RF-Hacker fun with the drive-thru window
 

"Dave Hall" wrote:

If I was standing on the street, and
you walked up to me, are you not
permitted to make whatever
comment you see fit? There is this
thing called the 1st amendment......
So why should it be any different
through a radio? (snip)


There are limits to free speech, Dave. In this case, the answer would be
no if the comments were slanderous, defamatory, racist, or done in a
threatening or harassing manner. Making unwelcomed comments about a person's
appearence (especially when transmitted over the public airways) could be
considered harassment, and I doubt the First Amendment would protect such
actions.


That depends. If the business was
employing FCC part 15 radio gear,
then they can expect no protection
from interference. (snip)


That addresses normal interference, not the intentional act of malicious
interference. Malicious interference is a violation of FCC rules. And, in
case you're wondering, the First Amendment would not protect a person here
either - the person would not be charged for what was said, but for doing so
in a manner (using equipment, etc) which violates FCC rules.


Maybe. I guess it all depends on
the level of malice and the effect
that the disruptions had. From
what I've heard, the interference
consisted mostly of random
insulting comments, and not
necessarily jamming of the system
in a way that would prevent it
from working.


This brings another issue into question. Some states have laws to protect
the normal operations of a business - to prevent malicious interference with
that. It is also possible these laws, if available, might come into play
here.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

In article , Dave Hall
writes:

I don't know all the pertinent details of this issue. But it's also
possible that the "drive thru" system which was "hacked" ( I hate
using computer terms to describe radio actions) was on the older 154
Mhz frequency band. One of those drive thru frequencies, in common use
in my area, is now part of the MURS allocation. Since MURS radios are
legal to be used, the only possible infraction that the FCC could
bring in this case, would be deliberate interference.

Only true if Burger King was using a MURS frequency, which I doubt. All the
Burger Kings I have found (those which have not yet migrated to 900Mhz) are on
154.515 or 154.540Mhz.

Neither of these are MURS frequencies. Both are licensed business radio
service frequencies.

"Dinque Dau" wrote:

Aw, come on. Lighten up. This thread is
about frequencies used by fast food
establishments and "what if". Leave it
to a couple of guys to take it to the next
"what if" level, i.e. legal repercussions
and ensuing arguments between egos.
Give it a rest, guys.


I've been reading this thread since the very beginning and issues of
legality were raised very early in the discussion. And, as far as I can see,
our discussion of the legal issues does not hinder your ability to discuss
whatever you want about this situation. So I have to respond with a request
for you to "lighten up" - you discuss what you want and we'll do the same.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

(SamHuiFan) wrote:
"Roger Gt" wrote in message
om...
"Joe Prion" wrote in message
"kiebassa 20" wrote in message
from:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...ws.latestheadl
ines

I can't believe they may be prosecuted if they're caught. They are
preventing people from becoming more obese and getting heart attacks,
high cholesterol, high blood pressure and mad cow disease. They are
true
heroes,
not criminals.

Like Murderers who prevent people from suffering the effects of old
age? True Heroes all!

Yeah, sure!

You are dense as a doornail. You would make an awesome target of such
a prank. Hope to see you at the drive-through soon Dork.

You're right, he'd jump out of his skin if the drive thru speaker
asked him to "order something besides a whopper this time, lard-ass".

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
. ..
Blow me Roger...silly back yard lawyer. Send everything you see on usenet
to
the FBI. Class(or in your case classless clown)


I always report a crime, or a person instigating commission of a crime.
It is my duty as a member of the militia, and as a citizen of the US.

Your response is typical of what I would expect from the inmates of a
prison.

I'm sure you can explain it to a Judge!

your full of crap Roger....i'm not intimidated by your "threats" you fossil.
go play with others that might be frightened by you. *I* have no reason to
fear you in the least :) You just annoy people..kinda like a pimple on one's
ass.
"Roger Gt" wrote in message
m...

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
. ..
Blow me Roger...silly back yard lawyer. Send everything you see on
usenet
to
the FBI. Class(or in your case classless clown)


I always report a crime, or a person instigating commission of a crime.
It is my duty as a member of the militia, and as a citizen of the US.

Your response is typical of what I would expect from the inmates of a
prison.

I'm sure you can explain it to a Judge!

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
m...
your full of crap Roger....i'm not intimidated by your "threats" you
fossil.
go play with others that might be frightened by you. *I* have no reason to
fear you in the least :) You just annoy people..kinda like a pimple on
one's
ass.
"Roger Gt" wrote in message
m...

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
. ..
Blow me Roger...silly back yard lawyer. Send everything you see on
usenet
to
the FBI. Class(or in your case classless clown)

I always report a crime, or a person instigating commission of a crime.
It is my duty as a member of the militia, and as a citizen of the US.

Your response is typical of what I would expect from the inmates of a
prison.

I'm sure you can explain it to a Judge!

I made no threat, and did not try to frighten.
Always remember an individual is allways responsible for the effects of what
they say in public.
Your continued responses will also be forwarded to the FBI, showing a total
lack of concern for the law!

Have a nice day!
Cheers!

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
m...
snipped the BS

You actually expect ME to go away?

Sorry!

But the venom in the response said I hit a nerve!
You must have something to hide!

Hit a nerve? yeah...I'm sick and tired of you old duffers that brag about
what they did 50 years ago.If your looking for praise, keep looking. You
went out with cloth covered wires and downdraft carburators. I don't have a
damn thing to hide, including your stupid bragging, and what your going to
send to the FBI.
Roger..your a has been, old news, tolerated because we have to (to some
extent).You have nothing *GOOD* to share, no information to exchange except
your poor demo of dominance.I don't want to hear from an old duffer like
you. Times have changed, step into the 21st century. Your still driving a
'53 bel-air and watching a Muntz TV. Your nothing more than a pimple on ones
ass there Roger, squeeze your head and your gone.
No go watch the neighbors Mr. militia man, call the FBI daily and live in
the past. Oh yeah....I hear Walgreens has "Depends" on sale and that they
are the supersize...hold over 2 pounds of crap! sounds like it fits the bill
for you since you try to sling it (like monkeys do)...sleep well there
Roger, sleep long..sleep all day you old buzzard....Eddie
"Roger Gt" wrote in message
m...

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
m...
snipped the BS

You actually expect ME to go away?

Sorry!

But the venom in the response said I hit a nerve!
You must have something to hide!

"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
...
Hit a nerve? yeah...

Thanks for the confirmation.