From: on Dec 28, 4:33 pm

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From: on Tues, Dec 27 2005 8:45 pm
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rom: "Dee Flint" on Thurs, Dec 22 2005 3:30 pm
"K0HB" wrote in message
"Dee Flint" wrote


Gee, Len, you've never qualified for *any* amateur radio license...

Gee, Jim, how many times and how many different ways can you say that?

Brian, it's all Jimmie has left in his verbal arsenal. :-)

If so then he is more hollow than the strawmen that he trots out.

But, those hollow strawmen are very easy to build...and so
he keeps on making them...


He still confuses "qualified" with AUTHORIZED insofar as
"operating."

They are synonymous to him.

Maybe Jimmie is listening to his strawmen speak in his ear?


The FCC is very much AUTHORIZED by Congress to regulate ALL U.S.
civil radio. The FCC AUTHORIZES ability to use the EM spectrum
by means of licensing.

However, neither Congress of the United States nor the Commission
itself requires ANY staffer or commissioner to be licensed in any
of the radio services it regulates. Ergo, under Jimmielogic, the
FCC is "not qualified" to regulate U.S. amateur radio. :-)

Not Qualified?

Not in Jimmieworld. ONLY those who already possess official,
valid amateur radio licenses are - in Jimmieworld - "qualified"
to discuss any amateur radio regulations. That way, there is
little conflict due to so many who were required to operate
under the older regulations...which Jimmie passed.


That may be why, on 10 December, Jimmie wrote:

"The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs."

Wonder if Riley got a copy of that original "Jimmyism"?

Doesn't matter if the "special counsel" to the Commission got
it or not. Any permanent staffer at the Commission can see
that Jimmie got it WRONG in public.


The whole point of Jimmie's comment on me was to discourage my
posting. Jimmie's concept of discussion on "amateur radio policy"
is a CLOSED one, limited ONLY to those who have already obtained
an amateur radio license. This is rather wrong in a democratic-
principled society but it fits his insular exclusivity. It also
fits Davie Heil's similar concept about amateur radio, so the
two of them form a mutual-aid enclave in here. Since I don't
agree with the "traditional" ('morse-coded') ideals of old U.S.
amateur radio, Jimmie wants me OUT of the "discussion."

They do try to run people off who happen to disagree with them. I even
entertained thoughts of leaving the group at one time, but I won't let
them run me off. I plan to turn off the lights when this group is
done. Between Steve and Mark, that may be sooner than I thought.

Well, I must admit that there is MUCH posting in this group
that isn't needed (too much cross-posting), full of anony-
mousies that like to cuss and say nasty words, and the Dudly
who refuses to admit he was defeated years ago.


Under Jimmielogic there is NO hope of any unlicensed-in-amateur-
radio person "discussing" anything, regardless of previous
experience in any other radio service. [in Jimmieworld
"amateur radio" is very much different than any other radio
service, therefore ALL unlicensed-in-amateur-radio persons are
"unqualified" to discuss anything] Unlicensed=in-amateur-radio
persons may (in Jimmieconcepts) ask polite questions, but must
never ever disagree with Jimmie (or his mutual opinion aid
enclave) in so doing. At that point, Jimmieguru takes over and
copies off reams of league-speak phrases, elevating amateur
radio to planes of existance far beyond what it really is...just
a hobby. QED.

The Holy Grail is just a hobby?

NOT the Holy Grail of the Judeo-Christian world, the holy grail of
the Church of Saint Hiram. What Jimmie learned in Seminary was
the holy grail of the Church of St. Hiram.

Amateur radio really IS just a hobby, not a profession, not a
"national service" in any way, shape, or form.

There should be NOTHING negative about having a HOBBY. There are
so many different hobbies in this large land, as diverse as there
are different people. What gets bad is when certain hobbyists
demand that THEIR ideas about that hobby MUST apply to everyone
else...or else...

One problem with amateur radio is that, to exist, it must radiate
RF. That requires the FCC to regulate it. The FCC regulates it
by establishing license test regulations. The amateur radio
hobbyists can now point to their "official" licenses and make a
big fuss of how spay-shull they are, "taking tests" to prove how
"qualified" they are, and strutting around like they are a
"national service" of something. Wannabe professionals, stuck
with the classification of "amateurs" (which no doubt rankles
the self-important types in the hobby).


Get ready for some off-topic british humor.

Monty Python strikes again? :-)

"Monty Python and the Holy Grail" was a funny-once comedy movie.
Worth the price of a DVD rental, but not a cinema ticket, if you
ask me. Anglophiles seem to lap that stuff up. Well, it is
better than Pauly Shore on a good night, but not much more... :-)

[Pauly Shore is the son of Mitzi Shore who owns the Comedy Store
nightclub here in Los Angeles...which doesn't make him any good
at comedy but he does have "connections"]