Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!


Happy Solstice, and let's keep the religious crap out of Crapmas!

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Pierian Spring you talk to much.

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!


Happy Solstice, and let's keep the religious crap out of Crapmas!

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

You seem to be intellectually challenged on the point that
you make below (CBer, are you?) - the essence of a
discussion group is,......wait for it......discussion!

Discussion implies talking.

ITYM, "too" and not, "to". (CBer, are you?)

Allan McDonald wrote:
Pierian Spring you talk to much.

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!


Happy Solstice, and let's keep the religious crap out of Crapmas!

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)


The Pierian Spring, from Greek mythology, was a source of inspiration.

I see nothing inspiring in the bigoted drivel you just posted.

73
Mike
G4KFK

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)


The Pierian Spring, from Greek mythology, was a source of inspiration.

I see nothing inspiring in the bigoted drivel you just posted.

73
Mike
G4KFK

Have you ever been inspired by a M3 ? ......inspired to leave the hobby
perhaps.....

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...

Happy Solstice, and let's keep the religious crap out of Crapmas!

You should check into the Liberty Net at 10:00 PM
saturday night (3.955 (+/- 10 kc) A real collection
of crakns, grumpy old men, kooks and weirdoes.
You would fit right in like lime jell-o into a piehole....

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Rooooooodney wrote:
"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...

Happy Solstice, and let's keep the religious crap out of Crapmas!

You should check into the Liberty Net at 10:00 PM
saturday night (3.955 (+/- 10 kc) A real collection
of crakns, grumpy old men, kooks and weirdoes.
You would fit right in like lime jell-o into a piehole....

Pierian Spring, aka Gareth Evans G4SDW, was once a member of a church
bellringing group. One wonders what happened in the belltower that turned
him so....
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - theXmas FAQ
 

You need to drink deeper. Shallow draughts have intoxicated your mind
and you have not yet tasted the Pierian Spring. (apologies to A. Pope)

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

If you publish Childish Broadcasts (CB) such as you
do below, then you will be perceived as a CBer.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for which it is
important to maintain standards. There is no
bigotry in seeking to maintain educational
standards.

We do ourselves no favours if we associate
with the non-technical turnip-brains.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)


The Pierian Spring, from Greek mythology, was a source of inspiration.

I see nothing inspiring in the bigoted drivel you just posted.

73
Mike
G4KFK

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

If you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then continue to publish Childish Broadcasts (CB) as you
do below.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit with gentlemanly
traditions, traditions which seem to be lost on you.

Rooooooodney wrote:
You should check into the Liberty Net at 10:00 PM
saturday night (3.955 (+/- 10 kc) A real collection
of crakns, grumpy old men, kooks and weirdoes.
You would fit right in like lime jell-o into a piehole....

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Your knowledge of the Pierian Spring is shallow if your only
association is through Pope's reference.

If, however, it is merely the case that you wish to be
perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer) then
continue as you do below.

LT wrote:
You need to drink deeper. Shallow draughts have intoxicated your mind
and you have not yet tasted the Pierian Spring. (apologies to A. Pope)

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)

What is Ham Radio?

_On Aug 9 1996, at 7:00 am_

Gareth Alun Evans - G4ASW
Published this message to the Public Domain

G.A.Evans, Director, Out And About Systems Ltd
Software Consultancy for Telecommunications, Real Time and ATE
13 Hardens Close, Chippenham, Wiltshire, SN15 3AA
(01249) 651897

Yes morse is obsolete, but also useful.
The former is no basis for banning it.
The latter is no basis for using it as a passport to the HF Bands.

Why do we need a further exam for incentive licensing? Do we not have
enough already?....
(1) CB licence as an appetite whetter
(2) Novice licence
(3) RAE.

(Perversely, the Novice RAE is a higher technical challenge than the
RAE!)

Restore the RAE to its technical status, and we have a sufficient and
complete incentive licensing scheme, without anything to do with the
Morse (Sorry, Vail) Code.

Arguments relating to international requirements are redundant - laws
change.

Amateur Radio is dying, and this is due IMHO in no small part to the
consumerism CBish activities of today, QSLing as an end in itself, WAB,
contest operating other than as a means of evaluating one's technical
equipment, squeakies on repeaters, walts on URA, and inane discussions
about the turnips growing in one's garden.

72's de Gareth G4SDW GQRP 3339

________________

Regards

Micky

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

Gareth Alun Evans - G4ASW

Published this message to the Public Domain


G4ASW
M YORKE
8 ST JOHN PLACE
PORT WASHINGTON
NEW YORK 11050
USA
==================
I think , Gareth Evans' callsign is : G4DSW

Just ignore his outpouring

Frank KN6WH / GM0CSZ

Pepper And Salt - Re Eric Williams M3EJO
 

"Micky Taker" is, in reality,

Eric Williams, M3EJO,
19, Raglans,
Exeter,
EX2 8XN.

He is one of those disgraceful adults warned against by the OP; a
grown man with seeming years of experience who was either too
lazy or too stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass exams
that were being taken in their stride by otherwise-unqualified
14-year-olds and went instead for the yellow-bellied coward's
way out by going for exams set for 6-year-olds.

Eric did not seem to understand that the OP was a public stance
for the maintenance of academic standards and that by responding
with his Childish Broadcast (CB) in the way that he did he illustrated
graphically the sort of turnip-brained dross that the OP warned
against.

M3EJO is one of the licences issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence and by taking out
such a licence, Eric proves himself to be an incurable CBer who
will _NEVER_ make it into the ranks of _REAL_ Radio Hams.

Eric seems to have missed the point that the OP was arguing
in favour of the very acadaemic standards that Eric himself so
dismally failed to reach - the issue is not one of the relevance, or
otherwise, of the Morse Code, but the showing of sufficient dedication
of putting in the necessary effort to get what you want. Going
for an M3/CB Fools' Licence and then posting personal attacks in
the way that Eric did is a sure sign of lack of such dedication.

Eric - you are a stupid boy and should grow up. It may well
be that you wear long trousers but it is certain that your
mind is still in nappies.

Micky Taker wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)

Pepper And Salt - Re "MICKY TAKER" - Eric Williams M3EJO
 

Title's typo corrected.

Pierian Spring wrote:
"Micky Taker" is, in reality,

Eric Williams, M3EJO,
19, Raglans,
Exeter,
EX2 8XN.

He is one of those disgraceful adults warned against by the OP; a
grown man with seeming years of experience who was either too
lazy or too stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass exams
that were being taken in their stride by otherwise-unqualified
14-year-olds and went instead for the yellow-bellied coward's
way out by going for exams set for 6-year-olds.

Eric did not seem to understand that the OP was a public stance
for the maintenance of academic standards and that by responding
with his Childish Broadcast (CB) in the way that he did he illustrated
graphically the sort of turnip-brained dross that the OP warned
against.

M3EJO is one of the licences issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence and by taking out
such a licence, Eric proves himself to be an incurable CBer who
will _NEVER_ make it into the ranks of _REAL_ Radio Hams.

Eric seems to have missed the point that the OP was arguing
in favour of the very acadaemic standards that Eric himself so
dismally failed to reach - the issue is not one of the relevance, or
otherwise, of the Morse Code, but the showing of sufficient dedication
of putting in the necessary effort to get what you want. Going
for an M3/CB Fools' Licence and then posting personal attacks in
the way that Eric did is a sure sign of lack of such dedication.

Eric - you are a stupid boy and should grow up. It may well
be that you wear long trousers but it is certain that your
mind is still in nappies.

Micky Taker wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)

Pepper And Salt - Re Frank Dinger GM0CSZ
 

The Childish Broadcast (CB) quoted below would suggest that
the 2 letters, number, 2 letters format used by Britland CB
licences is also in use by Yankland in the KN6 series.....

Frank Dinger's Childish Broadcast (CB) serves to illustrate
well the Trojan Horse of the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham
warned against by the OP.

Just ignore his outpouring - he is as irrelevant to _REAL_ Ham Radio
as is the RSCB.

Highland Ham wrote:

Just ignore his outpouring

Frank KN6WH / GM0CSZ

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:21:14 -0800, Highland Ham
wrote:

Gareth Alun Evans - G4ASW

Published this message to the Public Domain


G4ASW
M YORKE
8 ST JOHN PLACE
PORT WASHINGTON
NEW YORK 11050
USA
==================
I think , Gareth Evans' callsign is : G4DSW

I don't think so!

:-)))

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com




.....and just the heck is this worth?????

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

Walt Davidson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:32:30 GMT, Micky Taker
wrote:


Published this message to the Public Domain

G4ASW

My humble apologies to G4ASW. Don't know where that came from, but I'm
going to play the dyslexia card here. Either that or I was pi**ed.

Regards,

Micky

Pepper And Salt - Re Eric Williams M3EJO
 

Pierian Spring wrote:

Going for an M3/CB Fools' Licence and then posting personal attacks in
the way that Eric did is a sure sign of lack of such dedication.

Please quote said personal attack.

Eric - you are a stupid boy and should grow up. It may well
be that you wear long trousers but it is certain that your
mind is still in nappies.

One up to you then, looks like!

Regards

Eric
2E0ECW

"Perversely, the Novice RAE is a higher technical challenge than the
RAE!" - (C) Gareth Alun Evans 1996

Pepper And Salt - Re Eric Williams M3EJO
 

But the Novice RAE is no more, and the comment applied to the RAE
as it existed at the time of the Novice RAE.

The comments are not revalidated for the 3-level farce fiasco that
exists today.

Eric 2E0ECW wrote:
"Perversely, the Novice RAE is a higher technical challenge than the
RAE!" - (C) Gareth Alun Evans 1996

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

Micky Taker wrote:

Gareth ____ _____ - G4ASW

i'm sure g4asw will have something to say !

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

Micky Taker wrote:

My humble apologies to G4ASW. Don't know where that came from, but I'm
going to play the dyslexia card here. Either that or I was pi**ed.


doh!

mickey taker takes a nose dive.
which is hard to do when flying so low in the first place !

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

zYYPK, AKA - PAUL KEARNEY EI7GM, wrote:
Micky Taker wrote:


Gareth ____ _____ - G4ASW


i'm sure g4asw will have something to say !


Yes, I posted that through beer-tinted spectacles and realised the
mistake in the cold light of day.

Cheers,

Micky

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

"Micky Taker" wrote in message
. uk...


Yes, I posted that through beer-tinted spectacles and realised the mistake
in the cold light of day.

No worse than DSP, heat bands, polarised resistors, fettling, slope
detection, big k and
of course, lol...unclear emissions!

tox

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Here we go again.......... Blah blah blah blah blah.

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you publish Childish Broadcasts (CB) such as you
do below, then you will be perceived as a CBer.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for which it is
important to maintain standards. There is no
bigotry in seeking to maintain educational
standards.

We do ourselves no favours if we associate
with the non-technical turnip-brains.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being
misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact,
they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill,
let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools
from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to
mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people
and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and
like M3/CBers)


The Pierian Spring, from Greek mythology, was a source of inspiration.

I see nothing inspiring in the bigoted drivel you just posted.

73
Mike
G4KFK

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Do you cut and paste your messages. Is that how lazy you are.

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
ups.com...
If you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then continue to publish Childish Broadcasts (CB) as you
do below.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit with gentlemanly
traditions, traditions which seem to be lost on you.

Rooooooodney wrote:
You should check into the Liberty Net at 10:00 PM
saturday night (3.955 (+/- 10 kc) A real collection
of crakns, grumpy old men, kooks and weirdoes.
You would fit right in like lime jell-o into a piehole....

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

No, no, no! You've got it wrong!

That should read "Dah dah dah dah dah", which means "Zero".

So, I suppose you're right in one respect - the useful
contribution that you make to this NG and to _REAL_
Ham Radio is......ZERO!

Epsilon wrote:
Here we go again.......... Blah blah blah blah blah.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

If you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then continue to publish Childish Broadcasts (CB) such as you
do below.

Stupid boy.

Epsilon wrote:
Do you cut and paste your messages. Is that how lazy you are.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Sorry - somehow lost the cross-posted groups!

Pierian Spring wrote:
Apart from the gratuitous abuse in the last line quoted below,
you have forgottne very quickly your remark, "About sums you
up - old views, old world, just old..... "

You are so habituated by insulting and childish outbursts
that you assume it to be normal adult behaviour - it isn't.

As to your farce of an apology - as I remember it - it
was disingenuous - blaming me for your own social
maladjustments and was followed almost
immediately by further rudeness.

You don't realise that you're doing it, for which reason
you are a bad example to youngsters and therefore
should not be employed in _ANY_ capacity in _ANY
school.



Leigh Preece wrote:

What insulting remark? I haven't made any recent remarks and, for past
remarks, you surely remember my public apology?

He just hates it when he can't return the volley when challenged!

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

Oops, I seem to have lost the other groups again.

Sorted!

Pierian Spring responded with justifiable indignation to LEIGH PREECE:
Oh, I almost forgot your criminal breaches of
the Telecommunications Act, the Forgery Act,
and the Malicious Communications Act wherein
you forged grossly offensive postings to the Internet
that purported to have come from me.

No, I don't think that you should work in schools.

Pierian Spring wrote:
You yourself published the remarks quoted below by repeating
them in the post which I quoted below. If you do not believe
them to be true, why did you repeat them?

My opinion of you which has been caused by your own
one-sided campaign of vituperative bile, was brought
about by your obsession with me, your habituation with
the publishing of infantile and grossly offensive
comments, your cowardly use of pseudonyms behind
from which to further vent your spleen, your admission of guilt
by an apology (after which you continued to be abusive and
trying to justify your abuse thereby calling into question your
sincerity), and your attempts to justify your infantile outbursts,
is that you are of an immature, anti-social and maladjusted
personality that is a disgustingly poor example to give to
children and which means that you are a danger to children
and should not be employed in _ANY_ capacity in _ANY_ school.

Your childish outbursts and my indignant responses to them have
occurred
entirely within the public forum of this NG. If there are any issues
arising therefrom, then this NG is the place to raise them, entirely
open and above board. I see no reason to run away and hide in
a cowardly fashion in an email discourse. This very-public situation
has come about entirely by your own action, and it is a sign of your
continuing infantility that you wish to suppress public criticism of
yourself and your public childishness.

Try growing up.

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

"tox" wrote:

No worse than DSP, heat bands, polarised resistors, fettling, slope
detection, big k and
of course, lol...unclear emissions!


if i didnt know any better i'd swear you have bits of twine attached to
your wrists and the othr ends of the twine lead to somewhere in kent.

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

By "kent", do you mean "trousers"?
(along the lines of Oxford Bags)


zYYPK wrote:
"tox" wrote:

No worse than DSP, heat bands, polarised resistors, fettling, slope
detection, big k and
of course, lol...unclear emissions!


if i didnt know any better i'd swear you have bits of twine attached to
your wrists and the othr ends of the twine lead to somewhere in kent.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

I suggest that you learn something about computers - the
qsl web site was working well in the 5 minutes immediately before
I wrote my original post (the one that got lost).

And, on checking now, it is still working; I wouldn't follow
if the roles were reversed, but you
may like to try the following....

http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh/about%20me.htm

So, what happened? Did the infantile and aggressive persona
that you present to this NG result in you getting sacked as
someone being unsuitable to have contact with chidren?

Leigh Preece wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
(Previous post seems to have got lost, I though I'd replied,
perhaps I mistakenly emailed the CBer instead?)

I do not claim that you work in a school. I only state that
the infantile and maladjusted persona that you present
renders you unsuitable to work in _ANY_ school in
_ANY_ capacity.

The only claim to be working in a school, Maryhill High
School in Kidsgrove, comes in an entry in QSL.NET for
someone with the same name as you, and with the
CBer's callsign, M5GWH.

You will notice that the website no longer works and what is there has
not been updated since February 2004 - so you are basing your knowledge
on old and incorrect information.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

I mean, in this report you seem to be the bee's knees,.....

http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/ne...31222med.shtml

But now you're suggesting that you're persona non grata?

What happened?

Or is this merely your attempt at FUD/Disinformation, and you
were given an official warning the last time that you brought
Maryhill High School into disrepute?

Pierian Spring wrote:
I suggest that you learn something about computers - the
qsl web site was working well in the 5 minutes immediately before
I wrote my original post (the one that got lost).

And, on checking now, it is still working; I wouldn't follow
if the roles were reversed, but you
may like to try the following....

http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh/about%20me.htm

So, what happened? Did the infantile and aggressive persona
that you present to this NG result in you getting sacked as
someone being unsuitable to have contact with chidren?

Leigh Preece wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
(Previous post seems to have got lost, I though I'd replied,
perhaps I mistakenly emailed the CBer instead?)

I do not claim that you work in a school. I only state that
the infantile and maladjusted persona that you present
renders you unsuitable to work in _ANY_ school in
_ANY_ capacity.

The only claim to be working in a school, Maryhill High
School in Kidsgrove, comes in an entry in QSL.NET for
someone with the same name as you, and with the
CBer's callsign, M5GWH.

You will notice that the website no longer works and what is there has
not been updated since February 2004 - so you are basing your knowledge
on old and incorrect information.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - theXmas FAQ
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
I mean, in this report you seem to be the bee's knees,.....

http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/ne...31222med.shtml

But now you're suggesting that you're persona non grata?

What happened?

Or is this merely your attempt at FUD/Disinformation, and you
were given an official warning the last time that you brought
Maryhill High School into disrepute?

Old news.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - theXmas FAQ
 

Pierian Spring wrote:

I suggest that you learn something about computers - the
qsl web site was working well in the 5 minutes immediately before
I wrote my original post (the one that got lost).

It's a not a site - but a page.

And, on checking now, it is still working; I wouldn't follow
if the roles were reversed, but you
may like to try the following....

http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh/about%20me.htm

Ermm - that's a webpage from a defunct site - an orphan page with no
parent - so literally just existing and not referenced.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ
 

No, you are quite wrong on two counts.....
1. The qsl web site is definitely a site and not a page.

2. "http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh/about%20me.htm" is not
an orphan at all, because if you try for "http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh",
you get access to a fairly extensive directory.

I suggest that you learn something about computers.

Leigh Preece wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
I suggest that you learn something about computers - the
qsl web site was working well in the 5 minutes immediately before
I wrote my original post (the one that got lost).

It's a not a site - but a page.

And, on checking now, it is still working; I wouldn't follow
if the roles were reversed, but you
may like to try the following....
http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh/about%20me.htm

Ermm - that's a webpage from a defunct site - an orphan page with no
parent - so literally just existing and not referenced.

Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - theXmas FAQ
 

Pierian Spring wrote:

No, you are quite wrong on two counts.....
1. The qsl web site is definitely a site and not a page.

I insist that it is simply a page - maybe you should learn the rudiments
of website assembly as there is no identifiable index or homepage but a
collection of orpan pages or what would have been 'parent/child' pages.

2. "http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh/about%20me.htm" is not
an orphan at all, because if you try for "http://www.qsl.net/m5gwh",
you get access to a fairly extensive directory.

Yes - correct - but again this is a directory listing and not a website
as, I state above, a website requires a definate 'index' or 'home' page.

I suggest that you learn something about computers.

I suggest you learn something about website construction and the
heirarchy system of website structure.

Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote:

By "kent", do you mean "trousers"?
(along the lines of Oxford Bags)

probably...

i Obviously dont mean in the way of MORSE KEYS

Pepper And Salt - Re Eric Williams M3EJO
 

Eric 2E0ECW wrote:

Please quote said personal attack.

tut tut tut... dont you know he cant do that here...???





anyway... hows the morse code going or are you just wasting time ?