Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
I really hesitate to even appear to lend any credence to the rant below
by even responding ...

However, at the same time I feel compelled to state that, when I had the
pleasure of operating 4U1ITU from ITU HQ in Geneva (not too long after
the US insituted the "Foundation Class"), I happily worked a LOT of M3's
(perhaps 50% of about 300 contacts worked in about 2 hours on 20m)

Did you ever wonder how /so/ many were ever able to break the pile up
with 10w? Are you beginning to get the drift?
--
Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge

pointyhead wrote:
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
I really hesitate to even appear to lend any credence to the rant
below by even responding ...

However, at the same time I feel compelled to state that, when I had
the pleasure of operating 4U1ITU from ITU HQ in Geneva (not too long
after the US insituted the "Foundation Class"), I happily worked a
LOT of M3's (perhaps 50% of about 300 contacts worked in about 2
hours on 20m)

Did you ever wonder how /so/ many were ever able to break the pile up
with 10w? Are you beginning to get the drift?

Depending on the location of the rx to the tx, dropping power can sometimes
increase the chances of getting through.

--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

huLLy wrote:

Depending on the location of the rx to the tx, dropping power can sometimes
increase the chances of getting through.

Aye, and I'll bet they all had their PL259's well soaked in brine.

--
Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:25:35 GMT, pointyhead
wrote:

Did you ever wonder how /so/ many were ever able to break the pile up
with 10w? Are you beginning to get the drift?


You should hear VK3MO on 20 metres ssb, S9+ at my location, when he's
running one watt... as every _REAL_ amateur should know the answer is
in the antenna not the RF output.

OK maybe lots of M3s can't resist pushing their newly bought gear up
to 100W or or so., Are you telling me you always keep to the 400W at
the antenna limit?

If you were on 160 metres in the 10W DC input days did you never go
above that? Dozens of G2s and G3s used to run in excess of 100W
output on 160m and some I know ran over 1KW. Some of those read this
newsgroup... bet their faces are red :-)

Nothing ever changes...

Peter, G3PHO

If you were on 160 metres in the 10W DC input days did you never go
above that? Dozens of G2s and G3s used to run in excess of 100W
output on 160m and some I know ran over 1KW. Some of those read this
newsgroup... bet their faces are red :-)


Aye

And asked to QSY by Lands End Radio , by Telephone of course.

A G3 Of course , some time after your Callsign Wlat .


DieSea

Peter wrote:

You should hear VK3MO on 20 metres ssb, S9+ at my location, when he's
running one watt... as every _REAL_ amateur should know the answer is
in the antenna not the RF output.

Are yoiu having a laugh Peter? If so you're the only one laughing. M3CVN
uses a G5RV - maybe that's the secret?!

OK maybe lots of M3s can't resist pushing their newly bought gear up
to 100W or or so., Are you telling me you always keep to the 400W at
the antenna limit?

Yes.

If you were on 160 metres in the 10W DC input days did you never go
above that? Dozens of G2s and G3s used to run in excess of 100W
output on 160m and some I know ran over 1KW. Some of those read this
newsgroup... bet their faces are red :-)

I've only had 2 qso's on topband in my life and never broken the terms
of my licence. At least the G2's and G3's /earned/ the right to be on
the bands, they had nothing given to them.

Nothing ever changes...

No it doesn't, there'll always be some apologist for mediocrity and the
dumbing down of amateur radio to the level of six year olds and retards
with the mental age of 6.

--
Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge

At 370 posts in only 4 days, it certainly seems as though
this is an idea whose time has come!

What a pity, though, that a number of the posts in the thread
served to illustrate the childish behaviour being criticised. Has
the infantility of the 6-year-old mind and its M3/CB Fools'
Licence contaminated Radio Hammery to that extent?

TIME TO PUT THE PROPOSALS BELOW INTO IMMEDIATE EFFECT!

Pierian Spring wrote:
It seems that anyone of those who are involved
in any way with childrens' organisations or with
the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten
entrance examination (that is represented by
the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools'
Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile
outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and
vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only
from the children in their care.

Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse
to have anything to do with such mental derangees
and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps
16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any
way?

Only then, by making it clear that young children are
not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society
of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be
able to influence them not to attempt to join us until
they have achieved maturity?

Word will soon get around if children who have been
conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going
for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will
speak to them.

on 30/12/2005 10:32 Orator For Dementia said the following:
At 370 posts in only 4 days, it certainly seems as though
this is an idea whose time has come!

What a pity, though, that a number of the posts in the thread
served to illustrate the childish behaviour being criticised. Has
the infantility of the 6-year-old mind and its M3/CB Fools'
Licence contaminated Radio Hammery to that extent?

TIME TO PUT THE PROPOSALS BELOW INTO IMMEDIATE EFFECT!

I see the voices in your head have made you answer your own post again.
....(_!_)...

why you put **** in rrap to? kepe it out plaese.

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Yes indeed. Let's all ignore posters like this and get on with enjoying
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HNY to all when it comes )

Graham

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"Orator For Decency" wrote in message
oups.com...
At 370 posts in only 4 days, it certainly seems as though
this is an idea whose time has come!

What a pity, though, that a number of the posts in the thread
served to illustrate the childish behaviour being criticised. Has
the infantility of the 6-year-old mind and its M3/CB Fools'
Licence contaminated Radio Hammery to that extent?

TIME TO PUT THE PROPOSALS BELOW INTO IMMEDIATE EFFECT!

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