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Old June 20th 06, 05:22 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Sal M. Onella
 
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"gravity" wrote in message news:4496bf14$0$14238

5 WPM is easy.


Nonsense.

Tell us you can do it --- tell us your mangy hound dog can do it, but steer
clear of the blanket statements. It isn't easy to one who can't do it.


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Old June 20th 06, 12:36 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
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5 WPM is do-able! My 4 1/2 year granddaughter copies 5 wpm! Her 10 year old
brother, who learned it in Cub Scouts, taught her. And, she can't even spell
yet! But, she knows the alphabet from watching TV.

Some people have DIFFICULTY learning Morse Code, real difficulty!

I have taught Morse Code off and on for 40 years and from total ignorance to
100% success in 8 hours, 2 hours a week for 4 weeks [plus a little home
practice. It is practice [work] that makes it successful.]

Some people can learn the code but suffer from "TEST STRESS". They can copy it
comfortably in their home or their surroundings; but, when they have to
demonstrate that skill in front of a 'WITNESS' who has pass/fail power, they
tense up and fail. That's understandable and can be worked with.

Some people are dyslexic. But, they can hear it and talk it out, but can't get
it on paper. But, they learned the code.

If you can learn the english alphabet, if you can learn the english language, if
you can read this email then you CAN LEARN Morse Code at 5 WPM. You may never
progress to 20 wpm [It took me 24 months at 1 hour of practice a day every day
to progress from 5 to 20 wpm] but 5 wpm can be learned.

Teaching methods, practice criteria and testing/verification methods become
critical for those with difficulty.

/s/ DD, W1MCE

Sal M. Onella wrote:

"gravity" wrote in message news:4496bf14$0$14238


5 WPM is easy.



Nonsense.

Tell us you can do it --- tell us your mangy hound dog can do it, but steer
clear of the blanket statements. It isn't easy to one who can't do it.



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I'll top post again for brevity and getting to the point.

I like CW! It is most likely going away as a requirement. I'm sad at this.

Amateur radio will change as a result. Everything changes. Hopefully the changes
will be positive.

Dave wrote:

5 WPM is do-able! My 4 1/2 year granddaughter copies 5 wpm! Her 10 year
old brother, who learned it in Cub Scouts, taught her. And, she can't
even spell yet! But, she knows the alphabet from watching TV.

Some people have DIFFICULTY learning Morse Code, real difficulty!


MAJOR SNIPPING from here down.

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:42:03 -0400, Dave wrote:


I like CW! It is most likely going away as a requirement. I'm sad at this.

Amateur radio will change as a result. Everything changes. Hopefully the changes
will be positive.


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Don't be sad my friend. CW will survive if people find it useful, and
especially if the diehards will stop jamming it down people's throats.

News flash: People don't like that with CW or anything else! :-)

73, Bill W6WRT
20 wpm extra, licensed 49 yrs

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Dave wrote:
5 WPM is do-able! My 4 1/2 year granddaughter copies 5 wpm! Her 10 year old
brother, who learned it in Cub Scouts, taught her. And, she can't even spell
yet! But, she knows the alphabet from watching TV.

Some people have DIFFICULTY learning Morse Code, real difficulty!

I have taught Morse Code off and on for 40 years and from total ignorance to
100% success in 8 hours, 2 hours a week for 4 weeks [plus a little home
practice. It is practice [work] that makes it successful.]


bulls**** or I'd would have a noivice license rough 3 decades ago

Some people can learn the code but suffer from "TEST STRESS". They can copy it
comfortably in their home or their surroundings; but, when they have to
demonstrate that skill in front of a 'WITNESS' who has pass/fail power, they
tense up and fail. That's understandable and can be worked with.


never could do it alone with any reliablity either

Some people are dyslexic. But, they can hear it and talk it out, but can't get
it on paper. But, they learned the code.

some dyslexics can true

If you can learn the english alphabet, if you can learn the english language, if
you can read this email then you CAN LEARN Morse Code at 5 WPM. You may never
progress to 20 wpm [It took me 24 months at 1 hour of practice a day every day
to progress from 5 to 20 wpm] but 5 wpm can be learned.

shove you insistance that you can speak for eveyone where the sun don't
shine

Teaching methods, practice criteria and testing/verification methods become
critical for those with difficulty.

indeed as do factors like random chance

/s/ DD, W1MCE

now even if you are right why should somebody be made to take this test
after Icould endure 10 lashes in a public sqare too (and thatwould
certainly be easier)



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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in
news:IJKlg.105$lv.102@fed1read12:


"gravity" wrote in message
news:4496bf14$0$14238

5 WPM is easy.


Nonsense.

Tell us you can do it --- tell us your mangy hound dog can do it, but
steer clear of the blanket statements. It isn't easy to one who can't
do it.



When code goes away, you're going to be the one that tells us the written
is too hard.

sc
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Old June 21st 06, 05:53 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Sal M. Onella
 
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"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...



When code goes away, you're going to be the one that tells us the written
is too hard.



You wish! Of the 55 questions on my Technician License exam,
I missed one. ONE!

Technically, I'm an above average ham. Through your dirty goggles,
however,
you see me as some kind of slug because I can't do code. So wrong.

Because I already hit the twit filter on you, I won't see any reply you
send, so
play it up any way you want.


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