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Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Find Maddie" wrote in message ... Help them to find Maddie !!! She's 4 years old and has a distinctive mark on right eye. £ 2.6 millions reward for anyone with valid informations. === www.findmadeleine.com This might seem a bit obvious - but why don't you obtain an electronic picture of her and post it to every binaries group you can think of? Then more people around the world can download/print out the picture an pin it up in their local |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
ian field wrote:
"Find Maddie" wrote in message ... Help them to find Maddie !!! She's 4 years old and has a distinctive mark on right eye. £ 2.6 millions reward for anyone with valid informations. === www.findmadeleine.com This might seem a bit obvious - but why don't you obtain an electronic picture of her and post it to every binaries group you can think of? Then more people around the world can download/print out the picture an pin it up in their local Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... Rick |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Rick" wrote in message ... ian field wrote: "Find Maddie" wrote in message ... Help them to find Maddie !!! She's 4 years old and has a distinctive mark on right eye. £ 2.6 millions reward for anyone with valid informations. === www.findmadeleine.com This might seem a bit obvious - but why don't you obtain an electronic picture of her and post it to every binaries group you can think of? Then more people around the world can download/print out the picture an pin it up in their local Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... Rick Actually, this is an international news story, and the findmadeleine.com website is legit. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
Rick wrote: Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... BZZZzzttt! Wrong... this one is actually legitimate. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... BZZZzzttt! Wrong... this one is actually legitimate. Jeff Tragic as it is, and I do feel for the parents but kids get abducted all the time and how many of their parents get lent a private jet to go visit the Pope - having said that I don't mind offering helpful (if obvious) advice. If the OP really wanted to do something useful, they would upload the pictures to all the binaries they could think of and try to persuade anyone who opens the thread to propagate the pictures to any binaries they can think of, the first reply after mine demonstrates the level of reluctance to open potentially suspicious websites so the effective publicity from a website is much less than covering the binaries. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
ian field wrote:
"Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... BZZZzzttt! Wrong... this one is actually legitimate. Jeff Tragic as it is, and I do feel for the parents but kids get abducted all the time and how many of their parents get lent a private jet to go visit the Pope - having said that I don't mind offering helpful (if obvious) advice. If the OP really wanted to do something useful, they would upload the pictures to all the binaries they could think of and try to persuade anyone who opens the thread to propagate the pictures to any binaries they can think of, the first reply after mine demonstrates the level of reluctance to open potentially suspicious websites so the effective publicity from a website is much less than covering the binaries. With the number of missing children world wide, this would soon render the already ailing USENET completely useless. Europe needs to do what this group has for the USA: http://www.codeamber.org It ties the internet, news media and law enforcement's efforts together, into a single effort to find the child. The more fragmented the search, the lower the chances are that they will be found alive. That a look at the home page of my website to see how it works. There is a live banner at the bottom of the page that lets you know about active alerts, and by clicking on any of them it will take you to more information at their website. http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/index.html -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... ian field wrote: "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... BZZZzzttt! Wrong... this one is actually legitimate. Jeff Tragic as it is, and I do feel for the parents but kids get abducted all the time and how many of their parents get lent a private jet to go visit the Pope - having said that I don't mind offering helpful (if obvious) advice. If the OP really wanted to do something useful, they would upload the pictures to all the binaries they could think of and try to persuade anyone who opens the thread to propagate the pictures to any binaries they can think of, the first reply after mine demonstrates the level of reluctance to open potentially suspicious websites so the effective publicity from a website is much less than covering the binaries. With the number of missing children world wide, this would soon render the already ailing USENET completely useless. Europe needs to do what this group has for the USA: http://www.codeamber.org It ties the internet, news media and law enforcement's efforts together, into a single effort to find the child. The more fragmented the search, the lower the chances are that they will be found alive. That a look at the home page of my website to see how it works. There is a live banner at the bottom of the page that lets you know about active alerts, and by clicking on any of them it will take you to more information at their website. http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/index.html That's a great suggestion - it wouldn't be a bad idea to publicise it anywhere you can think of. The current publicity surrounding this case could be the catalyst for creating something similar across Europe. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"ian field" wrote in message ... "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... BZZZzzttt! Wrong... this one is actually legitimate. Jeff Tragic as it is, and I do feel for the parents but kids get abducted all the time and how many of their parents get lent a private jet to go visit the Pope - having said that I don't mind offering helpful (if obvious) advice. If the OP really wanted to do something useful, they would upload the pictures to all the binaries they could think of and try to persuade anyone who opens the thread to propagate the pictures to any binaries they can think of, the first reply after mine demonstrates the level of reluctance to open potentially suspicious websites so the effective publicity from a website is much less than covering the binaries. Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
ian field wrote:
That's a great suggestion - it wouldn't be a bad idea to publicise it anywhere you can think of. The current publicity surrounding this case could be the catalyst for creating something similar across Europe. It would have a lot more impact if suggested by someone in Europe, not the US. A lot of groups already have a bad case of NIH, and its even worse when it comes from a foreign country. Some large newspaper or news organization should start it, and sell logo only ads to corporate sponsors. I would think that if the contact the http://www.codeamber.org people they would help them with the initial setup. They already have a working system, why not share it, or license it to others? If you hear them yaking about it on some news program and they ask for comments, ask them why they don't at least have something like what the US has had for years? That ought to stir them up. :-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"jim menning" wrote in message ... "ian field" wrote in message ... "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Come on - you do know that's spam to get hold of your bank account numbers... BZZZzzttt! Wrong... this one is actually legitimate. Jeff Tragic as it is, and I do feel for the parents but kids get abducted all the time and how many of their parents get lent a private jet to go visit the Pope - having said that I don't mind offering helpful (if obvious) advice. If the OP really wanted to do something useful, they would upload the pictures to all the binaries they could think of and try to persuade anyone who opens the thread to propagate the pictures to any binaries they can think of, the first reply after mine demonstrates the level of reluctance to open potentially suspicious websites so the effective publicity from a website is much less than covering the binaries. Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. Hopefully this will act as a catalyst for Europe to create its own amber alert scheme. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
Brian Hill wrote:
"jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH I don't think you get what Jim was saying. There are a lot of OTHER missing children who might be in his area, but this girl disappeared on the other side of the earth. What are the chances that he'll be within a 1000 miles of her, let alone see her? His time is better spent in cases where he DOES stand a chance of helping. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH Jim thinks binaries can only be viewed in Wisconsin! |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH Yeah, I'm being very selfish. I'll get off my lazy ass, and start going door to door here, and I won't give up until I find her. C'mon, Brian. This is one of countless lost children around the world, and nowhere near where I am. In this particular case, for Madeleine McCann, there is nothing I can do. Now if you can provide me with pictures of the lost children in my area, that would be different. For a child lost in Portugal, let the locals there look for her. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"jim menning" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH Yeah, I'm being very selfish. I'll get off my lazy ass, and start going door to door here, and I won't give up until I find her. C'mon, Brian. This is one of countless lost children around the world, and nowhere near where I am. In this particular case, for Madeleine McCann, there is nothing I can do. Now if you can provide me with pictures of the lost children in my area, that would be different. For a child lost in Portugal, let the locals there look for her. She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? But quite right - Europe should have its own version of codeamber. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"ian field" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH Jim thinks binaries can only be viewed in Wisconsin! Why would you come up with that conclusion? Stop putting words in my mouth. The reason I don't agree with posting this kind of stuff on the newsgroups is because I know they are seen EVERYWHERE. The Amber Alerts inform us here if a LOCAL child is lost by reporting it over all LOCAL media (TV, radio, and newspapers). Highway traffic alert signs are even used around here to inform the public in emergency situations. Recently a small child was reported missing near here, and the city used the tornado warning sirens to make people turn on their radios or TVs to find out what was going on in an effort to locate the child. That kind of action is effective, without wasting the time of those who don't need to know about it. If a child disappears from my town, there is no need to tell everyone over in Osaki, Japan about it to have them start looking there. In the same way, I don't need to be informed that a child is missing from Portugal on the internet, when I am far from Portugal. Now if every lost child incident were reported on every internet newsgroup around the world, think of the millions of total hours wasted by individuals that can do absolutely nothing to help. It not only doesn't make any sense to report it there (worldwide) in the first place, but too many of these reports would also lead to a more apathetic society that gets tired of having their time wasted by things of which they can do nothing about. It wouldn't be long before most newsgroup readers set their filters to block out all those types of posts. Keep local issues local. Use the media and resources that are already out there. Posting to alt.binaries.pictures.radio is NOT an effective means of informing the Portuguese to look for this child. We do not need it here. If you really want to help, fly over to Portugal, and start tacking up posters on every street corner. If leads take you into other areas, go there. But please don't assume that everyone in the whole world should be informed of every incident. We have our own local issues to deal with, often ones in which we can make a difference. That is if we're not wasting our time reading 99.99+% of the reports that we have no control over. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"ian field" wrote in message ... "jim menning" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "jim menning" wrote in message Let me give my 2-cents worth to say I really oppose your suggestion. Madeleine McCann is only one of tens of thousands of kids that go missing each year. Her case is only special because her family can afford to pay for media hype. Although I can sympathize with her family, the likelihood that I will see their lost child running around in Grand Chute, Wisconsin is astronomical. There are many local issues that do deserve my attention, and even one second to click on the "Mark as read" button for Madeleine is a waste of my time, caused by some "do-gooder" who wants to further sensationalize the tragic story. I'd hesitate to see the floodgates open if any/all crime victims start to post to ALL binary (or text) groups looking for their kidnapped children, stolen artwork, or deadbeat daddies. This particular crime was in Portugal. Let the Portugal/European media and authorities handle it. No need to waste the time of millions of other people around the world. Let Portugal develop their own "Amber Alert" and look for the child that way. A waste of your time? My 2c states " You can never do enough to help any child no matter how rich their family is or how poor and I don't care what floodgates get opened" My time is worth less than any child. BH Yeah, I'm being very selfish. I'll get off my lazy ass, and start going door to door here, and I won't give up until I find her. C'mon, Brian. This is one of countless lost children around the world, and nowhere near where I am. In this particular case, for Madeleine McCann, there is nothing I can do. Now if you can provide me with pictures of the lost children in my area, that would be different. For a child lost in Portugal, let the locals there look for her. She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? You're sidestepping my whole point. It's not just this particular incident with Madeleine. It's the effect of posting every lost child incident to every binary group on Usenet (that you suggested) that we are talking about. Remember that? "This might seem a bit obvious - but why don't you obtain an electronic picture of her and post it to every binaries group you can think of? " But quite right - Europe should have its own version of codeamber. Putting more words in my mouth? Please be careful who you are responding to. I never mentioned "Codeamber". That was Michael. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
ian field wrote:
She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? Do you have a working matter transporter you haven't told us about? Have you looked at that website? It is very slow to load, has an audio file that comes blasting through the speakers, and only gives telephone numbers to contact the police departments. there are too many graphics, as well. They have shot themselves in both feet so many times its amazing that they are still upright. If you want help from people, you have to make it easy and convenient. If I did have some help to offer I couldn't contact them because I don't have long distance service, let alone international long distance so I would have no way to contact them. Their website is less than useless, its a huge waste of time. With a broadband connection it took over 20 minutes to download all the crap on the home page from that overloaded server. Advertising the website worldwide only adds to the overload and may even cause someone with useful information to give up. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message I don't think you get what Jim was saying. There are a lot of OTHER missing children who might be in his area, but this girl disappeared on the other side of the earth. What are the chances that he'll be within a 1000 miles of her, let alone see her? His time is better spent in cases where he DOES stand a chance of helping. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Understood. I agree. It is slim to none we here will see the child but hey even a slight chance is worth boging us down with extra spam in our newsgroups. I'm not trying to deliberatly knoch Jim. I understand his point but..... I hope you guys understand mine? BH |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"jim menning" wrote in message Yeah, I'm being very selfish. I'll get off my lazy ass, and start going door to door here, and I won't give up until I find her. C'mon, Brian. This is one of countless lost children around the world, and nowhere near where I am. In this particular case, for Madeleine McCann, there is nothing I can do. Now if you can provide me with pictures of the lost children in my area, that would be different. For a child lost in Portugal, let the locals there look for her. No I was not implying you were being selfish. Sorry about that. Yes the chances of any of us seeing her are 1/10000000000000 but I guess I'm a "do anything no matter what guy" when it comes to kids, Even if it's ridiculous. Sometimes ridiculous wins and wouldn't it be great if just one child made it back home because just one person went off the deep end into the ridiculous? That's my point and I think kids are a good reason to get ridiculous. BH |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"jim menning" wrote in message Putting more words in my mouth? Please be careful who you are responding to. I never mentioned "Codeamber". That was Michael. Jim as far as being logical and realistic, you win in any court of law. You don't have to defend yourself. Really. It's all Point of View and Opinion. No body is right. BH |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? Do you have a working matter transporter you haven't told us about? Have you looked at that website? It is very slow to load, has an audio file that comes blasting through the speakers, and only gives telephone numbers to contact the police departments. there are too many graphics, as well. They have shot themselves in both feet so many times its amazing that they are still upright. If you want help from people, you have to make it easy and convenient. If I did have some help to offer I couldn't contact them because I don't have long distance service, let alone international long distance so I would have no way to contact them. Their website is less than useless, its a huge waste of time. With a broadband connection it took over 20 minutes to download all the crap on the home page from that overloaded server. Advertising the website worldwide only adds to the overload and may even cause someone with useful information to give up. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Good points. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message I don't think you get what Jim was saying. There are a lot of OTHER missing children who might be in his area, but this girl disappeared on the other side of the earth. What are the chances that he'll be within a 1000 miles of her, let alone see her? His time is better spent in cases where he DOES stand a chance of helping. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Understood. I agree. It is slim to none we here will see the child but hey even a slight chance is worth boging us down with extra spam in our newsgroups. I'm not trying to deliberatly knoch Jim. I understand his point but..... I hope you guys understand mine? BH Let's add to the fact base that although we in the US tend to think that we are the only ones who use the internet (or at least the fact that it is the WORLD WIDE WEB (including USENET), there are likely people in Europe who MAY have a chance of spotting Madeleine who read these NG's. They are not just the purvue of people in Grand Chute, WI or Coral Gabels, FL or even Great Bear Lake, CA. Let's try to remember that before we talk about how much of a waste of our individual time it may be. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? Do you have a working matter transporter you haven't told us about? How did someone on a No-Fly list get on not one, but FOUR flights before finally driving across the border into the US? Not everyone is even noticed at imigration, let alone recognized. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
He'sDoneItAgain wrote:
ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" So, you think that a four year old child can buy a ticket for an international flight, and flies by herself to the US? A child that young has to travel with an escort, and unless she was unconscious you'd think she would be screaming her head off that she had been kidnapped. Enough of any medication to make her sleep, yet not kill her would wear off on a long international flight, long before the plane landed. Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( Are you really that dense? There was no procedure in place for reporting him, or CDC requirements to notify the Airlines so they had no reason to stop him. The last case like this was 40 years ago, so it slipped through the cracks when the new laws were written. Also, he's a ambulance chasing lawyer, so he would have known enough to slip through cracks that others can't. He should be stripped of his citizenship and deported to any place that needs a sleazy ambulance chaser. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? Do you have a working matter transporter you haven't told us about? How did someone on a No-Fly list get on not one, but FOUR flights before finally driving across the border into the US? Not everyone is even noticed at imigration, let alone recognized. According to the news, only his doctor told him not to travel, and there was no, no fly order, because there is no procedure in place. The last instance of a case like this was 40 years ago. According to the news stories, the laws are being changed, immediately to require doctors to report these type of cases, and a procedure to make the report. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
He'sDoneItAgain wrote: ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" So, you think that a four year old child can buy a ticket for an international flight, and flies by herself to the US? A child that young has to travel with an escort, and unless she was unconscious you'd think she would be screaming her head off that she had been kidnapped. Enough of any medication to make her sleep, yet not kill her would wear off on a long international flight, long before the plane landed. Well, Duh, who says they have to give it to her at the *beginning* of the flight? They wouldn't give it to her a half hour (or whatever) before landing? Or at the beginning and then at the end? Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( Are you really that dense? There was no procedure in place for reporting him, Or are *you* that dense? No procedures in place? Bzzzzt... Wrong! His name and passport number *was* in the border patrol computer. It *came up* when they scanned his passport at the point of entry. The border guard saw it on his computer. So, yes, there WAS a "procedure in place". However, the problem was that even though the "procedure" flagged the guy, the border guard decided "he didn't look sick" so let him go through. Gee, I didn't realize border guards were required to have a medical degree ( or that you could tell if someone was sick just by looking at them). Billions spent on Homeland "Security" and it still boils down to the rocket scientist manning the gate... :-( |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
He'sDoneItAgain wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: He'sDoneItAgain wrote: ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" So, you think that a four year old child can buy a ticket for an international flight, and flies by herself to the US? A child that young has to travel with an escort, and unless she was unconscious you'd think she would be screaming her head off that she had been kidnapped. Enough of any medication to make her sleep, yet not kill her would wear off on a long international flight, long before the plane landed. Well, Duh, who says they have to give it to her at the *beginning* of the flight? They wouldn't give it to her a half hour (or whatever) before landing? Or at the beginning and then at the end? So, they are going to carry a sedative that requires a medical professional to administer and security isn't going to see it? Yawn. Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( Are you really that dense? There was no procedure in place for reporting him, Or are *you* that dense? No procedures in place? Bzzzzt... Wrong! His name and passport number *was* in the border patrol computer. It *came up* when they scanned his passport at the point of entry. The border guard saw it on his computer. So, yes, there WAS a "procedure in place". However, the problem was that even though the "procedure" flagged the guy, the border guard decided "he didn't look sick" so let him go through. Gee, I didn't realize border guards were required to have a medical degree ( or that you could tell if someone was sick just by looking at them). Billions spent on Homeland "Security" and it still boils down to the rocket scientist manning the gate... :-( That's not what was reported on any news I've seen or heard. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... He'sDoneItAgain wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: He'sDoneItAgain wrote: ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" So, you think that a four year old child can buy a ticket for an international flight, and flies by herself to the US? A child that young has to travel with an escort, and unless she was unconscious you'd think she would be screaming her head off that she had been kidnapped. Enough of any medication to make her sleep, yet not kill her would wear off on a long international flight, long before the plane landed. Well, Duh, who says they have to give it to her at the *beginning* of the flight? They wouldn't give it to her a half hour (or whatever) before landing? Or at the beginning and then at the end? So, they are going to carry a sedative that requires a medical professional to administer and security isn't going to see it? Yawn. Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( Are you really that dense? There was no procedure in place for reporting him, Or are *you* that dense? No procedures in place? Bzzzzt... Wrong! His name and passport number *was* in the border patrol computer. It *came up* when they scanned his passport at the point of entry. The border guard saw it on his computer. So, yes, there WAS a "procedure in place". However, the problem was that even though the "procedure" flagged the guy, the border guard decided "he didn't look sick" so let him go through. Gee, I didn't realize border guards were required to have a medical degree ( or that you could tell if someone was sick just by looking at them). Billions spent on Homeland "Security" and it still boils down to the rocket scientist manning the gate... :-( That's not what was reported on any news I've seen or heard. -- Been the talk of CNN and Faux News for a couple days. Not only that, but they also reported that he was paged at at least one airport before he left Europe (hence the reason he opted to fly into Canada instead of the US). |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
He'sDoneItAgain wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: He'sDoneItAgain wrote: ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" So, you think that a four year old child can buy a ticket for an international flight, and flies by herself to the US? A child that young has to travel with an escort, and unless she was unconscious you'd think she would be screaming her head off that she had been kidnapped. Enough of any medication to make her sleep, yet not kill her would wear off on a long international flight, long before the plane landed. Well, Duh, who says they have to give it to her at the *beginning* of the flight? They wouldn't give it to her a half hour (or whatever) before landing? Or at the beginning and then at the end? So, they are going to carry a sedative that requires a medical professional to administer ....and who said it would require a "medical professional"? To swallow a pill or swallow a pill dissolved in a can of soda pop? and security isn't going to see it? Yawn. Remember, I suggested this could be given in flight half an hour before landing, so what "security"? The overworked stewardess is going to see a kid drinking a can of pop? Not too much rocket science required here. Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( Are you really that dense? There was no procedure in place for reporting him, Or are *you* that dense? No procedures in place? Bzzzzt... Wrong! His name and passport number *was* in the border patrol computer. It *came up* when they scanned his passport at the point of entry. The border guard saw it on his computer. So, yes, there WAS a "procedure in place". However, the problem was that even though the "procedure" flagged the guy, the border guard decided "he didn't look sick" so let him go through. Gee, I didn't realize border guards were required to have a medical degree ( or that you could tell if someone was sick just by looking at them). Billions spent on Homeland "Security" and it still boils down to the rocket scientist manning the gate... :-( That's not what was reported on any news I've seen or heard. Well, that's *exactly* what WAS reported on the NBC Nightly News (TV) and CBS Radio news here... 1) It WAS in the computer. 2) The computer DID pick it up. 3) The guard at the gate let him go anyway. Sounds like a "procedure in place" to me (at least items 1 and 2). That's the facts, Jack! In any event, for me at least, the thread has gone on long enough. My apologies to the group for the OT. |
Help finding Madeleine McCann - 4 years old
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... He'sDoneItAgain wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: He'sDoneItAgain wrote: ian field wrote: She probably isn't still in Portugal, she could be anyplace by now - can you guarantee the US isn't where she's been taken? Michael A. Terrell wrote: Don't you think that any airport, port or train station in the area is on the lookout for her? How would she have made it to the US? You ask "How would she have made it to the US?" So, you think that a four year old child can buy a ticket for an international flight, and flies by herself to the US? A child that young has to travel with an escort, and unless she was unconscious you'd think she would be screaming her head off that she had been kidnapped. Enough of any medication to make her sleep, yet not kill her would wear off on a long international flight, long before the plane landed. Well, Duh, who says they have to give it to her at the *beginning* of the flight? They wouldn't give it to her a half hour (or whatever) before landing? Or at the beginning and then at the end? So, they are going to carry a sedative that requires a medical professional to administer and security isn't going to see it? Yawn. Uh, maybe the same way the TB guy got into the country--right past those ace border guards. :-( Are you really that dense? There was no procedure in place for reporting him, Or are *you* that dense? No procedures in place? Bzzzzt... Wrong! His name and passport number *was* in the border patrol computer. It *came up* when they scanned his passport at the point of entry. The border guard saw it on his computer. So, yes, there WAS a "procedure in place". However, the problem was that even though the "procedure" flagged the guy, the border guard decided "he didn't look sick" so let him go through. Gee, I didn't realize border guards were required to have a medical degree ( or that you could tell if someone was sick just by looking at them). Billions spent on Homeland "Security" and it still boils down to the rocket scientist manning the gate... :-( That's not what was reported on any news I've seen or heard. -- Been the talk of CNN and Faux News for a couple days. Not only that, but they also reported that he was paged at at least one airport before he left Europe (hence the reason he opted to fly into Canada instead of the US). CNN and Fox news is not available to me, here at home. I can't. and wouldn't pay almost 30 dollars a month more to see them, if I had the money. They have droned on continually about it on CBS and ABC news. Someone from the CDC made a statement that there was no working procedure in place to have legally stopped him, but they were working to prevent it from happening again. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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