"Spike" wrote in message
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huLLy wrote:

Spike wrote:

The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a


Lol, that was great! How inept can you get?


That wasn't the only thread on the topic. Try the opening post of this
thread; it's an incisive poem (how appropriate!) written by Stephen
Howard:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/53171b7f44a1bf3f/38e9b519f1b62f0b?lnk=st&q=%22or+did+he+just+****+i t%22+group%3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=1&hl=e n#38e9b519f1b62f0b

Enjoy!


from
Aero Spike
ROTFLMAO..to quote from the poem "Airy of Bean, his knees all a quiver" now
that proves he was a choirboy.

// snip //

and have consistently
supported my view of what is Ham Radio, and have
done that without indulging in the sorts of behaviours
that are out of place with those associate with the
scouts such as you exhibit below. For some reason,
those from the gutter who should not be associated
in any way with children (such as yourself below) choose
to pick on me and proceed to illustrate very well what is
the difference between those in the hobby (CB Radio) and
those in the adult technical pursuit (Ham Radio).

CB and Amateur radio are both "hobbies". CB is nowhere near as sophisticated
and held in such high regard as Amateur radio but it is a "hobby"
nontheless.

Here are a few examples of this...

From the ARRL Website,

Here's your invitation to a friendly, high-tech **hobby** that's got
something fun for
everyone! You can become an Amateur Radio operator--no matter what age,
gender or
physical ability. People from all walks of life pass their entry-level exam
and earn
their Amateur (ham) Radio license. They all share the diverse world of
activities you
can explore with ham radio.

From Wikipedia, the olnline encyclopedia,

Amateur radio, often called ham radio, is a **hobby** enjoyed by many people
throughout
the world. An amateur radio operator, ham, or radio amateur uses two-way
radio to
communicate with other radio amateurs, for recreation or self-edification.

From www.101science.com,

INTRODUCTION: You can learn more about amateur radio at the American Radio
Relay League
web site. Want to know what this HAM radio stuff is all about in plain
language? Then
be sure to check the GETTING STARTED page. It includes information on how
to become an
FCC licensed amateur radio operator. For specific licensing information
click HERE.
Amateur radio as a **hobby** has many different aspects. This is one of the
things that makes
amateur radio so wonderful. There are a variety of activities for
everyone; men, women,
and boys and girls.

From eHam.net,

Welcome to the Guide to Amateur Radio for new hams. Whether you are a new
ham radio
operator or are interested in getting into the exciting amateur radio
**hobby** these pages
can be helpful as you explore the many opportunities of Amateur Radio.

From Don Irving, www.irving.org/hamradio/,

Amateur Radio, also called ham radio, is an extensive **hobby** that can be
used for world-wide
communications or for chatting with friends across a parking lot. There are
even gateways
between ham radio and the Internet. There are tons of fun things you can do!

All in all, everyone except a few people from this newsgroup see it as
something more than a hobby. It can be a technical and very advanced hobby
but it remains still a hobby. Why do people disagree and get so upset with
this word?

As most people see it, CB is a Hobby, Amateur is a technical Hobby.

As for the personal abuse you have been getting I think that's more to do
with your attitude and approach to others. I find, in general, if your
polite to people they are polite in reply. If you are arrogant and
dismissive in your attitude you will upset some people who will have a go
back at you in the same manner. I have cut previous posts short in this
newsgroup, not because I have lost the argument but because it's pointless
continuing as the other person has no interest in your point of view (your
as in whoever the poster may be) and is only looking for a one-upmanship
argument (for want of a better word) which benefits no-one and in itself is
a "childish" activity. Baiting people to lose their temper as some do is
also a "childish" thing to do and shouldn't exist in a "Gentleman's Hobby".

I know a few of you don't want to hear this but next year im going to be
taking my M3 licence to talk legally on 2 metres so keep a listen out for
me. I will post my nice new M3 callsign in here when it happens.

Look after yourself during the holidays and a Happy New Year to all,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk)

Word will soon get around if children who have been
conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going
for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will
speak to them.

Agreed......


Just a point to note, before CB came along people who headed the direction
of Amateur radio were classed as " Billy No Mates". Now it seems this phrase
has been re-directed.
As for no-one speaking to them, you should have put no-one like yourself
would speak to them as there are plenty of welcoming souls on the Amateur
bands who welcome all who are genuine in the Hobby.

That said I do agree, unless supervised, youngsters shouldn't be allowed on
air. But then again who am I to impose my thoughts on people. 6 year old
seems ridiculously young to consider able to manage a radio station whatever
their intellectual level.

Regards,
Graham
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-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk)

on 27/12/2005 07:15 The Font Of All Ignorance And Stupidity slurred
drunkenly in the following manner:
crap snipped

rather than the other way around. The We'll ****e (All
Over You) plods have lng had a campaign of harassment
against me and took ***** **** at his word, ...

loads more crap snipped
and why do you think they singled _YOU_ out for this alleged 'campaign
of harassment'?
....(_!_)...
FOAD

"jim.gm4dhj" wrote in message
...


Just my thoughts.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

I admired the old US licensing regime with the advanced licence requiring
20wpm......I had a blind American friend K1HBJ/GM5BKJ and 20 wpm was no
problem to him.....but those days have passed and all is lost.....

Theres still the full licence to aim for. That takes a keen knowledge of
Morse does it not, so its still there for those that aspire to it. As for
being blind, as Pointyhead said (I think it was him) its learned through
hearing and used like a language. It doesn't require sight (apart to see
maybe what frequency he/she is transmitting on) so being blind could even
be considered an advantage.

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19

"Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
on 27/12/2005 07:15 The Font Of All Ignorance And Stupidity slurred
drunkenly in the following manner:
crap snipped
rather than the other way around. The We'll ****e (All
Over You) plods have lng had a campaign of harassment
against me and took ***** **** at his word, ...
loads more crap snipped
and why do you think they singled _YOU_ out for this alleged 'campaign of
harassment'?
Be careful when parking in Chippenham, especially in Hardens Close. The
space outside number 13 seems to be in regular use by plod wagons.

A number of the posts that have been quoted as this
thread has developed seem to serve to re-inforce the
OP, and to justify a repeat of the OP.....

Pierian Spring wrote:
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse
to have anything to do with such mental derangees
and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps
16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any
way?

Only then, by making it clear that young children are
not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society
of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be
able to influence them not to attempt to join us until
they have achieved maturity?

Word will soon get around if children who have been
conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going
for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will
speak to them.

"The Font Of All Knowledge And Wisdom" wrote in
message ups.com...
A number of the posts that have been quoted as this
thread has developed seem to serve to re-inforce the
OP, and to justify a repeat of the OP.....

Sorry to say it Mr Font but..... radio Amateurs will soon no longer exist.
Amateur band is the new CB so you need to move to another hobby to make way
for us. Try flower arranging, im sure it will calm you down .

Regards,
Graham (having an "oh so childish" outburst)

--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19

Spike wrote:
The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch
or three and enjoy the tortured logic:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a


from
Aero Spike

Absolutely hysterical, but I don't believe Gareth wrote any of that,
and here's why. In his regular drivelXXXXX sorry FAQ, he always writes:
"Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who are interested in the
science of radio wave propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing tradition of
providing a source of engineers who are born naturals."

But the person who so publicly demonstrated his stupidity in that
thread stated from the outset: "Incidentally, it was not I who pointed
out the error, but a qualified engineer who was also thinking of buying
one"

Gareth, as we all know, is a "real radio ham", so why would he need to
get the opinion of a qualified engineer?

Must've been somebody else, Shirley?

73
Mike G4KFK

The Font Of All Knowledge And Wisdom wrote:
A number of the posts that have been quoted as this
thread has developed seem to serve to re-inforce the
OP, and to justify a repeat of the OP.....

If you really believe in what you say, why won't you put your real name
and callsign to it? Why all these pompous pseudonyms?

73
Mike G4KFK