wrote:

"Mike Garner-Superlative" and "Font Of All Knowledge" are just two more
of Gareth's alternative personalities. I have a feeling we'll meet some
more of them before the end of the Christmas holidays.

Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself. Give Gareth enough
bandwidth, and he'll talk himself into a padded cell.

You might not be familiar with the 'fettled casting' incident on
uk.rec.models.engineering a couple of years or so ago.

An amazing thread, concerning a casting bought at a show, which at
some point was fettled.

The complianant - no prizes! - exhibited a strange approach to
Customer Relations, allegedly faulty goods, returns policies, consumer
law, etc, but also kept changing his name in the thread. The reasons
can only be guessed at, but one result is to avoid kill filters.

The day's expenses were £25 petrol, £8-50 entry, £126 for the kit; 7
hours driving for the round trip.

However, in the end the 7.5 lb casting wound up in the dustbin, as the
OP couldn't be bothered to take it to the PO to send it off for a
refund. And this is the guy who complained of a University employee
wasting taxpayers money by sending an email three minutes after cop,
and which therefore must have been written during works time. The VC
appears to have told him to combine sex and travel (or words to that
effect).

The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a


from
Aero Spike

Spike wrote:

The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a



Lol, that was great! How inept can you get? I especially liked:

"You are mind-boggling in your sheer and utter moronic stupidity - even
a ten year old kid knows to take his gameboy back to the shop if it
doesn't work. "

A prefect analysis of Gareth Evans, if ever I saw one!

Copied to Blackgates for their amusement.
--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

on 27/12/2005 09:52 Spike said the following:
wrote:


"Mike Garner-Superlative" and "Font Of All Knowledge" are just two more
of Gareth's alternative personalities. I have a feeling we'll meet some
more of them before the end of the Christmas holidays.

Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself. Give Gareth enough
bandwidth, and he'll talk himself into a padded cell.


You might not be familiar with the 'fettled casting' incident on
uk.rec.models.engineering a couple of years or so ago.

An amazing thread, concerning a casting bought at a show, which at
some point was fettled.

The complianant - no prizes! - exhibited a strange approach to
Customer Relations, allegedly faulty goods, returns policies, consumer
law, etc, but also kept changing his name in the thread. The reasons
can only be guessed at, but one result is to avoid kill filters.

The day's expenses were £25 petrol, £8-50 entry, £126 for the kit; 7
hours driving for the round trip.

However, in the end the 7.5 lb casting wound up in the dustbin, as the
OP couldn't be bothered to take it to the PO to send it off for a
refund. And this is the guy who complained of a University employee
wasting taxpayers money by sending an email three minutes after cop,
and which therefore must have been written during works time. The VC
appears to have told him to combine sex and travel (or words to that
effect).

The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a


from
Aero Spike
A gem I remember from that incident was his statement that 'any Company
that operates a Returns Department admits to selling shoddy goods'!
You couldn't make it up!
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

Spike wrote:
The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a


from
Aero Spike

Absolutely hysterical, but I don't believe Gareth wrote any of that,
and here's why. In his regular drivelXXXXX sorry FAQ, he always writes:
"Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who are interested in the
science of radio wave propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing tradition of
providing a source of engineers who are born naturals."

But the person who so publicly demonstrated his stupidity in that
thread stated from the outset: "Incidentally, it was not I who pointed
out the error, but a qualified engineer who was also thinking of buying
one"

Gareth, as we all know, is a "real radio ham", so why would he need to
get the opinion of a qualified engineer?

Must've been somebody else, Shirley?

73
Mike G4KFK

Spike wrote:
The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a


from
Aero Spike

The deranged **** has tried to start a war in uk.rec.scouting with a
posting in the name "Michael Garner-Superlative" likening the Scouts to
Al-Qaedr.

Oh Gareth - they're coming to take you away, ha ha!

73
Mike G4KFK

An interesting thought

I was just turning 15 in 1962 when I obtained my novice license (WN2CJV). A
few years later, I obtained my general (WB2OSP). I obtained my extra class
ticket along with my 1st phone and 2nd telegraph (too young for my 1st plus
needed 6 months shipboard experience) along with my radar endorsement in
1966.

I would gently suggest not a change in years, but a reasonable test for the
licenses. I disliked Morse at first, but ended up copying 40 words per
minute perfect copy in Bainbridge, MD. for the U.S. Navy on a manual
typewriter. For someone who disliked the code, I would suggest that 15 or
20 words per minute is not unreasonable.

As to theory, methinks that one should be able to solve something other than
simple series/parallel circuits (multiple seats of voltage in a complex
circuit) for their extra.

That aside, there should be a fairly simple exam to allow folks easy
entrance into amateur radio. No need for Morse and there should be limited
HF allocations.

Just my thoughts.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse
to have anything to do with such mental derangees
and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps
16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any
way?

Only then, by making it clear that young children are
not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society
of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be
able to influence them not to attempt to join us until
they have achieved maturity?

Word will soon get around if children who have been
conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going
for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will
speak to them.

I think that it is important that we do not fall into the
trap of equivocating over the term, "Novice" - the Novice
licence as it existed in Yankland in those days was
a more advanced technical and constructional standard
than the Novice Licence that ever existed in Britland and
the "Birth Certificate" that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence.

Jim Hampton wrote:
An interesting thought

I was just turning 15 in 1962 when I obtained my novice license (WN2CJV).

Just my thoughts.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

I admired the old US licensing regime with the advanced licence requiring
20wpm......I had a blind American friend K1HBJ/GM5BKJ and 20 wpm was no
problem to him.....but those days have passed and all is lost.....

"jim.gm4dhj" wrote in message
...


Just my thoughts.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

I admired the old US licensing regime with the advanced licence requiring
20wpm......I had a blind American friend K1HBJ/GM5BKJ and 20 wpm was no
problem to him.....but those days have passed and all is lost.....

Theres still the full licence to aim for. That takes a keen knowledge of
Morse does it not, so its still there for those that aspire to it. As for
being blind, as Pointyhead said (I think it was him) its learned through
hearing and used like a language. It doesn't require sight (apart to see
maybe what frequency he/she is transmitting on) so being blind could even
be considered an advantage.

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19

A number of the posts that have been quoted as this
thread has developed seem to serve to re-inforce the
OP, and to justify a repeat of the OP.....

Pierian Spring wrote:
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse
to have anything to do with such mental derangees
and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps
16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any
way?

Only then, by making it clear that young children are
not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society
of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be
able to influence them not to attempt to join us until
they have achieved maturity?

Word will soon get around if children who have been
conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going
for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will
speak to them.