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[email protected] November 9th 05 01:18 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today. He will serve
a 2-year term beginning 1 January 2006. Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.





[email protected] November 9th 05 01:55 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:

Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today. He will serve
a 2-year term beginning 1 January 2006. Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.



not being a memeber of the IEEE(and not being licensed engineer I
don't think I am eleible) I am not esp familer with just what this
means

How many people hold the same level as carl nnow etc

congrats Carl, but a bit more context if you don't mind Len

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.




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[email protected] November 9th 05 06:40 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm

On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today. He will serve
a 2-year term beginning 1 January 2006. Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.


not being a memeber of the IEEE(and not being licensed engineer I
don't think I am eleible) I am not esp familer with just what this
means

How many people hold the same level as carl nnow etc


One other that I know about: L. Bruce McClung, elected in the
same category, same day as Carl.

IEEE Standards Association sets many of the standards in use in
electronics, followed voluntarily by designers, manufacturers,
governments. Carl has been active in the Standards Association
for years, particularly the "588" group (Wi-Max, Wi-Fi, etc).

One does NOT have to be a "licensed engineer" to belong to the
IEEE as a member. There are two ways to do it: Have a degree
in engineering; have at least three written affidavits by IEEE
members vouching for an applicants' ability as an engineer.

"Licensed engineers" are those who have passed STATE exams in
state legislated areas of engineering.

For further information on IEEE go to www.ieee.org.


congrats Carl, but a bit more context if you don't mind Len


I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)




[email protected] November 9th 05 07:00 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
On 9 Nov 2005 10:40:39 -0800, wrote:

From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm

On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today. He will serve
a 2-year term beginning 1 January 2006. Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.


not being a memeber of the IEEE(and not being licensed engineer I
don't think I am eleible) I am not esp familer with just what this
means

How many people hold the same level as carl nnow etc


One other that I know about: L. Bruce McClung, elected in the
same category, same day as Carl.

IEEE Standards Association sets many of the standards in use in
electronics, followed voluntarily by designers, manufacturers,
governments. Carl has been active in the Standards Association
for years, particularly the "588" group (Wi-Max, Wi-Fi, etc).

One does NOT have to be a "licensed engineer" to belong to the
IEEE as a member. There are two ways to do it: Have a degree
in engineering; have at least three written affidavits by IEEE
members vouching for an applicants' ability as an engineer.

"Licensed engineers" are those who have passed STATE exams in
state legislated areas of engineering.

For further information on IEEE go to
www.ieee.org.


congrats Carl, but a bit more context if you don't mind Len


I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


agreed very ironic also very ARRL if i may put it that way



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K4YZ November 9th 05 09:03 PM

IEEE Struggling For Membership
 

wrote:

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.


Geeeee.....what does it say that it takes the IEEE 150 countries
to amass 365,000 members when the ARRL manages to do half that number
in only 1 or 2....?!?!?!

Certainly there are more EE's than licensed Amateurs?

Are they not being paid enough to join the IEEE?

Obviously not.

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend November 9th 05 09:06 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.


cuting stvei wasting bandwidth and trying to turn Carl's moment into an
anti Len attack thread


K4YZ November 9th 05 09:28 PM

IEEE Struggling for Membership
 

an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.


cuting stvei wasting bandwidth and trying to turn Carl's moment into an
anti Len attack thread


The "wasting bandwidth" part came from you responding to a thread
in which you had nothing to say...As usual.

Steve. K4YZ


an old friend November 9th 05 09:31 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 

K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.

cuting stvei wasting bandwidth and trying to turn Carl's moment into
an
anti Len attack thread

Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today. He will serve
a 2-year term beginning 1 January 2006. Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.


IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.





K4YZ November 9th 05 09:31 PM

And BTW, Markie......
 
raped an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.


cuting stvei wasting bandwidth and trying to turn Carl's moment into an
anti Len attack thread


The REAL "attack" came FROM Lennie...Yet another anti-ARRL /
anti-Amateur Radio sleight. It had very little to do with Carl.

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend November 9th 05 09:35 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today. He will serve
a 2-year term beginning 1 January 2006. Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.


IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.




conitueing to cut and ignore Stvie eforts to trun a wellearned ata boy
in a anti len attarck thread


Iitoi November 9th 05 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by
How many people hold the same level as carl nnow etc

There are a total of 15 members of IEEE Standards Association Board.

SA President, Immediate Past President, Standards Board Chair, Standards Board Immediate Past Chair, Treasurer, Secretary, Nine (9) Members-At-Large. Mr. Stevenson and Mr. McClung will join the "Members-At-Large" for a two year term beginning next year.

The Man in the Maze
QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ

[email protected] November 10th 05 12:04 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
wrote:
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:
Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.

Carl is also Executive
Director of No Code International.


Nobody's perfect! ;-)

I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


Not ironic at all.

The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.

Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.

Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.

btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


[email protected] November 10th 05 01:33 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm


wrote:
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


What do you mean "we?" You wouldn't have known about an IEEE
election without a notice from an IEEE member. YOU are NOT
an IEEE member.

WE don't know where or what YOUR "professional" electronics
activity is/involves. You could be taking lessons from
Dudly the Imposter.


I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


Not ironic at all.


WRONG. INCORRECT.

The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.


Dead a long time ago. Do you talk to the dead?!?

Other than the BoD that is...


Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.


We've all seen your parroting of ARRL-is-god spin in here
before on that matter.

Put a cork in it and go to your seance. Ask Jim Fixx.


Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.


One cannot argue with the dead.

One cannot argue with morsemen.

Hard to tell the difference there...


btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Why? Because he has one and you do not?

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.
ARRL doesn't want no-coders. ARRL wants only those "acceptible"
to the BoD hierarchy.

-------

Jim-Jim, be aware that Microsoft is ready to ship a new Windows
just for you morsemen. It's supposed to be like Windows XP PRO
but it is called Windows XP Amateur. One doesn't need any
keyboard or display. Just use a morse key for input and listen
to the speakers for results. Ideal for you morsemen to show
your magnificence in communications.




[email protected] November 10th 05 01:49 AM

IEEE Struggling For Membership
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers and is
the world's largest professional technical organization with
365,000 members in 150 countries.


Geeeee.....what does it say that it takes the IEEE 150 countries
to amass 365,000 members when the ARRL manages to do half that number
in only 1 or 2....?!?!?!


Put a Morse Code requirement on IEEE membership and that organizations
would fold.

Certainly there are more EE's than licensed Amateurs?

Are they not being paid enough to join the IEEE?

Obviously not.

Steve, K4YZ


A glut of engineers from India and China...


[email protected] November 10th 05 01:55 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

wrote:
From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm


wrote:
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


What do you mean "we?" You wouldn't have known about an IEEE
election without a notice from an IEEE member. YOU are NOT
an IEEE member.


Mouse. Pocket.

WE don't know where or what YOUR "professional" electronics
activity is/involves. You could be taking lessons from
Dudly the Imposter.


Speaks as an authority on space science, Has trouble with distance to
the moon.

I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


Not ironic at all.


WRONG. INCORRECT.

The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.


Dead a long time ago. Do you talk to the dead?!?

Other than the BoD that is...


Why would an atheist think he could talk to the dead? Reminds me of
Steve's recent attempt to talk to W0EX.

Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.


We've all seen your parroting of ARRL-is-god spin in here
before on that matter.

Put a cork in it and go to your seance. Ask Jim Fixx.


He'll blow right by Jim Fixx and got straight to Hiram. Jim got clout.

Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.


One cannot argue with the dead.

One cannot argue with morsemen.

Hard to tell the difference there...

btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Why? Because he has one and you do not?

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.
ARRL doesn't want no-coders. ARRL wants only those "acceptible"
to the BoD hierarchy.

-------

Jim-Jim, be aware that Microsoft is ready to ship a new Windows
just for you morsemen. It's supposed to be like Windows XP PRO
but it is called Windows XP Amateur. One doesn't need any
keyboard or display. Just use a morse key for input and listen
to the speakers for results. Ideal for you morsemen to show
your magnificence in communications.



Hi!!!


an old friend November 10th 05 01:57 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

wrote:
From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm


wrote:
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


What do you mean "we?" You wouldn't have known about an IEEE
election without a notice from an IEEE member. YOU are NOT
an IEEE member.

WE don't know where or what YOUR "professional" electronics
activity is/involves. You could be taking lessons from
Dudly the Imposter.


I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


Not ironic at all.


WRONG. INCORRECT.


Jim would not know irany if it.. Nah beter not say might be accused of
threatening him

The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.


Dead a long time ago. Do you talk to the dead?!?

Other than the BoD that is...


sorry Len you blew it the ARRL BoD is alive. The dead the do have
better manner and more honesty

Dave says I must my fellows No Coders when they make mistake and I'll
take his advice (be sure and thank him for me)

I can not allow to defile the dead as general class ( as opposed to
general license holders) by trying to class the ARRL BoD amoug them. I
will have to write a strong worded to the LA Times or something if you
don't stop distrubing the peace the dead have earned by trying include
the ARRL BoD amoug them before they have to accept those "persons" for
want of a better word



Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.


We've all seen your parroting of ARRL-is-god spin in here
before on that matter.

Put a cork in it and go to your seance. Ask Jim Fixx.


Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.


One cannot argue with the dead.


in point of fact you can argue with the dead at least they better obey
stardards of truthfullness honesty and integety better than some we
could mention


One cannot argue with morsemen.


you got that right right on the money

Protect Us Oh Lord from the warth of the Morsemen

Hard to tell the difference there...


wrong again the dead speak bettera fter awhile they even smell better
than some of the Morsemen



btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Why? Because he has one and you do not?

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.
ARRL doesn't want no-coders. ARRL wants only those "acceptible"
to the BoD hierarchy.

-------

Jim-Jim, be aware that Microsoft is ready to ship a new Windows
just for you morsemen. It's supposed to be like Windows XP PRO
but it is called Windows XP Amateur. One doesn't need any
keyboard or display. Just use a morse key for input and listen
to the speakers for results. Ideal for you morsemen to show
your magnificence in communications.




[email protected] November 10th 05 01:58 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
wrote:
From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm
wrote:
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


What do you mean "we?"


Those of us who know about his election.

You wouldn't have known about an IEEE
election without a notice from an IEEE member.


And yet I know about it. Fancy that!

YOU are NOT an IEEE member.


So? Membership is not required to offer congratulations.

WE don't know where or what YOUR "professional" electronics
activity is/involves.


Are you the Pope, Len?

I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


Not ironic at all.


WRONG. INCORRECT.


Says who?

The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.


Dead a long time ago. Do you talk to the dead?!?

Other than the BoD that is...


Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.


We've all seen your parroting of ARRL-is-god spin in here
before on that matter.


ARRL isn't 'god', Len. Neither are you.

Put a cork in it and go to your seance. Ask Jim Fixx.


Ah, another one of your "shut up" phrases.

Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.


One cannot argue with the dead.


One cannot argue with morsemen.

Hard to tell the difference there...


I'm quite alive, Len.

You might be surprised to know who some of those who
supported WK3C's candidacy for ARRL director are, Len.

btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Why? Because he has one and you do not?


No.

Do you know the name of his firm?

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.


No, I don't know that at all. You don't either, you just take any
excuse to
bash ARRL.

ARRL doesn't want no-coders.


Really? Many of the directors support the elimination of the code test.
So does much of the membership. The ARRL proposal to keep the test
for Extra only is a compromise meant to give the diverse ARRL
membership
some of what they want.

Compromise - do you know what that is, Len?

ARRL wants only those "acceptible" to the BoD hierarchy.


"Acceptible"?


Cmdr Buzz Corey November 10th 05 04:23 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
an old friend wrote:



Jim would not know irany if it..


Irany - someone who lives in Iran.

an old friend November 10th 05 04:50 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:



Jim would not know irany if it..


Irany - someone who lives in Iran.


at least I am a person not a cancelled cartoon style character rediced
to playing a an unpaid spelling cop


[email protected] November 10th 05 07:03 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
Thank you for the files sent in private e-mail. I could not
return a private thank-you note since the mailer daemons
didn't like the web address you gave me.

I get IEEE news notices as a Life Member (no dues, by the way, no
extra fees to reach Life status). Not a member of any Standards
group, my recent IEEE election ballot did not allow me to vote on
Carl even though he was in the pre-election booklet sent out to all
(included his picture).




Dave Heil November 10th 05 01:25 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
an old friend wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:


Jim would not know irany if it..

Irany - someone who lives in Iran.


at least I am a person not a cancelled cartoon style character rediced
to playing a an unpaid spelling cop


You're right, Mark. You're more like a current cartoon-style character
"rediced" to playing a buffoon on r.r.a.p.

You believe that Space Patrol was a cartoon show?

Dave K8MN


K4YZ November 10th 05 01:34 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

an old friend wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Jim would not know irany if it..


Irany - someone who lives in Iran.


at least I am a person not a cancelled cartoon style character rediced
to playing a an unpaid spelling cop


At least an unpaid spelling cop can spell "reduced"....

Sheeesh.

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend November 10th 05 05:05 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Jim would not know irany if it..

Irany - someone who lives in Iran.


at least I am a person not a cancelled cartoon style character rediced
to playing a an unpaid spelling cop


At least an unpaid spelling cop can spell "reduced"....

Sheeesh.


another speling cop heard from

Steve, K4YZ



Dave Heil November 10th 05 06:41 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
wrote:

I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


I don't find it ironic. Carl was apparently found qualified for one and
unqualified for the other. The PROFESSIONAL organization and the
AMATEUR organization aren't the same. He could GET ON the ballot for
one and couldn't GET ON the ballot for the other.

What's the name of Carl's company?

Dave K8MN


Dave Heil November 10th 05 06:49 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
wrote:
From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm


btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Why? Because he has one and you do not?


Do you know the name of the company, Len?

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.
ARRL doesn't want no-coders.


Do you know damn well that what you've written is a fact, Leonard?

ARRL wants only those "acceptible"
to the BoD hierarchy.


I don't think that's correct, Len. The ARRL has had regulations
governing League elections in place for years. None were changed in the
case of Carl Stevenson.

Dave K8MN




Dave Heil November 10th 05 06:53 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
an old friend wrote:

Dave says I must my fellows No Coders when they make mistake and I'll
take his advice (be sure and thank him for me)


I said that you must your fellows No Coders? I must have been drunk or
insane when I wrote that.

Protect Us Oh Lord from the warth of the Morsemen


Oh Lords? What's your net warth, Mark?

Dave K8MN

Iitoi November 10th 05 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by

I could not return a private thank-you note since the mailer daemons didn't like the web address you gave me.

Perfect spam-proofing ---

If you know my-last-name you're golden; if you're a stranger the daemons will protect me.

The Man in the Maze
QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ

[email protected] November 10th 05 09:52 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected
 
Iitoi -

Thank you for the files sent in private e-mail. I could not
return a private thank-you note since the mailer daemons
didn't like the web address you gave me.

I get IEEE news notices as a Life Member (no dues, by the way, no
extra fees to reach Life status). Not a member of any Standards
group, my recent IEEE election ballot did not allow me to vote on
Carl even though he was in the pre-election booklet sent out to all
(included his picture).




[email protected] November 10th 05 09:54 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
From: on Nov 9, 5:55 pm

wrote:
From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm
wrote:
From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:



Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


What do you mean "we?" You wouldn't have known about an IEEE
election without a notice from an IEEE member. YOU are NOT
an IEEE member.


Mouse. Pocket.


Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.
Gives the impression, the implication that he did without
committing his name to some "fact."


WE don't know where or what YOUR "professional" electronics
activity is/involves. You could be taking lessons from
Dudly the Imposter.


Speaks as an authority on space science, Has trouble with distance to
the moon.


Jimmie has lots of troubles. Like telling EXACTLY what he does
for a living as a "professional."


I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)


Not ironic at all.


WRONG. INCORRECT.


The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.


Dead a long time ago. Do you talk to the dead?!?


Other than the BoD that is...


Why would an atheist think he could talk to the dead? Reminds me of
Steve's recent attempt to talk to W0EX.


Dudly the Imposter can do ANYTHING. He just hasn't gotten around
to claiming everything yet... :-)


Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.


We've all seen your parroting of ARRL-is-god spin in here
before on that matter.


Put a cork in it and go to your seance. Ask Jim Fixx.


He'll blow right by Jim Fixx and got straight to Hiram. Jim got clout.


Heh hehe. Last time I mentioned "Jim Fixx," Jimmie did NOT
seem to know who that person was.

Fixx was an author of at least one best-selling book on RUNNING.

Claimed it "prevented heart problems." Fixx died while running,
of a heart attack. Ironic.


Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.


One cannot argue with the dead.


One cannot argue with morsemen.


Hard to tell the difference there...


If the hierarchy of ARRL doesn't want someone anywhere close
to their entrenched POWER, that's it.

In 2003 Dave Sumner pulled down an annual salary of $137,558
plus $9,239 in Benefits plus $7,829 in "expenses." [source:
ARRL federal income tax returns for 2003 filed in 2004] Not
bad for being an executive vice president and "secretary."
That's higher than most managers in the electronics industry.
It's understandable that such would be very protective of
their income.

In 2003 ARRL had 23 paid positions making over $50,000 a year.
Only 10 of those were listed on the IRS returns for 2003.
Not bad for a supposedly altruistic membership organization
of only 145 thousand members supposedly "representing" all
700+ thousand United States radio amateurs. Like they make
"no profit" from their many books and other publications...

If ARRL loses membership, loses sales, well, there goes the
income. "It's all about the money with them" might fit as
Jimmie likes to put it...

btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Why? Because he has one and you do not?


Jimmie probably thinks amateur radio terms are somehow
"copyrighted" and MUST NOT EVER be used in business.

Sort of like "QST," "CQ," "73," and "W5YI Group."

Jimmie now preparing to argue that I am "mistaken."
ARRL "invented" the Q-code QST...73 went out of business,
W5YI Group "doesn't like morse code" (they teach it
anyway). Don't know what Jimmie will call "CQ" since
they are a magazine competitor to QST...but he will no
doubt say they are "lower class" or something like that...

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.
ARRL doesn't want no-coders. ARRL wants only those "acceptible"
to the BoD hierarchy.


ARRL has a VIRTUAL monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications. Has had that for years. Beautiful vehicle
for conditioning the thinking of United States radio amateurs.
George Orwell coined the term "big brother." That fits the
ARRL too.




[email protected] November 10th 05 10:42 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

wrote:

Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.


Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.

Gives the impression, the implication that he did without
committing his name to some "fact."


Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Is that clear enough for ya?

ARRL has a VIRTUAL monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications. Has had that for years.


"CQ" magazine. "73" magazine. "ham radio" magazine. Bash books.
Gordon West publications. "Worldradio" publications. Ameco
publications.
W5YI.

Etc.


[email protected] November 11th 05 12:39 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm

wrote:


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.


Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.


WRONG. It is excellent.

Jimmie, YOUR MISTAKE was using vague adjectives as descriptors.

"Many of us" does NOT specifically include YOU.

You know that very well. Or did, once the Nuns spanked your
knuckles.

Try as you might, you aren't going to win message points by
manufacturing falsehoods or even brags about your writing
ability, the ones where you CLAIM to have said something
when you OBVIOUSLY did NOT do so.


Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.


Prove that. Prove the number of "many others."

Did you get a "group hug" together or what? :-)


Is that clear enough for ya?


Not really. All you've done is just more MISDIRECTION, trying
to avoid having obvious errors pointed out to you by saying
someone else "did wrong."

Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew." The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.

You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.

I will not expect any cogent answer from you. I will expect
some more fogware bull**** saying that *I* did something
"wrong" ("wrong" according to YOUR standards).




[email protected] November 11th 05 12:54 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
wrote:
From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm
wrote:


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.
Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.


Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.


WRONG. It is excellent.


Dream on, Len. You messed up.

Jimmie, YOUR MISTAKE was using vague adjectives as descriptors.


"Many of us" does NOT specifically include YOU.


Yes it does.

You know that very well. Or did, once the Nuns spanked your
knuckles.


Try as you might, you aren't going to win message points by
manufacturing falsehoods or even brags about your writing
ability, the ones where you CLAIM to have said something
when you OBVIOUSLY did NOT do so.


Gosh you're all upset and overwrought, Len.

Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.


Prove that. Prove the number of "many others."


Why? You won't accept it anyway.

Did you get a "group hug" together or what? :-)


Is that clear enough for ya?


Not really. All you've done is just more MISDIRECTION, trying
to avoid having obvious errors pointed out to you by saying
someone else "did wrong."


Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)


I found out.

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew."


Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.


I knew on November 7.

You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.


Well bully for you, Len.

You are NOT a radio amateur. I am an Amateur Extra class radio
amateur, and have been since 1970.

Game, set, match.

I will not expect any cogent answer from you.


You don't give "cogent answers", Len.

By the way, when WK3C was trying to get on the ballot for ARRL Director
from the Atlantic Division, there were a number of people who tried to
get the ARRL BoD and Executive Committee to allow him to run.

Guess who some of those people were.


[email protected] November 11th 05 03:36 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
From: on Nov 10, 4:54 pm


wrote:
From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm
wrote:


Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.


Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.


WRONG. It is excellent.


Dream on, Len. You messed up.


Oh, oh...it was bound to happen...J.P. Miccolis is becoming
a clone of Dudly the Imposter!

Tsk, everyone ELSE "makes mistakes," Jimmie doesn't.


Jimmie, YOUR MISTAKE was using vague adjectives as descriptors.
"Many of us" does NOT specifically include YOU.


Yes it does.


Tsk..."many of us" doesn't say anything specific at all.

What does/do "us" refer to?

How many is "many?" :-)


I and many others sent him our congratulations.


Prove that. Prove the number of "many others."


Why? You won't accept it anyway.


Jimmie: "Waaaa...waaaa...big bad Len don't accept it!"

:-)


Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)


I found out.


Tsk...how did you "find out?"

Someone sent you a morse code message on 40 meters? :-)

You had your crystal ball plugged in and saw the news? :-)


Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew."


Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...Jimmie say NON-specifics with NO answers,
and is uncivil on top of that. :-)

Let me repeat, HOW did you FIND OUT?


The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.


I knew on November 7.


HOW did you FIND OUT?


You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.


Well bully for you, Len.


[a decided lack of sincerity there...:-) ]

You are NOT a radio amateur. I am an Amateur Extra class radio
amateur, and have been since 1970.


I am a radio professional. I was granted a First Class
Radiotelephone (Commercial) radio operator license in 1956
and kept it renewed.

I've been a professional in radio since 1953, beginning with
HF communictions.

I've been a hobbyist in electronics as well, beginning in
1947. Still am.

BTW, "electronics" INCLUDES radio. Radio is a subset within
all of electronics.

Have you been an editor of an amateur radio specialty
publication? I was an Associate Editor at Ham Radio magazine.
[look on the mastheads]

Jimmie say I have "smallest johnson ever made." Not nice.

My johnson all natural ingredients, not manufactured.


Game, set, match.


Tsk, tsk, why are you quoting a Len Deighton novel trilogy?

Is/was author Len Deighton a UK or Irish radio amateur?



I will not expect any cogent answer from you.


You don't give "cogent answers", Len.


Tsk, you don't give good question, Jimmie.

You don't give good answer.

Jimmie just not good.

Jimmie want answers that please him. Too bad you not get them.

Tsk.




Dave Heil November 11th 05 05:18 AM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
wrote:

Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew." The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.

You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.


There must be a leak at the IEEE. I knew about it too.

Dave K8MN

[email protected] November 11th 05 10:12 AM

IEEE Not A Secret
 
wrote:
From: on Nov 10, 4:54 pm
wrote:
From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm
wrote:


I and many others sent him our congratulations.


Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)


I found out.


Tsk...how did you "find out?"


It's not a secret, Len.

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew."


Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...Jimmie say NON-specifics with NO answers,
and is uncivil on top of that. :-)


You used the phrase "fogware bull****" first, Len.

Let me repeat, HOW did you FIND OUT?


Good news travels fast. While I may not agree with WK3C on a few
things, it was good news to hear of his election to that IEEE post.
So I offered him my congratulations. I was pleased that he won
but not surprised.

Too bad the ARRL BoD and Executive Committee could not be
made to change their minds about allowing him to run for Director
of the Atlantic Division, despite the efforts of some of us in the
Division to get him on the ballot.

The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.


I knew on November 7.


HOW did you FIND OUT?


Why does that matter so much to you, Len?

Jimmie say I have "smallest johnson ever made."


Nobody said that but you, Len.

I wrote some time back that you had held onto "one of the
smallest Johnsons ever produced".

And you have.

Not nice.


What's not nice about telling the truth? The Johnson Viking Messenger
is smaller than almost all other Johnsons.

I will not expect any cogent answer from you.


You don't give "cogent answers", Len.


Tsk, you don't give good question, Jimmie.


You mean like:

"Tsk...how did you "find out?""

"Let me repeat, HOW did you FIND OUT?"

"HOW did you FIND OUT?"

Is your behavior here "professional", Len?


Carl R. Stevenson November 11th 05 02:48 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 


wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:


From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm


On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards


Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Just to clarify, it's actually a seat on the IEEE-SA Board of Governors - a
role that Dennis Bodson, ARRL Roanoake Division Director held for some time
in parallel with his ARRL position.

[snip]



I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur


Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE


AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only


GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and


WIN! :-)




Not ironic at all.




The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.




Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.


But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there


was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being


an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision


was not reversed by the BoD.




Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not


agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the


BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those


efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.




btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Jim is referring to the fact that my company is named "WK3C Wireless LLC"
.... The simple fact of the matter is that, since "WK3C" is unique to me, it
was a simple way of assuring that there were no name conflicts when I filed
the papers to form the company with the PA authorities.

73,

Carl - wk3c



[email protected] November 11th 05 03:21 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

wrote:
wrote:

Many of us have sent him our congratulations.


Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.


Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.

Gives the impression, the implication that he did without
committing his name to some "fact."


Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Is that clear enough for ya?

ARRL has a VIRTUAL monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications. Has had that for years.


"CQ" magazine. "73" magazine. "ham radio" magazine. Bash books.
Gordon West publications. "Worldradio" publications. Ameco
publications.
W5YI.

Etc.


"Ham Radio" magazine has been pronounced "defunct" by you. Now you
claim differently? And Bash, what is the copyright on the latest Bash
book?

I do like World Radio and think "thier" SAR columns are excellent. I
need to subscribe to them now that the ARRL has lost my membership or
19 years. They should have let Carl run and take his chances with the
rest of the contenders. Last Straw. Too bad for the ARRL.


Iitoi November 11th 05 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl R. Stevenson
Just to clarify, it's actually a seat on the IEEE-SA Board of Governors - a role that Dennis Bodson, ARRL Roanoake Division Director held for some time in parallel with his ARRL position.

Congratulations, Carl, and thanks for the press releases you sent.

For those who don't get all your news from rrap or IEEE bulletins, open your copy of this months copy of Scientific American magazine. In it they recognize Carl by naming him one of the "SA50" for his work in WiFi radio.

The Man in the Maze
QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ

[email protected] November 11th 05 07:57 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 
From: on Nov 11, 7:21 am

wrote:
wrote:



ARRL has a VIRTUAL monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications. Has had that for years.


"CQ" magazine. "73" magazine. "ham radio" magazine. Bash books.
Gordon West publications. "Worldradio" publications. Ameco
publications.
W5YI.



"Ham Radio" magazine has been pronounced "defunct" by you. Now you
claim differently? And Bash, what is the copyright on the latest Bash
book?


Tsk, tsk. Note that Jimmie refused to capitalize the Ham
Radio magazine name. Ham Radio magazine ceased publication
in 1990. That was 15 years before now. Ham Radio had been
in continuous INDEPENDENT monthly publication for 22 years.

Irony is that the Ham Radio Bookstore got sold to CQ along
with HR and is still in business. HR continued with a
quarterly that became Communications Quarterly under the
CQ aegis, then merged with ARRL's QEX. CQ Communications
made a 3-disk CD on all 22 years worth of HR articles and
sells it over their Book Store for $150. ARRL resells the
same item. :-)

One has only to drop into any HRO and check out their
books-magazines rack/display. ARRL publications far
out-pace ALL others. Just a glance at the ARRL web page
will show books of all sorts on amateur radio for sale,
including fiction novels. The nearest competitor is CQ
Communications products through its Book Store via mail
order.

I do like World Radio and think "thier" SAR columns are excellent. I
need to subscribe to them now that the ARRL has lost my membership or
19 years. They should have let Carl run and take his chances with the
rest of the contenders. Last Straw. Too bad for the ARRL.


ARRL can do no wrong. Ever.

May Jimmie dwell in the house of the Board forever.




an_old_friend November 11th 05 08:47 PM

Carl Stevenson Elected To IEEE Post
 

Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:


From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm


On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards


Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.


Just to clarify, it's actually a seat on the IEEE-SA Board of Governors - a
role that Dennis Bodson, ARRL Roanoake Division Director held for some time
in parallel with his ARRL position.

[snip]


congrats again

Oh BTW I was talking someone at the Us Attorneys office yesterday ran
into someone (my Memeber in NCI was german to the discussion) she had
heard someone going about how someone named Carl Stevenson of NCI was
the "anitichirst" turns she knows a ham, a procoder one assumes
cut
btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.


Jim is referring to the fact that my company is named "WK3C Wireless LLC"
... The simple fact of the matter is that, since "WK3C" is unique to me, it
was a simple way of assuring that there were no name conflicts when I filed
the papers to form the company with the PA authorities.


and legaly WK3C means nothing I suspect to the PA authorities (perhaps
something over which you currently hold copyright but nothing more)

73,

Carl - wk3c




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