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H. State July 29th 06 06:12 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


dxAce July 29th 06 07:32 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 


"H. State" wrote:

The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Yep, shown at the end of the description:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0350.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA




[email protected] July 29th 06 08:04 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
That was a computer operated radio,operated via computer,wasen't it?
Will they replace it with something else? I think they should replace it
with non computer operated radios.
cuhulin


dxAce July 29th 06 08:23 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 


wrote:

That was a computer operated radio,operated via computer,wasen't it?


The RX-320D is the computer operated radio.


Will they replace it with something else?


No idea. It seems like when originally marketed it they were promising support
and up grades forever. Typical Ten-Tec.

I think they should replace it
with non computer operated radios.
cuhulin



Telamon July 29th 06 09:00 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

"H. State" wrote:

The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Yep, shown at the end of the description:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0350.html


Think they will come out with another commercial radio?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce July 29th 06 09:08 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

"H. State" wrote:

The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Yep, shown at the end of the description:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0350.html


Think they will come out with another commercial radio?


That's a very good question!

One I certainly don't have an answer for.



Joe Analssandrini July 30th 06 12:10 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Hello All.

This is sad. Several years ago, when I was in the market for a good
tabletop communications receiver, I investigated this model. It was
unfortunate that, though it appeared to have a great deal of promise,
Ten-tec never really followed through with support, "software"
(operating) improvements, etc. (I bought, as many of you know, an AOR
AR7030 Plus.)

To answer another message on this post, while the radio could be
controlled by computer (as can my AOR), it is, in fact, a stand-alone
(traditional) tabletop radio.

Even as it was, however, it was, at least according to virtually all
the reviews I read, a good radio and I know there are many owners who
are very happy with their 350s. This is a sad day for all SW listeners.

In my opinion, should one wish to have a modern, well-designed,
shortwave communications receiver, of which there are fewer and fewer
choices, the time to buy is now. Sacrifice what you will - lunches,
movies, cable-TV, clothes and jewelry for your wife (better have
pre-paid funeral arrangements if you go that route!), whatever - and
buy any one of these top-quality receivers (and I do NOT mean some
"used" eBay wonder!). You won't regret it.

Best,

Joe

H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.



Telamon July 30th 06 12:14 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
In article .com,
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote:

H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


This is sad. Several years ago, when I was in the market for a good
tabletop communications receiver, I investigated this model. It was
unfortunate that, though it appeared to have a great deal of promise,
Ten-tec never really followed through with support, "software"
(operating) improvements, etc. (I bought, as many of you know, an AOR
AR7030 Plus.)

To answer another message on this post, while the radio could be
controlled by computer (as can my AOR), it is, in fact, a stand-alone
(traditional) tabletop radio.

Even as it was, however, it was, at least according to virtually all
the reviews I read, a good radio and I know there are many owners who
are very happy with their 350s. This is a sad day for all SW listeners.

In my opinion, should one wish to have a modern, well-designed,
shortwave communications receiver, of which there are fewer and fewer
choices, the time to buy is now. Sacrifice what you will - lunches,
movies, cable-TV, clothes and jewelry for your wife (better have
pre-paid funeral arrangements if you go that route!), whatever - and
buy any one of these top-quality receivers (and I do NOT mean some
"used" eBay wonder!). You won't regret it.


Yeah that's to bad. This was a consumer priced DSP radio. I know they
were late with the software upgrades but I think people that bought the
radio were finally happy with it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Wun Hung Lo July 30th 06 12:38 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Joe Analssandrini wrote:



In my opinion, should one wish to have a modern, well-designed,
shortwave communications receiver, of which there are fewer and fewer
choices,


Joe, you're right--there are fewer and fewer choices--and on that basis,
now might be the time to buy.

On the other hand, we have to ask the obvious question: WHY are there
fewer and fewer choices?

At least two obvious answers come to mind:

1)The manufacturers see fewer buyers for their products.

2) Maybe the -manufacturers- view short wave as, if not dying, at least
tapering off, with less to listen to and therefore fewer potential buyers.

If the market was there, one would think the manufacturers would be
there to satisfy the demand.

Is the hand writing on the wall?

Steve July 30th 06 01:10 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote:

H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


This is sad. Several years ago, when I was in the market for a good
tabletop communications receiver, I investigated this model. It was
unfortunate that, though it appeared to have a great deal of promise,
Ten-tec never really followed through with support, "software"
(operating) improvements, etc. (I bought, as many of you know, an AOR
AR7030 Plus.)

To answer another message on this post, while the radio could be
controlled by computer (as can my AOR), it is, in fact, a stand-alone
(traditional) tabletop radio.

Even as it was, however, it was, at least according to virtually all
the reviews I read, a good radio and I know there are many owners who
are very happy with their 350s. This is a sad day for all SW listeners.

In my opinion, should one wish to have a modern, well-designed,
shortwave communications receiver, of which there are fewer and fewer
choices, the time to buy is now. Sacrifice what you will - lunches,
movies, cable-TV, clothes and jewelry for your wife (better have
pre-paid funeral arrangements if you go that route!), whatever - and
buy any one of these top-quality receivers (and I do NOT mean some
"used" eBay wonder!). You won't regret it.


Yeah that's to bad. This was a consumer priced DSP radio. I know they
were late with the software upgrades but I think people that bought the
radio were finally happy with it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Well, there are new DSP receivers on the way....

http://kd-elektronik.com/index_e.html


Brian Denley July 30th 06 02:54 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
No it's not a computer operated receiver. It's a dsp receiver.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

wrote in message
...
That was a computer operated radio,operated via computer,wasen't it?
Will they replace it with something else? I think they should replace it
with non computer operated radios.
cuhulin




Brian Denley July 30th 06 02:58 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
From what I hear, the problem is that Ten-Tec never sold enough of them
(RX-350) to make any money. It may be that Drake, Ten-Tec, Kenwood, NRD and
others no longer see a viable market in high end receivers.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

"H. State" wrote:

The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.

Yep, shown at the end of the description:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0350.html


Think they will come out with another commercial radio?


That's a very good question!

One I certainly don't have an answer for.





Brian Denley July 30th 06 02:59 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Isn't that a tranceiver?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote:


Well, there are new DSP receivers on the way....

http://kd-elektronik.com/index_e.html




Steve July 30th 06 03:12 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

Brian Denley wrote:
Isn't that a tranceiver?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote:


Well, there are new DSP receivers on the way....

http://kd-elektronik.com/index_e.html


Sorry...I didn't mean the software defined radio. Click the "DSP
receiver" button on the left hand side of the screen and you'll find
information about the forthcoming successor to the KWZ-30.


Steve July 30th 06 02:49 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

Brian Denley wrote:
From what I hear, the problem is that Ten-Tec never sold enough of them
(RX-350) to make any money. It may be that Drake, Ten-Tec, Kenwood, NRD and
others no longer see a viable market in high end receivers.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html


That may be the case. I never had the sense that the RX-350 was a big
seller. Ten-Tec certainly seems to be selling plenty of the RX-320D,
and I've been tempted to buy one of those little gems myself. And of
course Ten-Tec still sells the RX-340. It's their mid-range receiver
that they're dropping--and of course we're just *assuming* that they're
dropping it, rather than retiring it to make room for a successor.

Steve


[email protected] July 30th 06 03:32 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
I have never owned a Ten-Tec before.From what some people say,I gather
Ten-Tec makes some good radios,but their business/software department
needs some improving.At least they are made in the good old U.S.A.I need
to look around for a good deal on a non computer operated Ten-Tec Radio.
cuhulin


Arthur Pozner July 30th 06 05:44 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Ten -Tec is concentrating on higher priced
products. RX 400 (coming soon), RX- 340,Orion II (high performance
xceiver) are not marketed for an average SWL.Very sad indeed...


David Eduardo July 30th 06 07:53 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

"Arthur Pozner" wrote in message
...
Ten -Tec is concentrating on higher priced
products. RX 400 (coming soon), RX- 340,Orion II (high performance
xceiver) are not marketed for an average SWL.Very sad indeed...


What price range will the RX 400 be at?



Joe Analssandrini July 30th 06 07:54 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Dear Sir,

I tghink the problem is complicated and not easily addressed. The BBC
and some other international broadcasters evidently feel that shortwave
is "done" and they are moving onto "other" means of delivery. Yet the
"religious" broadcasters appear to be increasing their shortwave
presence and they depend upon listeners to send them financial support.
Would they increase their shortwave presence if they were not seeing
results?

In my opinion, the shortwave equipment quandary is the same as the
high-fidelity equipment one - the mass audience seems to be happy with
"lo-fi" sound from their CDs and iPods and they "ooh and ah" when they
hear good sound but then they do nothing about their own sad situation.
To be frank, most of today's music is trash anyway, in my opinion, and
the "multi-channel" "synthesized" sound (which could never be actually
performed live) is not high fidelity in the first place, so it just
doesn't matter how it's recorded or played back. The audience for
better music (classical, jazz, Broadway shows, etc.) is small and the
recording companies have little interest in other than a mass audience.
And it appears that good sound reproducing apparatus is low on the mass
audiences' list of priorities. (It is out there, of course, and
well-worth seeking out.)

The same applies to the big international broadcasters (as well as the
radio manufacturers) - they have NO IDEA (they have NEVER had any idea)
of the size of their shortwave audience so they assume that since
"everybody" has a computer, "nobody" listens to shortwave any more and
"everybody" listens on their computers (or on their local "educational"
FM outlets)!

Well, I for one, do NOT listen on my computer (and I can't stand NPR
for the most part - I can''t stand the idiotic "conservative"
talk-shows either) and those stations which have abandoned the
shortwaves are just not heard by me (one example is Switzerland).

I can presume that the manufacturing end "thoughts" are the same as the
high-end hi-fi one - "everybody" buys "only" portables so why bother to
manufacture a high quality tabletop unit, notwithstanding that, once
properly designed, the units can be marketed for many years without
change, thus amortizing the initial design costs. (The AOR AR7030, for
example, has been manufactured for over ten years now and, though the
factory does improve the design as problems and./or solutions become
apparent - they are VERY responsive that way - their design costs have
been minimal in recent years.) Part of the reason that radios may be
discontinued is that a needed part may itself have been discontinued
and therefore the set, as designed, can no longer be made. And the
manufacturers, knowing that the market for expensive radios is small
(and has ALWAYS been small), think that, rather than design a new
highe-end radio, they can make more money making HDTVs, DVD blanks, or
Condensed Soup.

Even though it's far from perfect, look at the ICOM IC-R75. It sells
for about $600.00 and, even with a few modifications bringing its
ultimate cost up to around $1000.00, it still sells and performs well.
It would be nice if ICOM itself would make a few (much-needed)
modifications, but, even without them, we have Kiwa to help improve
this receiver to somewhere in the vicinity of where it ought to be. If
ICOM can design and manufacture a radio to such high standards at such
a relatively low price, why can't others? I do believe that such radios
would indeed sell and would sell over many years.

The Chinese manufacturers evidently agree with me as they keep
introducing new models and their offerings are becoming more and more
sophisticated and, I hope, their quality of constructon is improving
also. Even India is getting into the game with the Eton E1. There have
been shortwave radios manufactured in India for many years but this is
the first model of which I am aware that has been marketed in the
United States.

Maybe the true fact is that some companies "get it" and others "do
not." AOR is hanging in there, so is ICOM, and, most definitely, so is
Eton. And CRI has been increasing its English-language schedule even
while others are decreasing theirs.

And who knows - maybe, as someone else has said here, Ten-tec is
planning to bring out a new, improved "mid-priced" tabletop shortwave
receiver.

We can hope.

Best,

Joe

Wun Hung Lo wrote:
Joe Analssandrini wrote:



In my opinion, should one wish to have a modern, well-designed,
shortwave communications receiver, of which there are fewer and fewer
choices,


Joe, you're right--there are fewer and fewer choices--and on that basis,
now might be the time to buy.

On the other hand, we have to ask the obvious question: WHY are there
fewer and fewer choices?

At least two obvious answers come to mind:

1)The manufacturers see fewer buyers for their products.

2) Maybe the -manufacturers- view short wave as, if not dying, at least
tapering off, with less to listen to and therefore fewer potential buyers.

If the market was there, one would think the manufacturers would be
there to satisfy the demand.

Is the hand writing on the wall?



Steve July 30th 06 07:58 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"Arthur Pozner" wrote in message
...
Ten -Tec is concentrating on higher priced
products. RX 400 (coming soon), RX- 340,Orion II (high performance
xceiver) are not marketed for an average SWL.Very sad indeed...


What price range will the RX 400 be at?


It doesn't matter because you're BUSTED.


dxAce July 30th 06 08:15 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 


Arthur Pozner wrote:

Ten -Tec is concentrating on higher priced
products. RX 400 (coming soon), RX- 340,Orion II (high performance
xceiver) are not marketed for an average SWL.Very sad indeed...


Ten-Tec RX-400:

http://radio.tentec.com/Commercial/RX400

Price... under $6000.00

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] July 30th 06 08:26 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
You got that right Joe.Most of todays music (so-called ''music'') really
is trash.I like the old,old slow music and songs from the 1950's and
wayyyyyy on back, many many decades wayyyy on back.Most people nowdays
wouldn't know good music and songs if it slapped them upside their ears.
cuhulin


[email protected] July 30th 06 09:48 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Hope nobody feels too sad about this. The Eton E1XM ($500) was rated
slightly better overall than the RX-350, in Passport to Worldband
Radio. George (MN)


Steve July 30th 06 10:39 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

wrote:
H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Hope nobody feels too sad about this. The Eton E1XM ($500) was rated
slightly better overall than the RX-350, in Passport to Worldband
Radio. George (MN)


That's one of the reasons why I don't take Passport as seriously as I
once did.


Telamon July 30th 06 11:24 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Arthur Pozner wrote:

Ten -Tec is concentrating on higher priced products. RX 400
(coming soon), RX- 340,Orion II (high performance xceiver) are not
marketed for an average SWL.Very sad indeed...


Ten-Tec RX-400:

http://radio.tentec.com/Commercial/RX400

Price... under $6000.00


Looks like computer control only. I hope that TCP/IP is an ethernet port
for at least 10 Mbit data rate instead of a slow serial port. You can
add an ethernet port to any product for $50 to $150.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

John S. July 31st 06 12:57 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 

H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Is Ten Tec out of the receiver market entirely now?


Brian Denley July 31st 06 02:07 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
No. They still make the $300 RX-320 (it sells well) and they make the high
end RX-340 ($4K) and the RX-400 is due out soon ($6K).

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html


"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

H. State wrote:
The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.


Is Ten Tec out of the receiver market entirely now?




Father Mike July 31st 06 02:23 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 


http://radio.tentec.com/Commercial/RX400

Price... under $6000.00

================================================== =====================

looks interesting, but, i don't believe i'll be listing my 340
on ebay too soon. i think at 6K, i would rather go for the WJ1K.
i like to turn knobs.

Father Michael...

Father Mike July 31st 06 02:24 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Here here, well put Joe...

Father Michael...

Byung Myung Sying July 31st 06 05:04 AM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
In the past, I have owned a couple of Drake 7-Line receivers
(including the 4245 along with a Sherwood SE3)), but I have never
enjoyed a receiver as much as my RX-350. While it's sync detector for
shortwave broadcast is pretty badly implemented, it's incredibly
stable and quiet. Instead of using it's sync detector, I simply
employ ECSS (turn on USB or LSB mode) techniques. The results, using
ECSS and the infinitely variable bandwidth controls on both AM and SSB
are pretty amazing. Excellent fidelity, stability, and unsurpassed
ability to cut out adjacent channel interference. I have enjoyed more
broadcast DX from this receiver due to its stability and quietness
than from any other including the 4245 with a full boat of filters.

Despite what Passport says, I would highly recommend this receiver for
its stability, fidelity, DRM ability (if you're into that -- it is
directly interfacable), and ability to reject interference (I live
about a block away from several commercial FM stations and have never
been disturbed when using the RX-350).

Bad things about the RX-350 (mostly due to TenTec's rotten service and
support):

1) TenTec's support has sucked big time. The sync detection could
have been easily fixed in software, but they just didn't seem to care
enough to have had any updates for the past 4 years or so.

2) LCD display fades into black splotches when heated up. TenTec's
rotten "American" service department wanted to charge me for fixing
this under warranty. It was difficult to find anyone at TenTec who
even understood the problem that I was having.

In conclusion, I love the receiver, but TenTec will never get any of
my future business due to their rotten support.

Fred
N8UC -- Oak Park, MI



Ed August 5th 06 06:44 PM

Ten Tec RX-350D discontinued
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

"H. State" wrote:

The Ten Tec RX-350D receiver has been discontinued.

Yep, shown at the end of the description:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0350.html


Think they will come out with another commercial radio?

Not so long as the Rx320D keeps selling. As a satisfied listener (and
user of great customer service), the 320 does what it does very well.
It does lack Sync AM, but zero beating on SSB works well.


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