"Dennis Kaylor" wrote:

what i dont understand is if you guys
dont like the deed restrictions you are
legally free not to sign the deed and
move to another area why should the
federal government step in and tell
some city or housing community that
the CONTRACT you knowingly
and willing signed is worthless (snip)


Dennis, either you don't live in a town like this or CC&Rs simply haven't
reached your community yet. The major industry in this town is tourism.
Because of that, any house built within the last twenty years has a CC&R
antenna restriction. Even worse, real estate agencies, hoping to cash in on
the tourist trade, have purchased most of the older properties, adding CC&Rs
antenna restrictions to those. At this point, unless one is willing to move
twenty to thirty miles outside the area, CC&Rs antenna restrictions have
become an almost inescapable fact of life. Perhaps you consider that
acceptable. However, I don't happen to think people should have to move
miles away from work, schools, or shopping, just to have an antenna. And,
indeed, many people are not going to do so - which means they will simply
have to give up radio as a hobby or recreation instead.


you guys and your wives all want the
nice classy neighborhoods and gated
communities with the fine trimmed lawns
and lexus in every driveway but you
think your special cause you want to
have an outside antenna (snip)


Obviously CC&R antenna restrictions haven't reached your community yet.
We're not just talking about gated communities or luxury properties. In this
area, these restrictions can be found on even the cheapest properties.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

"Ed Price" wrote:

It doesn't change anything you said. I posted
my comments to amplify and clarify your (and
earlier poster's) comments, not as a refutation.
Try not to view everything as a challenge.


Perhaps I did respond defensively, but your "read the rest of the ruling"
comment suggested there was something in the rest of the ruling which should
have my attention (a conflict with what I wrote, perhaps). But, as stated, I
saw no conflict (or anything else that would specifically modify what I
wrote). Regardless, no big deal - a simple misunderstanding. It happens.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

Ralph Mowery wrote:

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to
weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph, just what is your ham call???

KU4PT and I have been a ham for over 30 years.

I don't have a gigantic tower beacuse I am on a small lot and also don't
have the money to put up one like I would like to have. I do have a 40 foot
tower and also a shorter ,maybe about 12 ot 15 feet, with my OSCAR antennas
on them. I just installed two more 20 feet towers with a 10 foot pipe on
them about 140 feet apart to hold up an 80 meter dipole. No trees so to
speak of in the yard.

Anytime I hear that statement I just right of the person saying it as an
idiot. I haven't been wrong on that one yet.


"WilleeCue" wrote in message
.. .
The great American spoof is "home ownership".
If you ever think you really "own" your home just stop paying money for it
and see what happens!

Looking at his Austin, Texas newsgroup header, he's probably making a point
about the extremely high property taxes they have there. They don't have a
state income tax in Texas, but they really sock it to property owners.

Even when your mortgage is paid off, those taxes will continue (and probably
increase).

-- Stinger

"CW" wrote in message
news:lhcxb.237017$ao4.847118@attbi_s51...
Anytime I hear that statement I just right of the person saying it as an
idiot. I haven't been wrong on that one yet.


"WilleeCue" wrote in message
.. .
The great American spoof is "home ownership".
If you ever think you really "own" your home just stop paying money for
it
and see what happens!

wrote in message ...
Thank you.... .......

I am moving into a housing plan with such antenna restrictions. But
what housing plan doesn't have them. There is always someone trying to
tell some else how to live their lives, or knows what's best for you.

You people amaze me. If you don't like covenants, then don't move into the
neighborhood. The whole reason for the rules are to keep everything in
check. Something tells me that neither of you would wants someone putting
up some rusted out, 1970s RV and using it as a shed if the rules made that
'illegal'

"SouthDakotaRadio" wrote in message
...
You don't get it. In many areas, ALL desirable properties are in deed
restricted developments. The only alternative is to live in the ghetto
with
all the pimps, gang bangers, drug dealers, and other criminals.

Not much of a "choice", is it?

There are many places/homes in certain areas in and around Indy that do not
have restrictions. The problem, everyone seems to want to live 5 miles from
work, in a neighborhood they want to live in, in a home style they just have
to have, etc etc. Shelby county is just to the southeast of Indy. It's the
most rural county around Indy. Many people getting 3-5 acre pieces of land
and building nice homes on them. They are free to do as they wish. Older
homes with 1 acre of land are going for $100 to $120K. There is almost
always a choice, even if it means moving to a new state/city. Fact is many
of my friends want to live a certain way. If we allow the hams or SW radio
folks to violate the rules, then why the hell should I get blasted for
putting up a 1992 Honda on blocks and leave it sit on the driveway for
months? For every violation, the violator has the same story: "I work so
much I can't work on my car, so it has to sit for a few months. The only
other place with no rules is the ghetto, I should have to live there just to
do my own repair work."

"WilleeCue" wrote in message
.. .

The great American spoof is "home ownership".
If you ever think you really "own" your home just stop paying money for it
and see what happens!

Plenty of homes are affordable, but like someone here said something like:
"Why should people have to live miles from shopping, schools, etc." I have
a cousin who is married and a best friend who is married. Both paid $140K
for their homes. One group purchased a home in the 'elite' northside of
Indy, the others on the eastside. Both live in the burb counties. Both
have great public schools. The eastside doesn't have the restaurants,
shopping, etc. You have to drive 20 miles to get to that. The difference:
One has a very small yard and lives in a vinyl village. The other has
almost an acre and all brick. One lives 5 miles from work, the other lives
10 and 20 (wife and husband distances). One pays less property tax. It's
all about choices. If you just have to live where the stores, restaurants,
super rich, etc live and you buy a home that has a mortgage that makes you
live pay check to pay check...yea, you won't have much. If you make due
with a home built in 1950 or earlier that is in good shape (oh the horror of
not having a 'new' home that some of my friends would fear), you won't be
hurting. I plan on getting a home in 2-3 months. I have seen some decent
homes for $85-$90K. They are 4-6 miles from half million dollar homes. 2
miles from schools and shopping. Their downside: They are 40 some years old
and in good shape. Now in places like California---get out before the great
burn off starts.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

I can understand where people have a right to not want someone storing a
dozen rusty cars on their front lawn, or allowing their grass to get 3'
tall.. but as far as antennas, etc.. they have no business telling a
homeowner what to do. It's not right that they should be telling people
what color they can paint their house, what kind of plants or animals they
can or cannot have, etc..

Then why the hell is it 'right' that they tell your neighbor they can't have
12 rusty cars in their yard? If you want to live without rules, get an
older farm house or something. Don't move into a neighborhood and then
complain about the rules you disagree with.

"SouthDakotaRadio" wrote in message
...

"Community" is 7/9 of "COMMUNISM." Don't forget that!

I love that! However, when talking about property restrictions...we are
talking more of capitalism. No one is forced to make people live in this
area. Just their desire to be in a certain spot for whatever reason
(schools, 3 miles from work, the elite live in the county, etc etc).