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Persuing a Career in Electronics, HELP!
I am not sure if this is the right place to be posting this, but i
figure its worth a shot. OK, first of all i have been away from radio for a few years (regretably) my call is KB2YFH. Anyway, i got my ticket when i was 16 i think or maybe younger... My question is i am getting older and still have nothing but a H.S diploma and dead-end jobs to show for... so, obviously i would like to continue my education. I realize now that my only true love was fixing and tinkering with my old radio equipment. I would like to know if someone could tell me what career path i should take that will qualify me and give me the experience i need in working with electronic equipment... preferably Wireless communications, RF circuts ... you know all the skills used to diagnose and repair such things as amateur transievers etc. I was licensed in NJ, but recently moved to Florida's Space Coast (Melbourne) where i am happy to see that ham radio is alive and thriving. I assume taking courses in electronic engineering would be in the right direction, but i am not sure exactly what i should do. If anyone could please give me some advice on what type of schooling i should look for, and if possible what schools are good for what i am looking for it would be greatly aprreciated. Thank you and i look forward to getting back on the air ASAP. |
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If your main interest is in diagnosis and repair, I suggest you look
into an Electronic Engineering Technology (EET) curriculum. Courses and degrees are offered by a lot of community colleges, as well as technical schools. Visit your local community college and have a talk with a counselor there -- he or she can give you a lot more information about what they offer, what the course content is like, and the kinds of jobs it'll prepare you for. An Electrical Engineering (EE) degree at a college or university prepares you more to do design, rather than repair. A BSEE (Batchelor of Science in Electrical Engineering) curriculum involves a lot more mathematics than an ASEET (Associate of Science in Electronic Engineering Technology) or BSEET degree. If you follow a traditional order of course work, you'll be in a BSEE program quite a while before you get to much that you recognize as electronics, since you'll usually start with calculus, physics, chemistry, and, yes, English. This is to lay the ground work for you to be able to understand electronics at the necessary level when it's introduced later in the program. In contrast, EET courses are a lot more hands-on, and get to the basic subject matter earlier. But it doesn't cover the material in as much depth as in an EE program. While community colleges seldom or never grant a BSEE degree, they generally offer quite a number of courses that can be transferred to a full college or university toward a BSEE degree, if that's your choice. Those courses are likely to be non-electronics courses, though, like the physics, chemistry, math, and English I mentioned. You might start along one path and decide later on the other. That's fine, although you should be aware that quite a number of courses in one program might not directly transfer for credit into the other. The counselor can give you the straight story about all that. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Justin wrote: I am not sure if this is the right place to be posting this, but i figure its worth a shot. OK, first of all i have been away from radio for a few years (regretably) my call is KB2YFH. Anyway, i got my ticket when i was 16 i think or maybe younger... My question is i am getting older and still have nothing but a H.S diploma and dead-end jobs to show for... so, obviously i would like to continue my education. I realize now that my only true love was fixing and tinkering with my old radio equipment. I would like to know if someone could tell me what career path i should take that will qualify me and give me the experience i need in working with electronic equipment... preferably Wireless communications, RF circuts ... you know all the skills used to diagnose and repair such things as amateur transievers etc. I was licensed in NJ, but recently moved to Florida's Space Coast (Melbourne) where i am happy to see that ham radio is alive and thriving. I assume taking courses in electronic engineering would be in the right direction, but i am not sure exactly what i should do. If anyone could please give me some advice on what type of schooling i should look for, and if possible what schools are good for what i am looking for it would be greatly aprreciated. Thank you and i look forward to getting back on the air ASAP. |
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If your main interest is in diagnosis and repair, I suggest you look
into an Electronic Engineering Technology (EET) curriculum. Courses and degrees are offered by a lot of community colleges, as well as technical schools. Visit your local community college and have a talk with a counselor there -- he or she can give you a lot more information about what they offer, what the course content is like, and the kinds of jobs it'll prepare you for. An Electrical Engineering (EE) degree at a college or university prepares you more to do design, rather than repair. A BSEE (Batchelor of Science in Electrical Engineering) curriculum involves a lot more mathematics than an ASEET (Associate of Science in Electronic Engineering Technology) or BSEET degree. If you follow a traditional order of course work, you'll be in a BSEE program quite a while before you get to much that you recognize as electronics, since you'll usually start with calculus, physics, chemistry, and, yes, English. This is to lay the ground work for you to be able to understand electronics at the necessary level when it's introduced later in the program. In contrast, EET courses are a lot more hands-on, and get to the basic subject matter earlier. But it doesn't cover the material in as much depth as in an EE program. While community colleges seldom or never grant a BSEE degree, they generally offer quite a number of courses that can be transferred to a full college or university toward a BSEE degree, if that's your choice. Those courses are likely to be non-electronics courses, though, like the physics, chemistry, math, and English I mentioned. You might start along one path and decide later on the other. That's fine, although you should be aware that quite a number of courses in one program might not directly transfer for credit into the other. The counselor can give you the straight story about all that. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Justin wrote: I am not sure if this is the right place to be posting this, but i figure its worth a shot. OK, first of all i have been away from radio for a few years (regretably) my call is KB2YFH. Anyway, i got my ticket when i was 16 i think or maybe younger... My question is i am getting older and still have nothing but a H.S diploma and dead-end jobs to show for... so, obviously i would like to continue my education. I realize now that my only true love was fixing and tinkering with my old radio equipment. I would like to know if someone could tell me what career path i should take that will qualify me and give me the experience i need in working with electronic equipment... preferably Wireless communications, RF circuts ... you know all the skills used to diagnose and repair such things as amateur transievers etc. I was licensed in NJ, but recently moved to Florida's Space Coast (Melbourne) where i am happy to see that ham radio is alive and thriving. I assume taking courses in electronic engineering would be in the right direction, but i am not sure exactly what i should do. If anyone could please give me some advice on what type of schooling i should look for, and if possible what schools are good for what i am looking for it would be greatly aprreciated. Thank you and i look forward to getting back on the air ASAP. |
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
A BSEE (Batchelor of Science in Electrical Engineering) curriculum That should, of course, be Bachelor. How embarrassing. Guess those English for Dumb Engineers courses weren't quite enough. . . needed a course in Using a Spelling Checker. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
A BSEE (Batchelor of Science in Electrical Engineering) curriculum That should, of course, be Bachelor. How embarrassing. Guess those English for Dumb Engineers courses weren't quite enough. . . needed a course in Using a Spelling Checker. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message ... snip If you follow a traditional order of course work, you'll be in a BSEE program quite a while before you get to much that you recognize as electronics, since you'll usually start with calculus, physics, chemistry, and, yes, English. This is to lay the ground work for you to be able to understand electronics at the necessary level when it's introduced later in the program. However this doesn't stop you from taking a more hands on electronics course each year or each half year. Usually you will get a little leeway in what order you need to take classes. Another route to go is a trade school. A friend went to ITT and loved the instruction method there. 2-3 hours of theory followed by 3 hours of application. He now works for Altera on there Nios Development. System. I was going to go to my local community college this coming fall but with budget cuts they dropped over 100 courses which all seem to have come from their Physics and Engineering departments. There isn't a single "Electronics" course offered. Neo-Volt |
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"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message ... snip If you follow a traditional order of course work, you'll be in a BSEE program quite a while before you get to much that you recognize as electronics, since you'll usually start with calculus, physics, chemistry, and, yes, English. This is to lay the ground work for you to be able to understand electronics at the necessary level when it's introduced later in the program. However this doesn't stop you from taking a more hands on electronics course each year or each half year. Usually you will get a little leeway in what order you need to take classes. Another route to go is a trade school. A friend went to ITT and loved the instruction method there. 2-3 hours of theory followed by 3 hours of application. He now works for Altera on there Nios Development. System. I was going to go to my local community college this coming fall but with budget cuts they dropped over 100 courses which all seem to have come from their Physics and Engineering departments. There isn't a single "Electronics" course offered. Neo-Volt |
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Amen on the grammar comment. I often look at resumes for computer
programming positions. Good programmers are notoriously meticulous about things like spelling, grammar and punctuation. It sort of goes with the territory. So, if I see sloppy, disorganized language, I figure I'm not dealing with a Real Hacker. A big red flag for me is misspelled or miscapitalized names of industry brands, names or terms, such as C, UNIX, uC, kHz, etc., especially if the applicant claims to have experience in those areas. To address the poster's original question, all of the advice I've seen in the responses is good. What I'd add from my own experience is: 1. Don't hesitate to cite nonprofessional experience if it applies. I've designed and built some nifty projects and published a few on the web and elsewhere. I put those in a section of my resume labeled "hobby achievements". 2. I have the utmost respect for schooling and degrees but I am self-taught and so are some of my coworkers. Small companies tend to focus more on results and less on credenitals, so if you're in a position where you have more abilities than you can prove on paper, you might want to try small companies. 3. If you don't get a job you wanted, ask that employer specifically what education you should pursue, and if you really want the job, come back in a year or so and try again. That makes a tremendous impression and I've been in on at least one such hiring. 4. Whatever education you pursue, do lots of hands-on projects on your own. They're fun, but they're also an important part of your education. It's one thing to write "10 watts" as the answer to a textbook problem on power supplies and another thing altogether to put your finger on a resistor that is dissipating 10 watts, or to observe how quickly a battery runs down under that kind of load. Good luck to the original poster or anyone else who is interested in electronics. It's fun and exciting stuff! David |
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Amen on the grammar comment. I often look at resumes for computer
programming positions. Good programmers are notoriously meticulous about things like spelling, grammar and punctuation. It sort of goes with the territory. So, if I see sloppy, disorganized language, I figure I'm not dealing with a Real Hacker. A big red flag for me is misspelled or miscapitalized names of industry brands, names or terms, such as C, UNIX, uC, kHz, etc., especially if the applicant claims to have experience in those areas. To address the poster's original question, all of the advice I've seen in the responses is good. What I'd add from my own experience is: 1. Don't hesitate to cite nonprofessional experience if it applies. I've designed and built some nifty projects and published a few on the web and elsewhere. I put those in a section of my resume labeled "hobby achievements". 2. I have the utmost respect for schooling and degrees but I am self-taught and so are some of my coworkers. Small companies tend to focus more on results and less on credenitals, so if you're in a position where you have more abilities than you can prove on paper, you might want to try small companies. 3. If you don't get a job you wanted, ask that employer specifically what education you should pursue, and if you really want the job, come back in a year or so and try again. That makes a tremendous impression and I've been in on at least one such hiring. 4. Whatever education you pursue, do lots of hands-on projects on your own. They're fun, but they're also an important part of your education. It's one thing to write "10 watts" as the answer to a textbook problem on power supplies and another thing altogether to put your finger on a resistor that is dissipating 10 watts, or to observe how quickly a battery runs down under that kind of load. Good luck to the original poster or anyone else who is interested in electronics. It's fun and exciting stuff! David |
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I'm taking Electronics Engineering Technician at Saint Lawrence College
this fall so I can pursue a similar career. It's a 2 year program, and it seems to be available at most college's. The starting salary for a technician is supposed to be about $35,000 CDN. The technologist level (3 year program) is about $45,000 CDN starting. If you wanted to go university level it's 4 years plus and the salary is much higher, but the math level is crazy. Justin wrote: I am not sure if this is the right place to be posting this, but i figure its worth a shot. OK, first of all i have been away from radio for a few years (regretably) my call is KB2YFH. Anyway, i got my ticket when i was 16 i think or maybe younger... My question is i am getting older and still have nothing but a H.S diploma and dead-end jobs to show for... so, obviously i would like to continue my education. I realize now that my only true love was fixing and tinkering with my old radio equipment. I would like to know if someone could tell me what career path i should take that will qualify me and give me the experience i need in working with electronic equipment... preferably Wireless communications, RF circuts ... you know all the skills used to diagnose and repair such things as amateur transievers etc. I was licensed in NJ, but recently moved to Florida's Space Coast (Melbourne) where i am happy to see that ham radio is alive and thriving. I assume taking courses in electronic engineering would be in the right direction, but i am not sure exactly what i should do. If anyone could please give me some advice on what type of schooling i should look for, and if possible what schools are good for what i am looking for it would be greatly aprreciated. Thank you and i look forward to getting back on the air ASAP. |
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