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Not satisfied with just outlawing cb and ham radios which use hand-
held microphones, Canada has now outlawed hands-free ham radio by
hams, and hands-free cb by cbers, yet still allows two-way radio use
by taxi cab drivers, school-bus drivers, and businesses, police,
etcetera even though all those people have MUCH LESS training in
operating a two-way radio than hams do.

such as almost none, if not none, although it is usually none.

even low-class redneck cbers know more about how to properly use a
radio then those people do.

yet the only ones allowed to use it are the ones with little or no
training while the ones not allowed to use it ae the ones with the
proper training in how to use it.

If the police had the proper training, then they would not be
arresting people under phony radio laws which they claim is the actual
law.

so that alone is proof the police do not have the proper training in
howw to properly use a two-way radio since they do not even know the
radio laws that they are trying to enforce, and therefore should also
be prohibited from using a two-way mobile radio if the cbers and hams,
which have the actual training as it is required to get their ham
raadio license also are not allowed to operate their two-way radios
mobile.



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On 11/7/11 9:39 AM, radioguy wrote:
Not satisfied with just outlawing cb and ham radios which use hand-
held microphones, Canada has now outlawed hands-free ham radio by
hams, and hands-free cb by cbers, yet still allows two-way radio use
by taxi cab drivers, school-bus drivers, and businesses, police,
etcetera even though all those people have MUCH LESS training in
operating a two-way radio than hams do.

such as almost none, if not none, although it is usually none.

even low-class redneck cbers know more about how to properly use a
radio then those people do.

yet the only ones allowed to use it are the ones with little or no
training while the ones not allowed to use it ae the ones with the
proper training in how to use it.

If the police had the proper training, then they would not be
arresting people under phony radio laws which they claim is the actual
law.

so that alone is proof the police do not have the proper training in
howw to properly use a two-way radio since they do not even know the
radio laws that they are trying to enforce, and therefore should also
be prohibited from using a two-way mobile radio if the cbers and hams,
which have the actual training as it is required to get their ham
raadio license also are not allowed to operate their two-way radios
mobile.


Donkey boner!

- J.
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:39:54 -0800 (PST), radioguy wrote:

Not satisfied with just outlawing cb and ham radios which use hand-
held microphones, Canada has now outlawed hands-free ham radio by
hams, and hands-free cb by cbers, yet still allows two-way radio use
by taxi cab drivers, school-bus drivers, and businesses, police,
etcetera even though all those people have MUCH LESS training in
operating a two-way radio than hams do.

such as almost none, if not none, although it is usually none.

even low-class redneck cbers know more about how to properly use a
radio then those people do.

yet the only ones allowed to use it are the ones with little or no
training while the ones not allowed to use it ae the ones with the
proper training in how to use it.

If the police had the proper training, then they would not be
arresting people under phony radio laws which they claim is the actual
law.

so that alone is proof the police do not have the proper training in
howw to properly use a two-way radio since they do not even know the
radio laws that they are trying to enforce, and therefore should also
be prohibited from using a two-way mobile radio if the cbers and hams,
which have the actual training as it is required to get their ham
raadio license also are not allowed to operate their two-way radios
mobile.


Not quite.
The Ontario law is requiring users of various devices to be "hands free" by
2012.
Basically, no mic in the hand.

It is not all of Canada, just Ontario.
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On 11/7/11 11:13 AM, meh wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:19:18 -0800, John wrote:

On 11/7/11 9:39 AM, radioguy wrote:


Donkey boner!


If you were SMART, you'd have this troll filtered out.


But I want to see *ALL* of Usenet! With quality conversation and debate
like this, missing out on even one entertaining and informative post is
something I just couldn't bear to live with!

Also, ANY such claim with NO valid link is always suspect.


No ****, really? Well, glad you cleared that one up for us - the
thought had never occurred to me!

- J.
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On 11/7/11 1:52 PM, meh wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:28:08 -0800, John wrote:

No ****, really? Well, glad you cleared that one up for us - the
thought had never occurred to me!


Yeah, obviously.


Incidentally, I've got a bridge for sale and it's going cheap. Contact
me via email for details.

- J.



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richard wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:39:54 -0800 (PST), radioguy wrote:

Not satisfied with just outlawing cb and ham radios which use hand-
held microphones, Canada has now outlawed hands-free ham radio by
hams, and hands-free cb by cbers, yet still allows two-way radio use
by taxi cab drivers, school-bus drivers, and businesses, police,
etcetera even though all those people have MUCH LESS training in
operating a two-way radio than hams do.

such as almost none, if not none, although it is usually none.

even low-class redneck cbers know more about how to properly use a
radio then those people do.

yet the only ones allowed to use it are the ones with little or no
training while the ones not allowed to use it ae the ones with the
proper training in how to use it.

If the police had the proper training, then they would not be
arresting people under phony radio laws which they claim is the
actual law.

so that alone is proof the police do not have the proper training in
howw to properly use a two-way radio since they do not even know the
radio laws that they are trying to enforce, and therefore should also
be prohibited from using a two-way mobile radio if the cbers and
hams, which have the actual training as it is required to get their
ham raadio license also are not allowed to operate their two-way
radios mobile.


Not quite.
The Ontario law is requiring users of various devices to be "hands
free" by 2012.
Basically, no mic in the hand.

It is not all of Canada, just Ontario.


Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?

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"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.


Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a law.
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"richard" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know
whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.


Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a law.


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Ach... I thought I had mentioned the state. It was Wyoming, and they
certainly did have such a law. I remember the headache when I tried to
register my first car there. I ended up using a pocket transistor radio on
the dash rather than pay the extra money (I was only 18, and didn't have a
lot of disposable income at the time..

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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKoekfcC9y0

Musst be yours huh radioguy?
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