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Slow Code July 25th 06 12:42 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 

That's what you have to decide.

SC


an old freind July 25th 06 12:53 AM

bless you and may you find peace
 
Slow Code wrote:
That's what you have to decide.

SC

no it isn't
CW as a licenseing requiremtn is on life support and the plug will be
pulled soon

CB has nothing to to do with it


g. beat July 25th 06 01:05 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...

That's what you have to decide.

SC


Personally, I would rather have the First Class and Second Class Radio
Telephone back. Thank the broadcasters for lobbying to eliminate that
requirement -- ironic that the industry has been sliding ever since (go
figure) --
and of course -- this happen at the same time that personal computers for
business usage were expanding, LAN for the PCs & cellular telephones
introduced, and AT&T was broken up (1984 Judge Green order). SO -- the
best "talent" left the industry (since the industry no longer wanted to pay
for it).

gb



Sam July 25th 06 01:51 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 


"g. beat @" wrote:

"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...

That's what you have to decide.

SC


Personally, I would rather have the First Class and Second Class Radio
Telephone back. Thank the broadcasters for lobbying to eliminate that
requirement -- ironic that the industry has been sliding ever since (go
figure) --
and of course -- this happen at the same time that personal computers for
business usage were expanding, LAN for the PCs & cellular telephones
introduced, and AT&T was broken up (1984 Judge Green order). SO -- the
best "talent" left the industry (since the industry no longer wanted to pay
for it).

gb



Wifi Skype coming this year.
I'll go with CW. It's taking me a while to learn
but I'm convinced it's an important skill.




EchoBlip July 25th 06 03:54 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
C u p o r C o n e . . . . .


"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...

That's what you have to decide.

SC




RHF July 25th 06 06:12 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
Slow Code wrote:
That's what you have to decide.

SC


SC - 10-4 Good Buddy ! :o) ~ RHF

I give Honor and Respect to any Amateur Radio {Ham} Operator :
Who has built and uses his own Receiver and CW Transmitter
for regular CW use. I will gladly read their posts and listen to
their arguments as to "Why" CW is important to the ARS.
- BUT - "IF" all they have every done is bought ready-made
equipment and claim that CW is necessary to the ARS
- please don't waste my time.

Bill Turner July 25th 06 07:10 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On 25 Jul 2006 10:12:17 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

I give Honor and Respect to any Amateur Radio {Ham} Operator :
Who has built and uses his own Receiver and CW Transmitter
for regular CW use. I will gladly read their posts and listen to
their arguments as to "Why" CW is important to the ARS.
- BUT - "IF" all they have every done is bought ready-made
equipment and claim that CW is necessary to the ARS
- please don't waste my time.


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Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?

Did you build your own car? Dishwasher? Toaster? Razor?

Bill, W6WRT

[email protected] July 25th 06 07:28 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 

Bill Turner wrote:
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On 25 Jul 2006 10:12:17 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

I give Honor and Respect to any Amateur Radio {Ham} Operator :
Who has built and uses his own Receiver and CW Transmitter
for regular CW use. I will gladly read their posts and listen to
their arguments as to "Why" CW is important to the ARS.
- BUT - "IF" all they have every done is bought ready-made
equipment and claim that CW is necessary to the ARS
- please don't waste my time.


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Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?

everything if you ask most of the CW advocates

Did you build your own car? Dishwasher? Toaster? Razor?

Bill, W6WRT



Bill Turner July 25th 06 08:00 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On 25 Jul 2006 11:28:39 -0700, "
wrote:

Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?



everything if you ask most of the CW advocates


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A non-answer. Try again. What does one have to do with the other?

Bill, W6WRT

Dave July 25th 06 08:14 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
Bill Turner wrote:

SNIPPED


Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?

Did you build your own car? Dishwasher? Toaster? Razor?

Bill, W6WRT


:-)

Bill, I had a master machinist work for me in the 1960s. He could make ANYTHING!!

I asked him if he could make a car. Sure!! His reply: "All I need is a block of
steel 6X6X20 feet, a large milling machine, and a large lathe."

He was a Ham Radio Operator, Collins stuff of the 60s.

/s/ DD W1MCE


dxAce July 25th 06 08:27 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 


an old freind wrote:

Bill Turner wrote:
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On 25 Jul 2006 11:28:39 -0700, "
wrote:

Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?



everything if you ask most of the CW advocates


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A non-answer. Try again. What does one have to do with the other?

why try again?
that is what is insited on by the CW advocates along with anybody that
opposes the requirement is lazy or wnat to turn the ARS into CB no
proof no evidence just mantras

Id rather answer what does a CW test show about my abilty to operate on
HF when I have no intention to ever use CW. I d love an answer to that
question but I will nver get it either


Face it, you're just lazy. (Besides being horribly retarded).



an old freind July 25th 06 08:30 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 

dxAce wrote:
an old freind wrote:

Bill Turner wrote:
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On 25 Jul 2006 11:28:39 -0700, "
wrote:

Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?


everything if you ask most of the CW advocates

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

A non-answer. Try again. What does one have to do with the other?

why try again?
that is what is insited on by the CW advocates along with anybody that
opposes the requirement is lazy or wnat to turn the ARS into CB no
proof no evidence just mantras

Id rather answer what does a CW test show about my abilty to operate on
HF when I have no intention to ever use CW. I d love an answer to that
question but I will nver get it either


Face it, you're just lazy. (Besides being horribly retarded).

you are just the prooof I need to make my point about why the Hobby is
in trouble


an old feind July 25th 06 10:17 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 

RHF wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
That's what you have to decide.

SC


SC - 10-4 Good Buddy ! :o) ~ RHF

I give Honor and Respect to any Amateur Radio {Ham} Operator :
Who has built and uses his own Receiver and CW Transmitter
for regular CW use. I will gladly read their posts and listen to
their arguments as to "Why" CW is important to the ARS.
- BUT - "IF" all they have every done is bought ready-made
equipment and claim that CW is necessary to the ARS
- please don't waste my time.


BTW any coment on No tech has bulilt and uses (when he can someone else
to talk ) a ^M AM rig one tube and all old type of design (based on an
old ham 5 meter unit)
.
.
. .



Slow Code July 26th 06 12:36 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
"g. beat" @spam protected wrote in
:

"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...

That's what you have to decide.

SC


Personally, I would rather have the First Class and Second Class Radio
Telephone back. Thank the broadcasters for lobbying to eliminate that
requirement -- ironic that the industry has been sliding ever since (go
figure) --


That's what happens when you lower standards, why hams don't realize that,
I'll never know. Maybe it's just laziness.

SC

m II July 26th 06 03:36 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
Bill Turner wrote:

Construction/design skills and operating skills are two different
things. What does one have to do with the other?

Did you build your own car? Dishwasher? Toaster? Razor?



Why, certainly....and as soon as I stop these multiple, deep lacerations
gushing red, I'll delve a bit deeper into the ...


Honey..is that ambulance here yet? I'm getting real faint.....




Bill Turner July 26th 06 07:02 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:27:34 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Face it, you're just lazy.


------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

Laziness is not the issue. It's a question of results gained for the
effort expended. Nearly everyone will put a LOT of effort into
something if they perceive a useful return on their efforts.

CW donesn't so that for most people.

Bill, W6WRT

Bill Turner July 26th 06 07:05 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:14:26 -0400, Dave wrote:


Bill, I had a master machinist work for me in the 1960s. He could make ANYTHING!!

I asked him if he could make a car. Sure!! His reply: "All I need is a block of
steel 6X6X20 feet, a large milling machine, and a large lathe."

He was a Ham Radio Operator, Collins stuff of the 60s.

/s/ DD W1MCE


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The question was not if you "could" build you own car, it was "did"
you.

Bill, W6WRT

Bill Turner July 26th 06 07:11 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On 25 Jul 2006 13:40:18 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

BT - One Word : "Amateur" {Ham} as in Operator ~ RHF

All 'others' for the most part are 'appliance operators'
just like so many CB'ers - IMHO.
.


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Nope. It's "Amateur Radio Operator", not "Amateur Radio Constructor".

I'll ask again: What does construction skill have to do with operator
skill?

Bill, W6WRT

an old freind July 26th 06 09:30 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 

Bill Turner wrote:
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:27:34 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Face it, you're just lazy.


------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

Laziness is not the issue. It's a question of results gained for the
effort expended. Nearly everyone will put a LOT of effort into
something if they perceive a useful return on their efforts.

indeed perosn I spent several 100 hr and got no result for it (except
early for the day dectection of my dyslexia)

CW donesn't so that for most people.

Bill, W6WRT



Jim - NN7K July 26th 06 11:35 PM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 




Laziness is not the issue. It's a question of results gained for the
effort expended. Nearly everyone will put a LOT of effort into
something if they perceive a useful return on their efforts.

CW donesn't so that for most people.

Bill, W6WRT


Tell that to anyone that uses Aurora! What is
that intenmittant buzz on my radio?? Why can't I
figure out where this interference is comming
from? Can I get my power company to eliminate
it? And, by the very nature of it, digital
wont decode it (too much distortion).
Oh, well! And, BTW,1) The First Class Phone
is no longer issued (only General), and 2),
the ONLY people NEEDING one is for Marine , and
for Airlines! These havent been required for
two way, nor broadcast services for years, now!
The only reason for the requirement for those
two services, are because of International Treaty!
Jim NN7K

an old friend July 27th 06 12:16 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 

Jim - NN7K wrote:

Laziness is not the issue. It's a question of results gained for the
effort expended. Nearly everyone will put a LOT of effort into
something if they perceive a useful return on their efforts.

CW donesn't so that for most people.

Bill, W6WRT


Tell that to anyone that uses Aurora!

funny i do some aurora e and i never use cw


Jim - NN7K July 27th 06 01:03 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 


an old friend wrote:
Jim - NN7K wrote:

Laziness is not the issue. It's a question of results gained for the
effort expended. Nearly everyone will put a LOT of effort into
something if they perceive a useful return on their efforts.

CW donesn't so that for most people.

Bill, W6WRT


Tell that to anyone that uses Aurora!


funny i do some aurora e and i never use cw

Then, youi have better announciation, andtonal
understanding than I have!

an_old_friend July 27th 06 01:12 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
Jim - NN7K wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Jim - NN7K wrote:

Laziness is not the issue. It's a question of results gained for the
effort expended. Nearly everyone will put a LOT of effort into
something if they perceive a useful return on their efforts.

CW donesn't so that for most people.

Bill, W6WRT

Tell that to anyone that uses Aurora!


funny i do some aurora e and i never use cw

Then, youi have better announciation, andtonal
understanding than I have!

indeed it is a chalange but I am almost as talented verbaly as I
impaired in text I have couple of Aurar E over the pol in the FSU and
they are not entirely in english either


Bill Turner July 27th 06 05:31 AM

Choices, Choices, Choices... CW or CB?
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:35:00 GMT, Jim - NN7K
wrote:

Tell that to anyone that uses Aurora!


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Yawn.

Bill, W6WRT


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