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why not deal with the eal issue
an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) |
why not deal with the real issue
Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now |
why not deal with the real issue
an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter? The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the general way of applying for it? Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant.. |
why not deal with the real issue
Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter? The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the general way of applying for it? Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant.. having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those with bad attiudes than a code test not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free (the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so this might escape you I should have been clearer nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the flamers and trolls had driven them off |
why not deal with the real issue
an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything.... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter? The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the general way of applying for it? Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant.. having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those with bad attiudes than a code test not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free (the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so this might escape you I should have been clearer nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the flamers and trolls had driven them off Yep, im british. I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the retards who clog todays airwaves... And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest... |
why not deal with the real issue
Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter? The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the general way of applying for it? Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant.. having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those with bad attiudes than a code test not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free (the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so this might escape you I should have been clearer nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the flamers and trolls had driven them off Yep, im british. I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the retards who clog todays airwaves... And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest... indeed but you can't discuss any changes as I suspect you have ntoiced and for that matter I have never seen why we have to have all of us geting our license by the same path indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while others would takerigourous test and no fees |
why not deal with the real issue
an Old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Bakb0ne wrote: an old friend wrote: Douche Bag wrote: IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod? wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything... They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be saying that you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves... Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh right) well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter? The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the general way of applying for it? Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant.. having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those with bad attiudes than a code test not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free (the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so this might escape you I should have been clearer nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the flamers and trolls had driven them off Yep, im british. I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the retards who clog todays airwaves... And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest... indeed but you can't discuss any changes as I suspect you have ntoiced and for that matter I have never seen why we have to have all of us geting our license by the same path indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while others would takerigourous test and no fees So basically ur saying that you should be able to either 1. Pay for your license and Take a beginner test (to prove your competent) or 2. Take a Intermediate Test and get free license after passing If this is what you mean, then i can see your logic and i would fully support a system like this... Only problem is that just like Slow Code and the other trolls who try to change the Ham world, we wouldnt be able to do anything either, its down to the corporations, not us little people... |
Dumbing down licensing will just let in people that really don't want to be hams.
I have been into Shortwave and Police communications since the days of
putting crystals into my 8 channel regency scanner from Montgomery Wards. I am 41, college educated, and technically savy. Today I am going to go and take my license to be a certified Technician no code ham. So far every test I have taken online I have achieved a passing score without doing any studying other that the knowledge I have accumulated over the past 30 years of being a shortwave, military comm, and police comm listener. I hope that others in the hobby do not have the same attitude that you possess and are favorable to me being new to the hobby (I am a bit shy out the gate but warm up quickly). The fact that the fcc has made this test so much more attainable is a good thing because it invites those (like myself) who decide to join this hobby as a result of the test being passable with a basic understanding of the radio spectrum and laws of using the spectrum for which you are licensed to use. More people available to be a part of the hobby is a good thing. So why would you want to try to weed them out?? Almost sounds like you are being a bit of a radio snob. Just my 2 pennies worth. Keith On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:50:37 GMT, Slow Code wrote: So why do it? SC |
Dumbing down licensing will just let in people that really don't want to be hams.
wrote in message ... I have been into Shortwave and Police communications since the days of putting crystals into my 8 channel regency scanner from Montgomery Wards. I am 41, college educated, and technically savy. Today I am going to go and take my license to be a certified Technician no code ham. So far every test I have taken online I have achieved a passing score without doing any studying other that the knowledge I have accumulated over the past 30 years of being a shortwave, military comm, and police comm listener. I hope that others in the hobby do not have the same attitude that you possess and are favorable to me being new to the hobby (I am a bit shy out the gate but warm up quickly). The fact that the fcc has made this test so much more attainable is a good thing because it invites those (like myself) who decide to join this hobby as a result of the test being passable with a basic understanding of the radio spectrum and laws of using the spectrum for which you are licensed to use. More people available to be a part of the hobby is a good thing. So why would you want to try to weed them out?? Almost sounds like you are being a bit of a radio snob. Just my 2 pennies worth. Keith It sounds like you want to be a ham so you will be welcome. The point that some people are trying to make is that attracting people who do not want to be hams is rather pointless. They'll be talked into getting a license by some overzealous person telling them how easy it is and then will end up not participating because they don't have an interest in it. Dee, N8UZE |
Dumbing down licensing will just let in people that really don't want to be hams.
Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message ... I have been into Shortwave and Police communications since the days of Just my 2 pennies worth. Keith It sounds like you want to be a ham so you will be welcome. not by you most likely if he expresses an opinion you don't like The point that some people are trying to make is that attracting people who do not want to be hams is rather pointless. is that the point? then you are worng It far from pointless although it is less valueble than atracting and retaining those that realy want to be hams They'll be talked into getting a license by some overzealous person telling them how easy it is and then will end up not participating because they don't have an interest in it. Thus pseaks Dee Flint Like Robeson a supreme judge of other people as I have an elitist bitch to the original poster you find these number they can not be escaped but they are not the majority Dee, N8UZE |
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