advanced"
than any commercial or military radio. The Church Lady is
in fine form...


The government doesn't want morse code in "thier" radio services.

secular discussion omitted as not pertinent to "score cards"


Fair enough.

It's a Belief so deep, so basic,
that they are convinced that ALL morsemen
are "experts" on
everything and those who don't Believe
as they do are heretics
who know nothing about everything.


Sounds like sour grapes on your part.


Sounds like several of the amateurs that remain on this news group.


Sounds like ALL the pro-morse persons in here with the
exception of Hans Brakob.


Hans has long advocated eliminating the morse code tests and limiting
license classes to two; Unlimited and Learner Permit.

The actual count of individuals commenting showed that
once duplicates and nonresponsive filings were removed,
55% of those commenting support at least a Morse Code
test for Extra. Only 45% support the NPRM, with its
complete removal of Morse Code testing.


Where did your numbers come from?


Probably from that "Secret Source" of his that he will NOT name.

Robeson still hasn't produced his "secret source" on the ex-
NADC person who supposedly did a "performance review" of my
assignment there for RCA Corporation in 1971. [NO such
"review" was ever done on contractor-visitor personnel]

Jimmie KNOWS things mo' bettah than anyone. Sigh.


He is always the victor in any discussion, um, errr, I meant argument.

But the filings on WT 05-235 show that the majority (55%!) of
those who commented want at least some code testing. That
majority is almost identical to those supporting more than
one code test speed back in 1998.


Show your work.


He will NOT. All must "show their work" to HIM if HE
requests it.

Jimmie's numbers are "accurate" by definition...of Jimmie.


Except his "moon distance" numbers. In all fairness, he might have
been referring to any one of Jupiter's moons.

None may question that. [if they do, he goes into long,
long, long, lonnnnng posts 'challenging' minutae in
everything the challenger has said]


The Steve shows up and everything is lies, Lies, LIES!

It's interesting that you will go on and on and on
about the motivations of people you've never met,
but you won't tell us *your* motivations for
changing the regulations of the Amateur Radio Service.
Which is a radio service you are not involved in.


Lots of people deciding the outcome of the NPRM are not involved "in"
amateur radio.


Irrelevant to Jimmie or any other PCTA in here. They haven't
looked at the FCC budget figures showing how many work there.

Jimmie is still stuck in "fraternal" concepts of rule. He
apparently doesn't understand that a single federal agency
regulates ALL of U.S. civil radio (i.e., non-government,
non-military). The Laws of Congress (Communications Act of
1934, Telecommunications Act of 1996) have NOT required
ANYONE in the FCC to hold amateur radio license grants.


And the ones who do should have "thier" licenses held in abeyence
during their term in government just so there is no conflict of
interest.

Jimmie and the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) think
they are a "law" unto themselves. Bless the ARRL for
continuing reinforcement of that conditioned thinking.


I'll have to look up that new guy who came on here several years ago
singing the praises of the Morse Code that he was -going- to learn. He
was the darling of the group, all PCTA fawning all over him. I looked
up his call about a year ago - still a no code. Wonder what "rank" he
hold today?

Want to GET INTO amateur radio? Follow the 'rule' of the
Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society and test for beeping.
No beep, no get into HF ham bands. Gosh, and they did NOT
tell the Army about that a half century ago!


Something for nothing.

The fraternal order doesn't want non-beepers dirtying up
their private sandbox. Their sand is elite. But their
sand is also sometimes used for kitty litter.

Beep, beep



bb


Bill Sohl November 4th 05 12:59 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
. ..
(SNIP)
Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio.


That is only your opinion. At one time morse was truly one of the
basics of amateur radio but that is simply untrue (IMHO) today.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



Dee Flint November 4th 05 01:40 AM

Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
. ..
(SNIP)
Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio.


That is only your opinion. At one time morse was truly one of the
basics of amateur radio but that is simply untrue (IMHO) today.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


I have no problem with that. In each case, we have both identified that as
being our personal opinions.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



[email protected] November 6th 05 02:05 AM

Free Ride, was Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 
From: on Fri 4 Nov 2005 17:16


Dee Flint wrote:

I would disagree with this approach. Here's why.


Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio.


Why is it that you only want volunteers to take up the burden of
learning morse code on "thier" free time and equip morse code radio
stations at their own expense?


...just because...

Why wouldn't you want paid, professional radio operators and radio
users to know Morse Code? Especially paid emergency communicators and
emergency responders.

If the government needed or wanted morse code radio operators, they
should create a GS5-7-9-11 series and get them.


Dee must imagine that ONLY hams are First Responders to
any emergency/crisis/disaster.

But the PCTA are more than willing to donate other people's free time
and money in order to provide the government with something it doesn't
want and doesn't want to pay for, just so you'll have someone to QSL
with on the low end of the bands.


PCTA think they are spay-shul (as the church lady said) and
NEED that code test to "prove" they are "better."

They are Mighty Macho Motivated Morsemen. Hear them roar...




[email protected] November 6th 05 04:46 PM

Free Ride, was Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote:
From: on Fri 4 Nov 2005 17:16


Dee Flint wrote:

I would disagree with this approach. Here's why.


Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio.


Why is it that you only want volunteers to take up the burden of
learning morse code on "thier" free time and equip morse code radio
stations at their own expense?


...just because...


There's got to be some deeper motive.

Why wouldn't you want paid, professional radio operators and radio
users to know Morse Code? Especially paid emergency communicators and
emergency responders.

If the government needed or wanted morse code radio operators, they
should create a GS5-7-9-11 series and get them.


Dee must imagine that ONLY hams are First Responders to
any emergency/crisis/disaster.


If so then Dee needs to back off and let first responders respond
first.

But the PCTA are more than willing to donate other people's free time
and money in order to provide the government with something it doesn't
want and doesn't want to pay for, just so you'll have someone to QSL
with on the low end of the bands.


PCTA think they are spay-shul (as the church lady said) and
NEED that code test to "prove" they are "better."


They are special. But when all become special, none are.

They are Mighty Macho Motivated Morsemen. Hear them roar...



They were born 100 years too late.


Dee Flint November 6th 05 05:22 PM

Free Ride, was Lennie's Scorecard Backfires
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
From: on Fri 4 Nov 2005 17:16


Dee Flint wrote:

I would disagree with this approach. Here's why.

Let me start by saying that I believe all amateurs should have a basic
ability in Morse code as it is one of the basics of amateur radio.

Why is it that you only want volunteers to take up the burden of
learning morse code on "thier" free time and equip morse code radio
stations at their own expense?


...just because...


There's got to be some deeper motive.


There is no deeper motive. Notice that Len Anderson has made no comment on
my approach to using CW when the license structure changes. He chooses to
comment on a section that is clearly identified as opinion. I'm entitled to
my opinion just like any one else.

Why wouldn't you want paid, professional radio operators and radio
users to know Morse Code? Especially paid emergency communicators and
emergency responders.

If the government needed or wanted morse code radio operators, they
should create a GS5-7-9-11 series and get them.


Dee must imagine that ONLY hams are First Responders to
any emergency/crisis/disaster.


If so then Dee needs to back off and let first responders respond
first.


Notice that Len Anderson injects something into my post that was not there,
was not implied, and has not been stated or implied in any of my posts. I
am firmly in favor of first reponders responding first and other groups
standing by until they are needed and then only going in if they are needed.
However as you can see, rather than addressing the concept that I was
discussing, Len Anderson has gone off on one of his tangents and trying to
distract people from my actual statements. This is why I killfiled him long
ago.

I see that you started the paragraph with "if so...." You are wise to doubt
his statements. Investigate for yourself.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




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