CL schrieb:

I'm not saying I "disagree" - though I've never fully gotten into the design
basics/performance, but "I" didn't "design" them - I only sell them!

Bad enough that you believe in the sheet (=****) of the manufacturer. A
professional seller you should know the technical basics on the products
he sells.
Never(!) believe in the "specs" a manufacturer gives, without some
verification of plausibility on it. Name these "broadband groundplane"
antennas JUNK and send them back to the manufacturer. Or keep them on
1/20 of the price and sell them as 'groundplane with gain some*where*
between 25 and 1300Mhz' at 1/10 of the original price. This should
satisfy everybody but the manufacturer :-)

regards,
Volker

Eh, I did say I had tried a "previous" version of the ground plane. It did
"seem" to work ok. At that time, I didn't have 1/4 of the equipment I now
have. I've not really had time or space to prove anything in or out. I'm
preparing to move to a new location, then I can play all I want. More room
for antennas and so on. Here, there hasn't been room for much of anything.
No, I do "not" agree with all they write. There is always room for
disagreement. I suppose it comes down to the point of IF that is the only
product out there, and you need it, what choice do you have ESPECIALLY if
you're not capable of building antennas like some of us are? Not much of a
choice from that perspective. It's up to the individual. I'm not "pushing"
anything. If they want to buy - they will, if not - so be it! That is their
choice. CL.

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
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CL schrieb:

I'm not saying I "disagree" - though I've never fully gotten into the
design
basics/performance, but "I" didn't "design" them - I only sell them!

Bad enough that you believe in the sheet (=****) of the manufacturer. A
professional seller you should know the technical basics on the products
he sells.
Never(!) believe in the "specs" a manufacturer gives, without some
verification of plausibility on it. Name these "broadband groundplane"
antennas JUNK and send them back to the manufacturer. Or keep them on
1/20 of the price and sell them as 'groundplane with gain some*where*
between 25 and 1300Mhz' at 1/10 of the original price. This should
satisfy everybody but the manufacturer :-)

regards,
Volker

CL schrieb:

Eh, I did say I had tried a "previous" version of the ground plane. It did
"seem" to work ok. At that time, I didn't have 1/4 of the equipment I now
have.

Your initial posting implied (to me) that you are a professional seller
of this antennas (and maybe other equipment).
Sorry when I was wrong. As a "normal user" you may have trusted the
manufacturers "promises".

regards,
Volker

I DO handle equipment (seller) but though I may tend to agree with you in
your point, if that equipment is the only game in town and someone is in
need, what are they going to have a choice of? Some antennas do work better
than others. That is a given. I've just not had space to experiment on my
own to find out for my self - their claims. Very little room here for
antennas and most of my area is all aluminum siding, high voltage lines and
no way to go above it or away from it. "I" am not "pushing" any particular
product. I merely mentioned I have them. I did say a previous customer had
good results with the discone model. So, that is as far as I'm going. As I
said, if someone wants to buy - ok, if not, that is ok too. I'm a bit more
educated than the average RS sales person, but I am NOT going to get into a
war of technicalities over designs "I" had nothing to do with. I don't have
time for that. CL

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
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CL schrieb:

Eh, I did say I had tried a "previous" version of the ground plane. It
did
"seem" to work ok. At that time, I didn't have 1/4 of the equipment I
now
have.

Your initial posting implied (to me) that you are a professional seller
of this antennas (and maybe other equipment).
Sorry when I was wrong. As a "normal user" you may have trusted the
manufacturers "promises".

regards,
Volker