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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. We lost it, and as America goes, so goes Canada. I'm sure the McKenzie brothers will be thanking us. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ARRL website: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz January 3, 2006 -- Barring an outpouring of "compelling arguments to the contrary," Industry Canada will reallocate the 220-222 MHz portion of 220-225 MHz from the Canadian amateur service to the mobile and fixed services. Under the provisional reallocation, which will take effect January 25, the amateur service will be allocated the 219-220 MHz subband on a secondary basis. Additionally, the amateur service may be permitted use of 220-222 MHz "in exceptional circumstances on a secondary basis to assist in disaster relief efforts." ARRL Chief Executive Officer David Sumner, K1ZZ, commented: "The US and Canada generally coordinate their mobile allocations because of the long border we share. The fact that it has taken Canada 15 years to get around to implementing a mobile allocation at 220-222 MHz is indicative of the fact that the reallocation that took effect in the US in 1991 has never lived up to the claims of its proponents." In fact, the document that includes the proposed reallocation, Canada Gazette Notice DGTP-004-05, Proposals and Changes to the Spectrum in Certain Bands Below 1.7 GHz, cites the earlier US reallocation as part of its justification for the change. Radio Amateurs of Canada opposed the reallocation. Comments are due to Industry Canada by January 26. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada." simple becuase he is only a little better than steve |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
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wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada." Because it's not relevant. Also not really true in many cases. We lost 220-222 about 15 years ago. Hardly proof of your claim. Canada has universal health care - USA doesn't. Canada dropped mandatory code testing some time back but worked out an ingenious compromise. USA can't seem to find a consensus out of 18 proposals. Canada doesn't just follow everyhting the USA does. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". not in brains opinion and not in my own What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? nah it is your blah sey attitude about it you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. no you did not In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to asshole? cut |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". Fair enough. Yet you behave as a clown. What's with the name-calling? What's with the clown-like behavior? Are you desperate for attention? Are you desperate for a small win on RRAP? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? Now there's a grand claim. The only thing you did was to clip my statement that "as America goes, so goes Canada." We lost it for them. Their government merely realigned their spectrum to match ours. I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. "Significant and relevant" to whom? In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? Herman says "use it or lose it" is hogwash. Talk to him about it. why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada." Because it's not relevant. Also not really true in many cases. I think you're a closet Canadian. We lost 220-222 about 15 years ago. Hardly proof of your claim. Ahem. Look more closely at their new 220 band. Compare and contrast it to the USA 220 plan. Canada has universal health care - USA doesn't. Canada dropped mandatory code testing some time back but worked out an ingenious compromise. USA can't seem to find a consensus out of 18 proposals. Canada doesn't just follow everyhting the USA does. Hmmm? You sure now a lot about Canada in general. Now go back and look at Canada's new 220 ham band. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada." QUOTE: Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot. Brian P Burke, N0IMD, from another thread UNQUOTE Just a reminder, Brain, when you feel compelled to start calling people dimuntives when they didn't call you a similar diminutive. Steve, K4YZ PS: It's "feuding" |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
K4YZ wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada." QUOTE: Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot. Brian P Burke, N0IMD, from another thread UNQUOTE Just a reminder, Brain, when you feel compelled to start calling people dimuntives when they didn't call you a similar diminutive. Steve, K4YZ PS: It's "feuding" I've never called you "little." I have called you "Bozo" before, but I was just being kind. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". not in brains opinion and not in my own He is performing tricks. What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? nah it is your blah sey attitude about it you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing Apparently he doesn't value VHF. He cuts my post, and in agreeing with me, he demands I answer questions making it appear as if we have an argument. Hi! Strange little clown tricks. I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. no you did not The facts: 1. Use it or lose it. 2. We lost it a long time ago. 3. Canada catches up and mimics our 220 allocations exactly. In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to asshole? cut Since 220 is not a worldwide allocation, Canada had no reason to exactly mimic our plan. That Jim sure is a smart feller. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". not in brains opinion and not in my own He is performing tricks. What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? nah it is your blah sey attitude about it you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing Apparently he doesn't value VHF. He cuts my post, and in agreeing with me, he demands I answer questions making it appear as if we have an argument. Hi! Strange little clown tricks. I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. no you did not The facts: 1. Use it or lose it. 2. We lost it a long time ago. 3. Canada catches up and mimics our 220 allocations exactly. In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to asshole? cut Since 220 is not a worldwide allocation, Canada had no reason to exactly mimic our plan. That Jim sure is a smart feller. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". not in brains opinion and not in my own But considering who and what the two of you are, that doesn't lend much credence to the act. What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? nah it is your blah sey attitude about it Nice try, Markie. A dictionary would have been better, though. you get into a lather at suggesting you neeed what you see as your BW in HF but you blithely talk about giving away VHF as if it wee nothing No one said it was nothing, but these arguments about the protection of our allocations have been going on for DECADES now yet there is is relief. The Spectrum Protection Act or some other legislation sounding like it has been in committee ump-teen times now, Markie...How many times have YOU written your representitives (in English) demanding that they pass it? I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. no you did not Sure he did. That you don't understand them or can't read them is not relevent. In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? more of your lectureing attitute try to hope from clown to ###hole? What's "lectureing" about it, Markie...!??! It's a stone-cold fact. The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces "band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle. Steve, K4YZ |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Jeff Hermann say use it or lose it is hogwash. Really? How much is 220-222 used in Canada? Will 222-225 be overcrowded because of the loss of 220-222? What justification can there be for hams having 5 MHz of prime VHF spectrum if those 5 MHz aren't being fully utilized? Hey clown, Brian, I'm not a "clown". What's with the name-calling? Are you desperate for attention? Or do you think such behavior is somehow justified because I disproved your claim? Considering who you were replying to, Jim, was this question really necessary...!??! I asked significant, relevant questions about the use of 220-222 MHz by Canadian hams. Try answering them - if you can. Ooopss...Two disqualifiers there, Jim..."significant" and "relevant". In case you didn't know, 220-225 is not worldwide exclusive amateur territory. If hams don't use it enough, why shouldn't it be reassigned to services that *will* use it? Makes sense. (Oooops...a third disqualifier...) why did you cut this: "and as America goes, so goes Canada." Because it's not relevant. Also not really true in many cases. Brain must have some of his bloodline north of the border...Or his head south of his umbilicus.... We lost 220-222 about 15 years ago. Hardly proof of your claim. It was on it's way out the door in the mid 70's when there was a move against it for "Class E" CB. Other ideas won the day, but it was hardly the "overwhelming response" from the Amateur community that was ultimately responsible. Canada has universal health care - USA doesn't. The seams of that system are starting to let loose. The holes in some of their "safety net" make the one's in ours look microscopic in cases...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER. Canada dropped mandatory code testing some time back but worked out an ingenious compromise. USA can't seem to find a consensus out of 18 proposals. Canada doesn't just follow everything the USA does. But in this case, with 90% of it's industry and end-users of the radio spectrum within a couple hours drive of a US border, it made sense. Steve, K4YZ |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote: The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces "band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle. If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz from 221 too 222. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote: The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces "band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle. If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz from 221 too 222. Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your posts, Marky. On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote: The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces "band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle. If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz from 221 too 222. Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn. I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and queiter to operate You mean more conducing for your jamming of 2 meters. oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on all day and still satnd the static I'm sure the "static" soothes your mentally ill mind, Marky. but still make some contact even a bit on 1.2 g Until they find out exactly whom they are talking with then you are left talking to yourself. all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the FCC Your stupidity is never ending, is it, Marky? |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 17 Jan 2006 03:54:04 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: I've never called you "little." I have called you "Bozo" before, but I was just being kind. No...you were being Lenniesque. nah you were just hijacking the thread which isSOP for you Steve, K4YZ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
an_old_friend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote: The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces "band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle. If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz from 221 too 222. Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn. I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and queiter to operate It's quieter for you because no one wants to talk to an idiot. oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on all day and still satnd the static but still make some contact even a bit on 1.2 g You're talking to someone on 1.2 grams? all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the FCC I am wondering how it is you think the FCC has anything to do with the propagation of the bands at all...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your posts, Marky. nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law" yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you post under. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: On 17 Jan 2006 11:27:14 -0800, wrote: all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the FCC Your stupidity is never ending, is it, Marky? Soon FCC will make biger range legale and then wecan talk 400 or 500 miles with simple. You so stipid not to know it for yerself, crotch rabbit. And you would still lack the technical expertise to do anything but PTT on 2 meters, to a repeater. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: On 17 Jan 2006 06:36:01 -0800, K4YZ wrote: The 220-225Mhz band wound up in North American Amateur's hands for the most part as a buffer between commercial users and the Armed Forces "band" from 225Mhz to 400Mhz (among other reasons). It was never meant to be an unrevokable allocation...(Not that any are...) That we've kept it this long has been nothing short of a miracle. If they loes it we shoud give them half of oeurs becaues we don't need all that much and we are theyr friends. I say give them a megahurtz from 221 too 222. Marky, you can't even operate 2 meters worth a darn. I do ok I am getting to like 2m SSB more consitant than 6m SSB and queiter to operate It's quieter for you because no one wants to talk to an idiot. oTOH 222 is even quieter but few people on and 440 sssb i can leave on all day and still satnd the static but still make some contact even a bit on 1.2 g You're talking to someone on 1.2 grams? Marky snorts cocaine! all nice bands the range kida suck but range is being worked on by the FCC I am wondering how it is you think the FCC has anything to do with the propagation of the bands at all...?!?! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800, wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your posts, Marky. nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law" yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you post under. but I do _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
snip ...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER. .....so are we! 73, Leo |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
From: Leo on Jan 18, 2:53 pm
On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: snip ...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER. ....so are we! Heh heh heh...I wish we (down here south of you) could say the same. :-) So...Leo, what's the word from Canadian amateur radio on the IC reallocation of "220?" [not that it matters directly to me, but such an actual subject of discussion would be preferable to the sniping and general name-calling on personalities in here...where every day is Boxing Day...in the literal sense of the word] By the way, a good example of "220" in operation is the Condor Net covering most of the length of California and reaching into states of Nevada and Arizona. Over two decades of operation and begun before repeater micro- processor control was the common thing in repeater control. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 19 Jan 2006 04:07:37 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: Over two decades of operation and begun before repeater micro- processor control was the common thing in repeater control. And in service all those years WITHOUT Lennie Anderson to tell them how to do it...Who wudda thunk it...?!?! i guess steve just wanted to clear the deck to go back after Len Steve, K4YZ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 18 Jan 2006 18:04:24 -0800, wrote:
From: Leo on Jan 18, 2:53 pm On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: snip ...At the end of the day, I am glad I work in a US ER. ....so are we! Heh heh heh...I wish we (down here south of you) could say the same. :-) So...Leo, what's the word from Canadian amateur radio on the IC reallocation of "220?" I have not been a user of the 220 MHz band (hmmm - maybe that's part of the problem!), and cannot add much to what the original ARRL bulletin stated. I do recall receiving warning bulletins from the RAC back in 2004 stating that the 220 - 222 MHz Amateur allocation was under review by Industry Canada, and we would lose it if we were not sufficiently active on it. Commercial interests (specifically for multi-use radios (MURS), trunked mobile and fixed wireless access applications, medical telemetry and utility telemetry applications) had petitioned for this spectrum to be released to them. In short - we did not sufficiently utilize this band - and lost it, despite significant lobbying by RAC to hang on to it. Goes to show ya that our Amateur frequency allocations are not crafted in stone - they can be taken away if we cannot demonstrate that we are actively using them! [not that it matters directly to me, but such an actual subject of discussion would be preferable to the sniping and general name-calling on personalities in here...where every day is Boxing Day...in the literal sense of the word] Agreed! hey..... I think I said that! That's my line! Clear breach of copyright here - I'll sue you! :) :) :) By the way, a good example of "220" in operation is the Condor Net covering most of the length of California and reaching into states of Nevada and Arizona. Over two decades of operation and begun before repeater micro- processor control was the common thing in repeater control. 73, Leo |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
From: Leo on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 5:30 pm
On 18 Jan 2006 18:04:24 -0800, wrote: From: Leo on Jan 18, 2:53 pm On 17 Jan 2006 06:49:27 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: So...Leo, what's the word from Canadian amateur radio on the IC reallocation of "220?" I have not been a user of the 220 MHz band (hmmm - maybe that's part of the problem!), and cannot add much to what the original ARRL bulletin stated. I do recall receiving warning bulletins from the RAC back in 2004 stating that the 220 - 222 MHz Amateur allocation was under review by Industry Canada, and we would lose it if we were not sufficiently active on it. Commercial interests (specifically for multi-use radios (MURS), trunked mobile and fixed wireless access applications, medical telemetry and utility telemetry applications) had petitioned for this spectrum to be released to them. In short - we did not sufficiently utilize this band - and lost it, despite significant lobbying by RAC to hang on to it. On the other side of the coin, there were more non-amateur radio users desiring VHF spectrum? [I will ignore some readers who want to carp about "big money interests" and other Bravo Sierra...] Goes to show ya that our Amateur frequency allocations are not crafted in stone - they can be taken away if we cannot demonstrate that we are actively using them! That's always the case. However, presenting a case is not always done properly (or realistically). In the USA there was a petition for the "60m band" for U.S. amteur use and the FCC granted only a few CHANNELS in that region of HF. That was in spite of other (non-amateur, non-broadcasting) users not using that part of the HF spectrum often or heavily. [not that it matters directly to me, but such an actual subject of discussion would be preferable to the sniping and general name-calling on personalities in here...where every day is Boxing Day...in the literal sense of the word] Agreed! hey..... I think I said that! That's my line! Clear breach of copyright here - I'll sue you! :) :) :) Okay, agree to hold civil court procedings in Sioux City... :-) By the way, a good example of "220" in operation is the Condor Net covering most of the length of California and reaching into states of Nevada and Arizona. Over two decades of operation and begun before repeater micro- processor control was the common thing in repeater control. I forgot to include the URL for the Condor Net: http://www.condor-connection.org The Condor Net has been up for 28 years, is privately-owned and run by amateurs, is open to anyone on 1 1/4 meters in the California (Sacramento to San Diego), Arizona (Phoenix, Kingman), Nevada, and parts of Utah near California. It was designed for LONG-distance repeatering, entire Net control via PLCC tone signalling and thus isn't a "local" repeater. I view it as an excellent concept-AND-implementation and a true hobbyist good- spirit endeavor (NO fees charged for participation). I bring up the Condor Net because of the approximate equivalency of populations between California and all of Canada and that the Condor Net extends the linkage of VHF FM radios a very long way. Obviously Canada has much more territory to cover, but Condor extends over a 700 (give or take) range of geographic coverage. From the "cool pictures" page on the condor-connection URL, it is obvious that the owners-operators are getting a bit long in the tooth. However, they all paid for the network out of their own pockets, had to have the free money of their own to sink into the concept, and have not asked for anything in return from any user. Some of the repeater sites have changed ownership as a few of the originals retired or moved. At close to three decades of use it is still hanging in there and kept on the air. I give them a lot of credit for doing so...in the true spirit of fellowship to other amateur radio hobbyists. |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800, wrote:
raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your posts, Marky. nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law" yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you post under. but I do _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800, wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your posts, Marky. nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law" yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you post under. but I do Yes, you do suck dicks, Markie. |
More Markie Mularkie
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Policy Issue: Canadian Amateurs to Lose 220-222 MHz
wrote: On 18 Jan 2006 08:47:54 -0800, wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: wrote: raped_an_old_underaged_boyfriend wrote: steve comited a crimnal act (anying posting If that is so, then you should get a life sentence for all of your posts, Marky. nope since I sign my posts I am not in violation fo the law You never sign your posts, dumbass. You are in violation of the "law" yourself. You would have to have signed it, Mark C. Morgan in order to comply, but you won't do that under this or any of the other names you post under. but I do _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
learn to spell steve
On 26 Jan 2006 02:58:52 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: More Markie Mularkie. Steve, K4YZ learn to spell steve _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
learn to spell steve
Oh, the irony!
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learn to spell steve
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What irony! Moronic Marky types: "learn to spell steve"
Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: wrote: Oh, the irony! indeed it is ironic that steve the spelling cop can't spell No, **** for brains, it's ironic because YOU make the most spelling errors of anybody who posts, you illiterate son of a bitch. |
What irony! : "learn to spell steve"
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