The police radar guns work off the doppler affect (for radar guns) or
the change in distance between pulses for lidar. My question is how
they account for angle, can a police officer who is at a 87 degree
angle correctly measure your speed? It should only work going straight
at or away from. Also, do the police always have their gun on?
Because it detects driving police cars who arn't shooting radar to my
visibility, does that just mean that the vehicle has an installed
radar gun constantly giving speeds?. And how would that account for
angle? If you know of a good website I can read please tell me.

Eric wrote:

The police radar guns work off the doppler affect (for radar guns) or
the change in distance between pulses for lidar. My question is how
they account for angle, can a police officer who is at a 87 degree
angle correctly measure your speed?

This is so close to being perpendicular I doubt a radar would show any
speed at all.


It should only work going straight
at or away from.

Police radar works on the premise of relative motion. The object being
tracked and the radar unit must be moving towards or away from each other.

Also, do the police always have their gun on?

Depends. Some officers leave them on constantly. Some others use the
"hold" feature (turning of the transmitter)

Because it detects driving police cars who arn't shooting radar to my
visibility, does that just mean that the vehicle has an installed
radar gun constantly giving speeds?


I don't know what you are asking here.

.. And how would that account for
angle? If you know of a good website I can read please tell me.

Police radar relies on relative motion to read the speed. Either the
radar must be moving towards or away from the object or the object must
be moving towards or away from the radar. If the object being checked
is perpendicular to the radar, it will not show a speed. The greater
the angle to the radar (closer to perpendicular), the less the speed
will be shown.

I am speaking strictly about a radar that is operated in the "stationary
only" mode and not same or opposite direction moving radar, there are
other issues involved with those modes.


--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.

On 26 Apr 2004 09:49:25 -0700, (Eric) wrote:

The police radar guns work off the doppler affect (for radar guns) or
the change in distance between pulses for lidar. My question is how
they account for angle, can a police officer who is at a 87 degree
angle correctly measure your speed?

Look up the 'cosine effect' in relation to traffic radar.

No, he cannot *accurately* measure your speed unless you're directly
in line with him, however errors from radar at an angle are all in
favor of the motorist, so there's no point arguing in court. The
officer's radar gun will read a lower speed than you were going unless
you are traveling straight towards him or straight away.

It should only work going straight at or away from.

Right. But again, errors are in favor of the motorist.

And, frankly, it doesn't matter. The officer's claim and educated
opinion based on experience and training is what matters, especially
in court. The radar is only a tool. A competent police officer can
glance at you driving by and know your speed within a small margin.
The radar just confirms it.

Also, do the police always have their gun on?

Usually not.

Radar is dying in favor of Lidar, esp X band.

A lot of things false trigger radar detectors. Radar can reflect off
overhead signs and over hills where it may trip your detector even
though the radar operator doesn't have a line of sight on you and
couldn't get a reading. Burglar alarm microwave motion detectors and
automatic door openers at supermarkets almost always operate on X band
and will trip radar detectors to a significant distance. Most people
regularly driving a route will learn these areas. These signals always
are present.

There are a very few instances where communities have taken
used/obsolete radar equipment and locked it in transmit to try to slow
down traffic near construction sites, schools or residential areas. An
experienced user of a radar detector will spot these immediately.

Do some Google searching and you'll find a week's worth of reading on
these matters.

Steve


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just becuause the patrol car is facing one way, the radar unit could face
anywhere, they are on a rotating base.

(JAMEZY NJ) wrote in message ...
just becuause the patrol car is facing one way, the radar unit could face
anywhere, they are on a rotating base.

They call this the cosine error in radar work. This is the cosine of
the angle that is from where the officer is coming straight to you and
the angle that he is actually clocking you from.

FYI
Chuck