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what a merial to my memory joking about rape
On 21 Dec 2005 09:23:43 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: K4YZ wrote: Forging "raped an old friend" was right? Nowhere did I "forge" a nickname or screen name, Brain. Yes, I poked fun at Markie in the attributes line, but neither you nor he can provide a single "forged" post. there you have ladies gentlemen and germs (that is you stvie) Stvie think srape is a matter for fun Maybe I shuld forward this stuff to some of the real femmiNazi's types I know lse if they want to flame stevie the asshole of RRAp everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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"taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. I am going to demand that you deliver a complete, unconditional apology via Registered Mail to my home address no later than 27 December 2005. Should you fail to do so, I am prepared to move against you in civil court. I am also prepared to move against you in criminal court. Ignore this as you will, however I am counselled by an Attorney in the State of Michigan that grounds exist and he is willing to file them on my behalf. Said apology will also appear in RRAP. That having been said, you are free to do as you wish, but the consequences are yours to bear. Steven J Robeson |
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This is rich coming from the Dud who pretty much pioneered the concept of "insult their family" in rrap. Examples: "Speaking of surly lapdogs with poor gums, how IS Mrs Lennie ..." "Dust them off occassionally with Mrs Putzman's correspondence courses, no doubt?" "G'nite! Best to Mrs Lennie!" "I can't imagine the slimey feeling Mrs. A must get having to be near you. God I hope you never had the chance to procreate." "Please re-direct your comments to someone who LIKES scumbags...Like Mrs Lennie, for example." "The ones I feel sorry for are Mrs Lennie and thier cats." "Does Mrs. Lennie know she's sleeping with a patholgical liar, Lennie?" "And since Mrs Lennie the First has since passed away and you are now....." "Mrs A is getting her neo-Nazi leatehrs out for you...." "ressurected from wherever it is he and Mrs Lennie slither ..." "I am sure Mrs. Brokeslob wonders what her little Hansie is up to." "I reitierate my assumption that Mrs. Brokeslob has cut off the goodies again...." "Mrs Brokeslob catch you eyeing the neighbor's kids again?" "Your kids will read these some day and they'll see what an unethical toad you really are, Brain." "I'm sure your children are proud of their daddy." "What are you going to say to your kids when they confront you with this stuff one day?" Google provides. |
A Last WARNING to Mark Morgan
Iitoi wrote: K4YZ Wrote: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. I am going to demand that you deliver a complete, unconditional apology via Registered Mail to my home address no later than 27 December 2005. Should you fail to do so, I am prepared to move against you in civil court. I am also prepared to move against you in criminal court. Ignore this as you will, however I am counselled by an Attorney in the State of Michigan that grounds exist and he is willing to file them on my behalf. Said apology will also appear in RRAP. That having been said, you are free to do as you wish, but the consequences are yours to bear. Steven J Robeson This is rich...SNIP Probably so. Nonetheless, the clock is ticking. I hope Markie finds his way to the post office. I'd rather not let this guy get all of my retainer. Steve, K4YZ |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Bull****. The first thing any attorney would do is tell you to make no contact with the other party except through your attorney. The next thing he would do is browse your posting history and drop you like a hot potato. Maybe someday you'll learn the difference between reality and your little fantasy world -- but obviously not any time soon. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in .com: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Bull****. The first thing any attorney would do is tell you to make no is no doubt you bull **** expert for here and stebe is bigest bull****ter who ever write email. there is no lawyer just like you say and stebe make it all up LIKE LYING BITCH HE IS. marry christmas. |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
K4YZ wrote: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, It is vulgar, but did you draw that line or did Mark? Everybody seems to have different lines, as you've demonstrated. and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) (Mark made death threats? Welp, you know what you said about people who shoot their mouth off to the wrong person. Looks like you finally got the reaction you've been begging for for so long.) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. Houghton. I've been there. In 1992 I went all the way out to the end of the Keewenaw Peninsula. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Yeh. Probably costs more than Tennessee lawyers. Cost of living and all. I am going to demand that you deliver a complete, unconditional apology via Registered Mail to my home address no later than 27 December 2005. You're going to, or you already have demanded an apology? What did your attorney say about these demands? If Mark capitulates, do you get your retainer back? Should you fail to do so, I am prepared to move against you in civil court. Yikes! Is that legal? Will they dim the lights and play music? I am also prepared to move against you in criminal court. Now that definitely sounds illegal. Someone call the bailiff, the Sgt at Arms, somebody. Ignore this as you will, however I am counselled by an Attorney in the State of Michigan that grounds exist and he is willing to file them on my behalf. What did the head counsellor say? Said apology will also appear in RRAP. It will? Who would see it with all the Spam? That having been said, you are free to do as you wish, but the consequences are yours to bear. As are all things in America. Steven J Robeson This could get interesting, you moving against Mark in a courtroom. I'm thinking of that Nextel commercial with the boombox and the "Oooh Baby Baby" song playing. Your ridiculousness cracks me up. You ought to tone down your rhetoric and apologize to Mark before he brings a countersuit. You probably have more to lose than Mark, and this will probably make it to the Nurses Board. Not good. In the end, only your Michigan attorney will be ahead. Merry Christmas. |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in .com: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Bull****. The first thing any attorney would do is tell you to make no contact with the other party except through your attorney. The next thing he would do is browse your posting history and drop you like a hot potato. Maybe someday you'll learn the difference between reality and your little fantasy world -- but obviously not any time soon. Reread his desire to "move against Mark in a courtroom." Kinkiest damned thing I ever heard of. |
more threats fro the asshole of RRAP
On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
"taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. I am going to demand that you deliver a complete, unconditional apology via Registered Mail to my home address no later than 27 December 2005. Should you fail to do so, I am prepared to move against you in civil court. I am also prepared to move against you in criminal court. Ignore this as you will, however I am counselled by an Attorney in the State of Michigan that grounds exist and he is willing to file them on my behalf. Said apology will also appear in RRAP. That having been said, you are free to do as you wish, but the consequences are yours to bear. Steven J Robeson everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
K4YZ wrote: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. I am going to demand that you deliver a complete, unconditional apology via Registered Mail to my home address no later than 27 December 2005. Should you fail to do so, I am prepared to move against you in civil court. I am also prepared to move against you in criminal court. Ignore this as you will, however I am counselled by an Attorney in the State of Michigan that grounds exist and he is willing to file them on my behalf. apology for what? treating you as you have treated countless others I am Sorry BTW it was nessary to use such measures against you I am not sory I have done so apolize to to piece of **** that think RAPE is funny/ you are nuts clears and obviously lying some more |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in .com: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Bull****. The first thing any attorney would do is tell you to make no contact with the other party except through your attorney. Frank, I've been thinking about this, and you're right. An attorneey would tell him that. But what makes you think that Steve would actually listen to the advice of his lawyer? Steve is a bully, and he would expect his lawyer to get him out of whatever trouble his mouth got him into. Notice his need to have Mark publish an apology on RRAP. Pure ego. The next thing he would do is browse your posting history and drop you like a hot potato. Maybe an attorney in the Frozen North needs to pay his heating bill and would actually represent a bozo loke Steve regardless of how idiotic he is. |
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A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 26 Dec 2005 12:27:44 -0800, wrote in .com: Frank Gilliland wrote: On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in .com: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Bull****. The first thing any attorney would do is tell you to make no contact with the other party except through your attorney. Frank, I've been thinking about this, and you're right. An attorneey would tell him that. But what makes you think that Steve would actually listen to the advice of his lawyer? Steve is a bully, and he would expect his lawyer to get him out of whatever trouble his mouth got him into. Notice his need to have Mark publish an apology on RRAP. Pure ego. The next thing he would do is browse your posting history and drop you like a hot potato. Maybe an attorney in the Frozen North needs to pay his heating bill and would actually represent a bozo loke Steve regardless of how idiotic he is. Major Dud isn't going to take any legal action against anyone in the newsgroup -- he maintains too many personal and professional lies to risk having them exposed and publically recorded in a court of law. In fact, his lies about his USMC and EMT 'careers' cast serious doubt on any claims about his daughter, especially when his idea of 'grief' is to plaster this sob-story all over the internet and beg for sympathy and attention; i.e, any legal representative Dudly may have is going to be a court-appointed attorney. he would also need a cuase of action to file suit with that is he must show that he is damaged in way that money can make up for or the case never gets to court the best case he has is trakmark infringemn that I have violated his tradmerk internet attacks style ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Michigan stalking laws
On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote:
[a bunch of pipe dreams] Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. ===(begin quote from http://www.counseling.mtu.edu/Stalking.htm)=== According to Michigan Penal Code MCLA 650.411 h, stalking is defined as: "...a 'willful course of conduct' involving repeated or continuing harassment of another individual that would cause a reasonable person to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, 'harassed', or molested, and that actually causes the victim to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed, or molested." In this definition, "willful course of conduct" refers to a pattern of behavior made up of a series of two or more separate and noncontinuous acts which share the same purpose. The term "harassed" is defined as repeated contact without permission, resulting in emotional distress. Stalking takes many forms According to the anti-stalking laws, a person can be charged with stalking for willfully and repeatedly contacting another individual, without permission, causing that person to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed, or molested. Under these laws, assailants could be charged with stalking for repeatedly: * Following or appearing within the sight of another. * Approaching or confronting another individual in a public or private place. * Appearing at the work place or residence of another. * Entering or remaining on an individual's property. * Contacting by telephone. * Sending regular e-mail to you (also known as "cyber-stalking"). * Sending false regular or e-mail to other people about you (also known as "cyber-stalking"). Anyone can be a stalker! Punishment for stalking In the State of Michigan stalking is a misdemeanor offense. When individuals are convicted of stalking, they have the following punishment [MCLA 750.411h]: * Up to one year imprisonment, or * Up to $1,000 in fines, or both. * Up to five years probation. The order of probation may include an order to: stop stalking anyone. stop having contact with the victim. be evaluated to determine the need for pschological evaluation or social counseling (at the stalker's expense). Aggravated stalking * In the State of Michigan aggravated stalking is a felony and involves at least one of the following [MCLA 750.411i]: * One or more threats to kill or physically harm an individual -- or a member of an individual's household or family -- that causes the individual hearing the threat to fear for his or her safety or the safety of another. * The violation of a condition of a pre-trial release or condition of probation or bond for stalking. * The violation of a personal protection (restraining) order. * A repeat offense. Punishment for aggravated stalking In the State of Michigan, when an individual is convicted of aggravated stalking the punishment is: * Up to five years imprisonment, or * Up to $10,000 in fines, or both * Any term of probation (including life), but not less than five years probation. The order of probation is the same as that of the misdemeanor, with the addition: the stalker is not allowed contact with the victim's family members or with people in the victim's household. Options for victims of stalking * The victim may report the incident to the appropriate law enforcement agency. Michigan law gives the survivor up to seven years to initiate prosecution. However, the earlier the incident is reported the better the chance for prosecution and conviction. Filing a police report involves describing in detail the events that took place and providing as much information as possible about the stalker(s). The police will immediately begin to collect evidence. A victim may request that an advocate or support person accompany them during the reporting process. An advocate might be a friend, a counselor from Counseling Services or a crime victim advocate from Dial Help (482- HELP). The victim may also file a civil suit against the accused seeking monetary compensation. Legal Services of Northern Michigan (482-3908) can be helpful in this instance, particularly for students who lack the funds to pursue an attorney advocate through conventional means. Build your case against the stalker by providing the police with any or all of the following: * Documentation (personal journal or diary) of the stalker's activities. * A list of contacts with the stalker (time & place, with whom, etc.) * A record of all the verbal exchanges (quotes, letters, e-mails, etc.) * Taped recording(s) of threatening telephone calls. * Videotapes of the stalker's actions. * Basic identifying information (i.e. license plate number, make of car, personal appearance). Exercise your legal rights: Get an anti-stalking personal protection (restraining) order from your local circuit court (this order states that the stalker is to have no contact with the victim; if violated, criminal penalties will follow). This will not only protect you, but also assist the law enforcement agency in enforcing the anti-stalking law. It also increases the penalties should the stalker violate the restraining order [MCLA 600.2950a]. You may also bring a civil action against your stalker. This allows you to sue him or her for any damage they have done, your emotional harm, and may entitle you to exemplary damages and legal fees as well [MCLA 600.2954]. Do not minimize the danger of being stalked -- many people across the country have been assaulted and even killed by a stalker they did not take seriously. Take action and survive! |
back to subject stvei making jokes about rape
Christy D wrote: On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: [a bunch of pipe dreams] Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. all you are doing is showing why I should conitue with my course of action stevie has been stalking me for years and I am not stalking him indeed nothing in that list is being done to Stevie he OTH has threatened to kill me, stalks me in email |
Michigan stalking laws
ahahahaha. your ass is grass and steve has a lawn mower! ahahahahahah!
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more shit from the asshole of RRAP
Mark Freak wrote: ahahahaha. your ass is grass and steve has a lawn mower! ahahahahahah! bull**** nothing would please me more than stevie telling a big enough set of lies to attarct the attention of the cops but stevie is just lying |
Michigan stalking laws
you ass gona be soooo red after D.A.run over you with steves lawn mower.
ahhahahahah! love it! |
just fess up stvei
Mark Freak wrote: you ass gona be soooo red after D.A.run over you with steves lawn mower. ahhahahahah! love it! more forgery stveie grow up |
just fess up stvei
"an old friend" wrote more forgery stveie grow up WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
just fess up stvei
KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote more forgery stveie grow up WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 stevei is the asshole that cried worf you can find the phrase on google I suspect |
just fess up stvei
"an old friend" wrote stevei is the asshole that cried worf WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
just fess up stvei
KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote stevei is the asshole that cried worf WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! porr hans brain stuck again gues you are just not up on modern lit |
just fess up stvei
"an old friend" wrote gues you are just not up on modern lit Here's some modern lit for you...... ---- http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
just fess up stvei
KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote gues you are just not up on modern lit Here's some modern lit for you...... poor WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 just check out real lit but you are too much of an old foggey to learn much |
Michigan stalking laws
On 27 Dec 2005 00:17:54 GMT, "Christy D"
wrote in : On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: [a bunch of pipe dreams] Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. ===(begin quote from http://www.counseling.mtu.edu/Stalking.htm)=== According to Michigan Penal Code........ Irrelevant. Dudly lives in Tennessee (or so he claims). That makes it a federal issue which precludes state jurisdiction in both civil and criminal matters. Federal stalking violations require the stalker to physically cross state boundries, something which doesn't happen on the internet (unless someone has secretly invented some sort of Star Trek internet transporter device.....). But let's get into this a little deeper. Stalking may be defined differently in different states, but all states have stalking laws that have two things in common: 1. The stalker presents a "threat"; and 2. That threat induces "fear". First, the "threat". There are threats made all the time, both on and off the internet. The vast majority of those threats never amount to squat. This is even more true with internet threats since people tend to be a little more 'outspoken' when they don't have to worry about getting punched in the face (kind of ironic how easy threats are made when there is no fear of retaliation). Add to that the abusive nature of this paticular forum, the fact that Major Dud has participated in this forum for at least seven years, seen many threats made by others, and has even made a few threats himself. Second, the "fear". Actually, the issue is how to demonstrate that the threat caused fear. This is done by showing how any reasonable person reacts to fear and comparing those reactions to the reactions of the person claiming to be the victim. After receiving a threat, does a reasonable person remain in the presence of the stalker and provoke the stalker to make more threats? Of course not. I doubt that very many UN-reasonable people would do that. But Dudly does, and he does so with an odor of conceit that, in and of itself, evokes . There was no fear, and therefore no threat. And therefore no case. Now that we have covered criminal stalking laws at the state and federal levels, let's try civil law. Civil cases are adjudicated by a preponderance of the evidence, -not- by reasonable certainty. That, in and of itself, pretty much throws Dudly out of court since his own behavior in this newsgroup has been..... well, less than admirable. There have been no racial slurs against him (although he has made a couple of marginally prejudicial statements about "do-rag wearing, be-bop hopping delinquents who think that a 'drive-by' is an Olympic Sport"), so there are no grounds for federal action based on racial discrimination (-by- him; however, there might be grounds to bring action -against- him depending on what he has written as one of his sock-puppets.....). What's left? Libel? That might be a valid argument if not for the fact that Dudly's name and reputation were disgraced by his own lies and ****-poor behavior -long- before said threat occured. No case there. Finally, let's try the court of public opinion. This is the USA, right? Well, just how patriotic is it to have a bumper sticker that says "UAW can KMA"? Especially for a retired USMC Gunnery Sergeant (who claims to have never been a reservist yet also claims to have served with 1/24, a USMC Reserve unit)? Then there is the little issue about his claims to be an EMT yet was refused a license to pursue that "hobby". So now he cruises the streets with a scanner, a medical bag, and a light-bar in the trunk, looking for an opportunity to be a hero. I'm sure that doesn't present a good image to the public..... do you? If there is -any- legal action to be taken here is should be -against- Major Dud for impersonating a Marine, an emergency services official, and an FCC-licensed amateur radio operator. If you want to play the lawyer, "Cristy", then cite some law in regards to -THOSE- offenses. If not then shut the **** up and let Dudly reap what he has sown. Frank Gilliland, pro se. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Michigan stalking laws
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 27 Dec 2005 00:17:54 GMT, "Christy D" wrote in : On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: [a bunch of pipe dreams] Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. ===(begin quote from http://www.counseling.mtu.edu/Stalking.htm)=== According to Michigan Penal Code........ Irrelevant. Dudly lives in Tennessee (or so he claims). That makes it a federal issue which precludes state jurisdiction in both civil and criminal matters. Federal stalking violations require the stalker to physically cross state boundries, something which doesn't happen on the internet (unless someone has secretly invented some sort of Star Trek internet transporter device.....). But let's get into this a little deeper. Stalking may be defined differently in different states, but all states have stalking laws that have two things in common: 1. The stalker presents a "threat"; and 2. That threat induces "fear". First, the "threat". There are threats made all the time, both on and off the internet. The vast majority of those threats never amount to squat. This is even more true with internet threats since people tend to be a little more 'outspoken' when they don't have to worry about getting punched in the face (kind of ironic how easy threats are made when there is no fear of retaliation). Add to that the abusive nature of this paticular forum, the fact that Major Dud has participated in this forum for at least seven years, seen many threats made by others, and has even made a few threats himself. Second, the "fear". Actually, the issue is how to demonstrate that the threat caused fear. This is done by showing how any reasonable person reacts to fear and comparing those reactions to the reactions of the person claiming to be the victim. After receiving a threat, does a reasonable person remain in the presence of the stalker and provoke the stalker to make more threats? Of course not. I doubt that very many UN-reasonable people would do that. But Dudly does, and he does so with an odor of conceit that, in and of itself, evokes . There was no fear, and therefore no threat. And therefore no case. Now that we have covered criminal stalking laws at the state and federal levels, let's try civil law. Civil cases are adjudicated by a preponderance of the evidence, -not- by reasonable certainty. That, in and of itself, pretty much throws Dudly out of court since his own behavior in this newsgroup has been..... well, less than admirable. There have been no racial slurs against him (although he has made a couple of marginally prejudicial statements about "do-rag wearing, be-bop hopping delinquents who think that a 'drive-by' is an Olympic Sport"), so there are no grounds for federal action based on racial discrimination (-by- him; however, there might be grounds to bring action -against- him depending on what he has written as one of his sock-puppets.....). What's left? Libel? That might be a valid argument if not for the fact that Dudly's name and reputation were disgraced by his own lies and ****-poor behavior -long- before said threat occured. No case there. Finally, let's try the court of public opinion. This is the USA, right? Well, just how patriotic is it to have a bumper sticker that says "UAW can KMA"? Especially for a retired USMC Gunnery Sergeant (who claims to have never been a reservist yet also claims to have served with 1/24, a USMC Reserve unit)? Then there is the little issue about his claims to be an EMT yet was refused a license to pursue that "hobby". So now he cruises the streets with a scanner, a medical bag, and a light-bar in the trunk, looking for an opportunity to be a hero. I'm sure that doesn't present a good image to the public..... do you? If there is -any- legal action to be taken here is should be -against- Major Dud for impersonating a Marine, an emergency services official, and an FCC-licensed amateur radio operator. If you want to play the lawyer, "Cristy", then cite some law in regards to -THOSE- offenses. If not then shut the **** up and let Dudly reap what he has sown. and if stveie in fact gets some one to pay attention to his BS it will liely give me the chance to get them to deal with him Stevie might be able to spin a good tale to inconvence me awhile but then.... Frank Gilliland, pro se. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Michigan stalking laws
an old friend wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote: sewer output flushed. Frank and you belong together. no one else would bother with the two of you. enjoy your gay sex about how you are un touchable. ah hahahahahahahah! |
stveie the asshole forges some more
Mark Freak wrote: an old friend wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: sewer output flushed. Frank and you belong together. no one else would bother with the two of you. enjoy your gay sex about how you are un touchable. ah hahahahahahahah! right that has to be stevie everyone that opposes stevie is gay |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
From: Frank Gilliland on Mon, Dec 26 2005 1:34 pm
On 26 Dec 2005 12:27:44 -0800, wrote in Frank Gilliland wrote: On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in Major Dud isn't going to take any legal action against anyone in the newsgroup -- he maintains too many personal and professional lies to risk having them exposed and publically recorded in a court of law. "Professional lies?" :-) Dud lied the old-fashioned way, he WORKED at it...:-) It's too bad that he was never able to "work in" a good forgery of his "last" DD-214. Nor was he able to "work in" a single reference for his wondrous exploits over the last three decades other than what he wrote about himself. In fact, his lies about his USMC and EMT 'careers' cast serious doubt on any claims about his daughter, especially when his idea of 'grief' is to plaster this sob-story all over the internet and beg for sympathy and attention; i.e, any legal representative Dudly may have is going to be a court-appointed attorney. That's going to be a trick: Getting a "court-appointed attorney" in a civil case! :-) Dud won't get past the Hearing on a civil case, any state. Once the judge stops his uproarious laughing, it will be tossed off any docket. Well, there is SOME hope...maybe Court TV (channel) is looking for some comic-relief half-hour to fill up their cable broadcast schedule? That could be a winner! Imagine Harvey Levin as the "color" man interviewing "Major" Dud (wearing his CAP poopy suit) in a pretend-format a la Geraldo Rivera? [Harvey doesn't do the moustache thing so Dud has to wear it for him!] |
just fess up stvei
an old friend wrote:
KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote stevei is the asshole that cried worf WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! porr hans brain stuck again gues you are just not up on modern lit gues you believe that Star Trek is a part of modern lit It's clear that where you get your lang that crazy, mixed up stih. Dave K8MN |
just fess up stvei
Dave Heil wrote: an old friend wrote: KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote stevei is the asshole that cried worf WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! porr hans brain stuck again gues you are just not up on modern lit gues you believe that Star Trek is a part of modern lit No dave boy I know it is Trek is taught in enas such in major universities as such and they are the judges of such in the USA It's clear that where you get your lang that crazy, mixed up stih. ah now you choose to insult Treekies i realys should cross post your remarks somehwere and let you see the results Dave K8MN |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
"Professional lies?" :-) Dud lied the old-fashioned way, he WORKED at it...:-) It's too bad that he was never able to "work in" a good forgery of his "last" DD-214. Nor was he able to "work in" a single reference for his wondrous exploits over the last three decades other than what he wrote about himself. In fact, his lies about his USMC and EMT 'careers' cast serious doubt on any claims about his daughter, especially when his idea of 'grief' is to plaster this sob-story all over the internet and beg for sympathy and attention; i.e, any legal representative Dudly may have is going to be a court-appointed attorney. That's going to be a trick: Getting a "court-appointed attorney" in a civil case! :-) Dud won't get past the Hearing on a civil case, any state. Once the judge stops his uproarious laughing, it will be tossed off any docket. Well, there is SOME hope...maybe Court TV (channel) is looking for some comic-relief half-hour to fill up their cable broadcast schedule? That could be a winner! Imagine Harvey Levin as the "color" man interviewing "Major" Dud (wearing his CAP poopy suit) in a pretend-format a la Geraldo Rivera? [Harvey doesn't do the moustache thing so Dud has to wear it for him!] There is a new digital cable channel on line in our area that is aimed toward the elderly, most specifically the elderly suffering from macular degeneration. All sorts of vitamins, herbs and alleged "natural" cures are available for mail order. You should give it a look, Lennie. Oh (guffaw!), that is not likely to hold much sway where you are concerned Lennie. They have all kinds of pills and potions, salves and incantations, but nary a one has a "cure" for an Old Man With His Head Implanted In His Rectum. At the least, Lennie, your dilemma has one outstanding plus. You will always manage to keep your ears warm even in the coldest of climates. Your hearing may be severely impaired, but you will never have to concern yourself with frostbite to your ears and nose. |
just fess up stvei
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an old friend wrote: KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote stevei is the asshole that cried worf WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! porr hans brain stuck again gues you are just not up on modern lit gues you believe that Star Trek is a part of modern lit No dave boy I know it is Well, Mark Boy, it ranks right up there with Steinbeck and Saroyan. Trek is taught in enas such in major universities as such and they are the judges of such in the USA There's all sorts of nonsense "taught" in universities. I'm sure that any student who is considered learned in Star Trek, is well-equipped to step into the job market. There's your "enas such". It's clear that where you get your lang that crazy, mixed up stih. ah now you choose to insult Treekies Sure I do. "Treekies" are freakies. Actually, I was insulting you. You didn't even recognize, before breaking it up with your comments, that I'd composed a little poem, Walt Whitman. i realys should cross post your remarks somehwere and let you see the results Sure, Mark, give me more ammunition to use in terminating your accounts. Dave K8MN |
Michigan stalking laws
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:26:04 -0800, Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 27 Dec 2005 00:17:54 GMT, "Christy D" wrote in : On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: [a bunch of pipe dreams] Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. ===(begin quote from http://www.counseling.mtu.edu/Stalking.htm)=== According to Michigan Penal Code........ Irrelevant. Dudly lives in Tennessee (or so he claims). That makes it a federal issue which precludes state jurisdiction in both civil and Sigh. Jurisdiction was long ago addressed, but not with the outcome you claim. The overriding consideration is that the crime was committed by a Michigan resident while physically located in Michigan, and that Michigan can therefore prosecute the stalker, no matter where the victim may reside. One resource which discusses this fully is available freely on the web. It is written in language simple enough for a layman like yourself to understand. Here, let me quote part of it. N.B. the final paragraph. Emphasis added for clarity. ====(from Cyberage Stalking by Barbara Fullerton)==== Most stalker cases are prosecuted at the state and local level, so it is up to each state to provide language that will protect potential victims. Most often, first time offenders are given lenient fines or punishments. Some state laws need to be changed to offer more severe punishments. All 50 states have stalking laws, and about 42 states now have laws that include electronic communications as a harassment tool or in some way relate to cyberstalking. States that do not have laws yet a Utah, New Jersey, New Mexico, Idaho, Nebraska, and DC. In 1993, *Michigan was the first state to pass a stalking law that included the words electronic harassment.* It has been a challenge for the states to find a balance between a law that involves expressive conduct and speech which is protected under the First Amendment, and laws that protect victims and forbid harassment and provide privacy. Another problem is the accused may not be in the same jurisdiction as the victim, or where the offense occurred. But in these instances, states have broadened their jurisdiction rules to help address cybercrimes that are not part of their harassment laws, like jurisdiction. *In their jurisdiction laws, courts can look at where the stalking began, various sites the messages may have passed, and the physical location of the stalker.* |
A Last WARNING To Mark Morgan
Frankie of Silliland wrote: On 23 Dec 2005 02:28:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in .com: "taelor_robeson" This was the one that crossed the line, Mark, and the one that will be second in line (behind your death threats) to Houghton County Sheriff's Office. I've retained a lawyer in Michigan. It's expensive, but worth it. Bull#### An opinion from the twice disgraced ex-Marine coward. Thanks, Frankie. I'll print your comments and keep them in reach in the bathroom where they belong. Steve, K4YZ |
Last WARNING to Mark Morgan
an_old_friend wrote: Christy D wrote: On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. all you are doing is showing why I should conitue with my course of action stevie has been stalking me for years and I am not stalking him Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight . indeed nothing in that list is being done to Stevie Sure they are. he OTH has threatened to kill me, stalks me in email Nope. Haven't sent you an e-mailed copy of an RRAP re-post in 6 years, Markie. On the otherhand I not only have copies of letters you have RECENTLY sent me, but the aforementioned RRAP posts. The clock's ticking, Markie. Stop the use of my daughter's name in your RRAP stalkings and stop misrepresenting yourself as my wife and father. It's your choice...And YOUR consequences. Steve, K4YZ |
Michigan stalking laws
On 27 Dec 2005 14:27:50 GMT, "Major Dud in drag"
wrote in : On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:26:04 -0800, Frank Gilliland wrote: On 27 Dec 2005 00:17:54 GMT, "Christy D" wrote in : On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: [a bunch of pipe dreams] Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. ===(begin quote from http://www.counseling.mtu.edu/Stalking.htm)=== According to Michigan Penal Code........ Irrelevant. Dudly lives in Tennessee (or so he claims). That makes it a federal issue which precludes state jurisdiction in both civil and Sigh. Jurisdiction was long ago addressed, It appears that both you and Dudly had the same lysdexic English teacher in High School. but not with the outcome you claim. The difference between state and federal jurisdiction has been argued in the courts for over 200 years and is now very well defined. That difference is reflected in the application of internet stalking laws at the state and federal levels. The passage of VAWA clearly indicates that the federal government recognizes the limitations of state jurisdiction when it comes to interstate stalking via the internet. The overriding consideration is that the crime was committed by a Michigan resident while physically located in Michigan, and that Michigan can therefore prosecute the stalker, no matter where the victim may reside. Wrong. If the crime was "committed" across state boundries, as would be the case if the alleged perp was in Michigan and the alleged victim in Tennessee, the jurisdiction is strictly federal -- the alleged crime can be prosecuted -only- under federal law. If you need legal precedents then I suggest you study some statutory and case law regarding postal and telecommunications crimes. And it's very likely that, in the future, states will be prohibited from prosecuting internet crimes -within- state boundries for the very same reasons that intrastate postal crimes now fall under federal jurisdiction. One resource which discusses this fully is available freely on the web. It is written in language simple enough for a layman like yourself to understand. Here, let me quote part of it. N.B. the final paragraph. Emphasis added for clarity. ====(from Cyberage Stalking by Barbara Fullerton)==== I'll do you one better and provide the link: http://www.llrx.com/features/cyberstalking.htm snip to semi-relevant paragraph Another problem is the accused may not be in the same jurisdiction as the victim, or where the offense occurred. But in these instances, states have broadened their jurisdiction rules to help address cybercrimes that are not part of their harassment laws, like jurisdiction. *In their jurisdiction laws, courts can look at where the stalking began, various sites the messages may have passed, and the physical location of the stalker.* States cannot "broaden their jurisdiction rules" to include other states. That's firmly established law. And I can't imagine why you didn't include this little bit of prose your quote: "There are some ways to help stop cyberstalking: self-regulatory, ignore the stalking, and self-protection. Self-regulatory and self-protection practices can include turning off the computer, changing your email address a few times a year, or dropping out of discussion groups." IOW, the "victim" needs to use some common sense. And I noticed you snipped the rest of my post. Very Dudly-esque. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Last WARNING to Mark Morgan when will stve tell the truth
On 27 Dec 2005 07:58:21 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
an_old_friend wrote: Christy D wrote: On 26 Dec 2005 14:28:34 -0800, an_old_friend wrote: Here is the real truth: You can be charged with stalking, fined $1,000, and sent to jail for one year. If you threatened someone's life, you can be charged with a felony, fined $10,000, and spend five years in jail. Mr. Robeson won't have to spend one penny. all you are doing is showing why I should conitue with my course of action stevie has been stalking me for years and I am not stalking him Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight . right indeed nothing in that list is being done to Stevie Sure they are. such as? he OTH has threatened to kill me, stalks me in email Nope. Haven't sent you an e-mailed copy of an RRAP re-post in 6 years, Markie. never said you had that lately you have just been sending death threats to me for year that is all On the otherhand I not only have copies of letters you have RECENTLY sent me, but the aforementioned RRAP posts. The clock's ticking, Markie. Stop the use of my daughter's name in your RRAP stalkings and stop misrepresenting yourself as my wife and father. blsuter away I am not misrepresting myself my posts are clearly marked as coming from me and none of those acts is stalking asshole It's your choice...And YOUR consequences. Steve, K4YZ everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 BTW with the exalant response steve you can look forward to seeing this email addy on RRAP a while Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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