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Dave Heil · September 24th 06, 10:41 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
I'm not "taking" any of it.

Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station
and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there.

After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP.

I disagree.

I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment
of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough
to know just how wrong that segment of society is.
You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you
believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian?

The servicemen and
women stand guard without thought to their popularity.

I stood guard in basic training. I was too busy working or sleeping to
stand guard during the remainder of my four years. I never entered any
popularity contests.
And so you think very little of your military service.
Where did I write that I think little of my military service? I wrote
that I only stood guard in basic training and that never entered any
popularity contests. Are you busy trying to read between the lines again?

You wrote that you got out of the service because they wouldn't let you
play hobby radio in vietnam.

I never wrote any such thing. You're being untruthful again.

Now you write that you were too busy to stand guard except during basic
training. Somebody else would have to do it.

Nobody in my units ever did it, Brian. After basic training, I never
stood guard in the U.S. and never stood guard in Vietnam. I never awoke
to a bugle call and never pulled KP after basic. Go figure!

Welp, at least
you served.
I don't recall asking for the Brian Burke stamp of approval--or needing it.

And why would you?

I certainly couldn't come up with a reason.

According to you, you've led a perfect life.

That's another fabrication on your part. I've never stated any such thing.

In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office,
though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads
recruiter office...
I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I
know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen.
Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in
such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be
in the slammer. All that is beside the point.
I guess you didn't hear about the recruiting scandal where some
recruiters were accepting personal favors for recruiting hookers.

What happened to them? Are they still recruiters?

Couldn't you find out?

Jim hasn't made any
disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot
of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more
of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo.
I guess 6M has closed to France?
...and that makes recruiters touchy?

Makes Dave, the World's Greatest DXer, touchy for having worked out of
band Frenchmen on 6M.

I've never claimed to be the world's greatest anything. You and Len
have bandied that term about. I didn't break any regs in my 6m
operation or operation on any other band from anywhere I've operated.
If you have knowledge of some French hams who have broken their
country's regs, I suggest you supply call signs, dates, times and
frequencies to the French authorities.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil · September 24th 06, 10:43 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Public transportation is NEVER sulf-sustaining, ALWAY subsidized.
Interesting. I've NEVER heard of a subsidized taxi company. Is
Greyhound subsidized too? Did you figure this out all by your "sulf"?

Dave K8MN
Not vewy Innewesting at all.
What are you now--Elmer Fudd?

Always with the names. Wassa matta wid you?

Are you Sylvester Stallone now?

Yellow Cab and Greyhound are for profit corporations.
Of course they are. They're still public transportation. Your error is
noted.

They're not.

They are

Amtrak, Metropolitan Transit Authority (NYC), and Chicago Transit
Authority are public and are subsidized.
I've just given you a couple of examples which are public and not
subsidized.

You have? Are you taking Robesin's multiple-personality meds?

You can't figure it out and you think I'm on medication?

I'd have to get up pretty late in the morning to be corrected by the
World's Greatest DXer.
When you see him, give him my regards.

Sorry, but I never see him.

You seem to think about him a great deal.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil · September 24th 06, 11:11 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"
Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.
Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.
Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?
Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?
Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He
has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has
never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has
never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior.
He is an amateur extra morseman.
Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

Hmmm...always in defense of "Jim" comes "Dave."

It isn't so, Len. Jim and I are friends. We remain friends despite our
lack of agreement on politics. Jim acts civilly, tells a good story and
has a great sense of humor.

It is like they are "joined" somehow.

Are you and Brian joined? Brian defends you. You defend Brian. You
both have Mark Morgan agreeing with you to the best of his abilities.

That might be interesting if it were true. You've fabricated though.
Hans fabricated. Take it up with him.

Heil will not.

No, he will not because Hans didn't make the statement. Brian Burke did.

He seems to think he must defend this "Jim" by
attacking all who THREATEN "Jim." "Threat" being in Heil's
definition...about equivalent to NOT heaping gratuitous
praise on this "Jim."

This "Jim" thinks rationally and acts rationally. This "Len" does not
often display those traits.

I've noted no disdain for either the military, its members or its
veterans, from Jim.

Of course not. You invoke obtuseness at will.

Heil is an amateur extra morsemen. They don't "note" anything
but "threats" against their fellow morseketeers. They are the
elite and cannot be told what to do! :-)

Amateur Extras certainly hold the top license in amateur radio. They
must answer only to the FCC so, in that sense, they can't be told what
to do by others. You don't like anything you perceive as "elite" and you
certainly don't like those who consider you a sidewalk superintendent.

And that He thinks his favorite mode should be forced down everyone's
throat.
That's a fabrication too.
Then you won't mind if he tells me that.

Oh, Heil "Minds" all the time. "All for one and all for morse"
is the morseketeers battle cry! :-)

I have no knowledge of "morseketeers" and I wasn't aware that they have
a battle cry. Do you have a battle cry, Leonard?

This is too hilarious. :-)

It must be if you think that others are really laughing *with* you.

Dave Heil · September 24th 06, 11:13 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.
"usual liberal disdain"?
Let's see....some well known "liberals"....

[ Jimmy not a "known?" Tsk. ]

There's president Jimmy Carter, who graduated from the US Naval Academy
and served in the Navy on submarines. He also won the Nobel Peace
Prize, for being instrumental in the only long-term peace agreement in
the modern Middle East (the Camp David accords).
I recall no Middle East Peace in modern times.

Nor I. Maybe it was for one weekend or something.

The military draft ended January 1973 under Nixon's watch.
Jimmy had no worries about being drafted after that.

However, Carter pardoned most Vietnam War draft evaders in
January 1977. Way too liberal an act for my taste.

Jimmy still didn't volunteer to serve then.

He didn't have to. He was President and Commander in Chief.

Dave K8MN

old freind · September 24th 06, 11:14 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Hmmm...always in defense of "Jim" comes "Dave."

It isn't so, Len. Jim and I are friends. We remain friends despite our
lack of agreement on politics. Jim acts civilly, tells a good story and
has a great sense of humor.
so then how do you 2 remain friends

It is like they are "joined" somehow.

Are you and Brian joined? Brian defends you. You defend Brian. You
both have Mark Morgan agreeing with you to the best of his abilities.
get help dave

[email protected] · September 25th 06, 12:07 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Dave Heil wrote:
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Hmmm...always in defense of "Jim" comes "Dave."

It isn't so, Len. Jim and I are friends. We remain friends despite our
lack of agreement on politics. Jim acts civilly, tells a good story and
has a great sense of humor.

so then how do you 2 remain friends

Good question! :-)

It is like they are "joined" somehow.

Are you and Brian joined? Brian defends you. You defend Brian. You
both have Mark Morgan agreeing with you to the best of his abilities.

get help dave

I don't think psychiatric science is far enough advanced to
help him. It doesn't help Robesin and he says he works in
a hospital!

[email protected] · September 25th 06, 12:31 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Hmmm...always in defense of "Jim" comes "Dave."

It isn't so, Len. Jim and I are friends. We remain friends despite our
lack of agreement on politics. Jim acts civilly, tells a good story and
has a great sense of humor.

Dave and I are friends, too. We remain friends despite our
lack of agreement on some political issues. Dave acts civilly, tells a
good story and
has a great sense of humor. The Jimmy Carter comment was a classic.

so then how do you 2 remain friends

Good question! :-)

It's really very simple:

Our friendship is not based on absolute agreement on every subject.
Rather it is based on mutual respect and tolerance for differing points
of view. Differences are dealt with by looking at the issues rather
than attacking the other person over his name, ethnicity, religion,
geographic location, education, etc., just because he disagrees on
something and expresses that disagreement.

It is like they are "joined" somehow.

Mutual respect is the primary connection.

Are you and Brian joined? Brian defends you. You defend Brian. You
both have Mark Morgan agreeing with you to the best of his abilities.

get help dave

I don't think psychiatric science is far enough advanced to
help him.

What help is needed? Dave seems to have a very good life.

It doesn't help Robesin and he says he works in
a hospital!

Who is "Robesin"?

old freind · September 25th 06, 12:45 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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so then how do you 2 remain friends

Good question! :-)

It's really very simple:

Our friendship is not based on absolute agreement on every subject.
Rather it is based on mutual respect and tolerance for differing points
of view. Differences are dealt with by looking at the issues rather
than attacking the other person over his name, ethnicity, religion,
geographic location, education, etc., just because he disagrees on
something and expresses that disagreement.
so why do you suport Robeson making death threast on here Jim?

[email protected] · September 25th 06, 01:13 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

I'm not "taking" any of it.

Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station
and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there.

After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP.

I disagree.

I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment
of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough
to know just how wrong that segment of society is. The servicemen and
women stand guard without thought to their popularity.

Yes, they are what you say, Brian.

Nobody's interested in radiotelegraphy.

Actually, the olde-tymers seem to love it...especially those
who gave up learning the technical side of amateur radio
some 30 to 40 years back. Radiotelegraphy reminds them of
their youth and youthful dreams of being "top-notch radio ops"
of the 1930s in the 1960s.

The new-timers aren't interested, except the new ones who say they are
just to keep the peace with the oldsters who will give you hell for not
being interested in the Morse Code.

I think I once paralleled St Thomas Aquinas' 4 paths to believing in
God with why you should believe in Morse Code.

Not even Val Germann who
talked a good talk. He sure fooled a lot of people who desperately
wanted to believe that a newbie was interested in learning the code.
Hi, hi!

Heh heh heh. Of course. He got all the regular morseketeers
in here almost to a morsegasm. :-)

They bought his speil hook, line, and sinker.

It's still a puzzle why an ex-USN type would be at any Army
recruiting office as a civilian...as Robesin once stated. But
that can be relegated to just-another-delusional-dream of the
Imposter.

Robesin is a habitual liar. If he were ever to tell a truth, no one
would beleive it.

Most true! But, the imposter is going to continue with his
lying until this newsgroup becomes moderated.

He will continue even after moderation.

But, from Paul
Schleck's information bulletin, WE can't call him a liar any
more!

"Liar" wasn't even in my vocabulary until Robesin started his
thread-jacking, calling me and nearly everyone else a liar, a homo, a
pedo, a....

That will "violate" some "rules" (of engagement or
whatever) wherein no one can speak nasty of others. Doesn't
matter if they are military imposters, we won't be able to
say much of anything against such posturing liars. It's not
"nice."

Ptui.

Robesin is what he is. Not being able to verbalize that won't change a
thing. He'll still be a dispicable piece of excrement, and others will
see him for what he is.

[email protected] · September 25th 06, 01:27 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

I'm not "taking" any of it.

Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station
and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there.

After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP.

I disagree.

I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment
of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough
to know just how wrong that segment of society is.

You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you
believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian?

Millions of them, really. The descendants of the "hell no, we
won't go" generation...the "anti-war" people with their "peace"
symbols. They've quieted down a bit after 11 Sep 01...or the
press has quit featuring them on video news.

Saw some last Thursday night on my way to the rifle club meeting. They
had a bunch of little white chrosses in their front yard and were
waving "Bush Lied" signs at the side of the road.

Heil doesn't get out much, apparently. He might go over to
Jimmy's house to admire all his things, though, just like
Jimmy's other friend and neighbor.

Wouldn't surprise me if Jim had a bunch of white crosses in his front
yard.

The servicemen and
women stand guard without thought to their popularity.

I stood guard in basic training.

Wow! Did Heil get a medal for meritorious guard standing?

At least he learned how to do it.

I was too busy working or sleeping to
stand guard during the remainder of my four years.

Oh, yes, Heil was "IN" a country at war! Did he directly
engage "Charlie?" Get in lots of firefights? Or just fights?

Apparently, he served in a location not worth protecting.

I never entered any popularity contests.

Just as well. Heil was unlikely to win any...

Mr Congenitally.

And so you think very little of your military service. Welp, at least
you served.

Jimmy never served.

Other ways, other ways.

In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office,
though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads
recruiter office...

I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I
know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen.

Yes, I know Jimmy is too chicken to go to one. He might
actually LEARN something and NOT tell everyone "you are
wrong!" :-)

But, the Korporal uf ze Guard thinks I made a "THREAT!" :-)

Wow! Think of that: A no-code-test advocate "threatening"
one of the famous morseketeers!

Amazing that Robesin can post "slashed tires, rocks through windows,
and terrorized wives" and there's no mention of a "silly threat." But
you suggest that a military recruiter might pummel Jim for saying
something stoopid that gets noticed and characterized as a threat to
Jim. Hi!

Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in
such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be
in the slammer.

Only AFTER appropriate military action by the Judge Advocate
General Corps and one of two possible courts martial (not the
third, the highest one).

Heil hasn't touched on our angry USMC imposter's father's
alleged "recruiting" for the Army AFTER he got out of the USN.
Odd, considering said imposter is also an amateur extra
morseman...

Not odd at all. It is what I've come to expect.

Jim hasn't made any
disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot
of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more
of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo.

I guess 6M has closed to France?

He probably doesn't have the latest "firmware download" for
his Orion. :-)

Wonder if he's got the Orion II?

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