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an old friend January 29th 06 08:11 AM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 

Gonzo wrote:
nope I was curious something you discourage


Uhhhhhhhhhhh.....The whole THREAD was about being "curious",
Markie.

Thanks for once again demonstrating your ignorance on such a grand
scale.

Steve, K4YZ

.........

Mark does demonstrate a certain amount of ignorance.

where? by simply not agreeing with you

the email you choose for this Gonzo is right on the mark though trash
talker

This is cureable,
though the enormous extent of Mark's immense stupidity will be forever so.


nothing but trash talk in your short career


K4YZ January 29th 06 10:01 AM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 
wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 22:03:17 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 20:20:09 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Greetings All,

Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater?
yes

Have any of you made contacts through it, or directly with NA1SS?
yes

Do any of you use NASA's
www.science.nasa.gov site to determine the
footprint?
no

now thatI have answer 3 of yours ahow about one of mine

what has the ISS to do with Policy issues?

It has to do with "policy" issues if it means getting RRAP'ers to
talk on the same frequency at the same time.

thin at best esp as I would not choose to be to be on the same freq as
you on any band at any time


Too bad for you then, Markie.


you must be delsuional to think I would want to talk to you, bad
enough dealing with you on RRap


I seriously doubt we'd ever be able to carry on a QSO regardless,
Markie...

I speak English fluently and some conversational German and
Spanish.

You speak jibberish.

Your "writing" on RRAP, where you have the opportunity to
proofread your content before sending it, is horriffic. I can only
imagine what it would be like on any of the realtime keyboard modes.

You're devoid of CW skill.

Therefore it's a foregone conclusion that we'll ever have a "QSO"
on the Amateur Bands in ANY mode, let alone via the ISS crossband
repeater.

but you avoid the issue of course


Acutally, Markie, YOU are the one on a divergent topic. I was
talking about ISS on Amateur Radio.

You pulled it into yet another trash thread as evidenced by your
retasking of the subject line to something other than the original
topic.

anything?

What does your question have to do with the first three?

why did it have to?


It didn't


then why did you ask that question


I don't believe that it's any of your business, Markie.

. But then THERE is where the "attack" you suggest comes
from...YOU!


no attack existed except in the mind of the oaranoid and micron thin
skin felow I am repling too


You're repling too? Did you repling also? What's
"repling"...?!?!

"oaranoid?"

Someone who doesn't like using manual propulsion in a bass boat?

indeed you are the most paranoid fellow I have ever seen


Perhaps. But your a perverted liar.

Between the two, I'll take paranoia.

any question is an attack


More random words in search of order, Markie. Try again.

but I questioned as s my rightthe relavance of the post

It's not your's to question.


yes it my place or anyone else that chooses


Not unless you care to state now for the record that you have
assumed moderatorship for RRAP, Markie.

Unless, of course, I missed the part
where a "moderator" was established for the NG?


I and anyone may question why something is posted


You may "question" anything you want.

However you're not entitled to an answer, mandatory or otherwise.

Anything?
everything
Or just can't stand seeing me talk about something OTHER
than you, eh?

nope I was curious something you discourage


Uhhhhhhhhhhh.....The whole THREAD was about being "curious",
Markie.


another the thread was about you indulging yours, no one is ever
allowed to be curious as you replies prove


E N G L I S H, Markie...

Thanks for once again demonstrating your ignorance on such a grand
scale.


what ignorance?


Yours.

In spades.

I certainly know what you up to


No you don't.

more diversion from your misdeeds


The diversion here is yours, Your Punkiness. I asked a legitimate
question about an Amateur Radio related event.

You pulled it into yet another slimefest in only 1 set of
exchanges.

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL January 29th 06 02:43 PM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 
I don't use aioe.org, nice try.....go back NIM BUSTERS with all the
other fascist scumbags on there!

Todd N9OGL
N.I.M. BUSTERS SUCKS!!!!!
http://12.156.123.39/nimsucks/index.php


[email protected] January 29th 06 03:54 PM

contiuing attacks from steve but he complets a cucle proving him a liar
 
On 29 Jan 2006 02:01:33 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:

wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 22:03:17 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 20:20:09 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Greetings All,

Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater?
yes

Have any of you made contacts through it, or directly with NA1SS?
yes

Do any of you use NASA's www.science.nasa.gov site to determine the
footprint?
no

now thatI have answer 3 of yours ahow about one of mine

what has the ISS to do with Policy issues?

It has to do with "policy" issues if it means getting RRAP'ers to
talk on the same frequency at the same time.

thin at best esp as I would not choose to be to be on the same freq as
you on any band at any time

Too bad for you then, Markie.


you must be delsuional to think I would want to talk to you, bad
enough dealing with you on RRap


I seriously doubt we'd ever be able to carry on a QSO regardless,
Markie...


avoiding the issue I see

I speak English fluently and some conversational German and
Spanish.

You speak jibberish.


you know this How?

as far as I know you have never heard me speak


Your "writing" on RRAP, where you have the opportunity to
proofread your content before sending it, is horriffic.

so?

what has this got to do with my speaking?
I can only
imagine what it would be like on any of the realtime keyboard modes.


gee nobody has any real problem figuring out what i mean

You're devoid of CW skill.


this says somethign abotu my speaking abilty

I wish you had made this post when Cw testing was still the issue

Therefore it's a foregone conclusion that we'll ever have a "QSO"
on the Amateur Bands in ANY mode, let alone via the ISS crossband
repeater.


it is foregone becuase I would hear your call and brak off the contact

but you avoid the issue of course


Acutally, Markie, YOU are the one on a divergent topic. I was
talking about ISS on Amateur Radio.


you tuerned it into another antimark attack thread becuase I dared ask
what the ISS ars system had to do with RRAP

You pulled it into yet another trash thread as evidenced by your
retasking of the subject line to something other than the original
topic.


no I simply retetled the thread to reflect what you turned it into

anything?

What does your question have to do with the first three?

why did it have to?

It didn't


then why did you ask that question


I don't believe that it's any of your business, Markie.


i disgree it became my busness when you choose to turn this into
another antimark attack thread


. But then THERE is where the "attack" you suggest comes
from...YOU!


no attack existed except in the mind of the oaranoid and micron thin
skin felow I am repling too


You're repling too? Did you repling also? What's
"repling"...?!?!

"oaranoid?"

Someone who doesn't like using manual propulsion in a bass boat?

indeed you are the most paranoid fellow I have ever seen


Perhaps.


But your a perverted liar.

Between the two, I'll take paranoia.

any question is an attack


More random words in search of order, Markie. Try again.

but I questioned as s my rightthe relavance of the post

It's not your's to question.


yes it my place or anyone else that chooses


Not unless you care to state now for the record that you have
assumed moderatorship for RRAP, Markie.


again you deny that I have the same rights you do Robeson

i don't have to be the moderator to ask a question or comment on a
post you or anybody else makes on RRAP

Unless, of course, I missed the part
where a "moderator" was established for the NG?


I and anyone may question why something is posted


You may "question" anything you want.


then you lied a few line up you sted " Not unless you care to state
now for the record that you have assumed moderatorship for RRAP,
Markie." in response to "yes it my place or anyone else that chooses"
which was my response to"It's not your's to question."

indeed you just made the stament "It's not your's to question." a lie
unles you were lying just now when you typed "You may "question"
anything you want."

you have said in one thread that I am allowed to A and not allowed A
which ever stament is not true one of them is a lie and therfore you
are a Liar

However you're not entitled to an answer, mandatory or otherwise.


I never said I was

you OTOH have insited that you are entitled to answer

and therfore I belocome etitled to answer from YOU or to call you on
it when you refuse to meet your won standard

Anything?
everything
Or just can't stand seeing me talk about something OTHER
than you, eh?

nope I was curious something you discourage

Uhhhhhhhhhhh.....The whole THREAD was about being "curious",
Markie.


another the thread was about you indulging yours, no one is ever
allowed to be curious as you replies prove


E N G L I S H, Markie...


it is

Thanks for once again demonstrating your ignorance on such a grand
scale.


what ignorance?


Yours.

In spades.

I certainly know what you up to


No you don't.


sure do it is obvious

more diversion from your misdeeds


The diversion here is yours, Your Punkiness.

more name calling
I asked a legitimate
question about an Amateur Radio related event.


and I asked what it had to do with policy

You pulled it into yet another slimefest in only 1 set of
exchanges.


and therfore you claim despite saying I may ask question that I may
not ask any

Steve, K4YZ


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Larry January 29th 06 06:54 PM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 
On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

Larry wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Greetings All,

Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater?


Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater.


Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output
is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means.


Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband
capability to use the ISS repeater.

I've worked MIR twice on that pair and had a blast.

I guess it's easy to "not like" if you don't have the requisite
skills or capable staion to do it with.


I made contacts through AMSAT way back in the early 70's when the
OSCAR series of the 60's was being continued. It boiled down to being
a novelty activity for hams, but one which only imitated what
communications engineers and other professionals had pioneered long
before hams used a satellite. In fact, most OSCAR satellites were
stuffed into the unused space in government launch vehicles and were
essentially CARE packages from those who were doing the real
pioneering work.

Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable.


Perhaps it is. And if that's what spins your propeller, mor power
to you. But making a "contact" via Echolink is no more challenging
that turning the light on when you enter a room.


I see. And I suppose that, when you decide to cross a river, you
eschew the nearby bridges in favor of swimming across instead. Do you
also use a horse instead of choosing to own a car?

Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode.
However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no
skill in that.


Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real
skill in that either.

But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and
compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol
(UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish
that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it.
In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and
developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members
of the amateur community.

If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in
my estimation.

an Old friend January 29th 06 06:58 PM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 

Larry wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

Larry wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Greetings All,

Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater?

Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater.


Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output
is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means.


Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband
capability to use the ISS repeater.


indeed you don't and trying to use crossband capcity can in fact be
harder than using 2 monoband radios

I've worked MIR twice on that pair and had a blast.

I guess it's easy to "not like" if you don't have the requisite
skills or capable staion to do it with.


I made contacts through AMSAT way back in the early 70's when the
OSCAR series of the 60's was being continued. It boiled down to being
a novelty activity for hams, but one which only imitated what
communications engineers and other professionals had pioneered long
before hams used a satellite. In fact, most OSCAR satellites were
stuffed into the unused space in government launch vehicles and were
essentially CARE packages from those who were doing the real
pioneering work.

Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable.


Perhaps it is. And if that's what spins your propeller, mor power
to you. But making a "contact" via Echolink is no more challenging
that turning the light on when you enter a room.


I see.

bear in mind Steve one of the folks claiming how awful it will to end
CW testing

Steve is of the S&M school of licensing claiming we must suffer to get
our licenses

And I suppose that, when you decide to cross a river, you
eschew the nearby bridges in favor of swimming across instead. Do you
also use a horse instead of choosing to own a car?

Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode.
However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no
skill in that.


Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real
skill in that either.

But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and
compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol
(UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish
that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it.
In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and
developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members
of the amateur community.


he is not into tehinal skil instead on AIR S&M


If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in
my estimation.



N9OGL January 29th 06 09:01 PM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 
My opinion is machine is illegal becaues it not in US territory when
retransmit. Use it and you just the same as using pirate offshore
station and FCC should fine you. But FCC owned by pepole like Don
Clancy and so look other way. That why I hate FCC so come my blog
to see more.


Not true, the station is in fact very LEGAL, I've use to work space
station MIR on a handheld on 2 meters both voice and packet, I've also
worked oscar 10 which was 10 meters up, 2 meters down or the other way
around I forget it was long ago.

Todd N9OGL


[email protected] January 29th 06 09:45 PM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 
On 29 Jan 2006 13:01:22 -0800, "N9OGL" wrote:

My opinion is machine is illegal becaues it not in US territory when
retransmit. Use it and you just the same as using pirate offshore
station and FCC should fine you. But FCC owned by pepole like Don
Clancy and so look other way. That why I hate FCC so come my blog
to see more.


Not true, the station is in fact very LEGAL, I've use to work space
station MIR on a handheld on 2 meters both voice and packet, I've also
worked oscar 10 which was 10 meters up, 2 meters down or the other way
around I forget it was long ago.

2 up 10 down tood tech like me could use the mode


Todd N9OGL


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NO9GL January 29th 06 10:16 PM

Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
 

On 29 Jan 2006 13:01:22 -0800, N9OGL wrote:
My opinion is machine is illegal becaues it not in US territory when
retransmit. Use it and you just the same as using pirate offshore
station and FCC should fine you. But FCC owned by pepole like Don
Clancy and so look other way. That why I hate FCC so come my blog
to see more.


Not true, the station is in fact very LEGAL, I've use to work space
station MIR on a handheld on 2 meters both voice and packet, I've also
worked oscar 10 which was 10 meters up, 2 meters down or the other way
around I forget it was long ago.


Very bad. You talking non-free world station with Russian call who
not even in teritory so you violate presidental order big time.
Better hope Bush and NSA not read you post or you will get in hot
water. FCC has list of contries can not work legally and you
violeated it most likely.

an Old friend January 29th 06 10:31 PM

no mere foregry but stupid foorgery
 

NO9GL wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006 13:01:22 -0800, N9OGL wrote:


Not true, the station is in fact very LEGAL, I've use to work space
station MIR on a handheld on 2 meters both voice and packet, I've also
worked oscar 10 which was 10 meters up, 2 meters down or the other way
around I forget it was long ago.


Very bad. You talking non-free world station with Russian call who
not even in teritory so you violate presidental order big time.
Better hope Bush and NSA not read you post or you will get in hot
water. FCC has list of contries can not work legally and you
violeated it most likely.


title says it all



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