As "I" had stated, if those antennas are the only game in town and people
are wanting to buy them, not knowing how to make one, what choice is left?
Though I can build one myself and have, most people won't want a "homemade"
antenna. SO...... No antenna is "perfect". Antennas for the most part are
tested in a set of conditions usually fixed, whereas their use out side
those conditions can vary greatly. Type of cable, length, height of
installation, surroundings, etc... NO antenna can work "as" the factory
suggests, even if there are good points to the antenna. You're setting the
bar way too high. If you've got ideas for better antennas, I'm sure they'd
love to hear from you. CL.

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


Dwight Stewart schrieb:

... Few antennas can beat the utter bandwidth of
a discone and the ground plane is ideal where an even less intrusive
antenna
is desired.


Giving a specification(!) on a groundplane from 25-100Mhz is taking a
customer for a ride. An antenna specified(!) for a frequency *range*
implies at least that it has gain over an isotropic radiator wich is
simply not true for a groundplane "25-1000Mhz".
It would be a different thing in konjunktion with some active elctronics
-wich is not the case-.
And yes, you can have very much success on a simple antenna design. A
CB-whip with top loading coil (in europe known as DV27S -length of
1.4mtr-) is known to be a good performer on _some_ "interesting"
frequency ranges. It works on the same principle like the mentioned
groundplane when installed on a metal sheet ...at a fraction of cost
(less than 10EUR/ 13US$).

Volker

CL schrieb:

You're setting the bar way too high.

No. But of course it is not _your_ fault that the 'Antenna Specialist
MONR-31' CAN not meet the specs.

If you've got ideas for better antennas, I'm sure they'd
love to hear from you. CL.

As I already stated. This Antenna is good for _some_ frequency *ranges*.
Bad enough, the manufacturer(!) does not tell it in the specs.
There are _very_ few designs for passive omnidirectional broadband
antennas. But all of theem need relatively much of space. Physics can
not be cheated.
Not better in performance the CB-antenna I mentioned works nearly equal
for a much better value.

Volker

Well, don't shoot the messenger.. I don't design them, I sell them. And, as
I also said, "I've" got an "older" ground plane and it works fine. I've sold
the discone model with no complaints. Soo............. I'd be happy to sell
your versions, if you have any! CL

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


CL schrieb:

You're setting the bar way too high.

No. But of course it is not _your_ fault that the 'Antenna Specialist
MONR-31' CAN not meet the specs.

If you've got ideas for better antennas, I'm sure they'd
love to hear from you. CL.

As I already stated. This Antenna is good for _some_ frequency *ranges*.
Bad enough, the manufacturer(!) does not tell it in the specs.
There are _very_ few designs for passive omnidirectional broadband
antennas. But all of theem need relatively much of space. Physics can
not be cheated.
Not better in performance the CB-antenna I mentioned works nearly equal
for a much better value.

Volker

CL ...

^ Well, don't shoot the messenger.. I don't design them, I sell them.

If you sell them then you aren't merely a messenger.

Frank

Whatever..... I am only saying "I" do NOT have ANYTHING to do with the way
they are designed OR their performance. Same with any antenna you'd buy
through Radio Shack. You wouldn't bitch the salesman out because the antenna
didn't work before you even tried it or even if you had no intentions of
buying it. I handle the items in my shop. As I always say, if you want to
buy, fine! If not, that is fine too. I'm not shoving anything down anyone's
throat or up their ass. If you don't like the antennas, do not buy them! CL

"Frank" wrote in message
news:01c3ff0e$af6b0f80$0125250a@xzqvvztdbaerlvxw.. .
CL ...

^ Well, don't shoot the messenger.. I don't design them, I sell them.

If you sell them then you aren't merely a messenger.

Frank

Enough already! First it was price police now we have antnna police. Has
anybody heard oc "caveat emptor"! Now pleas leave it alone and move on!

Tim

"CL" wrote in message
...
Whatever..... I am only saying "I" do NOT have ANYTHING to do with the way
they are designed OR their performance. Same with any antenna you'd buy
through Radio Shack. You wouldn't bitch the salesman out because the
antenna
didn't work before you even tried it or even if you had no intentions of
buying it. I handle the items in my shop. As I always say, if you want to
buy, fine! If not, that is fine too. I'm not shoving anything down
anyone's
throat or up their ass. If you don't like the antennas, do not buy them!
CL

"Frank" wrote in message
news:01c3ff0e$af6b0f80$0125250a@xzqvvztdbaerlvxw.. .
CL ...

^ Well, don't shoot the messenger.. I don't design them, I sell them.

If you sell them then you aren't merely a messenger.

Frank

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:50:25 GMT, "Tim ODonnell"
disturbed the phosphur particles on my
screen with the following:

Enough already! First it was price police now we have antnna police. Has
anybody heard oc "caveat emptor"! Now pleas leave it alone and move on!

It's winter.
They're getting cranky because they can't get out and play.



(Never understood why some people top post.
It's kinda like the answer prior to the question.)