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KØHB wrote: wrote: Yes - they were all subsidized by the taxpayers. Insulting bull****! Members of the Armed Forces do not receive a "subsidy" --- they receive pay for their service. de Hans, K0HB Master Chief Radioman, US Navy Lots of libs don't think very highly of military service. I've run into this before. |
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KØHB wrote: wrote: Yes - they were all subsidized by the taxpayers. Insulting bull****! Members of the Armed Forces do not receive a "subsidy" --- they receive pay for their service. de Hans, K0HB Master Chief Radioman, US Navy You have to forgive him, Hans, he "served in other ways..." :-( |
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wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: Yes - they were all subsidized by the taxpayers. Insulting bull****! Members of the Armed Forces do not receive a "subsidy" --- they receive pay for their service. I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. No real problem to me since I know your kind of "my body is too precious to waste serving my country" #######. shrug Takes all kinds. :-( My point was simply that certain people and industries are paid by the government rather than the free market. The government decides that something needs to be done for the public good, and that user fees can't pay for it, so taxpayer money pays for it. Rationalization and trying to weasel out of what you insultingly wrote. That covers a lot more than members of the Armed Forces - there are firemen, law enforcement officers, public education teachers and administrators, all manner of public works people, etc. There are also many private companies that would not exist, or would be much smaller, if the government did not buy their products and services. More rationalization. You were not in law enforcement or other public safety service. You DO play the angry Mother Superior in here, though...you must think that counts? For example, when Hoover Dam was built in the 1930s, the government used taxpayer money to pay the contractors that built the dam. Private industry could not do the job alone - the cost was too high and the short-term return on investment too low. The USA was not at war with Lake Mead. Neither were the waters threatening anyone in eastern Pennsylvania. Is it "insulting bull****" to say that that part of the country had its development subsidized by the government when Hoover Dam was built? If so, how should it be described? What IS insulting bull**** is your elitist NON-SERVING crap about members of the armed forces of the United States being "subsidized" by taxpayers. Now check out your "people skills" by going into the nearest military base or VFW hall or a military recruiting station and repeat your "insulting bull****" to the veterans there. ex-RA16408336, Sgt., SigC, United States Army 1952-1960 |
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"Guts" and Subsidies
From: on Thurs, Sep 21 2006 3:47 am
wrote: From: on Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:31 pm wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 17 2006 6:18 am wrote: You are ashamed to state what you work on except for the most vague way...such as being in the "transport industry." Bus drivers are in the "transport industry." Larry Roll, the soma-cum-loud "graduate" in "Human Resources" (personnel department work) was a bus driver! Are you a bus driver, Jimmy? Is there something wrong with being a bus driver, Len? You didn't answer the question. Two bus drivers have been in here; one left and one died. Couldn't stay with any of them for too long, huh? Is there something wrong with job-hopping, Jimmy? Since you haven't been in the aerospace business, you don't understand that layoffs happen. That's the point - if someone is a procodetest person, anything they do is insulted by you. Incorrect. Then why did you criticize their work? Why is it even an issue? I can't criticize your work. You never say what it is. There's a lot of things you don't know eithr, Len. You've inhaled too much "eithr," Jimmy. :-) Besides, what does his behavior have to do with yours? What does your behavior have to do with Nursie? Your behavior is similar to his and you condone his postings. You seem to be saying that since one person allegedly did what you describe, it somehow justifies *your* behavior. Unlike yourself, I don't "justify" my behavior by rationalizing it three ways from Sunday to fit the olde-tyme morsemen's devotion to the Church of St. Hiram.. You ASSUME the role of "critic" yet are with many faults. That's faulty logic on your part. No. You dislike my comments and opinions, label them FALSELY as "faulty" when you are NOT the supreme critic. IOW, rather than discuss the issue itself in a civil manner, you'll attack their work, gender, ethnicity, education, and anything else you can find out about them. Even if they don't do the same to you. That's faulty logic on your part. What about your self-righteous stance on eliminating the Morse Code test? Nothing "self-righteous" about it. Elimination of the code test is a LOGICAL thing for the FCC to do. 1. The FCC is under NO mandate by international radio regulations to keep the amateur radio license code test. It is the FCC's option to keep or eliminate. 2. The FCC has not required all US radio amateurs to operate manual radiotelegraphy for years over and above any other allocated mode. Yet, there are NO manual skill tests for operating any other allocated modes. All allocated modes are optional to use. 3. NO other US radio service uses manual radiotelegraphy for regular communications, therefore there is NO "pool of trained (telegraphy) operators" necessary for any national need. Those are all supremely LOGICAL statements, all true. Nothing "self-righteous" about them. On the other hand, the truly self-righteous are the olde- tyme radio amateurs who slavishly follow the dictates of the ARRL (a minority group NOT "representing" all amateurs) and their own emotions ("I had to take a code test so everyone else must"...forever). Yet you go all Godwin when someone criticizes you, Len. I go with God, not some "godwin." But, we have to wonder if you are really an American, Jimmy. You want YOUR way all the time (very imperial, royal, dictatorial). You've never served your country in the military or in the government and seem to think having the personal HOBBY of amateur radio is a "service to the nation." I see. Having a different opinion is un-American...to you. You've never served the United States of America as any military service member, are NOT in the government, yet you defend your HOBBY of amateur radio as "being a service to the nation?" Your logic there is so faulty that John Cleese couldn't even satirize it. Apparently you think that advocacy of eliminating the code test is "un-American?!?" According to a note on Kees Talen's (K5BCQ?) HBR page, you "lent it to your brother" then disassembled it in 1976. Nope. Read the "note" again. It was not disassembled in 1976. Tsk on me, bad sentence structure. :-) Your "note's" last sentence indicates you "lent it to your brother" in 1976. He "used it for 'several years' but "sometime in the 1980s it was stored in an attic." After that it was disassembled. So, you did not have it for your use after 1976. 1976 is thirty years ago. Your brother is Thomas Miccolis, WA3UZI, lives in the state of Maryland. Yes, compared to all the other examples there, your "really good receiver" (built over three decades ago) certainly looked cheap. Not "inexpensive," cheap. In what way, Len? Are you more concerned with looks than performance? You have posted NO "performance" figures for that 32-year-old version of an HBR. That it "works good" is highly subjective and not quantifiable. You've NEVER assembled an Elecraft? You buy it ready- made? Have another ham assemble it for you? I assembled my K2 in 2001. Still have it, still works. Try reading what I actually wrote, Len. Try WRITING things which are more definite. Try making replies as actual, firm stances on things instead of just "answering" with other questions. You do nothing. That's simply not the case. I just won't tell you about my work. You are "proud" of doing nothing. I don't submit to your "brainwashing" and I don't accept your smug, arrogant, illogical, invalid, dictatorial denigrations. Nor do I reply in kind to you. You just did what you said you don't do! :-) I also don't use the actions of others as an excuse for my own towards a third party. I don't assign "group guilt" to all nocodetest advocates. What "guilt" do you think no-code-test advocates have? It's not about "courage". Did you have the courage to serve your country? Len, be a good sport about these posts. I try to be. :-) But...Mother Superior shows up with her spanking ruler and says: You usually lose the arguments because your logic and facts are faulty. Tsk, Mother Superior deserves to be ruler-spanked herself for making THAT statement! :-) Be gracious and accept your losses. What "losses," Jimmy? :-) Try not to rationalize that you won them. I "rationalize?!?" :-) I point out your own rationalization, excuses, and general behavior consistent with morsemanship brainwashing by the League. It is obvious, but you act as if you have NO faults! :-) "A self-proclaimed professional writer should know it, too." "Professional" means getting paid for work. There is NO pay or monetary compensation for writing in here...or showing where you are false and misleading (more of a recreational activity for me). Replies to your postings just "write themselves." NO writer can "self-proclaim" a by-line printed by a publication in thousands of copies of an edition. Mother Superior should change her habit. Quit trying to be the cross-dresser, Jimmy. Go get laid. It will take your mind off cross-dressing. As I said, I'm not homophobic and don't care whether it is with a boyfriend or girlfriend. |
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wrote: On 21 Sep 2006 03:20:02 -0700, wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: Yes - they were all subsidized by the taxpayers. Insulting bull****! Members of the Armed Forces do not receive a "subsidy" --- they receive pay for their service. de Hans, K0HB Master Chief Radioman, US Navy Lots of libs don't think very highly of military service. I've run into this before. indeed subidy my ass What Jim doesn't realized is that the blood of service men and women subsidize his freedom. Because Jim didn't serve. |
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wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: Yes - they were all subsidized by the taxpayers. Insulting bull****! Members of the Armed Forces do not receive a "subsidy" --- they receive pay for their service. de Hans, K0HB Master Chief Radioman, US Navy You have to forgive him, Hans, he "served in other ways..." :-( Actually, you don't have to forgive him. I've run into other libs that think that servicemen and women serve because they have nothing better to do, nothing else on the ball. Seriously. |
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"Guts"
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"Guts"
wrote: wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 21 2006 3:47 am wrote: From: on Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:31 pm wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 17 2006 6:18 am wrote: You are ashamed to state what you work on except for the most vague way...such as being in the "transport industry." Bus drivers are in the "transport industry." Larry Roll, the soma-cum-loud "graduate" in "Human Resources" (personnel department work) was a bus driver! Are you a bus driver, Jimmy? Is there something wrong with being a bus driver, Len? You didn't answer the question. You don't answer all of my questions, Len. Why should I answer all of yours? Two bus drivers have been in here; one left and one died. Both are missed. IIRC, one of Larry Roll's duties was transporting senior citizens and disabled people who couldn't drive. His work made it possible for them to have much more mobility and independence. That's nice. And before that, his (subsidized) work enabled the freedoms that you take for granted. Larry Roll was a MSgt in the USAF. If I understand his period of service, his "inactive" service commitment of 10 years just expired. That's twenty years of putting your freedoms ahead of himself and his family, followed by another 10 years of being on call to do it again. |
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"KØHB" wrote in message de Hans, K0HB Master Permanent Mess Cook, US Navy |
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