K4YZ wrote:
an_old_liar wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an old fiend to all a nightmare to stev wrote:

Your choice of "nics" alone establishes your intent and stalking,
Morkie.

Thanks!

hardly just staing the facts

Not "hardly".

The truth.

You establish your intent.

no I state the truth I am the substance of your nightmares, being a
well adjusted Bisexaul is something that clearly you jst can't stand
and are even admit to admit that


another lie

I am sure you think so. People with an IQ over 7 think otherwise.

steve you continue to evade the question I am sure anyone bothering to
read the exchance (except prehaps wismen) realizes that yI have done
nodifferent than you efforts to take matters off line we shall see if
what sucess they have

And I ask YOU again...What do you think they can do?

they likely could something and indeed they have not much maybe i will
better luck with the next agency I turn to for help dealing with you

how so?

and I have NO problem with those agencies

Sure you do.

nope none at all

Yep.
none face it steve you complaint to Houghton couny resulting in a
deputy droping and asking me what was up with you that is all

you contacting the FIA resulted in them asking just child children you
were accusing me of abusing


how is it different than my contacting CAP

Those agencies are social services agencies.

nope the houghton county shiff is Law enforment

What's a "shiff"...?!?!

CAP is not.

so?

So you opened a can of worms that YOU are going to have to eat,
Mork.
steve in the order I have read these you have already admitted they can
do nothing to me

Your contacting CAP about a non-CAP event will be a problem for
you.

no it will not you are deluded if you think that

Nope.
yep deluded they are powerless against me
you agreed with that steve


all my contact with CAP clearly refering the fact that your action are
online outside of CAP and in any event what can CAP do to me?

It's not what CAP can do.
oh realy?

It's what I can do now that you have done this thing.

you could try and file suit but you have gone down that route before

we all know that you promised before

(You just don't know WHEN to leave well enoguh alone, do
you...?!?!)

what well enough alone?

you have no legal case against me

You've filed a complaint to a federal agency without that agency
being involved.

not yet even if you turn out to be correct

I AM correct, Mork.
indeed based on the email I just rereceived (read less than anhour ago)
you may be correct on that count

I have inquired if the actions I described werewithin the perview of
CAP the IG said yes and has reffered me to your Wing comander. even if
I should turn out to be mistaken then this is no problem

Then the IG officer you spoke with didn't know his butt from a
hole in the ground.

take it up with him not me


THAT is fraud.

no fraud was comitted, an erro possibly but with the way you are
blustering I don't think so

Fraud, Morkie.
nope not even close

top porve faud you would have to prove I knew it would be ineffective
and choose to do it anyway


You have filed a complaint that insinuates that I have done
something improper in as a member of the organization.

nope I stated very directly that you have done improper things and I
asked if the CAP had the means to redress them

I have not.
that is your opinion even Col Rushing's it is not mine


Your "complaint" is a harrassing act.

and your contacting Houghton county wasn't right stev you are always
claiming that you may attack anyone in any fashion you like and no one
can try to seek justice in reuturn


CAP was never involved in any of out other tit-for-tats.

so?

So you now have a problem of your own making.

I have no problem, nothing wrong with my contacting CAP and asking if
such behavoir as your is withiin there perview

It's not, and you have a problem.
only that you will continue your effort at libel most likely steve and
I can deal with that


You've still not answered what CAP regulations have allegedly been
violated.

the UCMJ I am sorry I thought you were bright enough to know that

THE UCMJ...?!?!

yes

Idiot!
nah just desperate enough to look for aid agianst your effort to libel
me


Fess up to what?

your lies

You keep repeating "your lies" but you've not proven anything I've
said to be untrue.

but I have steve I have

besides you have admitted to it in some cases


so why are being so defensive if I am just blowing smoke?

I'm not being defensivve, Morkie!

lying again

the detail of the regs of CAP are not my affiar

Then you have yet AGAIN demonstrated that your intent was purely
harrassing, since there is NO evidence of ANY CAP regulation being
violated.

no I haven't I de,motratred that I hoped that CAP was Professional
enough to apply professional stanards to thier officers

If they did they would have taken action against you

they did not, proving that CAP is a pretty unprofessional gruop
something I will point out to others should occasion arise


no doubt he will wonder why you are defending youself already

"Defending"...?!?!?

Hardly!

What's to defend, Mork?
your libel

a professional officer is not allowed to libel people
a ggrab ass collection of clowns is

we now know which the CAP is



but plenty about your presenting yourself as a CAP officer to the HAM
world

I am a colonel for the sate of Kentucky you simplychoose to over looks
the possiblity i wasn't saying what you thought

No, you are NOT a "Colonel" for the State of Kentucky.
prove it steve

You are not a Colonel in the Armed Forces.
right

You'll NEVER be a Colonel in the Civil Air Patrol...

np I don't to be

indeed any gruop that would tolerate your behavoir is not one i would
care to jion, at any level


But you're right about one thing...CAP has no "hold" on you.
nice of you to admit that

But by the same token their only "hold" on me is to comply with
CAP regulations when on CAP duties. So far you've scored a big fat
goose egg trying this tact.

have I realy?

frankly i am not so sureyou may be right but I have a hunch you aren't

What role model did YOU establish...?!?!

that I will in fact lie when threatened with murder I establish I am a
wise ans predent fellow

You were never threatened with murder...at least not by me.

yes I was by you

you establish most likely that you are a mad man

Oh?
yes I expect that this affair has made you look less than rational at
least if your posts to RRAP are any guide to what you typed at Col
Rushing

and you claim that you forwarded Mark Morgan caught on tape to him I am
sure that did not improve his opinion of you as a man

YOU are the one with an established mental health history
contiuing your efforts at libel will not help you steve

esp if you did carry through on this latest impleid threat to sue me

something I would almost welcome at least it would get me a clear shot
at dstoping your campaign of libel


nope

you just lied again

No, I've not.

yes you

Anyone who went through ANY of the service's basic training
programs knows WHAT the UCMJ is and to whom it applies.
steve Army basic does not deal with CAP I am sure the CAP was never
mention in my basic or advanced training steve

Obvioulsy you don't.
obvious the army did not see fit to tell about CAP

shows you what they thinks of CAP


You O B V I O U S L Y do NOT have a SINGLE CLUE as to what the
UCMJ is or whom it applies to!

I know what it is wether it does aply to you I am not sure but I
suspect that it does in the sense you have to uphold the standards of
an officer in order to keep the rank of one even in CAP
wether this applies to a micky mouse outfit like CAP{ No I don't know
The arm takes such matters more seriously

I'll let them know you think CAP is "micky mouse".

go ahead

do you realy imagine I am afraid of CAP?

and add for me thatI think they are doing a diservice to the real armed
forces by using trank like them but not holding thier "officers" to
teven the stanards aplied to resvists inthe REAL armed forces

the only good thing I can say for your Co i he had the good grace to
apologize for being unable to help me



Stev i have never threatened your murder, you have threatened mine

No, I've not.

yes you have

Nope.

I've passed that very post in front of my own local Sheriff (with
whom I am personally acquainted) and two police officers...And I mean
the ENTIRE post...Not just the parts YOU cull and try to make your
whole arguments from.

No threat exists.

And Mork...I've got a copy of your unambiguous death threat in
hand.

nope for I have made no such threat

Yes, you did.

nope

again to help you I have said and I maintian that if you come here one
of us is likely to end up dead, that is analys

No, you made a threat of deadly force where no imminent threat
existed.
nope I did not

but feel free to report it as uch esp to the feds

That's against the law...Federal and Michigan.

No matter how many times you say otherwise, the lawbooks say
differently.
funny then why I am not under arest?

Houghton county did not buy it they only asked if I could do something
to keep you out of thier hair

I'm not "in their hair".
they seemd to think so


You better guess again!

no need

you have nothing on me.

i know it

that you don't shows you are stupid

Sorry again, Mork.

You've left reams and reams of assinine posts here, and I have a
great deal of them on readily available CD's. Anyone interested is
free to access Google archives to see the rest.

perhaps assine posts that is of course a matter of opinion

That YOU think no one but you can see them proves who's stupid
here.

steve I am walking around having never been arested dispite your claim
that I have been reported to my local sheriff for making an ilegal
death threat

I have never threatened to show up at your home you have done so to me

I have never lied about your wifes gender, etc

Until you provide some evidence to the contrary, Mork, nothing
I've said is untrue.

bull**** steve

Truth, Morkie.

nope you are lying

my wifes gender does not change to male because I refuse to prove to
you she is female

YOU stated you sleep with men.
if I stated that I have had sex with sheep does hta make a sheep? ( and
whcih gender of sheep


That I have at times sex with men does not make her male

I didn't make that up.

it is just irelavant

she is female, wether I porve it or not

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure she is, Mork.

she is wether you belive it or not

your belief does not change her gender, or her speices


you need to learn something of realty steve

Why? Do you want me to sell you some property?
sure the Ocean front Proerty is Arizonia from your front door you will
see Pengins

but if you are so sure why do you care what I say to the CAP IG?

I don't, Morkie...Say all you want! Like I said above, them more
YOU say the more THEY will know what I ALREADY know about you!

so what steve since they chose not to help fine what do I care what
they think?

i will never meet one of them indeed the only result will be that when
it comes up I will question why our Ham club would want to work with
CAP

HOW MANY TIMES have I said that YOU are your own worst
enemy...?!?!?

how? you seem to think I care what Col Rushing thinks of me. I don't

I don't even care what you THINK about me I do care about the lkibel
you post about me, and the ffect it could have on my safety, but other
than i don't care about you



WHO ELSE were you refering to? There's no office within CAP
called "CDC."
never said I iwas taking about CAP steve

And again you show your ignorance.

no that is you that has done so

no threat exists till you show up here

The threat exists in Google archives and on the copy of this post
I am holding.
not as a matter of law
but please report it esp to the FBI or ATF


You made a threat of deadly force where no imminent threat
existed.

not according to the FBI detroit feild FO ask the agent in charge if
you like

You asked squat, fatboy.
no I did not ask we were discusing my complaints about you and Wisemen
and dcused what a threat was in the course of the discusion


That violated Federal and State of Michigan law.

then feel to report me
but be carefull how you phrase your report to the feds, lyying to them
can get you jail time

There's nothing to lie about.
nothing at all

They are YOUR words!

and so they are but simply being my words does not make them a threat


you threating to sue me again steve?

Not yet.

so wjust why should I care that this record can be subpeonead

give it up NOBODY is going buy that again (I think even Wismen will see
though that lie)

It wasn't a lie, Morkie.
it surewas

I told you them that you'd cooled your jets and I'd cool mine.

when did I cool my jets that is certainly a lie steve

but you promised I would receive it from "an officer of the court" you
haven't delivered

that is the fact

It looks like Frank did have you pegged you have something in your back
ground that you don't want exposed

I'll keep digging as long as you keep on with your libel steve, maybe I
will find this weakness you are hiding

Now you did this.
this what?

this effort to obtain some measure of justice for your misdeeds


Just one more thing.
and what?

I am tired of your idlethreats they realy are boring

I at least try to carry though on what i pormise

and I promise that i will continue to look for some measure of justice
as long as you insit on caring your effort to slander me and other in
my sight

just what i will try next i frankly uncertain but I will keep looking

I should think that is affair proves i am deterimined to try to bring
you to some from of justice

if you were wise you might consider that

Oh no, Morkie! You go right ahead and continue to think that the
UCMJ applies to me and that an organization that I happen to belong to
but which was in no way, shape or form part of these going's-on have
some responsibility for anything herein.

I never said they were responible I have impleied but will now state
plainly that I hope they will find they don't want a despictable person
such as yourself representing them anymore

How do I misrepresent CAP, Mork?

Until YOU brought it in here this week, I haven't mentioned CAP a
half dozen times.

lying again I am sure you psted more than 6 times as K4CAP

And as far as how I 'represent' CAP, folks here know better.
what folks steve?

we wll see how it all plays out

I already know how it plays out.
as do I now

You fall flat on your chubby face again!

will not be the first time, may not be the last even dealing with you,
but time will tell

But now they also know what a cukoo bird you really are.

As I was saying........

I know defending onefself against you seems nut to you steve

This was not "defending", Mork. It was harrassment. It is
TRUE stalking.

bull**** steve you have tried tomahve arrested on flase charges

What false charges?
hat ineed \you have made so many
Who tried to arrest you?
no one dispite your promise they would

you have tthreatened my life and my health many times

No, I've not. However it's more and more apparent that your
paranoia is problematic for you.
yes you have but do you wwant to try that road again steve?

I can't stop you , will i could but the only way it seems to stop you
involves murder, and I don't plan on that

(feel free to report another "death threat")
but as I was saying I can ahrdly stop you from tring to report me as
insane to michigan again, but what makes you think you will get any
further.

even if I am paranoid that does not allow for me to forced into mental
treatment, you know that steve, indeed Wsimen is clear proof of that if
either of us did not know that

I am simply beating
the bushes looking for an agentccy from which some measure of justice
can be obtained

Then you've AGAIN acknowledged that you're simply engaing in
retaliatory harrassment...Not a single valid charge to it.
no you lied again

I am seeking and WILL CONTINUE to seek whatever legal redress is open
to me


I'll add that to the collection.
oh hum steve

Steve, K4YZ