Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote:



time?

it was time long ago.

i'm glad to say that my VALID qsl card 'box' remains free of any
undesirable hf contacts.

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

"AmateurCB" wrote:

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
It seems that anyone of those who are involved ...


The difference between licence categories is now merely a sop to the few
hams who still retain their licences and want to pull-up-the-ladder behind
them in a pathetic attempt to feel superior. This is what you have just said
this in several paragraphs, but my one brief sentence says it more plainly.

Having several licence classes from CB upwards (is that the right word?) is
an administrative nonsense. Ofcom has already realised this, aided greatly
by RSGB's incompetent bungling in trying to maintain its jobs.

The arbitary categories ARE on the way out, regardless of what you or I may
say about it. We have only to wait and see.



hmmm....





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From: "Brian Reay"
Subject: FULL DETAILS OF NEW LICENCE PROPOSALS ON RA SITE
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:58:32 +0100

The new announced is totally irrational and, at last, finally exposes the
nonsense of the morse requirement. A Foundation Licensee could no way learn
morse to 5wpm (as well as the other material) in a weekend BUT he will be
let loose on HF. A far better qualified B licensee is denied access because
morse is required for HF access!

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

Indeed, and why is it when we observe the
anti-social trends in M3/CB Fools' Licences,
that trend follows the infantile and abusive
histories of those in this NG who have indicated
that thet are part of the training schemes, the Reays,
Gathergoods and Preeces of this world?

Are the L.I.A.R.'s of this world responsible for more
than just technical decline?

Pierian Spring wrote:
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

Michael Garner-Superlative wrote:
Indeed, and why is it when we observe the
anti-social trends in M3/CB Fools' Licences,
that trend follows the infantile and abusive
histories of those in this NG who have indicated
that thet are part of the training schemes, the Reays,
Gathergoods and Preeces of this world?

Are the L.I.A.R.'s of this world responsible for more
than just technical decline?

Pierian Spring wrote:
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Why are you answering your own question?

--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote:
You are hoist by your own petard.

Nah - that's not being hoisted by one's own petard.

When you bang on about youngsters starting at the entry level into the
hobby, referring to them as "retards", and then someone reminds you
that you had a G8 callsign for 12 years and that you were already an
adult when you received it .... that's being hoisted by your own
petard.

When you bang on about the gentlemanly traditions of amateur radio,
then someone reminds you that you were arrested for harassment ....
that's being hoisted by your own petard.

When you bang on about amateur radio being a technical pursuit, then
someone reminds you that you tried to flog an FT101E because you
couldn't tune it up without written instructions ..... that's being
hoisted by your own petard.

73
Mike G4KFK

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

huLLy wrote:
Why are you answering your own question?

"Mike Garner-Superlative" and "Font Of All Knowledge" are just two more
of Gareth's alternative personalities. I have a feeling we'll meet some
more of them before the end of the Christmas holidays.

Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself. Give Gareth enough
bandwidth, and he'll talk himself into a padded cell.

73
Mike G4KFK

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

An interesting thought

I was just turning 15 in 1962 when I obtained my novice license (WN2CJV). A
few years later, I obtained my general (WB2OSP). I obtained my extra class
ticket along with my 1st phone and 2nd telegraph (too young for my 1st plus
needed 6 months shipboard experience) along with my radar endorsement in
1966.

I would gently suggest not a change in years, but a reasonable test for the
licenses. I disliked Morse at first, but ended up copying 40 words per
minute perfect copy in Bainbridge, MD. for the U.S. Navy on a manual
typewriter. For someone who disliked the code, I would suggest that 15 or
20 words per minute is not unreasonable.

As to theory, methinks that one should be able to solve something other than
simple series/parallel circuits (multiple seats of voltage in a complex
circuit) for their extra.

That aside, there should be a fairly simple exam to allow folks easy
entrance into amateur radio. No need for Morse and there should be limited
HF allocations.

Just my thoughts.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse
to have anything to do with such mental derangees
and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps
16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any
way?

Only then, by making it clear that young children are
not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society
of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be
able to influence them not to attempt to join us until
they have achieved maturity?

Word will soon get around if children who have been
conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going
for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will
speak to them.

who realy peed in polymath cheerios?
 

wrote:
huLLy wrote:
Why are you answering your own question?

"Mike Garner-Superlative" and "Font Of All Knowledge" are just two more
of Gareth's alternative personalities. I have a feeling we'll meet some
more of them before the end of the Christmas holidays.

Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself. Give Gareth enough
bandwidth, and he'll talk himself into a padded cell.

only if the standard is much lower than in the USA

73
Mike G4KFK

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

Once again you respond with infantile outbursts
whose purpose is to cause offence.

Shame on you.

The issues you sneer at below have been well
covered - and answered - already and, despite
your somewhat infantile intentions do not
cause offence in the way that you intend;
they only cause amusement to those of
us who are the adults and gentlemen
of Ham Radio- amusement that you
continue to represent yourself as
a maladjusted infant.

As to the issue of harassment, I will cover that
once again. I have contributed to this NG for
a number of years and have consistently
supported my view of what is Ham Radio, and have
done that without indulging in the sorts of behaviours
that are out of place with those associate with the
scouts such as you exhibit below. For some reason,
those from the gutter who should not be associated
in any way with children (such as yourself below) choose
to pick on me and proceed to illustrate very well what is
the difference between those in the hobby (CB Radio) and
those in the adult technical pursuit (Ham Radio). One
such childish degenerate, Brian Reay, G8OSN / M3OSN
subjected me over a number of years to a grossly offensive
series of infantile and abusive tirades in which he accused me
of sheep shagging, said that my wife was a sheep next to
me in the bed, made rude comments about my children,
repeated accused me of drinking methylated spirit and
capped it all by posting publicly that he was deliberately
harassing me and trying to wind me up. I discovered that
when he was demonstrating so publicly his sexual deviation
and obsession with sheep shagging that he was under training
to be a teacher at a girls' school in Dartford, Kent and my
indignation at his one-sided socially-maladjusted campaign
boiled ove rand I suggested, in the best traditions of
public responsibility that his sexual deviation made him
unsuited to being a schoolteacher. Brian Reay's infantile
psyche could not take having the tables turned on him
and he made a deliberately misleading and perjurous
complaint to the plods to claim that I was harassing him
rather than the other way around. The We'll ****e (All
Over You) plods have lng had a campaign of harassment
against me and took Brian Reay at his word, did not
check the evidence (Especially the popsts by Brian Reay
admitting to a campaign of harassment) came to arrest me
in force, kicking me in the face. Now you really ought
to know that it is not an arrest that indicates wickedness,
especially when the matter is dropped for lack of
evidence and without charges being indicted. However, your
infantile disposition and desperate need to cause offence
will not be bothered by a small detail like the truth, will it.
The trial of the plod Richard Fuller for assault is now
scheduled for the 8th Feb at 10:00 AM at Chippenham.

wrote:
Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote:
You are hoist by your own petard.

Nah - that's not being hoisted by one's own petard.

When you bang on about youngsters starting at the entry level into the
hobby, referring to them as "retards", and then someone reminds you
that you had a G8 callsign for 12 years and that you were already an
adult when you received it .... that's being hoisted by your own
petard.

When you bang on about the gentlemanly traditions of amateur radio,
then someone reminds you that you were arrested for harassment ....
that's being hoisted by your own petard.

When you bang on about amateur radio being a technical pursuit, then
someone reminds you that you tried to flog an FT101E because you
couldn't tune it up without written instructions ..... that's being
hoisted by your own petard.

73
Mike G4KFK