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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
In article , "Dee Flint" wrote:
"J. D. B." wrote in message ... John, Just get on digital modes. Don't worry about CW. Digital is where the fun is and the copy is much better. A buddy of mine in St. Louis and I experimented with low power and various digital modes last night on 40 meters. CW was marginal. The best was DominoEX with FEC - just about 100% all the time and it also has a second channel to display additional information. CW can be fun at times, but maybe it's not your thing. Let the stone-age hams continue with CW, and move up and on to the digital modes. MultiPSK, while a bit cluttered and ugly, is a great program you can use. MixW is cleaner looking and very good, but not as many capabilities in the program. Move on and start having fun. You just don't get it do you. There are conditions for each mode that will make that mode "the best". Every mode has its place. That goes for voice, all the multiplicity of digital modes and yes CW. Last night you had the best luck with DominoEx. Another night RTTY might be better. Another night, voice might be more intelligible. Yet another night will favor CW. Based on what I've read about DominoEX, it is a form of Multi-Frequency Shift Keying. This variation looks to be more robust than others, however, anything that can compromise FSK and MFSK has the potential to compromise DominoEX. It will merely be a matter of the degree of severity needed before it becomes unusable. Just because something is old doesn't make it useless or stone age. Pencils have been around far longer and are still highly useful. Dee, N8UZE Very well put. Every mode is useful, important and valuable in different situations. What's unfortunate, is that the only modes the anti-CW crowd wants and supports are "Lazy Mode" and "Retard mode" Hymie |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Hymie wrote: In article , "Dee Flint" wrote: Dee, N8UZE Very well put. Every mode is useful, important and valuable in different situations. What's unfortunate, is that the only modes the anti-CW crowd wants and supports are "Lazy Mode" and "Retard mode" wrong again Hymie |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Al Klein wrote: On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:49:00 GMT, (Hymie) wrote: Very well put. Every mode is useful, important and valuable in different situations. What's unfortunate, is that the only modes the anti-CW crowd wants and supports are "Lazy Mode" and "Retard mode" Even those who tout digital modes - they want to buy an interface and software and "be" on digital. Then they wonder why the signal they're hearing, that sounds just like the digital mode they use, doesn't work on their setup. Maybe because a PSK program won't decode SSTV? learn what you are tlaking about psk31 sounds very little like sstv and most of the programs that can demolate it show you a spectrograhand they look nothing alike there is some time confusion in wether that sgnal BPSK 31 or QPSK31 but the marvels of Windows wallo me to run the output of the sound card interface to at least 2 program so it can be worked out you just want to bash any ham that doesnot follow your morse fetish Reminds me of the GPRS "exerts" who can't understand why changing the "code" on their radios doesn't eliminate the interference from the guy next door. The anti-CW crowd wants no code and a written test you can memorize the answers to. It's their "right" to be on the air, isn't it? Even if they need 2 more clues to be totally clueless? it is our right and everybody else right that any restriction to our access to public spectrum be "neccisary and proper" (one of 3 clauses in the constitution that give the power to regulate the airwave to the govet at all) otherwise the 10 reserving all right and power to the sates or the people applies modifing that is the thrid place where the consititution of US touches on this issue mby making the constitution and the TREATIES made the supreme law of the land according the Govt lost the POWER to impose Morse Code test on the ARS unless it can be justified under some other powere of the Constitution I find it interesting that the ProCode tes crowd has such disrespect for that document |
Eliminating CW will just give retards HF, it won't modernize the service.
Proof: "an_old_friend" wrote in ups.com: it is our right and everybody else right that any restriction to our access to public spectrum be "neccisary and proper" (one of 3 clauses in the constitution that give the power to regulate the airwave to the govet at all) otherwise the 10 reserving all right and power to the sates or the people applies modifing that is the thrid place where the consititution of US touches on this issue mby making the constitution and the TREATIES made the supreme law of the land according the Govt lost the POWER to impose Morse Code test on the ARS unless it can be justified under some other powere of the Constitution I find it interesting that the ProCode tes crowd has such disrespect for that document |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:55:28 -0500, jakdedert
wrote: There's a world of difference between technical electronics knowledge and ability to decipher code. Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. FWIW, I don't even have a ham license anymore. Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Al Klein wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:55:28 -0500, jakdedert wrote: There's a world of difference between technical electronics knowledge and ability to decipher code. Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. whta is needed and why? FWIW, I don't even have a ham license anymore. Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. nope he has full standing he is an american that means the FCC is suposed serve not the ARS but the people of the USA. the problem with you procoders is that you think the ARS owns the bandwidth not the poeple of the USA |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Al Klein wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:55:28 -0500, jakdedert wrote: There's a world of difference between technical electronics knowledge and ability to decipher code. Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. FWIW, I don't even have a ham license anymore. Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once, at 15 years old; and I've picked up a fair amount of electronics knowledge as well...proving that one has little to do with the other. jak |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
jakdedert wrote: Al Klein wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:55:28 -0500, jakdedert wrote: There's a world of difference between technical electronics knowledge and ability to decipher code. Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. FWIW, I don't even have a ham license anymore. Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once, at 15 years old; and I've picked up a fair amount of electronics knowledge as well...proving that one has little to do with the other. you still do don't let this bozo tell you otherwise (unless you are an ilgeal alien or something) jak |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Al Klein wrote:
Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize. No knowledge of electronics required. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Eliminating CW will just give retards HF, it won't modernize the service.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:05:08 GMT, Slow Code wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in oups.com: according the Govt lost the POWER to impose Morse Code test on the ARS unless it can be justified under some other powere of the Constitution I find it interesting that the ProCode tes crowd has such disrespect for that document Proof: You actually expected him to be able to differentiate between "has the power to" and "is forced to"? |
Eliminating CW is just the lying of those afraid of change
Al Klein wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:05:08 GMT, Slow Code wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in oups.com: according the Govt lost the POWER to impose Morse Code test on the ARS unless it can be justified under some other powere of the Constitution I find it interesting that the ProCode tes crowd has such disrespect for that document Proof: You actually expected him to be able to differentiate between "has the power to" and "is forced to"? the Govt lacks the power to test anymore if chalanced it it only had the power while it was forced by the treaty |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:40:52 -0500, jakdedert
wrote: Al Klein wrote: Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once But you don't now, and it's now now, it's not once. proving that one has little to do with the other. And that you have little to do with this conversation. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote: Al Klein wrote: Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize. No knowledge of electronics required. For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to memorize. Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. "Knowledge of electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Cecil Moore wrote: Al Klein wrote: Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize. No knowledge of electronics required. For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to memorize. when did the test aquire gender Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. I can even my wife who frankly does not the why ofof it can tel the component "Knowledge of electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad. if you are that depressed about give it up go fishing but please trying to killthe ARS with your bile |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Al Klein wrote:
For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to memorize. Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. "Knowledge of electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad. In 1953, as a sophomore in high school, I didn't know any electronics and was therefore forced to memorize the ARRL License Manual in order to get my Conditional license. People like me have been memorizing License Manuals for more than half a century. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Cecil Moore wrote: Al Klein wrote: For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to memorize. Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. "Knowledge of electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad. In 1953, as a sophomore in high school, I didn't know any electronics and was therefore forced to memorize the ARRL License Manual in order to get my Conditional license. People like me have been memorizing License Manuals for more than half a century. at the risk of seeming foolish but the answer will make a point here I think tyour license did PRECEED your becoming an EE didn't it, by some many years -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote: Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize. No knowledge of electronics required. Rules and regulations are just an exercise in memorization also. They require no knowledge of electronics either. The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language requirement for some college degrees, it rounds out the amateur skills. Dave WD9BDZ |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
David G. Nagel wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: Al Klein wrote: Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize. The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize. No knowledge of electronics required. Rules and regulations are just an exercise in memorization also. They require no knowledge of electronics either. The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language requirement for some college degrees, it rounds out the amateur skills. an improvement over the drivel most of the procoders are posting although the analogy streches a bit if I ask what college in the wolrd has a requirement for one foreign lang and only one did you submit it in your coments to the FCC? all in all not bad Dave WD9BDZ |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
an old freind wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: In 1953, as a sophomore in high school, I didn't know any electronics and was therefore forced to memorize the ARRL License Manual in order to get my Conditional license. People like me have been memorizing License Manuals for more than half a century. at the risk of seeming foolish but the answer will make a point here I think your license did PRECEED your becoming an EE didn't it, by some many years My amateur radio license, obtaining by memorizing the ARRL License Manual in 1952-1953, was the catalyst that caused me to seek and obtain a EE degree later in 1959. The point is that an amateur radio license is a learner's permit to exercise certain privileges during a lifetime of learning. It is a permit, not a graduation certificate. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
David G. Nagel wrote:
The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language requirement for some college degrees, ... I carefully avoided any foreign language requirement for my BS EE. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On 17 Jul 2006 20:12:08 -0700, "an old feind"
wrote: Al Klein wrote: Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. I can even my wife who frankly does not the why ofof it can tel the component I said "by function". Not "locate the resistor", but "locate the balanced modulator circuitry". You used to have to draw a few schematics on blank paper - no hints. Now you have to be able to identify a resistor. Big deal - that should take all of 3 seconds to memorize. Memorizing which side of the heart sends out the oxygenated blood doesn't make you a cardiac surgeon. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Al Klein wrote: On 17 Jul 2006 20:12:08 -0700, "an old feind" wrote: Al Klein wrote: Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. I can even my wife who frankly does not the why ofof it can tel the component I said "by function". Not "locate the resistor", but "locate the balanced modulator circuitry". you were vague not my fault you can't express yourself You used to have to draw a few schematics on blank paper - no hints. so? you used to have as purely pacitcal matter build at at least some of your station Now you have to be able to identify a resistor. Big deal - that should take all of 3 seconds to memorize. Memorizing which side of the heart sends out the oxygenated blood doesn't make you a cardiac surgeon. nor is a EE needed to be ham and contrube to advancing the state of the radio art the tests needed to cover those things THEN THEN they more os less needed to inculde Morse code (lathough it could have been avoided but for the treaty) times change adapt or die |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Cecil Moore wrote:
David G. Nagel wrote: The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language requirement for some college degrees, ... I carefully avoided any foreign language requirement for my BS EE. Computer program was substituted for foreign language where I went to college. Dave |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
David G. Nagel wrote:
Computer program was substituted for foreign language where I went to college. At Texas A&M in the late '50's, a BA in EE required a foreign language but a BS didn't. Don't know why. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On 18 Jul 2006 15:04:01 -0700, "an old freind"
wrote: Al Klein wrote: On 17 Jul 2006 20:12:08 -0700, "an old feind" wrote: Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a schematic and ask them to find a component by function. I can even my wife who frankly does not the why ofof it can tel the component I said "by function". Not "locate the resistor", but "locate the balanced modulator circuitry". you were vague I said, "ask them to find a component by function". That's only vague to those who don't understand simple English. not my fault you can't express yourself Not in what you use for language but, then, I speak English. nor is a EE needed to be ham and contrube to advancing the state of the radio art No one said otherwise - but refusing to learn anything shouldn't be a criterion, and it certainly doesn't contribute to anything but sloth. the tests needed to cover those things THEN THEN they more os less needed to inculde Morse code (lathough it could have been avoided but for the treaty) times change adapt or die Oh, I could pass a test on the technical aspects of communications as it's practiced today. Could you? (Rhetorical question - I know you couldn't.) And I don't mean could you memorize enough answers to pass. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:21:22 -0500, "David G. Nagel"
wrote: Computer program was substituted for foreign language where I went to college. Computer programming wasn't (as in, didn't exist), when I went to college. :) Except maybe at IBM. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:10:39 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote: At Texas A&M in the late '50's, a BA in EE required a foreign language but a BS didn't. Don't know why. Language is an art? |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:10:39 GMT, Cecil Moore wrote: At Texas A&M in the late '50's, a BA in EE required a foreign language but a BS didn't. Don't know why. Language is an art? Back in the olden days a BA degree focused on art, humanities, language, sociology, etc. Back in the olden days a BS degree focused on math, more math, physics, chemistry, biological sciences, etc. The basic difference was M A T H ... M O R E M A T H ... then four or more semesters of C A L C U L U S. In fifty years I've forgotten most of that MATH and Calculus stuff, but I still like to read about the humanities, history, sociology. That must mean something. My degree, like Cecil's, is a BS [That does not stand for Bull S...] |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:19:52 -0400, Dave wrote:
In fifty years I've forgotten most of that MATH and Calculus stuff, but I still like to read about the humanities, history, sociology. That must mean something. My degree, like Cecil's, is a BS [That does not stand for Bull S...] It's only been 43 years for me, but I've also forgotten some of the math and I also like to read about some of the humanities. But I still earn my living doing the BS stuff, although being a field anthropologist does sound interesting. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:19:52 -0400, Dave wrote: In fifty years I've forgotten most of that MATH and Calculus stuff, but I still like to read about the humanities, history, sociology. That must mean something. My degree, like Cecil's, is a BS [That does not stand for Bull S...] It's only been 43 years for me, but I've also forgotten some of the math and I also like to read about some of the humanities. But I still earn my living doing the BS stuff, although being a field anthropologist does sound interesting. I retired from the BS business in 2000. Now I'm an ordained minister, ordained in 1988 as a Catholic Deacon, and serve as Chaplain to the incarcerated in addition to parish responsibilities. Us old hams have diversified interests !! |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
"Al Klein" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:40:52 -0500, jakdedert wrote: Al Klein wrote: Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once But you don't now, and it's now now, it's not once. proving that one has little to do with the other. And that you have little to do with this conversation. You can argue till your blue in the face but CW requirement will be gone sooner or later. I fully understand the points of the pro CW guys but it's just the sign of the times. BH |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Brian Hill wrote: "Al Klein" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:40:52 -0500, jakdedert wrote: Al Klein wrote: Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once But you don't now, and it's now now, it's not once. proving that one has little to do with the other. And that you have little to do with this conversation. You can argue till your blue in the face but CW requirement will be gone sooner or later. I fully understand the points of the pro CW guys but it's just the sign of the times. Indeed I understand the points of the CW crwod but I simply reject the ntotions that merits of CW merit the strangle hold it has after all I can do even EME without knowing a BIT of Morse did so last night BH |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
"Brian Hill" wrote in :
"Al Klein" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:40:52 -0500, jakdedert wrote: Al Klein wrote: Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once But you don't now, and it's now now, it's not once. proving that one has little to do with the other. And that you have little to do with this conversation. You can argue till your blue in the face but CW requirement will be gone sooner or later. I fully understand the points of the pro CW guys but it's just the sign of the times. BH We have to keep trying to save Ham radio while we still can because once it's all the way in the ****ter it will be even harder to pull back out & clean up. A Ham who'll stand for nothing will sit for anything. I won't accept more dumbing down. Help save Ham radio: 1- No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements required for their license class every ten years. 2- The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. 3- Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. 4- Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. 5- Cancel your ARRL membership until they decide to work to improve things and stop them from proposing ham radio that is like CB. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
"Slow Code" wrote in message nk.net... "Brian Hill" wrote in : "Al Klein" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:40:52 -0500, jakdedert wrote: Al Klein wrote: Then, as the courts would say, you have no standing in the matter. Ahh...but I did, once But you don't now, and it's now now, it's not once. proving that one has little to do with the other. And that you have little to do with this conversation. You can argue till your blue in the face but CW requirement will be gone sooner or later. I fully understand the points of the pro CW guys but it's just the sign of the times. BH We have to keep trying to save Ham radio while we still can because once it's all the way in the ****ter it will be even harder to pull back out & clean up. A Ham who'll stand for nothing will sit for anything. I won't accept more dumbing down. Help save Ham radio: 1- No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements required for their license class every ten years. No reason to. This has never existed in the history of amateur radio and there is no reason to think it would improve things. 2- The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. Might be OK. 3- Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. Probably wouldn't make a real difference either way. 4- Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. Probably wouldn't make any difference. 5- Cancel your ARRL membership until they decide to work to improve things and stop them from proposing ham radio that is like CB. Terrible idea. The only way to get ARRL to change is to get involved in the politics of ARRL and work to try to effect the changes that you want. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Dee Flint wrote: "Slow Code" wrote in message nk.net... 3- Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. Probably wouldn't make a real difference either way. 4- Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. Probably wouldn't make any difference. certainly would but then you are into killing the ars of course 5- Cancel your ARRL membership until they decide to work to improve things and stop them from proposing ham radio that is like CB. Terrible idea. The only way to get ARRL to change is to get involved in the politics of ARRL and work to try to effect the changes that you want. ask Carl Stevenson about that one |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... 5- Cancel your ARRL membership until they decide to work to improve things and stop them from proposing ham radio that is like CB. Terrible idea. The only way to get ARRL to change is to get involved in the politics of ARRL and work to try to effect the changes that you want. You're most likely correct on getting into the "politics" of the ARRL to "try" to get anywhere. But, good luck. It is more like a "good ole boys club". Anytime I've ever seen any reps to the area at a hamfest - they acted like snobs more than trying to communicate with hams of their concerns OR to try to win those hams who weren't members - to become members. If the rep couldn't give me the time of day, the ARRL didn't need my money either. I stopped my membership when it was due for renewal. That was a good 15 years ago or better. How did the rep act like a snob? He turned to his bud who was with him behind the table and ignored others "trying" to gain his attention and talk to him about whatever. Oh - he may look and say Hi, but god forbid you interrupt his conversation with his buddy. So much for the "MEET YOUR ARRL REP HERE" lou |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:15:03 -0500, "Brian Hill" wrote:
You can argue till your blue in the face but CW requirement will be gone sooner or later. I fully understand the points of the pro CW guys but it's just the sign of the times. The sign reads, "Instant Gratification". Buy the equipment and be able to put it on the air immediately. It wouldn't surprise me if, in the not too distant future, one will be able to buy a ham transceiver, create call letters out of one's initials or something and legally be on the air while waiting for the real "ask for it and you get it for a fee" license. |
Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
somebody wrote ... Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. .... and new aircraft pilot license requirement: Demonstrate an engine start by spinning the prop -- by hand. Even if you intend to fly only jets, some old "prop-job" might be the only thing that can get through in an emergency. I wonder: Did the radio amateur community go through anything like this for the transition away from spark? |
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