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[email protected] January 4th 06 11:47 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. We lost it, and as
America goes, so goes Canada. I'm sure the McKenzie brothers will be
thanking us.
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From ARRL website:


Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
January 3, 2006 -- Barring an outpouring of "compelling arguments to
the contrary," Industry Canada will reallocate the 220-222 MHz portion
of 220-225 MHz from the Canadian amateur service to the mobile and
fixed services. Under the provisional reallocation, which will take
effect January 25, the amateur service will be allocated the 219-220
MHz subband on a secondary basis. Additionally, the amateur service may
be permitted use of 220-222 MHz "in exceptional circumstances on a
secondary basis to assist in disaster relief efforts."

ARRL Chief Executive Officer David Sumner, K1ZZ, commented: "The US and
Canada generally coordinate their mobile allocations because of the
long border we share. The fact that it has taken Canada 15 years to get
around to implementing a mobile allocation at 220-222 MHz is indicative
of the fact that the reallocation that took effect in the US in 1991
has never lived up to the claims of its proponents."

In fact, the document that includes the proposed reallocation, Canada
Gazette Notice DGTP-004-05, Proposals and Changes to the Spectrum in
Certain Bands Below 1.7 GHz, cites the earlier US reallocation as part
of its justification for the change. Radio Amateurs of Canada opposed
the reallocation. Comments are due to Industry Canada by January 26.


[email protected] January 5th 06 12:57 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.


Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


[email protected] January 5th 06 01:35 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 4 Jan 2006 16:57:42 -0800, wrote:


wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.


Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


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an Old friend January 5th 06 02:34 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.


Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown, why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada."


simple becuase he is only a little better than steve


[email protected] January 5th 06 02:55 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.


Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown,


Brian,

I'm not a "clown".

What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for
attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?

why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada."


Because it's not relevant. Also not really true in many cases.

We lost 220-222 about 15 years ago. Hardly proof of your claim.

Canada has universal health care - USA doesn't. Canada dropped
mandatory code testing some time back but worked out an
ingenious compromise. USA can't seem to find a consensus out
of 18 proposals.

Canada doesn't just follow everyhting the USA does.


an_old_friend January 5th 06 03:00 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown,


Brian,

I'm not a "clown".


not in brains opinion and not in my own

What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for
attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?


nah it is your blah sey attitude about it

you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW
in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.


no you did not

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?


more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to asshole?
cut


[email protected] January 14th 06 01:19 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown,


Brian,

I'm not a "clown".


Fair enough. Yet you behave as a clown.

What's with the name-calling?


What's with the clown-like behavior?

Are you desperate for attention?


Are you desperate for a small win on RRAP?

Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?


Now there's a grand claim. The only thing you did was to clip my
statement that "as America goes, so goes Canada." We lost it for them.
Their government merely realigned their spectrum to match ours.

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.


"Significant and relevant" to whom?

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?


Herman says "use it or lose it" is hogwash. Talk to him about it.

why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada."


Because it's not relevant. Also not really true in many cases.


I think you're a closet Canadian.

We lost 220-222 about 15 years ago. Hardly proof of your claim.


Ahem. Look more closely at their new 220 band.

Compare and contrast it to the USA 220 plan.

Canada has universal health care - USA doesn't. Canada dropped
mandatory code testing some time back but worked out an
ingenious compromise. USA can't seem to find a consensus out
of 18 proposals.

Canada doesn't just follow everyhting the USA does.


Hmmm? You sure now a lot about Canada in general.

Now go back and look at Canada's new 220 ham band.


K4YZ January 14th 06 03:42 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.


Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown, why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada."


QUOTE:

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.


Brian P Burke, N0IMD, from another thread

UNQUOTE

Just a reminder, Brain, when you feel compelled to start calling
people dimuntives when they didn't call you a similar diminutive.

Steve, K4YZ

PS: It's "feuding"


[email protected] January 14th 06 06:12 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown, why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada."


QUOTE:

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.


Brian P Burke, N0IMD, from another thread

UNQUOTE

Just a reminder, Brain, when you feel compelled to start calling
people dimuntives when they didn't call you a similar diminutive.

Steve, K4YZ

PS: It's "feuding"


I've never called you "little." I have called you "Bozo" before, but I
was just being kind.


[email protected] January 14th 06 06:22 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?

Hey clown,


Brian,

I'm not a "clown".


not in brains opinion and not in my own


He is performing tricks.

What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for
attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?


nah it is your blah sey attitude about it

you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW
in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing


Apparently he doesn't value VHF.

He cuts my post, and in agreeing with me, he demands I answer questions
making it appear as if we have an argument. Hi!

Strange little clown tricks.

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.


no you did not


The facts:

1. Use it or lose it.

2. We lost it a long time ago.

3. Canada catches up and mimics our 220 allocations exactly.

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?


more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to asshole?
cut


Since 220 is not a worldwide allocation, Canada had no reason to
exactly mimic our plan.

That Jim sure is a smart feller.


[email protected] January 17th 06 11:50 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?

Hey clown,

Brian,

I'm not a "clown".


not in brains opinion and not in my own


He is performing tricks.

What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for
attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?


nah it is your blah sey attitude about it

you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW
in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing


Apparently he doesn't value VHF.

He cuts my post, and in agreeing with me, he demands I answer questions
making it appear as if we have an argument. Hi!

Strange little clown tricks.

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.


no you did not


The facts:

1. Use it or lose it.

2. We lost it a long time ago.

3. Canada catches up and mimics our 220 allocations exactly.

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?


more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to asshole?
cut


Since 220 is not a worldwide allocation, Canada had no reason to
exactly mimic our plan.

That Jim sure is a smart feller.



K4YZ January 17th 06 11:54 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:

I've never called you "little." I have called you "Bozo" before, but I
was just being kind.


No...you were being Lenniesque.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ January 17th 06 02:36 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?

Hey clown,


Brian,

I'm not a "clown".


not in brains opinion and not in my own


But considering who and what the two of you are, that doesn't lend
much credence to the act.

What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for
attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?


nah it is your blah sey attitude about it


Nice try, Markie. A dictionary would have been better, though.

you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW
in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing


No one said it was nothing, but these arguments about the
protection of our allocations have been going on for DECADES now yet
there is is relief.

The Spectrum Protection Act or some other legislation sounding
like it has been in committee ump-teen times now, Markie...How many
times have YOU written your representitives (in English) demanding that
they pass it?

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.


no you did not


Sure he did. That you don't understand them or can't read them is
not relevent.

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?


more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to ###hole?


What's "lectureing" about it, Markie...!??!

It's a stone-cold fact.

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ January 17th 06 02:49 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash.

Really?

How much is 220-222 used in Canada?

Will 222-225 be overcrowded because
of the loss of 220-222?

What justification can there be for hams having
5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz
aren't being fully utilized?


Hey clown,


Brian,

I'm not a "clown".

What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for
attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow
justified because I disproved your claim?


Considering who you were replying to, Jim, was this question
really necessary...!??!

I asked significant, relevant questions about the use
of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering
them - if you can.


Ooopss...Two disqualifiers there, Jim..."significant" and
"relevant".

In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide
exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it
enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to
services that *will* use it?


Makes sense. (Oooops...a third disqualifier...)

why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada."


Because it's not relevant. Also not really true in many cases.


Brain must have some of his bloodline north of the border...Or his
head south of his umbilicus....

We lost 220-222 about 15 years ago. Hardly proof of your claim.


It was on it's way out the door in the mid 70's when there was a
move against it for "Class E" CB. Other ideas won the day, but it was
hardly the "overwhelming response" from the Amateur community that was
ultimately responsible.

Canada has universal health care - USA doesn't.


The seams of that system are starting to let loose. The holes in
some of their "safety net" make the one's in ours look microscopic in
cases...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER.

Canada dropped
mandatory code testing some time back but worked out an
ingenious compromise. USA can't seem to find a consensus out
of 18 proposals.

Canada doesn't just follow everything the USA does.


But in this case, with 90% of it's industry and end-users of the
radio spectrum within a couple hours drive of a US border, it made
sense.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend January 17th 06 02:54 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.


If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need
all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz
from 221 too 222.

[email protected] January 17th 06 03:07 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.


If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need
all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz
from 221 too 222.


Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn.


an_old_friend January 17th 06 04:45 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:

steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting
On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.


If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need
all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz
from 221 too 222.


Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn.


I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and
queiter to operate

oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on
all day and still satnd the static but still make some contact even a
bit on 1.2 g

all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the
FCC


[email protected] January 17th 06 07:27 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:

steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting


If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.


On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.

If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need
all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz
from 221 too 222.


Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn.


I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and
queiter to operate


You mean more conducing for your jamming of 2 meters.

oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on
all day and still satnd the static


I'm sure the "static" soothes your mentally ill mind, Marky.

but still make some contact even a
bit on 1.2 g


Until they find out exactly whom they are talking with then you are
left talking to yourself.

all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the
FCC


Your stupidity is never ending, is it, Marky?


an_old_friend January 17th 06 07:48 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:

steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting


If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.

nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law


[email protected] January 17th 06 07:54 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 17 Jan 2006 03:54:04 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:

I've never called you "little." I have called you "Bozo" before, but I
was just being kind.


No...you were being Lenniesque.


nah you were just hijacking the thread which isSOP for you

Steve, K4YZ


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K4YZ January 18th 06 09:57 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.

If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need
all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz
from 221 too 222.


Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn.


I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and
queiter to operate


It's quieter for you because no one wants to talk to an idiot.

oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on
all day and still satnd the static but still make some contact even a
bit on 1.2 g


You're talking to someone on 1.2 grams?

all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the
FCC


I am wondering how it is you think the FCC has anything to do with
the propagation of the bands at all...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


[email protected] January 18th 06 04:47 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting


If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.

nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law


You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law"
yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to
comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you
post under.


[email protected] January 18th 06 04:49 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
On 17 Jan 2006 11:27:14 -0800, wrote:


all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the
FCC


Your stupidity is never ending, is it, Marky?


Soon FCC will make biger range legale and then wecan talk 400 or
500 miles with simple. You so stipid not to know it for yerself,
crotch rabbit.


And you would still lack the technical expertise to do anything but PTT
on 2 meters, to a repeater.


[email protected] January 18th 06 04:51 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for
the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces
"band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant
to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've
kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle.

If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need
all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz
from 221 too 222.

Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn.


I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and
queiter to operate


It's quieter for you because no one wants to talk to an idiot.

oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on
all day and still satnd the static but still make some contact even a
bit on 1.2 g


You're talking to someone on 1.2 grams?


Marky snorts cocaine!

all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the
FCC


I am wondering how it is you think the FCC has anything to do with
the propagation of the bands at all...?!?!


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!


[email protected] January 18th 06 06:02 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800, wrote:


raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting

If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.

nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law


You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law"
yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to
comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you
post under.


but I do

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Leo January 18th 06 10:53 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:

snip


...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER.


.....so are we!

73, Leo

[email protected] January 19th 06 02:04 AM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
From: Leo on Jan 18, 2:53 pm

On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:

snip
...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER.


....so are we!


Heh heh heh...I wish we (down here south of you) could say
the same. :-)

So...Leo, what's the word from Canadian amateur radio on
the IC reallocation of "220?"

[not that it matters directly to me, but such an actual
subject of discussion would be preferable to the sniping and
general name-calling on personalities in here...where
every day is Boxing Day...in the literal sense of the word]

By the way, a good example of "220" in operation is the
Condor Net covering most of the length of California and
reaching into states of Nevada and Arizona. Over two
decades of operation and begun before repeater micro-
processor control was the common thing in repeater control.




K4YZ January 19th 06 12:07 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:

Over two
decades of operation and begun before repeater micro-
processor control was the common thing in repeater control.


And in service all those years WITHOUT Lennie Anderson to tell
them how to do it...Who wudda thunk it...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


[email protected] January 19th 06 05:46 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 19 Jan 2006 04:07:37 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:

Over two
decades of operation and begun before repeater micro-
processor control was the common thing in repeater control.


And in service all those years WITHOUT Lennie Anderson to tell
them how to do it...Who wudda thunk it...?!?!


i guess steve just wanted to clear the deck to go back after Len

Steve, K4YZ


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Leo January 19th 06 10:30 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 18 Jan 2006 18:04:24 -0800, wrote:

From: Leo on Jan 18, 2:53 pm

On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:

snip
...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER.


....so are we!


Heh heh heh...I wish we (down here south of you) could say
the same. :-)

So...Leo, what's the word from Canadian amateur radio on
the IC reallocation of "220?"


I have not been a user of the 220 MHz band (hmmm - maybe that's part
of the problem!), and cannot add much to what the original ARRL
bulletin stated.

I do recall receiving warning bulletins from the RAC back in 2004
stating that the 220 - 222 MHz Amateur allocation was under review by
Industry Canada, and we would lose it if we were not sufficiently
active on it. Commercial interests (specifically for multi-use radios
(MURS), trunked mobile and fixed wireless access applications, medical
telemetry and utility telemetry applications) had petitioned for this
spectrum to be released to them.

In short - we did not sufficiently utilize this band - and lost it,
despite significant lobbying by RAC to hang on to it.

Goes to show ya that our Amateur frequency allocations are not crafted
in stone - they can be taken away if we cannot demonstrate that we are
actively using them!

[not that it matters directly to me, but such an actual
subject of discussion would be preferable to the sniping and
general name-calling on personalities in here...where
every day is Boxing Day...in the literal sense of the word]


Agreed!

hey..... I think I said that! That's my line!

Clear breach of copyright here - I'll sue you! :) :) :)


By the way, a good example of "220" in operation is the
Condor Net covering most of the length of California and
reaching into states of Nevada and Arizona. Over two
decades of operation and begun before repeater micro-
processor control was the common thing in repeater control.



73, Leo

[email protected] January 20th 06 10:57 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
From: Leo on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 5:30 pm

On 18 Jan 2006 18:04:24 -0800, wrote:
From: Leo on Jan 18, 2:53 pm
On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


So...Leo, what's the word from Canadian amateur radio on
the IC reallocation of "220?"


I have not been a user of the 220 MHz band (hmmm - maybe that's part
of the problem!), and cannot add much to what the original ARRL
bulletin stated.

I do recall receiving warning bulletins from the RAC back in 2004
stating that the 220 - 222 MHz Amateur allocation was under review by
Industry Canada, and we would lose it if we were not sufficiently
active on it. Commercial interests (specifically for multi-use radios
(MURS), trunked mobile and fixed wireless access applications, medical
telemetry and utility telemetry applications) had petitioned for this
spectrum to be released to them.

In short - we did not sufficiently utilize this band - and lost it,
despite significant lobbying by RAC to hang on to it.


On the other side of the coin, there were more non-amateur
radio users desiring VHF spectrum?

[I will ignore some readers who want to carp about "big
money interests" and other Bravo Sierra...]

Goes to show ya that our Amateur frequency allocations are not crafted
in stone - they can be taken away if we cannot demonstrate that we are
actively using them!


That's always the case. However, presenting a case is not always
done properly (or realistically). In the USA there was a petition
for the "60m band" for U.S. amteur use and the FCC granted only
a few CHANNELS in that region of HF. That was in spite of other
(non-amateur, non-broadcasting) users not using that part of the
HF spectrum often or heavily.


[not that it matters directly to me, but such an actual
subject of discussion would be preferable to the sniping and
general name-calling on personalities in here...where
every day is Boxing Day...in the literal sense of the word]


Agreed!

hey..... I think I said that! That's my line!

Clear breach of copyright here - I'll sue you! :) :) :)


Okay, agree to hold civil court procedings in Sioux City... :-)

By the way, a good example of "220" in operation is the
Condor Net covering most of the length of California and
reaching into states of Nevada and Arizona. Over two
decades of operation and begun before repeater micro-
processor control was the common thing in repeater control.


I forgot to include the URL for the Condor Net:

http://www.condor-connection.org

The Condor Net has been up for 28 years, is privately-owned and
run by amateurs, is open to anyone on 1 1/4 meters in the
California (Sacramento to San Diego), Arizona (Phoenix, Kingman),
Nevada, and parts of Utah near California. It was designed for
LONG-distance repeatering, entire Net control via PLCC tone
signalling and thus isn't a "local" repeater. I view it as an
excellent concept-AND-implementation and a true hobbyist good-
spirit endeavor (NO fees charged for participation).

I bring up the Condor Net because of the approximate equivalency
of populations between California and all of Canada and that the
Condor Net extends the linkage of VHF FM radios a very long way.
Obviously Canada has much more territory to cover, but Condor
extends over a 700 (give or take) range of geographic coverage.

From the "cool pictures" page on the condor-connection URL, it is
obvious that the owners-operators are getting a bit long in the
tooth. However, they all paid for the network out of their own
pockets, had to have the free money of their own to sink into
the concept, and have not asked for anything in return from any
user. Some of the repeater sites have changed ownership as
a few of the originals retired or moved. At close to three
decades of use it is still hanging in there and kept on the air.
I give them a lot of credit for doing so...in the true spirit
of fellowship to other amateur radio hobbyists.




[email protected] January 25th 06 06:02 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 
On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800, wrote:


raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting

If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.

nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law


You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law"
yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to
comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you
post under.


but I do

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[email protected] January 25th 06 09:24 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800,
wrote:


raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting

If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.
nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law


You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law"
yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to
comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you
post under.


but I do


Yes, you do suck dicks, Markie.


K4YZ January 26th 06 10:58 AM

More Markie Mularkie
 
wrote:

More Markie Mularkie.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend January 26th 06 03:09 PM

Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
 

wrote:
On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800,
wrote:


raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote:
steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting

If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your
posts, Marky.
nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law


You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law"
yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to
comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you
post under.


but I do

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[email protected] January 26th 06 04:00 PM

learn to spell steve
 
On 26 Jan 2006 02:58:52 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:

wrote:

More Markie Mularkie.

Steve, K4YZ

learn to spell steve
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[email protected] January 26th 06 04:37 PM

learn to spell steve
 
Oh, the irony!


an Old friend January 26th 06 08:48 PM

learn to spell steve
 

wrote:
Oh, the irony!


indeed it is ironic that steve the spelling cop can't spell


[email protected] January 27th 06 04:46 PM

What irony! Moronic Marky types: "learn to spell steve"
 

Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote:
wrote:
Oh, the irony!


indeed it is ironic that steve the spelling cop can't spell


No, **** for brains, it's ironic because YOU make the most spelling
errors of anybody who posts, you illiterate son of a bitch.


an old friend January 27th 06 05:08 PM

What irony! : "learn to spell steve"
 

wrote:

wrote:
Oh, the irony!


indeed it is ironic that steve the spelling cop can't spell


No, **** for brains, it's ironic because YOU make the most spelling
errors of anybody who posts, you illiterate son of a bitch.


wrong again The spelling cop that refuses to spell correctly is the
irony



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