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How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
Phil Kane wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:08:36 GMT, KØHB wrote: Which raises the next question --- who CARES what the FCC wants. I care what the FCC wants. Your income is tied to what the FCC wants. Whether I think that they are on the right track or not is not the issue. Correct for a barrister in your position. We the people engage professionals to do a job, in this case, be the "Highway Patrol of the Airwaves". We frustrate that by second-guessing them at every turn, telling them that we know better, and thereby not letting them do the job that we hired them for. That usually involved the assistance of a barrister If the bottom line is that the folks we engage do not do a professional job, throw then out and get folks who will. This presumes that you have better professional qualifications than they do. The NPRM and R/O of 98 sure didn't impress. How many of those folks retired on a fat salary? As an employer you know that scenario very well. Hans is an employer? Of what sort? They should serve the wants of the people, not the other way around. No, they should provide for the NEEDS of the people. Needs/Wants? Jim "needs" numerous license classes. As long as he can stay on top. Otherwise, it's like letting the kids live on candy bars and soda rather than health-giving food. Happy New Year to y'all. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Phil, Happy New Year to you, too!!! |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
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How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
wrote: wrote: On 30 Dec 2005 16:21:17 -0800, wrote: Bill Sohl wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Bill Sohl wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Bill Sohl wrote: cut But FCC said no to all of them involving more privs for Techs, new license classes, automatic upgrades, and much more. Yet nothing in the FCC's rejection even comes close to stating their decision is absolute/final and irrevocable based on the princioples that you ascribe to the FCC. Of course not! No regulatory agency is ever going to say that any decision is final and/or irrevocable. indeed meaning most of what you have been going aboiut is meaningless cut In the few VE sessions I assisted in I don't recall ever seeing one being used. Was the waiver process abused by some? Probably, but it wasn't a wide practice at all. Who can say what constitutes "abuse" if the person got a doctor's note? accorsong the words of Stevie he is and by extention all VE's Steveve has publicaly claimed that he refused to process a (inone case that he admits to) a wiaver. likely there are other example s of VE's doing this it would be ilgeal but it has been done cu Mark, that posting needs to go to Riley. it has gone to the FCC, the FBI, The TN BoN, the AF officers overseeing CAP, the police, and the ARRL VEC if you know how to get it Riley himself please assist me I am more than willing to try the FCC again |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: On 30 Dec 2005 16:21:17 -0800, wrote: Bill Sohl wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Bill Sohl wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Bill Sohl wrote: cut But FCC said no to all of them involving more privs for Techs, new license classes, automatic upgrades, and much more. Yet nothing in the FCC's rejection even comes close to stating their decision is absolute/final and irrevocable based on the princioples that you ascribe to the FCC. Of course not! No regulatory agency is ever going to say that any decision is final and/or irrevocable. indeed meaning most of what you have been going aboiut is meaningless cut In the few VE sessions I assisted in I don't recall ever seeing one being used. Was the waiver process abused by some? Probably, but it wasn't a wide practice at all. Who can say what constitutes "abuse" if the person got a doctor's note? accorsong the words of Stevie he is and by extention all VE's Steveve has publicaly claimed that he refused to process a (inone case that he admits to) a wiaver. likely there are other example s of VE's doing this it would be ilgeal but it has been done cu Mark, that posting needs to go to Riley. it has gone to the FCC, the FBI, The TN BoN, the AF officers overseeing CAP, the police, and the ARRL VEC if you know how to get it Riley himself please assist me I am more than willing to try the FCC again Unlike Steve, Riley actually goes to Dayton. You could hand it to him there. |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
Phil Kane wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 12:56:53 -0800, wrote: I care what the FCC wants. Your income is tied to what the FCC wants. My income is totally independent of what the FCC wants. The agency could be abolished tomorrow and my income will not change one bit (unless "tomorrow" is the day that the COL increase on my pension annuity and Social Security kicks in, as it will tomorrow). The FCC has no connection with that, nor with the private investments that also provide for my retirement income. I didn't realize that you were no longer practicing your craft. The NPRM and R/O of 98 sure didn't impress. How many of those folks retired on a fat salary? If you think that retiring on 50% of a salary that is 50% (or more) less than what one could get in the private sector is "fat", I have a (Weeatstone) bridge that I can sell you "real cheaply". Consider that the newer FERS states very clearly that your Social Security IS your retirement. And I had been told all of my life that it was a SUPPLEMENT to a retirement. The OF's in Federal Service are getting a much better deal than that. Do not forget that a Federal retirement annuity (prension) is not a "gift" from the taxpayers. It is an annuity that is bought by the employee with after-tax money and such purchase is not optional. Writing a sensible NPRM appears to be optional. Does the FCC trot out that kind of crap to the boradcasters? As an employer you know that scenario very well. Hans is an employer? Of what sort? Ask him. Will do. |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
On 31 Dec 2005 15:40:16 -0800, wrote:
an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: On 30 Dec 2005 16:21:17 -0800, wrote: Bill Sohl wrote: wrote in message cut Who can say what constitutes "abuse" if the person got a doctor's note? accorsong the words of Stevie he is and by extention all VE's Steveve has publicaly claimed that he refused to process a (inone case that he admits to) a wiaver. likely there are other example s of VE's doing this it would be ilgeal but it has been done cu Mark, that posting needs to go to Riley. it has gone to the FCC, the FBI, The TN BoN, the AF officers overseeing CAP, the police, and the ARRL VEC if you know how to get it Riley himself please assist me I am more than willing to try the FCC again Unlike Steve, Riley actually goes to Dayton. You could hand it to him there. that is a thought I have considered going to dayton fest for years never made the trip I will mark that down _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
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On 31 Dec 2005 01:52:05 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman) What separates an Extra from an Tech is not a "caste system" but rather who had the motivation to study versus who didn't. a simple lie one of the core lies told by on the side of the ProCode test issue in may case it borders on being a personal slander but that is all to comon too Claiming motivation or a lack of is a lie? How so? Back up your claim with facts. Motivation versus a lack of motivation *is* exactly why we have a population of citizens with various educational, vocational, and wealth differences. Motivation is the key to everything. Study and you'll become what you wish; if you do not study you'll never become anything. Jeff KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
Jeffrey Herman wrote: wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 01:52:05 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman) What separates an Extra from an Tech is not a "caste system" but rather who had the motivation to study versus who didn't. a simple lie one of the core lies told by on the side of the ProCode test issue in may case it borders on being a personal slander but that is all to comon too Claiming motivation or a lack of is a lie? How so? Back up your claim with facts. that is of course easier when taking an extreme example which will follow telling and a person and emstraing the power tocarry out the threat if if doesn't learn to flap his arms and fly the will be killed and the wholepopulation of the killed first in front of him is plenty of motiviation to learn to fly it is still impoosible more on point you calim that the only reason I for example don't have an extra class licnse today ist that I am not motivated enough to learn code I tired for years and great effort to learn but failed utterly the reason for my lack an extra class license is not motivation but a lack of abilty Motivation versus a lack of motivation *is* exactly why we have a population of citizens with various educational, vocational, and wealth differences. no it isn't or at least not entirely I am not lawyer making millions at least in parts becuase I find mthe conduct that would be required to sickening, and if some one car to say my spelling is the problem then the blame falls on the factI got a diffeent set of wetware than the rest of you you have repated the standrad lie we have seen in all politics at one time or another that all with less than another deserve their fate becuase they were lazy that John Kerry is not president of the USA is not a matter thathe wasn't motivated enough. or do you claim thats it is I thought he was going to win at one point. I beleive he lost in part for making a tactical error in dealing the swift boat ads your blanket stement that motivation equals succes is a lie plain and simple Motivation is the key to everything. Study and you'll become what you wish; if you do not study you'll never become anything. a lie jeff and a dangerous one Jeff KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System |
How many licenses should there be, why and what privileges?
On 1 Jan 2006 02:19:56 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman) wrote
in : wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 01:52:05 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman) What separates an Extra from an Tech is not a "caste system" but rather who had the motivation to study versus who didn't. a simple lie one of the core lies told by on the side of the ProCode test issue in may case it borders on being a personal slander but that is all to comon too Claiming motivation or a lack of is a lie? How so? Back up your claim with facts. Motivation versus a lack of motivation *is* exactly why we have a population of citizens with various educational, vocational, and wealth differences. Motivation is the key to everything. Study and you'll become what you wish; if you do not study you'll never become anything. The problem is that what motivates you isn't necessarily the same thing that motivates everyone else, and maybe not even a majority. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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