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N2EY hypocrtie and lair
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ps.com: wrote: wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 17 2006 7:37 am an old friend wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 3:36 pm wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 4:31 am What does that have to do with me? I do not know who "Lloyd" is, where s/he is, or what the disagreement between "Lloyd" and "Mark" is. He has not threatened to "use a 2x4 to bang on the heads of 1x2s." Awwww..."you don't know...." Poor thing isn't aware or informed. [David Horowitz would be horrified] I don't read everything that is posted to rrap, Len. I don't even read most of it. Too much noise. [he should have turned on the BFO...pretend its "CW"] you can't read 10 percent of RRAP and miss the calls for my death Jim Jim's an Extra. Like the "Patriot Act," he's able to monitor all posts, pull the key words out, if they aren't the key words he wants, he closes it up and erases his mind... "Patriotism" to him is agreeing with him and the ARRL. He is "above" all that "riff-raff" (no-code-test advocates). Here's a plain and simple fact: If you don't agree with him, you are WRONG. sigh I agree with very little of what Jim says. Well, Brian, now you can be "officially" WRONG most of the time! :-) [getting to be a rather large group we are in] Okay, let's everyone learn morse code to FIGHT TERRORISM!!! Wheee... :-) If you two would put your brain cell together you'll be twice as smart as Markie. SC |
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"Guts" and Subsidies and Other Things
From: on Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:01 am
wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 17 2006 6:18 am wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 3:36 pm wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 4:31 am You're not the King, Len. I predict that Yul try to be funny, but Yul fail. Brynner is dead. So is your line. I don't read everything that is posted to rrap, Len. I don't even read most of it. Too much noise. Turn on your BFO. Pretend its "CW." Remember that "CW" gets through (noise) when nothing else will... :-) Doesn't change the fact that I don't read much of rrap. A few posts a day at most. As I said, you are too good for the riff-raff... There's a person in Sun Valley, CA who wants the real estate zoning in "his" neighborhood to be unchanged. He thinks the fact that he owns Tsk, tsk, more beating on a dead horse. What is with you and all that necrophilia? Jimmy got his buttons pushed. Then he got his panties in a knot. Poor baby. Len, uou're the one behaving like an overtired two-year-old here. Not me. Jimmy got his buttons pushed. Then he got his panties wet and tried to push back. Not enough strength. Boo hoo. You mean like "slashed tires," "bricks through windows," and implications of arriving at your house with "the boys?" Who wrote those words? Not me. A US amateur extra with callsign K4YZ. He is too good for you to scold. Or you are in fear of him and thus don't scold. Hitting people on the head with a 2x4 isn't what I wrote. It's what you wrote. ...and that shocks you, poor frightened little person? It was about the proposed reduction of written testing by no-code-test advocates. Both NCI and NCVEC - who are no-code-test advocates - have also proposed license schemes with reductions in written testing. NCVEC wants to eliminate the written tests? I don't think so. I'm just pointing out the fact that your behavior goes far beyond trying to eliminate the Morse Code test. Jimmy just can't let go of the chance to point his finger at "enemies" and say they are "wrong!" :-) DROP it, Jimmy. I did, long ago. Then why do you keep arguing about it? Jimmy bring it up, gets into "error" mode, then says OTHER PERSON "brought it up." Amazing. I didn't say you brought it up, Len. I said you're arguing about it. Wow...what a HYPOCRITICAL *little* person you are, Jimmy. You constantly bring back very dead horses to ARGUE over them, then say ANY respondent is "arguing" about them! You're obvioulsy out of control here, Len. Jimmy he OBVIOLSY gone off the deep end without floatation collar... "OBVIOLSY"? YOU made the typo, now sleep with it... :-) Typing in all capitals is yelling, Len. You're not part of amateur radio. Oh, oh, cross-dressing Jimmy comes with Mother Superior again, yelling "Don't YELL in CAPITALS!" :-) Busy ruler try to go spank, spank, spank...making lots of noise but inflicting nothing... :-) I'm not yelling and I'm not on the sidelines. You are. I'm at my computer station, saying nothing...:-) No, that's not true at all. You're on the outside of amateur radio. And you're yelling. Sweetums, I've been on the INSIDE of RADIO-ELECTRONICS, the professional kind and the hobbyist kind for over half a century. :-) Where have you been? In the transportation industry and NOT in professional radio, only doing the bippity-beeping on your ham radio. :-) Are you ASHAMED of your job? Oh, no. I'm proud of it. "Proud" of WHAT? My job. Proud of NOTHING? Oh no - proud of my job. Why shouldn't I be? You are proud of NOTHING. :-) AFRAID someone will POKE FUN at it? Not at all. But you refuse to talk about what you do. That's not being afraid. It's common sense. You are afraid of being found out as an imposter? You are afraid of losing your "job" if your boss finds out? Jimmy never describes what he does as an "electronics professional." Why should anyone tell you about their job, Len? It is common among REAL radio-electronics professionals to talk about what they do to other pros. Some call that "shop talk." Lots and lots of such "shop talk" goes on at electronics trade shows, in the various publications of the IEEE. Oh, yes, I forgot that you do NOT belong to the IEEE, a professional organization. I do. 397 thousand OTHERS belong to the IEEE all around the world. Of course, you are "too good" to belong to a professional organization, aren't you. They are beneath you? You are an amateur extra and SO much better than the pros in radio. Ho hum. Jimmy have great delusions of grandeur... |
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"Guts" and Subsidies
From: on Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:31 pm
wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 17 2006 6:18 am wrote: The government-funded projects you worked on could not pay for themselves, so they were paid for with taxpayer money. IOW, a government subsidy. Tsk...I'll have to contact the Department of Agriculture to get "my subsidy money" that is "owed" me. :-) The fact is that government-funded projects are actually taxpayer-funded. If someone works on such a project, they are being subsidized - paid - by the taxpayers. Whaaa, whaaa, whaaa cries Jimmy, wanting that dead horse to come alive so he can beat it to death again...! :-) Unlike free-market businesses, government projects do not have to meet the same economic criteria as private industry. For example, NASA cannot operate like a private industry, because the capital costs are too high and the short-term Return On Investment is too low. So the taxpayers fund NASA. Ever been to Kern County Airport #7, Jimmy? That's the location of a private company called "Scaled Composities." They've already been to outer space and back...twice. NASA paid Scaled Composites? Well, did they? No, you say? Kern County Airport #7 is actually quite a big airport, an old USMC aircraft training location during WW2 and now home to many corporations, including several civilian flight test companies and at least one large used-aircraft reseller. The latter looks like a civilian version of Davis-Monthan AFB. You're projecting your own feelings again. *You* don't like subsidies, even though you've been on the receiving end of them, so you react to the word negatively. I haven't grown any crops lately, either. :-) No, it's correct. "Your paycheck" means "the money you were paid". If your employer was paid by the govt. for work you did, then your paycheck - the money - came from the taxpayers. Heh heh heh...some of it came from ME! By your weird-ass logic I was self-employed!!! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you ashamed of that? Not at all. Except for laws of the US on espionage and classified information, whatever private business restrictions signed-for, I can talk about all sorts of work I've done. Heck and darn, lil Jimmy, some of that has been written up in public periodicals! :-) You are ashamed to state what you work on except for the most vague way...such as being in the "transport industry." It's self-evident, Len. We know you are "self-evident," Jimmy. yawn Bus drivers are in the "transport industry." Larry Roll, the soma-cum-loud "graduate" in "Human Resources" (personnel department work) was a bus driver! Are you a bus driver, Jimmy? By definition, government-funded projects are paid for by the taxpayers. "By definition?!?" Whose "definition?" My Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary, 1989, says simply "...a grant of money, as from the government to a private organization." Doesn't mention "taxpayers" at all. I have yet to get a grant from the government. [I'd like to, sort of like "free money" in my viewpoint] I have yet to get a grant from any organization. I can see that someone who does so much nothing that they can't describe what they do would be sorely ****ed that others get/got comfortable salaries for working on government contracts. Yes, we feel your pain, Jimmy. So what? Nobody said that *all* your work was taxpayer-funded (i.e., subsidized). Just the part that was government work. "Nobody" else dwells on this "subsidy" bull****, Jimmy. Only you. What happened, did the Dept. of Agriculture turn down your offer to NOT plant certain crops so you could get a real subsidy? btw, you sure seem to have gone through a lot of employers. You betcha. Lots and lots of employers were here in southern California aerospace, Jimmy. Too bad you weren't part of it. You sat there on the sidelines in "EPA" (Eastern Pennsylvania) (bad acronym since you aren't involved with Environmental Protection Agency). I've lived in southern California for 50 years, Jimmy. There, a NEW thing you can make all sorts of implications about...have a ball! Check with your dictionary ;-) I already did. Your weird-ass "definition" of subsidy doesn't fit Webster's. I've seen how you have criticized the work of health care professionals, professional radio and communications people (including both military and government-service radio operators), mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, etc. - if they dare to disagree with you about the Morse Code test for an amateur radio license. Interestingly, all those you mention were PRO-code-test advocates! Did their work MANDATE keeping the code test in US amateur radio? I don't think so. Oh, and that "health care professional" you mentioned has yet to identify his place of work, has yet to provide any sort of identification of his "military career," nor the true circumstances why he left (suddenly) the Tennessee State Guard. Yet that individual have written obscene personal insults to just about everyone in this newsgroup (all remain in Google archives). He doesn't seem to know what a "Sharps" is, doesn't understand what 'helicobacter pylori' is, doesn't seem to know **** from shinola. Try for a better 'hero' to worship, Jimmy. I will, have, and expect to continue criticizing ANYONE for their self-righteous stance on keeping the morse code test. It is a political issue. Criticism of opponents on political matters is very much the American Way. But, we have to wonder if you are really an American, Jimmy. You want YOUR way all the time (very imperial, royal, dictatorial). You've never served your country in the military or in the government and seem to think having the personal HOBBY of amateur radio is a "service to the nation." He has presented some black-and-white digitized photographs of his 1974 ham radio project You mean the receiver? That was just one of my 1974 projects. It was a really good receiver, built for almost no money. I've built a lot more since then. According to a note on Kees Talen's (K5BCQ?) HBR page, you "lent it to your brother" then disassembled it in 1976. Yes, compared to all the other examples there, your "really good receiver" (built over three decades ago) certainly looked cheap. Not "inexpensive," cheap. and implied it was used today, Where? You have made another mistake, Len. No mistake. You implied that in here, about the time you gave a URL link to those photos. Ho hum. ignoring his earlier messaging about assembling an Elecraft KIT... Len, you're really on a roll with the mistakes this time.... You've NEVER assembled an Elecraft? You buy it ready- made? Have another ham assemble it for you? Can't you 'take the heat' of newsgroup give-and-take, Len? It seems you want to give but never take - criticize but never be criticized - behave one way but demand that others behave differently. Tsk, tsk, Jimmy. I am "criticized" (call it others trying to burn me at the stake and worse) all the time. It's the nature of the pro-code beasts. :-) Mother Superior, put away that ruler. You can't spank anyone with it. Get a better habit, Mother, you are angry all the time now. Tsk. Well, that leaves me out. I'm not angry or frustrated about not being able to advance my own work, Len. You do nothing. There's no such thing as "more of nothing." Ergo, "advancement" into doing more nothing is still nothing. I'm not even angry at you. HHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I almost feel sorry for you, sometimes, because you waste so much energy on spouting your anger here. Awwww... Hey, if you really have such sympathy, feel free to send me a monetary grant! I've never gotten one. Free money would be nice! And your postings speak for themselves. They don't "speak," Jimmy. No audio connected with them. Do you need an Audiobook to help you? Get that grant money together, those Audiobooks aren't free. What they say isn't very nice. Ain't that somethin' though! I don't follow the Church of St. Hiram's teachings (read brainwashing) and I am against the code test for an amateur radio license. Neither do I accept the smug, arrogant, illogical, invalid, dictatorial denigrations of others which the amateur extra morsemen babble in here. Now what you do, Jimmy? Nope. I'm not afraid at all. The ROI of telling you personal information is all negative. Why should anyone do that? If they have the courage, they can. You don't. You get really mad when someone brings up things you wrote in the past, and then verifies them with links and actual quotes. I get "mad?" Hell, no. I get IRRITATED is all. You have some kind of perverse "need" to constantly re-argue and re-argue and re-argue and re-argue and re-argue old, old, old threads. Ist du verruct so much that you think you can "win" some old argument you definitely LOST? I didn't say *all* your paychecks were taxpayer subsidized, Len. Neither did you say *part* of mine were... :-) Wow, Jimmy, you are reaching so far in rationalization of your "correctness" you've fallen off the edge of reason! Jimmy, try TRY to be a good sport about these postings. Sometimes YOU lose them. Be gracious and accept the losing. Try not to rationalize (beyond reasoning) that you "won" them when you didn't. Let them be. ...and go get laid. I don't care if its with a boyfriend of girlfriend...I'm not homophobic. |
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"Guts" and Subsidies
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From: on Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:31 pm wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 17 2006 6:18 am wrote: You're projecting your own feelings again. *You* don't like subsidies, even though you've been on the receiving end of them, so you react to the word negatively. I haven't grown any crops lately, either. :-) Heck, Len, you could grow them in your 21,000 square foot home. No, it's correct. "Your paycheck" means "the money you were paid". If your employer was paid by the govt. for work you did, then your paycheck - the money - came from the taxpayers. Are you ashamed of that? Not at all. Except for laws of the US on espionage and classified information, whatever private business restrictions signed-for, I can talk about all sorts of work I've done. But you're the fellow who raised holy hell when I advised you that there were things I couldn't tell you about my job. Go figure! Heck and darn, lil Jimmy, some of that has been written up in public periodicals! :-) You are ashamed to state what you work on except for the most vague way...such as being in the "transport industry." Where is the shame indicated, nibby old timer? It's self-evident, Len. We know you are "self-evident," Jimmy. yawn Bus drivers are in the "transport industry." Larry Roll, the soma-cum-loud "graduate" in "Human Resources" (personnel department work) was a bus driver! Are you a bus driver, Jimmy? Is this another denigration base upon a wild supposition, Len? By definition, government-funded projects are paid for by the taxpayers. "By definition?!?" Whose "definition?" My Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary, 1989, says simply "...a grant of money, as from the government to a private organization." Doesn't mention "taxpayers" at all. Where do you think the government obtains it's money, Leonard? I've seen how you have criticized the work of health care professionals, professional radio and communications people (including both military and government-service radio operators), mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, etc. - if they dare to disagree with you about the Morse Code test for an amateur radio license. Interestingly, all those you mention were PRO-code-test advocates! Hans Brakob is a "PRO-code-test advocate"? Really? You lit into him on a couple of occasions as if he were Hiram Percy Maxim reincarnated. It looks as if you've committed another factual error, Len. Did their work MANDATE keeping the code test in US amateur radio? I don't think so. Oh, and that "health care professional" you mentioned has yet to identify his place of work, has yet to provide any sort of identification of his "military career," nor the true circumstances why he left (suddenly) the Tennessee State Guard. ....and what is his obligation to make a report to you? Yet that individual have written obscene personal insults to just about everyone in this newsgroup (all remain in Google archives). He doesn't seem to know what a "Sharps" is, doesn't understand what 'helicobacter pylori' is, doesn't seem to know **** from shinola. I think any hero I'd choose would realize that Shinola hasn't been produced in decades. It is as defunct as "ham radio" magazine. I will, have, and expect to continue criticizing ANYONE for their self-righteous stance on keeping the morse code test. So you'll understand if you are criticized for your self-righteous stance on abolishing the morse code test. After all, you have no stake in amateur radio. It is a political issue. Criticism of opponents on political matters is very much the American Way. But, we have to wonder if you are really an American, Jimmy. You want YOUR way all the time (very imperial, royal, dictatorial). You've never served your country in the military or in the government and seem to think having the personal HOBBY of amateur radio is a "service to the nation." Are you questioning his citizenship, patriotism or both, Len? Who is the "we" you write of? Do you have a Vibroplex in your pocket? He has presented some black-and-white digitized photographs of his 1974 ham radio project You mean the receiver? That was just one of my 1974 projects. It was a really good receiver, built for almost no money. I've built a lot more since then. According to a note on Kees Talen's (K5BCQ?) HBR page, you "lent it to your brother" then disassembled it in 1976. Yes, compared to all the other examples there, your "really good receiver" (built over three decades ago) certainly looked cheap. Not "inexpensive," cheap. Tell us about the receivers you've built at home, Len. I'm sure that a fellow with your credentials had no trouble whipping up something really exotic in your home workshop. and implied it was used today, Where? You have made another mistake, Len. No mistake. You implied that in here, about the time you gave a URL link to those photos. Ho hum. I read those posts. I don't recall him implying any such thing. Well, that leaves me out. I'm not angry or frustrated about not being able to advance my own work, Len. You do nothing. There's no such thing as "more of nothing." Ergo, "advancement" into doing more nothing is still nothing. He does something which you know nothing about, Len. It irks you not to know. And your postings speak for themselves. What they say isn't very nice. Ain't that somethin' though! I don't follow the Church of St. Hiram's teachings (read brainwashing)... Isn't that interesting! Neither do I. ...and I am against the code test for an amateur radio license. Well dip me in flour, toss me in thirty weight and fry me to a golden brown! Neither do I accept the smug, arrogant, illogical, invalid, dictatorial denigrations of others which the amateur extra morsemen babble in here. Now what you do, Jimmy? Is it your opinion that those who you view as delivering "smug, arrogant, illogical, invalid, dictatorial denigrations" should just sit around while you behave like a horse's patoot? Nope. I'm not afraid at all. The ROI of telling you personal information is all negative. Why should anyone do that? If they have the courage, they can. You don't. Courage? It is plain for all to see what you've done with any sliver of personal information, Len. You get really mad when someone brings up things you wrote in the past, and then verifies them with links and actual quotes. I get "mad?" Hell, no. I get IRRITATED is all. You have some kind of perverse "need" to constantly re-argue and re-argue and re-argue and re-argue and re-argue old, old, old threads. How very odd. That is *precisely* what you do fairly frequently. Jimmy, try TRY to be a good sport about these postings. When do we get to the part where you become a good sport, Len? Sometimes YOU lose them. Be gracious and accept the losing. I suggest you print and save that little blurb. Paste it to your monitor, kindly old gent. It is sure to come up again very soon. Dave K8MN |
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wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:35:00 GMT, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: on Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:01 am No, that's not true at all. You're on the outside of amateur radio. And you're yelling. Sweetums, I've been on the INSIDE of RADIO-ELECTRONICS, the professional kind and the hobbyist kind for over half a century. :-) Feel free to get INSIDE a generic RADIO-ELECTRONICS newsgroup or an electronics hobbyist newsgroup and tell 'em how sharp you used to be. stop trying to act like a moderator you lack the standing http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ Don't sweat it, Mark. Davie is just a frustrated feldwebel standing on some little feldhernhugel snarling orderss, orderss! He's an amateur "Sgt Shultz" in a comedy of his own making. Davie ought to get with his buddie, "Major" Dud, learn what "commissioned officers" do. Even if it is an "auxilliary." oy, gevalt, such a schlemiel... |
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